I use pretty old machines and never noticed. I'm sure I'm not alone. My machines were maybe top of the line around the turn of the millennium and documents are saved and opened really quick, compared to things I used to do in Windows/Office. -N
I will lure lots of people from Office, potentially. It's at least a step in the wrong direction toward bigger things.
Realistically, no big enterprise rollouts of Office are going to drop it in favor of OO.org just because of this, but those small mom'n'pop and small businesses out there that you conveniently ignore don't need Office. They mostly don't need even the bulk of OO.org's features really. They run Office because of lock-in and hopefully won't have to forever.
Those large businesses by the way probably love ISO standards. What if ISO standards dictate that any ISO 9001 certified company must maintain all its data in open formats - it's a stretch just now, but I see a lot of huge companies who love to put banners on their buildings bragging of being ISO 9001 certified.
This may have an influence enough that MS adds the ISO standard formats to Office, then OO.org really has no barriers to the majority of the Office market that doesn't need anything from Office but the file filters. -N
I seem to recall hearing (albiet probably over a year ago) that the bulk of traffic to Slashdot was from Internet Explorer. Those aren't Linux users and apparently, even the majority of just Windows users don't even use an alternate browser.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was still the case... disappointed yes, but not surprised. -N
This next election I hope will change a few of the standard "My state always votes for..." for a lot of states... it's the first election in awhile where many people really have strong feelings about some of the issues at stake. Country at war, employment low, debt rising, etc.... those are things people have noticed.
Anyway, your vote for Kerry may not be wasted. I think those that typically vote with democrats are likely to do so again. And many of those who normally vote republican won't change, but I won't be surprised if many of them do change. You're in one of the most influential positions between the republicans and democrats for this next election I think... -N
Are you suggesting I'm a 16-year old troll because I like that the story explains the summary terminology better than most?
So long as tech news is only presented to the people who make it, the bulk of people out there will remain ignorant to the more important issues at play in the tech world. And if you don't think the knowledge presented in the tech world is at least marginally important to many people, then I think those 16-year old troll sites are probably just for you. -N
The more story submitters start adding simple explanations like that to article submissions, the closer this site gets to being something I can guide people to, normal people that is.
Personally, I'm glad Fletcher wrote it that way. -N
The job of a marketing department is to control the marketing. They can't be the reason for technology lagging. Technology will lag when those responsible for it stop improving it. Marketing will still try to hype the technology even if it is faltering and that's their job. -N
So many replies to your post make the assumption that you mean science and religious beliefs are mutually exclusive.
Everyone who interpreted it that way, pay attention. Read it again. The parent isn't saying a religious person cannot make scientific decisions. In fact, I'd say it's important for a person's morals and ethics to be taken into account when making decisions of this nature and those are often derived from religion.
His complaint though is that the bible might be too strong a source for some of these decisions... or not necessarily the bible, but the current views of the Church in general are given too much weight.
A perfect example of this was given in the article where it mentioned the White House's push to get articles pertaining to safe sex removed from the CDC website in favor of articles about abstinence. That's obviously the Church's perspective that is specifically interfering with the CDC's purpose of preventing disease by providing information about it. Some would say the stem cell restrictions Bush has made also come from the anti-cloning perspective of the Church. I'm personally against outright cloning as well, but I think it's the Church's lack of understanding in the field that has made stem cell research the equivalent of cloning in the eyes of Bush.
Regardless, the parent is right. Decisions should come from science, not the bible. The decision makers can take into account the desires of those who are religious as well as those who aren't, but in matters of science, the scientific evidence is the most important factor. For the questions, science can't answer yet, certainly a president can go with his gut, his beliefs, etc. -N
Well, you can install it, and should they stop development on it, you can put the APT sources for Debian in your sources.list and magically, you'll be running Debian.
The improvements most of these distros make on Debian it seems is that they make it easier to install and configure. But once that's done, one Debian system is just like any other for the most part. It just runs, or at least it should. -N
I think I've noticed the same. I generally feel much better about work when I'm doing many things and making lots of progress that I can see. But when that dwindles, I find my ability to concntrate much harder as well.
It's a problem for me when I approach the end of a project that has required a lot of coordination. When the loose strings start tying together, I find I'm much more likely to glaze over details, lose concentration, and move onto something more gripping, while leaving some things unfinished.
Kinda like documentation in a software project when you haven't been doing it all along. Who wants to celebrate the completion of a releasable project by getting into the documentation? At least that's the problem I run into if I'm not careful to make sure it's one of the first strings I finish.;-) -N
That's a nice story and all, but that hardly discusses the topic. You suggested several posts back that a CS degree should be requisite for system administration, but that isn't what CS is.
