I agree with you in some respects. I am SOOOOO not the typical open source zealot.. but I must say having to rely on one company for patches, not being able to do it yourself and just buggy software in general... closed source sorta bothers me. BUT it is released a LOT quicker than opensource. I have been enjoying Internet Explorer over netscape for a long time because that opensource model for mozilla failed a long time ago. Just my opinion. But it has taken too long and I have stopped thinking of netscape as a solution. So many cool open source projects going on out there... but most of the cool ones I am interested in have been going on for YEARS and look no closer to completion than they did a few years ago. So on one hand you have slow to finish open source with publicly viewable code.. faster to fix. On the other you have closed source... its a companies ass if they don't produce it quick enough.. so it comes out quick... is for the most part quite usable... however sometimes buggy... Too bad there can't be an inbetween... where it comes out quick and can be fixed by the public. I guess it all has to do with the amount of people willing to work for free associated with open source.
yeah i posted it. oh well its become expected to see things like this. I post a story that finally gets accepted and it never sees the front page. goes straight to yro... a section that I never go to and a lot of others never do either. someone finally told me my story went up there. and now tacoboy posts this on the front page. its pretty typical.
Check this out.
Well mission critical is debatable.. we host websites for about 20 companies and my whole need for getting the server back up quickly is so I don't hear the phone ring off the hook with "WHy is my website down?!". Its a large hard drive and yeah FSCK took way too long when it was on the old box.
I didn't recompile a kernel specifically for reiserFS I just made a new box, installed mandrake 7 with reiser and migrated all the websites to the new box.
We have a tape backup of everything just in case. But its quite nice to have Reiser. And as one guy pointed out apparently it is supposed to be faster. But again I wouldn't know because I don't have any way to push it to test. And another guy mentioned hardware level preventative measures to stop morons from touching my machines. That will come in handy... if i can get in there on a sunday morning at like 3 am when none of our clients are watching:)
I also turned off the captured ctrl-alt-del because we used to have an NT box and my boss would pick up the wrong keyboard to log in and reboot my server. Damn NT.... anyway KVMs and separation helped.
What more can you say? I personally think this will give journaling a run for its money. I use Reiser(advertisment)FS on my server at work because of a few uncontrolable things that happen. Server room isn't locked.... nothing i can do about it. So after all the "oops... i turned off the wrong machine, Larry"'s I get from people, turning on the machine and having it back up in a few seconds is crucial. I haven't noticed a performance hit but we aren't a big company and our servers are not taxed too terribly much. But thats no reason to not do better. This Filesystem looks like it offers stability and performance. I am glad to see it happening.:) Thanks.
hey im all for free speech and rights... but uh come on.. they are just getting seriously strict on something that should happen anyway... blocking access to violent material to those who are deemed unaffected by it. Namely adults. You could argue all day long that if you are 16 it doesn't affect you. Ok thats great but it will other 16 year olds. Our country has said that anyone under 21 shouldn't drink. Would slashdot get in an uproar if some lawyers trying to challenge that failed? There is a line on free speech and what is decent and moral. I am not a religious bible thumper either. God can bite me. But I think we all need to refrain from becoming rabid at everyone trying to enforce a little bit of law.
Games say mature on them.. 17+ so the law just says "yeah you aren't sposed to sell it to younger people... and we back this rating". Maybe them saying 18 in this case is kinda dumb since the rating says 17 i think. Anyway there is a right and wrong. And we need to fight against the wrongs and let the rights happen.
Yeah I once loved Netscape like most everyone did.. But the fact is it is dead. Hell the current Mozilla sucks to no end and makes me depressed to browse the web on linux. I use linux and I have to use Netscape 4.7x because I have NO real alternative. &trade doesn't even work in that... the fonts are disgusting.. of course there are work arounds.. but it is just OLD technology. In Mozilla I can't even copy text from it. I can't drag things to the personal tool bar. It will never be a good product and I am tired of waiting. When I use IE I am delighted. It is a very good product and I really think it is the best browser available. The one on my mac is even better than the windows version. I would absolutely LOVE IE to be available to Linux users. I am tired of browsing with a dinosaur.
