first of all, jackass, the internet is a fucking WAN. So you dont need to go out and 'get one'.
What I said is that you are blaming MS for the stupidity of the administrators. Its not Gates' fault they cant RTFM.
And you said Moz offered a great solution to a problem caused by people not knowing how to work with something they get paid to work with. Seems like a limited use application, doesnt it?
So, 't0ny', until you can ASK an intelligent question about what we do and how we do it - your one-liners have little meaning
What I said was as much a question as me asking if you have a brain. We both know you dont, and my question was a rhetorical one. So once you figure out what the fuck you are doing, you can come back and talk.
Til then, STFU and let the technical people handle the technical stuff.
What I dont understand is that, if you Mac and Linux guys hate MS so much, why do you whine so much when they trim back features on their Mac Office program? Seems like you would just be happier switching to Open Office or something.
Oh wait- Darth Vader, why dont you go and file Senator Palpatine's taxes, and be sure to get deductions for his Imperial Star Destroyers. We get a bigger refund if you use the "Galactic Usurper" exemptions.
While these numbers will no doubt come as a disappointment for Mac zealots who wanted to blow away all the Intel machines, it should still be noted that this is the best price/performance ratio ever achieved on a supercomputer.
Way to go there; lets just keep encouraging their terrorism.
given how long IPv6 has been a viable protocol, I have to say its about time. One thing that has me worried is that pretty much everybody knows and accepts that a switch over to IPv6 will happen, nobody is really preparing for it. I havent encountered a single network which uses is (or is even set up with the assumption of changing).
I guess we can always say the switch is far off anyway, but its really much better to be proactive about these things. Imagine how impressed bosses/clients would be if they hear about the internet switching over to IPv6, and you tell them they were already prepared for it!
You, sir, sound like one of those zealot terrorists.
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Im just restricting access by MAC addresses. There are ways around that, too, and it doesnt prevent eavesdropping, but at least its a bit better.
Maybe Ill just see about setting up a VPN here...
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I agree. Its amazing how people here blast MS, claiming lax security, but they blissfully use and promote 802.11
I guess bad security is ok as long as it allows us to view pr0n in the bathroom.
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Let's take Slashdot as an example. If you post a well thought-out post about Windows' strengths and it is on-topic for the debate, you will see very few flames, if any. However, most of the pro-Windows posts here are exactly that: Pro-Windows to an extreme, and they attract attention.
I know from personal experience this isnt true. People here want to hear that MS is buggy crap created by some ungodly evil empire, who is forcing people under the threat of murderous death squads to use their operating system. They also want to hear how Linus Skywalker and his plucky band of rebels are going to fire and Open Source Torpedo into the Death Star's thermal exhaust port.
AND they want to hear all this whether it is true or not, Im sorry to say.
Most of the stuff I post is pro-MS, because I work with the stuff all the time. I am an expert on the subject matter, while most people here are not. Furthermore, most people here are posting things about Windows which are entirely untrue, especially concerning what it can and cant do. They are speaking authoritatively from a position of ignorance, which I find very annoying.
I also make very few claims regarding what linux can or cant do, because I dont know linux. What I do know is corporate enterprises, risks, costs and effects, and tons of reasons why a company wouldnt gut its MS infrastructure just because some fifteen year old with too much angst thinks that MS has to go down.
Neither I nor anyone I know has anything against open source. Thats like saying you have something against people writing magazine articles. If you want to write code in your spare time, more power to ya!
But quite honestly, the majority of OSS projects arent ready for the big time (even if people dont want to hear it). For example, Linux may be good as a desktop OS for some people, but for your average non-technical user? No way. These people FEAR a CLI. Heck, they get scared if somebody walks them thru troubleshooting over the phone. But you cant get mad, because if they wanted to do this kind of stuff, they would have went into IT. Im not calling my doctor and asking him how to fix an ingrown toenail with my nail clippers.
