Quite true on the power of these things. I started computing with a Trash-80. I'm not saying that linux/X is *bad* for these machines, just that the ui isn't apropriate. I can't imagine doing any real work on one of these. Good folding keyboards may make it happen though.
Watching streaming video on one of these would definately be cool admittedly, although at that point, why not just a pocket TV?:P
Now Quake on one of these during those horrid employee meetings...
Well I've been thinking of things like this.
Certainly this is interesting for Hack Value, but would anyone seriously want Linux and X running on a machine like this?
I think that given the size of the screen and the input options for these palmtops, not to mention the cpu/mem constraints dont seem to fit the whole Unix/X way of doing things. I mean are you really going to write a shell script on one of these machines? Do some heavy hacking? I would prefer to develop on an emulator running on a workstation and test on these devices.
I think PalmOS has done a fine job for the UI on their palm machines, and I can't imagine trying to interact with one of these things with programs running in smaller-than-the-screen windows.
Then again maybe I'm just getting grumpy in my old age.:P
Netscape 6 is a full-featured yet lean browser that bucks the trend in software bloat. Netscape 6 was developed from the ground up to be as small as possible while still providing a rich feature set.
It's always amazing how differently geeks and marketing people see things.:)
The mozilla nightly builds have become remarkably usable in recent weeks. I've been impressed. I'm interested to see how this public beta turns out. My non-geek friends didnt seem to like Netscape's last beta. Then again, I don't think anyone did.
The 'fairness' I'm talking about is that which would eliminate loopholes in the law.
True fairness in taxes would be for citizens to pay for services they receive. For example: I drive to work, so I would pay for road maintenence service. Everyone pays for the service that the armed forces provide in terms of national protection... etc etc.
Of course this invokes a knee jerk reaction from most people claiming that it's not fair. The reason for that is simple.
The 'fairness' that most people talk about is that the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor do.
How is that fair?
In terms of services provided, I would argue that the poor get far more value from government ( in terms of value received vs. taxes paid ) than the rich or middle class do.
Why should people who succeed be penalized? Why should I be forced into making charitable donations to various government programs? By making those with more money pay more than those with less money, we are rewarding those who do not work as hard, and punishing those who do.
*That* is backwards.
By using a tax system where people pay for the services that they truly receive, and where people have the *option* of giving charitable donations to government ( or private! ) programs, we eliminate the immoral extortion of money from those that have succeeded financially.
Of course this is considered to be *really* radical, so as a compromise I usually promote the flat sales tax system. There those still pay more for the same service, but it's less blatant, and less open to corruption than the progressive tax we have now.
It boils down to the fact that I don't blindly accept the assumption that people with more money should pay more than people with less money for the same service.
To the extent possible, we treat governments as we would buisnesses. When taxes are raised, ask 'Where is the increase in value that I will receive?' or 'Wouldn't this be better handled privately?'
This way the 'rich' pay more in taxes because they buy more goods. The poor pay less in taxes because they buy less goods. Fair. No holes, tricks or slight of hand.
It will never happen however and this is why :
By having the tax code so god awfully complicated, two things are achieved.
1) americans pay more taxes than they legally should have to.
2) special interest groups and pet projects of our representitives can get tax breaks hidden within the complex code.
#1 makes the members of govt happy since they have more money to play with.
#2 makes the members of govt happy since it gives them LOTS of power.
A small, equal national sales tax would eliminate both of those reasons, which is why it will never happen.
Politics has historically attracted the worst of the worst of the human race. ( with notable exceptions of course )
> No, I'd say an hour is fairly acceptable for an alpha version. That would already be an improvement over Netscape 4.x.
Actually, I run Netscape 4.x on Linux for literaly days at a time. Mem footprint grows and grows, so I restart it if it sucks up too many resources. But it doesn't often crash and burn.
But - if you're into that kinda wackiness, check out Art Bell. Late nite radio talk show with subjects ranging from Govt Conspiricies, to Alien Abductions, to Ghosts and Goblins.
Slashdot Mirror
Here!
Not from CnD, but fairly early. Sometime in '98 I think.
I faintly remember reading the news section from linux.com(?) at that time, and was thrilled when I found slashdot.
At the time, any mention of Linux or GNU or such in the mainstream press was a fairly big deal.
Actually, Java does support Dynamic Proxies. Check out this class, this Javaworld Article, and this overview at sun.
ebw
Oh - I think a subset can definately change the style and content of a web page.
:
Consider :
I did not rob that bank.
A proper subset of that text is
I did rob that bank.
Those two sentences sure seem different to me.
If you allow modified works in any form, you can quite easily change the meaning of the content.
ebw
OS-X seems fairly cool from the little I've seen of it. I was especially happy to see that a full Java 2 implementation is available on it.
Apple did a good job with this.
One thing to check out is the Gnu/Darwin project here : http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/
ebw
Yes.
Quite true on the power of these things. I started computing with a Trash-80. I'm not saying that linux/X is *bad* for these machines, just that the ui isn't apropriate. I can't imagine doing any real work on one of these. Good folding keyboards may make it happen though.
:P
Watching streaming video on one of these would definately be cool admittedly, although at that point, why not just a pocket TV?