Yeah linux is a disruptive technology. It disrupts the hold microsoft has on the market. The disruptive qualities are good ones and I am glad something does disrupt someone telling me what I have to run and making my mind up for me. With the guy who wrote this article making this to be a bad thing and of course missing the point all together is like saying America was a disruptive technology in WWII. I mean hitler had it all figured out right? Why did we get in there and disrupt his plan?
I have become so sickened at the companies today that just try to get the quick buck without investing time into a strategy and coming up with their own ideas. They see that they can sell stuff online really quick by using a Microsoft product. They don't think about all the downtime they will have to deal with. They don't think about the instability or insecurity of the platform. They just see dollar signs. Fortunately those who think like this lose their money eventually and their company crumbles. Closed source code is why this happened. I would be interested in finding out how this info came to be. I mean it being closed source, they could have kept it secret forever. It obviously was intentional because supervisors have to look the code over. This sort of thing would never come to pass in Apache because we can look at the code before we compile it. I really wonder about society today when they let a company rape them and hold their hand to the next raping. *Sigh*
All this will do is piss off their users. I guess slashnet, undernet, dalnet, and efnet will be getting some more regular users. I mean its not like IRCnet is the only irc network out there. If you lock people out they will go elsewhere and not come back. I dunno what that accomplishes.
Is anyone else tired of Microsoft paid or founded companies releasing poll data and benchmarks that are in their favor? Shouldn't it be illegal to post results in such a bias? I dunno, this stuff is just sorta sad that people let this keep happening. It should be fraud. Who knows.
I agree with you on everything you have said. I love linux and try to do everything with linux. But as a Network Admin at my company we have to come up with cheap quick solutions to everything. And on the client side I have done the same with WMP. On the Server side I use Windows Media Server for this reason. IT IS FREE. Everything surrounding it is free. The player, the producer (encoder) and the server. Absolutely no costs involved.
We looked into different things when some clients of ours wanted streaming audio and video on their websites. Real costs soooooo much that it isn't worth bothering with. I mean its like 700 something for the producer.... Why bother?
I am not fond of Microsoft, but they do make some great products... maybe not an OS but IE is the best browser out there. I would use it on Linux if they would get their heads out their ass. Anyway. I use what I can get for free and deploy the quickest.
Yes I can say that when I ran Mandrake 6.0 (last week) odd things would happen. The kernel would panic more so than I have ever experienced. Other programs would freeze alot more. It was just an odd sort of experience. While things ran a alot faster on my ancient P200 I still would rather stability over speed.
He says that learning how to do tech support is mostly all memorization. Oh I see. It wouldn't require any kind of problem solving skills or anything... or the ability to adapt to any situation that isn't in your little book of solutions. The comparisson to the teacher making fun of the student is wrong as well. The tech is paid to listen to the user tell him (he/she) is the idiot. They sit through a call where every other minute a death threat is pouring out. Sometimes the people call in and just defy what you consider common sense. At that point to relieve some stress why not joke about them with your fellow friends. And why not wake up and read a cartoon as funny as userfriendly each morning. Isn't it our right to decide? Techs are not teaching the user like a teacher teaches a child. We are telling someone who doesn't really want to learn how to get out of a problem they created only to have them call back in a week with the same problem not having learned a thing from their mistakes.
hehe it seems people get so flamed about this guy speaking out his opinion. Everyone takes everything he comments about and picks it apart like the bible. Should he be shot because he forgot it was "ON" instead of "IN"? I don't know the guy but I do know he has an interesting point of view on a lot of topics. He is opinionated but who isn't? Its everyone's right to be just that.
As for this movie... I won't go see it for a couple of reasons. And this is my OPINION.