When a new security hole in a Microsoft product is posted on Slashdot, these people will start talking about how holes are only discovered "because Windows is more popular than Linux" or similar, which of course is an old and tired claim, especially considering the fact that open-source product Apache, which is more widely used than any other web server, has had far fewer security holes than Microsoft's IIS.
The problem I see is that around here, each petty Windows patch goes up on a times square billboard, while Linux and other OSS patches arent even mentioned. Part of it is that a lot of OSS doesnt use patches, they just save it all for the next version. Then they can just gloss over the update by giving people different colored buttons or some such fluff.
If you think Linux distros are so secure and flawless, try checking http://www.linuxsecurity.com/advisories/index.html sometime. They have JUST as many updates as MS.
Personally, I think it IS the additional scrutiny on MS, and eventually it is going to reach a point where fewer and fewer things will be found. Then, you will start seing hackers move over to an easier target, which will be something with lots of users and less scrutiny. When that eventually happens, the shoe will be on the other foot. This isnt a bad thing, or ill-wishing, however. Its a natural occurence, and in the end it improves the product.
but is Open source and Linux that perfect that it cannot stand critics that may (or may not) have valid points?
It is on Slashdot. Here, there are no valid points which are not both anti-MS and pro-lunix.
I'm not saying that the writer of the original email was right or wrong, but it's instantly dismissed...almost to the point of "don't even read it, it's flamebait". Well, I did read it and his point about zealots from ANY walk of life do have the potential of spinning out of control and going into illegal and dangerous areas. I said potential...I'm not saying that they WILL do this. Just that the potential is there.
Having this whole discussion on Slashdot, with its moderation system, is like being forced to talk about the pot calling the kettle black, but without being able to use the words "pot", "black", or "the".
LOL, ya, they must have gotten a share of the bribe money Bungie was paid for delaying PC/Mac Halo, and another share of what was paid to Bioware for delaying KOTOR on the PC.
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Time to Photoshop up another crappy Borg!
Heck, I'll bet they spent more than that advertising "Gigli"
I wonder how many fish in the catelogue will be extinct within ten years.
What I said is that you are blaming MS for the stupidity of the administrators. Its not Gates' fault they cant RTFM.
And you said Moz offered a great solution to a problem caused by people not knowing how to work with something they get paid to work with. Seems like a limited use application, doesnt it?
So, 't0ny', until you can ASK an intelligent question about what we do and how we do it - your one-liners have little meaning
What I said was as much a question as me asking if you have a brain. We both know you dont, and my question was a rhetorical one. So once you figure out what the fuck you are doing, you can come back and talk.
Til then, STFU and let the technical people handle the technical stuff.
What I dont understand is that, if you Mac and Linux guys hate MS so much, why do you whine so much when they trim back features on their Mac Office program? Seems like you would just be happier switching to Open Office or something.
You're right, calling it an 0.1 upgrade ISNT fair.
Tell their WAN people to learn what the f**k they are doing. It doesnt have to work like that.
So when something by MS is designed simply (like IE), it is bad.
But if you make a computer with one mouse button, and iTunes software that only does a few things, like Apple, it is good.
Ive said it before, and Ill say it again- its just a web browser. Get a grip.
All of this could have been avoided if the idiots in the Judicial Branch would have allowed existing 'junk fax' laws apply to email.
Oh wait- Darth Vader, why dont you go and file Senator Palpatine's taxes, and be sure to get deductions for his Imperial Star Destroyers. We get a bigger refund if you use the "Galactic Usurper" exemptions.
Oh wait, Kazaa already does that...
"Bill Gates said of Office 'it's too hard to find things in e-mail' and described some features of Word as 'clunky.'""
And of course, everything MS does has to fit into some ulterior motive consipracy plan.
Please dont take away the warm security blanket of our conspiracy fears. Its all we have left.
This is a joke. How the FUCK does this get modded a troll?
Way to go there; lets just keep encouraging their terrorism.
given how long IPv6 has been a viable protocol, I have to say its about time. One thing that has me worried is that pretty much everybody knows and accepts that a switch over to IPv6 will happen, nobody is really preparing for it. I havent encountered a single network which uses is (or is even set up with the assumption of changing).