If your qualm is that CS graduates can't program, then that's fine - I think a lot of people with CS degrees got them for the heck of it, just because it was the next big thing... and many great programmers have little use for the college education methods... But still, CS is programming and I have little doubt that a good CS program can help further the skills of an already competent programmer who really wants to be a programmer.
Just because you think CS churns out bad programmers though doesn't mean it has anything to do with system administration. -N
Operating Systems and Networking classes are the closest to system administration in a Computer Science cuurriculum, yes.
But, learning to program filesystem caching algorithms, network communication protocols, and other such things still isn't pertinant to system administration. It may help understand some of the underlying principles, but it's hardly required and certainly not a justification of system administration being a computer science field.
Computer science is about programming and software design. -N
This should be a degree requirement for everyone in CS. It would do a lot to weed out the often-useless trash passing themselves off as CS majors these days.
And are you included in this demographic? CS degrees have nothing to do with system or network administration. -N
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When I've used Apache2, it's configuration setup seems a lot more organized and structured. It's still text files, but they make more sense and they are modularized better.
Granted, that's just the in the distribution, not the server version... but at least it shows it's getting better at that. Now if only more people used Apache2, things would just fix themselves;-) -N
My first optical mouse was an MS Intellimouse Explorer (the original, freaking huge one). I use that on my laptop, but got a wireless Logitech MX700 for my desktop.
Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed in the Logitech because of exactly what you're talking about. My Intellimouse Explorer has no problem tracking on any surface or any fine control. The Logitech is a pain to use with graphics apps.
I've always been a fan of MS's mic, but decided to try out Logitech because MS hadn't released a wireless optical yet. I wish I hadn't in retrospect. And this comes from a very anti-MS attitude regarding software. -N
That's how the Treo started... and my VisorPhone Prism is the example. Handspring started this all with the Springboard expansion which always was intended (hence the built in microphone) to be used as a phone. I still use my VisorPhone, but I'd like to get a Treo one of these days... or just wait for the Motorola A780, which looks like it'll be very cool too. -N
Yes, that's true. But you have to pay for your PC too, does that mean that Linux isn't really free?
Flamebait.
I don't know about distributing it - you just list Office among the requirements for the application. It's been a long time since I've seen a Windows PC without Word and Excel at least. Not everyone uses Windows and further, not everyone is willing to pirate Word and/or Excel. If you took out all the pirated versions, I'm sure your statistic would have a few holes. And more importantly, your statistic clearly doesn't stand for the bajillion home users who didn't buy MSOffice because MSWorks or whatever the freebie available was good enough.
'Cos it means different things to different people. Want some MS source code? Just look in Visual Studio, the code for MFC is right there! Go ahead and read it and modify it and whatever you want. But that wouldn't meet many people's definitions of "open source". Maybe I'm just nitpicky, but "open source" is pretty well understood. It means the source is open. It's "free software" that has meanings that relate both to cost and to freedom.
You've got a low UID, but I'd swear you haven't been here long if your reasoning this poorly.
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I never really heard about identity theft on ICQ - never really looked into it.... but that explains why I lost my really low UID there... The username and password were just different all of a sudden one day.
I did signup for a new one but never told anyone I knew about it, so essentially I didn't use ICQ anymore. -N
Yeah, I've been holding my breath for way too long now... A Treo 600 would be awesome and there's little else I'd need if I had that. I know I've heard Bluetooth will be on the next one, but that's been rumored for awhile now.
And regardless, the Treo 600 is like $700. And has stayed at that price for a ridiculous amount of time now. And I'm sure whatever else they make next will do the same thing and the 600s will be almost impossible to find except on eBay, but I need a warranty.
Handspring had a loyal customer in me and I've bought and recommended tons of Visors, but I really can't justify their products anymore... And I've never really gotten over being abandoned on the VisorPhone when they made all the cool stuff in the original Treos and even the Sprint PCS version of the VisorPhone and ignored us early adopters. -N
Take a look around the phone market... For those who want a good smartphone, the pickings are slimmer than those who want a good normal phone. Don't complain that all the manufacturers are making smartphones with tons of features you don't want just for the sake of complaining.
With my Visorphone Prism starting to see it's final days, I'm looking for a replacement... and I look forward to this as the first viable option. You want a good normal phone, go to the mobile phone store where they have lots. I've seen them and they didn't interest me. -N
The article said it only Sync'd with Microsoft email, but the Motorola does POP3 and IMAP4 email communication too. The fact that it syncs with MS proprietary stuff is in addition to supporting the standards. -N
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I use pretty old machines and never noticed. I'm sure I'm not alone. My machines were maybe top of the line around the turn of the millennium and documents are saved and opened really quick, compared to things I used to do in Windows/Office.