1) Andy was funny because of his insanity but I don't want to see carrey as Andy. I just don't think I would enjoy that. I like carrey but I don't think this will be good.
2) BIG TIME OPINION: I will NEVER see a movie with Courtney Love in it because her entire career has been based on the death of her husband... a man she by most of the facts released, killed or had killed. She disgusts me and she has no talent.. only tits.
3) Well I don't need a 3 but I felt like making it look like I had alot to say.:)
Anyway. Its a movie. Let anyone review it. Katz words aren't law. If you disagree with his review read another few.
Hmm Microsoft is using the "You stole it first so we can steal it too" excuse again with this name your price thing.
Apple made a nice gui... mostly from Xerox code but still did alot with it... they didn't steal it.. they took something they knew would be big from someone who wasn't going to take it in the direction it needed to go in. And I believe they bought it.
So Microsoft steals the MacOS idea and turns it into windows and pisses off jobs (who doesn't). Gates responce is "You stole it from Xerox so we can steal it from you."
This is the standard excuse they seem to be throwing out. The only difference between Microsoft and these people they steal from is those other companies are creating beauty and innovating. Microsoft is just buying and incorporating.
Money can go a long way but I think we all see they are losing their grip.:)
Like alot of people here have said, no one is going to use this cad package. They have all of their files in AutoCAD format or something else. When I was a CAD Operator we used Microstation and you can't just switch packages because it is on a better os. And lemme tell you... it would be nice if that could happen because it running on Windows NT is horrible. I had to reboot multiple times a day because of memory problems.
But you see, Microstation has these 3rd party extensions like fieldworks and draftworks by intergraph that make up more than 50% of it's total functionality for what we were doing. This could not be applied to another cad package and I am not sure if you could simply move Microstation to another OS. I don't know if the Intergraph parts would still be functional. Once the CAD community starts demanding, I am sure change will happen. But it still may be some time. I mean in a professional business like CAD, there is no time to deal with silly issues like memory leaks and faulty Operating Systems. Its time to wise up and just use what works.
Also to the person that said Microstation was on the mac. Do the intergraph plugins work there too? That would at least be somewhat better. Then again I am not a CAD Operator anymore. hehe.
Are you kidding? Off topic? It illustrates an example of the bad effects of a buyout. Its very on topic. And look how someone who was offended decided to become less than professional. Thats sad guys. Really sad. This is what buyouts produce.
I am not sure if this is good or not. I love the abundance of info out there in the linux community but it does seem to be the trent for these guys to jump at the highest bidder. I love slashdot and continue to read it after the acquisition but in all honesty, it has not gotten better with the monetary backing. News stories are usually posted several times, restating what we all know because we have read it here before. Alot of the news read here is very late, having seen it on zdnn or somewhere else a week or month earlier. Slashdot is not what it used to be. But I still come here because it is still good. Just not great. So as for these other places selling to larger companies. I just wish the best for them and hope they keep the same determination and love for this community. Don't let the money go to your head. Use it to better service what we are.
I was reading the jennicam webpage a while back and she linked to an interview she did with, I am guessing a spanish magazine. Well it said something to the effect of "Jennifer K Ringley, 23 anos," and when babelfish translated it, it became "Jennifer K Ringley, 23 anuses" I quickly emailed her to inform her that she may suffer from multiple ass syndrome. Maybe that evil scientist from South Park got ahold of her.:)
You are forgetting that after y2k nothing will really matter. And 5cents will be too expensive because our economy will colapse.... more prozac please.