I guess we can always say the switch is far off anyway, but its really much better to be proactive about these things. Imagine how impressed bosses/clients would be if they hear about the internet switching over to IPv6, and you tell them they were already prepared for it!
they are hoping (praying) (preying?) to get people to switch to an OSS instead of MS Office.
Did they play Ogg?
You, sir, sound like one of those zealot terrorists.
Maybe Ill just see about setting up a VPN here...
I agree. Its amazing how people here blast MS, claiming lax security, but they blissfully use and promote 802.11 I guess bad security is ok as long as it allows us to view pr0n in the bathroom.
you forgot Ogg-listening
When are we going to switch to using Mako reactors?
I know from personal experience this isnt true. People here want to hear that MS is buggy crap created by some ungodly evil empire, who is forcing people under the threat of murderous death squads to use their operating system. They also want to hear how Linus Skywalker and his plucky band of rebels are going to fire and Open Source Torpedo into the Death Star's thermal exhaust port.
AND they want to hear all this whether it is true or not, Im sorry to say.
Most of the stuff I post is pro-MS, because I work with the stuff all the time. I am an expert on the subject matter, while most people here are not. Furthermore, most people here are posting things about Windows which are entirely untrue, especially concerning what it can and cant do. They are speaking authoritatively from a position of ignorance, which I find very annoying.
I also make very few claims regarding what linux can or cant do, because I dont know linux. What I do know is corporate enterprises, risks, costs and effects, and tons of reasons why a company wouldnt gut its MS infrastructure just because some fifteen year old with too much angst thinks that MS has to go down.
Neither I nor anyone I know has anything against open source. Thats like saying you have something against people writing magazine articles. If you want to write code in your spare time, more power to ya!
But quite honestly, the majority of OSS projects arent ready for the big time (even if people dont want to hear it). For example, Linux may be good as a desktop OS for some people, but for your average non-technical user? No way. These people FEAR a CLI. Heck, they get scared if somebody walks them thru troubleshooting over the phone. But you cant get mad, because if they wanted to do this kind of stuff, they would have went into IT. Im not calling my doctor and asking him how to fix an ingrown toenail with my nail clippers.
When a new security hole in a Microsoft product is posted on Slashdot, these people will start talking about how holes are only discovered "because Windows is more popular than Linux" or similar, which of course is an old and tired claim, especially considering the fact that open-source product Apache, which is more widely used than any other web server, has had far fewer security holes than Microsoft's IIS.
The problem I see is that around here, each petty Windows patch goes up on a times square billboard, while Linux and other OSS patches arent even mentioned. Part of it is that a lot of OSS doesnt use patches, they just save it all for the next version. Then they can just gloss over the update by giving people different colored buttons or some such fluff.
If you think Linux distros are so secure and flawless, try checking http://www.linuxsecurity.com/advisories/index.html sometime. They have JUST as many updates as MS.
Personally, I think it IS the additional scrutiny on MS, and eventually it is going to reach a point where fewer and fewer things will be found. Then, you will start seing hackers move over to an easier target, which will be something with lots of users and less scrutiny. When that eventually happens, the shoe will be on the other foot. This isnt a bad thing, or ill-wishing, however. Its a natural occurence, and in the end it improves the product.
It is on Slashdot. Here, there are no valid points which are not both anti-MS and pro-lunix.
I'm not saying that the writer of the original email was right or wrong, but it's instantly dismissed...almost to the point of "don't even read it, it's flamebait". Well, I did read it and his point about zealots from ANY walk of life do have the potential of spinning out of control and going into illegal and dangerous areas. I said potential...I'm not saying that they WILL do this. Just that the potential is there.
Having this whole discussion on Slashdot, with its moderation system, is like being forced to talk about the pot calling the kettle black, but without being able to use the words "pot", "black", or "the".
LOL, ya, they must have gotten a share of the bribe money Bungie was paid for delaying PC/Mac Halo, and another share of what was paid to Bioware for delaying KOTOR on the PC.