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Your argument supports itself, but little else.
I will lure lots of people from Office, potentially. It's at least a step in the wrong direction toward bigger things.
Realistically, no big enterprise rollouts of Office are going to drop it in favor of OO.org just because of this, but those small mom'n'pop and small businesses out there that you conveniently ignore don't need Office. They mostly don't need even the bulk of OO.org's features really. They run Office because of lock-in and hopefully won't have to forever.
Those large businesses by the way probably love ISO standards. What if ISO standards dictate that any ISO 9001 certified company must maintain all its data in open formats - it's a stretch just now, but I see a lot of huge companies who love to put banners on their buildings bragging of being ISO 9001 certified.
This may have an influence enough that MS adds the ISO standard formats to Office, then OO.org really has no barriers to the majority of the Office market that doesn't need anything from Office but the file filters.
-N
I seem to recall hearing (albiet probably over a year ago) that the bulk of traffic to Slashdot was from Internet Explorer. Those aren't Linux users and apparently, even the majority of just Windows users don't even use an alternate browser.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was still the case... disappointed yes, but not surprised.
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This next election I hope will change a few of the standard "My state always votes for ..." for a lot of states... it's the first election in awhile where many people really have strong feelings about some of the issues at stake. Country at war, employment low, debt rising, etc.... those are things people have noticed.
Anyway, your vote for Kerry may not be wasted. I think those that typically vote with democrats are likely to do so again. And many of those who normally vote republican won't change, but I won't be surprised if many of them do change. You're in one of the most influential positions between the republicans and democrats for this next election I think...
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Are you suggesting I'm a 16-year old troll because I like that the story explains the summary terminology better than most?
So long as tech news is only presented to the people who make it, the bulk of people out there will remain ignorant to the more important issues at play in the tech world. And if you don't think the knowledge presented in the tech world is at least marginally important to many people, then I think those 16-year old troll sites are probably just for you.
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The more story submitters start adding simple explanations like that to article submissions, the closer this site gets to being something I can guide people to, normal people that is.
Personally, I'm glad Fletcher wrote it that way.
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The job of a marketing department is to control the marketing. They can't be the reason for technology lagging. Technology will lag when those responsible for it stop improving it. Marketing will still try to hype the technology even if it is faltering and that's their job.
-N
So many replies to your post make the assumption that you mean science and religious beliefs are mutually exclusive.
Everyone who interpreted it that way, pay attention. Read it again. The parent isn't saying a religious person cannot make scientific decisions. In fact, I'd say it's important for a person's morals and ethics to be taken into account when making decisions of this nature and those are often derived from religion.
His complaint though is that the bible might be too strong a source for some of these decisions... or not necessarily the bible, but the current views of the Church in general are given too much weight.
A perfect example of this was given in the article where it mentioned the White House's push to get articles pertaining to safe sex removed from the CDC website in favor of articles about abstinence. That's obviously the Church's perspective that is specifically interfering with the CDC's purpose of preventing disease by providing information about it. Some would say the stem cell restrictions Bush has made also come from the anti-cloning perspective of the Church. I'm personally against outright cloning as well, but I think it's the Church's lack of understanding in the field that has made stem cell research the equivalent of cloning in the eyes of Bush.
Regardless, the parent is right. Decisions should come from science, not the bible. The decision makers can take into account the desires of those who are religious as well as those who aren't, but in matters of science, the scientific evidence is the most important factor. For the questions, science can't answer yet, certainly a president can go with his gut, his beliefs, etc.
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Well, you can install it, and should they stop development on it, you can put the APT sources for Debian in your sources.list and magically, you'll be running Debian.
The improvements most of these distros make on Debian it seems is that they make it easier to install and configure. But once that's done, one Debian system is just like any other for the most part. It just runs, or at least it should.
-N
I think I've noticed the same. I generally feel much better about work when I'm doing many things and making lots of progress that I can see. But when that dwindles, I find my ability to concntrate much harder as well.
;-)
It's a problem for me when I approach the end of a project that has required a lot of coordination. When the loose strings start tying together, I find I'm much more likely to glaze over details, lose concentration, and move onto something more gripping, while leaving some things unfinished.
Kinda like documentation in a software project when you haven't been doing it all along. Who wants to celebrate the completion of a releasable project by getting into the documentation? At least that's the problem I run into if I'm not careful to make sure it's one of the first strings I finish.
-N
That's a nice story and all, but that hardly discusses the topic. You suggested several posts back that a CS degree should be requisite for system administration, but that isn't what CS is.