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I agree with you in some respects. I am SOOOOO not the typical open source zealot.. but I must say having to rely on one company for patches, not being able to do it yourself and just buggy software in general... closed source sorta bothers me. BUT it is released a LOT quicker than opensource. I have been enjoying Internet Explorer over netscape for a long time because that opensource model for mozilla failed a long time ago. Just my opinion. But it has taken too long and I have stopped thinking of netscape as a solution. So many cool open source projects going on out there... but most of the cool ones I am interested in have been going on for YEARS and look no closer to completion than they did a few years ago. So on one hand you have slow to finish open source with publicly viewable code.. faster to fix. On the other you have closed source... its a companies ass if they don't produce it quick enough.. so it comes out quick... is for the most part quite usable... however sometimes buggy... Too bad there can't be an inbetween... where it comes out quick and can be fixed by the public. I guess it all has to do with the amount of people willing to work for free associated with open source.
yeah i posted it. oh well its become expected to see things like this. I post a story that finally gets accepted and it never sees the front page. goes straight to yro... a section that I never go to and a lot of others never do either. someone finally told me my story went up there. and now tacoboy posts this on the front page. its pretty typical. Check this out.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/16/123724 8&mode=thread
Well mission critical is debatable.. we host websites for about 20 companies and my whole need for getting the server back up quickly is so I don't hear the phone ring off the hook with "WHy is my website down?!". Its a large hard drive and yeah FSCK took way too long when it was on the old box.
:)
I didn't recompile a kernel specifically for reiserFS I just made a new box, installed mandrake 7 with reiser and migrated all the websites to the new box.
We have a tape backup of everything just in case. But its quite nice to have Reiser. And as one guy pointed out apparently it is supposed to be faster. But again I wouldn't know because I don't have any way to push it to test. And another guy mentioned hardware level preventative measures to stop morons from touching my machines. That will come in handy... if i can get in there on a sunday morning at like 3 am when none of our clients are watching
I also turned off the captured ctrl-alt-del because we used to have an NT box and my boss would pick up the wrong keyboard to log in and reboot my server. Damn NT.... anyway KVMs and separation helped.
What more can you say? I personally think this will give journaling a run for its money. I use Reiser(advertisment)FS on my server at work because of a few uncontrolable things that happen. Server room isn't locked.... nothing i can do about it. So after all the "oops... i turned off the wrong machine, Larry"'s I get from people, turning on the machine and having it back up in a few seconds is crucial. I haven't noticed a performance hit but we aren't a big company and our servers are not taxed too terribly much. But thats no reason to not do better. This Filesystem looks like it offers stability and performance. I am glad to see it happening. :) Thanks.
hey im all for free speech and rights... but uh come on.. they are just getting seriously strict on something that should happen anyway... blocking access to violent material to those who are deemed unaffected by it. Namely adults. You could argue all day long that if you are 16 it doesn't affect you. Ok thats great but it will other 16 year olds. Our country has said that anyone under 21 shouldn't drink. Would slashdot get in an uproar if some lawyers trying to challenge that failed? There is a line on free speech and what is decent and moral. I am not a religious bible thumper either. God can bite me. But I think we all need to refrain from becoming rabid at everyone trying to enforce a little bit of law.
Games say mature on them.. 17+ so the law just says "yeah you aren't sposed to sell it to younger people... and we back this rating". Maybe them saying 18 in this case is kinda dumb since the rating says 17 i think. Anyway there is a right and wrong. And we need to fight against the wrongs and let the rights happen.
Yeah I once loved Netscape like most everyone did.. But the fact is it is dead. Hell the current Mozilla sucks to no end and makes me depressed to browse the web on linux. I use linux and I have to use Netscape 4.7x because I have NO real alternative. &trade doesn't even work in that... the fonts are disgusting.. of course there are work arounds.. but it is just OLD technology. In Mozilla I can't even copy text from it. I can't drag things to the personal tool bar. It will never be a good product and I am tired of waiting. When I use IE I am delighted. It is a very good product and I really think it is the best browser available. The one on my mac is even better than the windows version. I would absolutely LOVE IE to be available to Linux users. I am tired of browsing with a dinosaur.
At this rate a 2.4 version of debian will be out by 2049. Woo!
Were you saying slashdot was an independant site? Its apparently just like ZDnet now.