Now Quake on one of these during those horrid employee meetings...
ebw
Well I've been thinking of things like this.
:P
Certainly this is interesting for Hack Value, but would anyone seriously want Linux and X running on a machine like this?
I think that given the size of the screen and the input options for these palmtops, not to mention the cpu/mem constraints dont seem to fit the whole Unix/X way of doing things. I mean are you really going to write a shell script on one of these machines? Do some heavy hacking? I would prefer to develop on an emulator running on a workstation and test on these devices.
I think PalmOS has done a fine job for the UI on their palm machines, and I can't imagine trying to interact with one of these things with programs running in smaller-than-the-screen windows.
Then again maybe I'm just getting grumpy in my old age.
Flame away and call me shortsighted if you must.
ebw
Netscape 6 is a full-featured yet lean browser that bucks the trend in software bloat. Netscape 6 was developed from the ground up to be as small as possible while still providing a rich feature set.
It's always amazing how differently geeks and marketing people see things.
ebw
The mozilla nightly builds have become remarkably usable in recent weeks. I've been impressed. I'm interested to see how this public beta turns out. My non-geek friends didnt seem to like Netscape's last beta. Then again, I don't think anyone did.
ebw
Unfortunately, this bill was shown to infringe on Amazon's latest patent and was sent back to committee...
[/sarcasm]
Wow, all these distributions are finally catching up to Slackware...
ebw
And I was going to port NetBSD to this thing!
Actually, up2date works fine if you replace
priority.redhat.com with ftp.redhat.com.
You're just end up using the public FTP server as
opposed to the dedicated one.
ebw
Actually, the incorrect operation is division by zero. Multiplication by zero is fine.
ebw
Because then people would post something like this :
f1rst p0st !
or
First P*st !
or
F i r s t P o s t !
or
Second Post ( minus one )!
or
El Firsto Posto!
Best to ignore them till they get moderated into oblivion.
ebw
Given that the paper said that this was a destructive algorithm,
I would say that you could win one game.
Too bad you wouldn't be around to enjoy your victory.
ebw
An interesting assesment.
And in a way, right.
The 'fairness' I'm talking about is that which would eliminate loopholes in the law.
True fairness in taxes would be for citizens to pay for services they receive. For example: I drive to work, so I would pay for road maintenence service. Everyone pays for the service that the armed forces provide in terms of national protection... etc etc.
Of course this invokes a knee jerk reaction from most people claiming that it's not fair. The reason for that is simple.
The 'fairness' that most people talk about is that the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor do.
How is that fair?
In terms of services provided, I would argue that the poor get far more value from government ( in terms of value received vs. taxes paid ) than the rich or middle class do.
Why should people who succeed be penalized? Why should I be forced into making charitable donations to various government programs? By making those with more money pay more than those with less money, we are rewarding those who do not work as hard, and punishing those who do.
*That* is backwards.
By using a tax system where people pay for the services that they truly receive, and where people have the *option* of giving charitable donations to government ( or private! ) programs, we eliminate the immoral extortion of money from those that have succeeded financially.
Of course this is considered to be *really* radical, so as a compromise I usually promote the flat sales tax system. There those still pay more for the same service, but it's less blatant, and less open to corruption than the progressive tax we have now.
It boils down to the fact that I don't blindly accept the assumption that people with more money should pay more than people with less money for the same service.
To the extent possible, we treat governments as we would buisnesses. When taxes are raised, ask 'Where is the increase in value that I will receive?' or 'Wouldn't this be better handled privately?'
Then again, some think I'm completely insane.
ebw
I would prefer a small national sales tax.
This way the 'rich' pay more in taxes because they buy more goods.
The poor pay less in taxes because they buy less goods.
Fair. No holes, tricks or slight of hand.
It will never happen however and this is why :
By having the tax code so god awfully complicated,
two things are achieved.
1) americans pay more taxes than they legally should have to.
2) special interest groups and pet projects of our representitives can get tax breaks hidden within the complex code.
#1 makes the members of govt happy since they have more money to play with.
#2 makes the members of govt happy since it gives them LOTS of power.
A small, equal national sales tax would eliminate both of those reasons, which is why it will never happen.
Politics has historically attracted the worst of the worst of the human race. ( with notable exceptions of course )
Cheers!
ebw
twm is highly configable and I have used it without a mouse in the past without too much trouble.
ebw
> No, I'd say an hour is fairly acceptable for an alpha version. That would already be an improvement over Netscape 4.x.
:)
Actually, I run Netscape 4.x on Linux for literaly days at a time. Mem footprint grows and grows, so I restart it if it sucks up too many resources. But it doesn't often crash and burn.
4.x is 'fairly adequate'.
ebw
I read 3001 and was very disappointed.
Nowhere near as good as the other three.
ebw
How are the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence offensive to people in the US?
I'm confused.
ebw
:(
I love his films.
He'll be missed.
ebw
Hoagland is a lil wacky.
But - if you're into that kinda wackiness, check out Art Bell. Late nite radio talk show with subjects ranging from Govt Conspiricies, to Alien Abductions, to Ghosts and Goblins.
http://www.artbell.com
ebw