If your qualm is that CS graduates can't program, then that's fine - I think a lot of people with CS degrees got them for the heck of it, just because it was the next big thing... and many great programmers have little use for the college education methods... But still, CS is programming and I have little doubt that a good CS program can help further the skills of an already competent programmer who really wants to be a programmer.
Just because you think CS churns out bad programmers though doesn't mean it has anything to do with system administration.
-N
Operating Systems and Networking classes are the closest to system administration in a Computer Science cuurriculum, yes.
But, learning to program filesystem caching algorithms, network communication protocols, and other such things still isn't pertinant to system administration. It may help understand some of the underlying principles, but it's hardly required and certainly not a justification of system administration being a computer science field.
Computer science is about programming and software design.
-N
This should be a degree requirement for everyone in CS. It would do a lot to weed out the often-useless trash passing themselves off as CS majors these days.
And are you included in this demographic? CS degrees have nothing to do with system or network administration.
-N
When I've used Apache2, it's configuration setup seems a lot more organized and structured. It's still text files, but they make more sense and they are modularized better.
;-)
Granted, that's just the in the distribution, not the server version... but at least it shows it's getting better at that. Now if only more people used Apache2, things would just fix themselves
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Then I hadn't seen it yet. Grow up dude - not everyone's as perfect as you.
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My first optical mouse was an MS Intellimouse Explorer (the original, freaking huge one). I use that on my laptop, but got a wireless Logitech MX700 for my desktop.
Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed in the Logitech because of exactly what you're talking about. My Intellimouse Explorer has no problem tracking on any surface or any fine control. The Logitech is a pain to use with graphics apps.
I've always been a fan of MS's mic, but decided to try out Logitech because MS hadn't released a wireless optical yet. I wish I hadn't in retrospect. And this comes from a very anti-MS attitude regarding software.
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That's how the Treo started... and my VisorPhone Prism is the example. Handspring started this all with the Springboard expansion which always was intended (hence the built in microphone) to be used as a phone. I still use my VisorPhone, but I'd like to get a Treo one of these days... or just wait for the Motorola A780, which looks like it'll be very cool too.
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It's like a Beowulf cluster of several million geeks' imaginations!
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I'm sorry...
LOLOL - I think that's the funniest thing I've read on Slashdot in years, and that includes all the SCO crap.
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Flamebait.
I don't know about distributing it - you just list Office among the requirements for the application. It's been a long time since I've seen a Windows PC without Word and Excel at least.
Not everyone uses Windows and further, not everyone is willing to pirate Word and/or Excel. If you took out all the pirated versions, I'm sure your statistic would have a few holes. And more importantly, your statistic clearly doesn't stand for the bajillion home users who didn't buy MSOffice because MSWorks or whatever the freebie available was good enough.
'Cos it means different things to different people. Want some MS source code? Just look in Visual Studio, the code for MFC is right there! Go ahead and read it and modify it and whatever you want. But that wouldn't meet many people's definitions of "open source".
Maybe I'm just nitpicky, but "open source" is pretty well understood. It means the source is open. It's "free software" that has meanings that relate both to cost and to freedom.
You've got a low UID, but I'd swear you haven't been here long if your reasoning this poorly.
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I never really heard about identity theft on ICQ - never really looked into it.... but that explains why I lost my really low UID there... The username and password were just different all of a sudden one day.
I did signup for a new one but never told anyone I knew about it, so essentially I didn't use ICQ anymore.
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1 doesn't change much between different base notations.
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Yeah, I've been holding my breath for way too long now... A Treo 600 would be awesome and there's little else I'd need if I had that. I know I've heard Bluetooth will be on the next one, but that's been rumored for awhile now.
And regardless, the Treo 600 is like $700. And has stayed at that price for a ridiculous amount of time now. And I'm sure whatever else they make next will do the same thing and the 600s will be almost impossible to find except on eBay, but I need a warranty.
Handspring had a loyal customer in me and I've bought and recommended tons of Visors, but I really can't justify their products anymore... And I've never really gotten over being abandoned on the VisorPhone when they made all the cool stuff in the original Treos and even the Sprint PCS version of the VisorPhone and ignored us early adopters.
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Take a look around the phone market... For those who want a good smartphone, the pickings are slimmer than those who want a good normal phone. Don't complain that all the manufacturers are making smartphones with tons of features you don't want just for the sake of complaining.
With my Visorphone Prism starting to see it's final days, I'm looking for a replacement... and I look forward to this as the first viable option. You want a good normal phone, go to the mobile phone store where they have lots. I've seen them and they didn't interest me.
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The article said it only Sync'd with Microsoft email, but the Motorola does POP3 and IMAP4 email communication too. The fact that it syncs with MS proprietary stuff is in addition to supporting the standards.
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