Cept it doesn't really break news.
But it is a buyout thing.
Yeah linux is a disruptive technology. It disrupts the hold microsoft has on the market. The disruptive qualities are good ones and I am glad something does disrupt someone telling me what I have to run and making my mind up for me.
With the guy who wrote this article making this to be a bad thing and of course missing the point all together is like saying America was a disruptive technology in WWII. I mean hitler had it all figured out right? Why did we get in there and disrupt his plan?
I have become so sickened at the companies today that just try to get the quick buck without investing time into a strategy and coming up with their own ideas. They see that they can sell stuff online really quick by using a Microsoft product. They don't think about all the downtime they will have to deal with. They don't think about the instability or insecurity of the platform. They just see dollar signs. Fortunately those who think like this lose their money eventually and their company crumbles.
Closed source code is why this happened. I would be interested in finding out how this info came to be. I mean it being closed source, they could have kept it secret forever. It obviously was intentional because supervisors have to look the code over. This sort of thing would never come to pass in Apache because we can look at the code before we compile it. I really wonder about society today when they let a company rape them and hold their hand to the next raping.
*Sigh*
IRNI
All this will do is piss off their users. I guess slashnet, undernet, dalnet, and efnet will be getting some more regular users. I mean its not like IRCnet is the only irc network out there. If you lock people out they will go elsewhere and not come back. I dunno what that accomplishes.
Is anyone else tired of Microsoft paid or founded companies releasing poll data and benchmarks that are in their favor? Shouldn't it be illegal to post results in such a bias? I dunno, this stuff is just sorta sad that people let this keep happening. It should be fraud. Who knows.
I agree with you on everything you have said. I love linux and try to do everything with linux. But as a Network Admin at my company we have to come up with cheap quick solutions to everything. And on the client side I have done the same with WMP. On the Server side I use Windows Media Server for this reason. IT IS FREE. Everything surrounding it is free. The player, the producer (encoder) and the server. Absolutely no costs involved.
We looked into different things when some clients of ours wanted streaming audio and video on their websites. Real costs soooooo much that it isn't worth bothering with. I mean its like 700 something for the producer.... Why bother?
I am not fond of Microsoft, but they do make some great products... maybe not an OS but IE is the best browser out there. I would use it on Linux if they would get their heads out their ass. Anyway. I use what I can get for free and deploy the quickest.
IRNI
Yes I can say that when I ran Mandrake 6.0 (last week) odd things would happen. The kernel would panic more so than I have ever experienced. Other programs would freeze alot more. It was just an odd sort of experience. While things ran a alot faster on my ancient P200 I still would rather stability over speed.
Oh yeah and cxreg likes to wear his mom's bra.
The link on the post looks screwed. here it is.. html?chkpt=zdnntop
http:// www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2422036,00
He says that learning how to do tech support is mostly all memorization. Oh I see. It wouldn't require any kind of problem solving skills or anything... or the ability to adapt to any situation that isn't in your little book of solutions.
The comparisson to the teacher making fun of the student is wrong as well. The tech is paid to listen to the user tell him (he/she) is the idiot. They sit through a call where every other minute a death threat is pouring out. Sometimes the people call in and just defy what you consider common sense. At that point to relieve some stress why not joke about them with your fellow friends. And why not wake up and read a cartoon as funny as userfriendly each morning. Isn't it our right to decide? Techs are not teaching the user like a teacher teaches a child. We are telling someone who doesn't really want to learn how to get out of a problem they created only to have them call back in a week with the same problem not having learned a thing from their mistakes.
*sigh*
hehe it seems people get so flamed about this guy speaking out his opinion. Everyone takes everything he comments about and picks it apart like the bible. Should he be shot because he forgot it was "ON" instead of "IN"? I don't know the guy but I do know he has an interesting point of view on a lot of topics. He is opinionated but who isn't? Its everyone's right to be just that.
:)
As for this movie... I won't go see it for a couple of reasons. And this is my OPINION.
1) Andy was funny because of his insanity but I don't want to see carrey as Andy. I just don't think I would enjoy that. I like carrey but I don't think this will be good.
2) BIG TIME OPINION: I will NEVER see a movie with Courtney Love in it because her entire career has been based on the death of her husband... a man she by most of the facts released, killed or had killed. She disgusts me and she has no talent.. only tits.
3) Well I don't need a 3 but I felt like making it look like I had alot to say.
Anyway. Its a movie. Let anyone review it. Katz words aren't law. If you disagree with his review read another few.
If the windows API was opened because of the DOJ trial, what would you do?
A) Exploit every weakness from here to kingdom come, thereby propelling linux to the forefront.
B) fix everything and tell microsoft so they can make the changes show up in a new release
C) Do A) and grin real big and giggle lots
D) Other | Please Specify ___________________
Hmm Microsoft is using the "You stole it first so we can steal it too" excuse again with this name your price thing.
:)
Apple made a nice gui... mostly from Xerox code but still did alot with it... they didn't steal it.. they took something they knew would be big from someone who wasn't going to take it in the direction it needed to go in. And I believe they bought it.
So Microsoft steals the MacOS idea and turns it into windows and pisses off jobs (who doesn't). Gates responce is "You stole it from Xerox so we can steal it from you."
This is the standard excuse they seem to be throwing out. The only difference between Microsoft and these people they steal from is those other companies are creating beauty and innovating. Microsoft is just buying and incorporating.
Money can go a long way but I think we all see they are losing their grip.
Like alot of people here have said, no one is going to use this cad package. They have all of their files in AutoCAD format or something else. When I was a CAD Operator we used Microstation and you can't just switch packages because it is on a better os. And lemme tell you... it would be nice if that could happen because it running on Windows NT is horrible. I had to reboot multiple times a day because of memory problems.
But you see, Microstation has these 3rd party extensions like fieldworks and draftworks by intergraph that make up more than 50% of it's total functionality for what we were doing. This could not be applied to another cad package and I am not sure if you could simply move Microstation to another OS. I don't know if the Intergraph parts would still be functional. Once the CAD community starts demanding, I am sure change will happen. But it still may be some time. I mean in a professional business like CAD, there is no time to deal with silly issues like memory leaks and faulty Operating Systems. Its time to wise up and just use what works.
Also to the person that said Microstation was on the mac. Do the intergraph plugins work there too? That would at least be somewhat better. Then again I am not a CAD Operator anymore. hehe.
IRNI
Are you kidding? Off topic? It illustrates an example of the bad effects of a buyout. Its very on topic. And look how someone who was offended decided to become less than professional. Thats sad guys. Really sad. This is what buyouts produce.
I am not sure if this is good or not. I love the abundance of info out there in the linux community but it does seem to be the trent for these guys to jump at the highest bidder. I love slashdot and continue to read it after the acquisition but in all honesty, it has not gotten better with the monetary backing. News stories are usually posted several times, restating what we all know because we have read it here before. Alot of the news read here is very late, having seen it on zdnn or somewhere else a week or month earlier. Slashdot is not what it used to be. But I still come here because it is still good. Just not great. So as for these other places selling to larger companies. I just wish the best for them and hope they keep the same determination and love for this community. Don't let the money go to your head. Use it to better service what we are.
Thank You,
IRNI
I was reading the jennicam webpage a while back and she linked to an interview she did with, I am guessing a spanish magazine. Well it said something to the effect of "Jennifer K Ringley, 23 anos," and when babelfish translated it, it became "Jennifer K Ringley, 23 anuses" I quickly emailed her to inform her that she may suffer from multiple ass syndrome. Maybe that evil scientist from South Park got ahold of her. :)
IRNI
You are forgetting that after y2k nothing will
really matter. And 5cents will be too expensive because our economy will colapse.... more prozac please.