They didn't take it away, you had a choice. Keep Linux and forgo PSN and any future required updates, or update the PS3 and lose Linux. Nothing stopping you from buying another PS3 just for games.
You didn't hear PS2 LInux kit owners whining so much on Slashdot because a PS2 HDD with a LInux install couldn't be used with the games that supported the HDD.
SCEfoo was/is quite supportive of open source and hobbyist developers....as long as you follow their rules.
Need I remind you of the:
PSone Net Yaroze Linux (for Playstation 2) OtherOS on the PS3.
SCEfoo really doesn't care what you do with your hardware, as long as you don't use their tools and access to enable piracy.
For example there were all kinds of discussions on the PS2 Linux forums (hosted by SCEfoo itself) about all kinds of things, including discussions of emulators...but discussing ROM's/ISO's/"flip tops"/using the PS2 HDD to "backup" game or other things related to piracy were verboten.
There are still people using OtherOS, since if you wanted to keep it, all you have to do is not update your PS3's firmware. Sure you'll lose access to PSN, but PSN is their playground with their ball, so it's your choice.
and yes, I do have a PS2 Linux kit and did have a YDL install on my PS3. (firefox was a much better web browser on the PS3 than GamOS's sucky Netfront)
Actually the Mythril Mines, after the swamp, is a great place to powerlevel. Enemies in groups, easily killed with Matra Magic, to boost your kill counts for Limit breaks. You can also steal Ethers from the Ark Dragons. Put Aeris in your party with her limit level at 2 for Fury Brand....so you can use your Limit Breaks more (and learn the second one of each level faster) You can also buy "Hyper" at Fort Condor, and get Yuffie in the forest.
GNU screen is as user unfriendly as GNU Info is. Sure if you're a suspender wearing unix graybeard you probably live it.. O course you probably browse the web with wget, use emacs and still use IRC and USENET for communication and NOT piracy.
but normal people are probably better off using a tabbed terminal in X.
They sued the company that actually programmed the rootkit, saying "That was NOT what we told you we wanted and you cost us money to fix the problem you caused"
I think that the OP was referring to providing work as well, not just direct cash payments.
"Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime." Government cannot "solve poverty" any more than it can "create wealth".
You, sir, don't know history. Most certainly government has reduced poverty AND created wealth in the past. quite effectively in fact.
For example...government can hire people to do things that need to be done...if people are complaining about bad roads...it can hire people to fix them.. Local governmental body needs a high school, the feds can build one. They can give out low interest loans to encourage education or home ownership....the middle class as we know it is a government construct dependent on government money. Sending veterans back home to tenements and sharecropping after WWII was a recipe for unrest....GI bill took the pressure off.
Government can create wealth by granting monopolies, contracts or protecting trademarks and copyrights. When NTSC was selected as the US's television standard back in the 50's...that made RCA a LOT Of money. Even such a thing as a government project deciding on using AC generators rather than DC can decide the fate of companies. AT&T is the monolith it is today because of government giving it cart blanche for decades, then breaking it up..and then ignoring it when it was coming back together.
Where do you think the aero-space industry would be without government money, or even IBM.
But still, CEO's, investment bankers, and chamber of commerce types insist on not hiring americans to build things, for higher profits...and then complain that people aren't buying like the used to...and complain about taxes to pay for social services that help the people hurt by the actions of businesses
A person in poverty doesn't have the freedom to start a business, they aren't going to get loans....and they are probably working a job that pays less than it did 20 years ago thanks to the minimum wage not being inflation indexed.
So tell me again how bad poor people are when businessfolk have declared war on them.
And that iOS app is not Atari Anthology, but a separate thing It's not even by Digital Eclipse. You'll also note that on the sidebar it shows in-app downloads...the app is free, but the games it runs aren't.
Of course, even many Costco or WalMart few-hundred dollar HDTVs tend to include HDMI.
Some have VGA and/or DVI as well, and they have built in speakers. You're limited to 720p with the 19" models though... I have a 1080i/720p (actually 1440x900) that I got at wal-mart back in 08.
Where do you get this "free" nonsense. Atari Anthology was most certainly not free, and I an quite certain that Digital Eclipse did not give away whatever tech/software they had.
How could ignore you when I hadn't even seen your other post when I posted thi, impatient much?
The various Atari trademarks are most certainly still active. Check the Atari Anthology box if you don't believe me. And even if the model number isn't still trademarked, the games still are as is the Atari name.
Look, lets be honest...emulators are used for copyright infringement, we all know this. Sure there's a few homebrew games...but the majority of emulator users don't play them.
No, it was released and published by Atari itself...the "developer" was digital eclipse. The PS2 version has the proper ATARI logo and everything. And though we may not like it, Infrogrames IS Atari now. I also do not believe that Digital Eclipse's emulation technology is free to download.
As far as I can tell, they're not going after the emulators themselves, but the sites that host them...that also often link to ROM hosting sites, or sneakily tell you where to go to get them. AtariAge has direct links to ROMS!
Also the "names" are trademarked. So those sites had better be using the ATARI® and 2600â as appropriate.
Yes, but I bet most of those sites link to sites that host the game ROMs and other atari systems did have BIOS's even if the 2600 didn't.
And as far as I know, the "names" of the systems and games are still trademarked. And while some are saying "This isn't the real Atari, they haven't done anything", they most certainly have. Ever hear of Atari Anthology? They've also got an iOS collection out. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ataris-greatest-hits/id422966028?mt=8
More options is always good. The funny thing is, this isn't really new news. Playstation hardware has had occasional keyboard and/or mouse support for PC ports, even on the PSone with the PSone mouse. As was pointed out, several FPS's on the PS2 have keyboard and mouse support, even Dirge of Cerberus has it. (none of those have internet multiplayer though)
While personally you can take my analog stick movement from me only when you pry it from my cold dead hands (I dislike WASD immensely), I like mouse aiming and was quite disappointed when HL2/Portal on the PS3 didn't support it, considering that HL on the PS2 DOES. I'm not a competitive shooter fan, preferring single player games mostly adventure/RPG so Counter-Strike isn't my sort of game.
You are never going to see consoles overtake PCs for serious, competitive FPS gaming, at a high level.
But since the hardware is exactly the same between consoles, wouldn't that make consoles "better" because it's a level playing field and the overclocker guy with the newest video card won't have an advantage, and therefor a true test of skill and not hardware?
No, Anshe didn't make the big bugs in virtual prostitution, that only provided the seed money as far as I know....her big bucks came from her HUGE private island estate business that she build up Dreamland or whatever she calls it. As far as I know she's still the biggest single "Land Baron" in SL.
Except now with sculpt prims, mesh, shadows, and the new 64m limit they can be much nicer looking penises.
I was there, arrived late so I didn't see the start of the griefing. The event hosts were stupid and unprepared, those kinds of attacks are easily stopped.
200 hours spread over 2 and a half years. I got Oblivion in 2008. I've done most of the side quests though, including Knights, Shivering, and the Guild quest lines
Gran Turismo...any Gran Turismo.....license tests. The recent games are even designed with steering wheels in mind...so if you don't have one...the tests will be even HARDER.
Final Fantasy X.......Never did the optional Superpowerful boss in the Calm Lands Arena...for one reason....Lightning Dodging.
To stand a chance in some of the earlier Arena battles to get and grind the massive number of the items needed to make the Ultimate Weapons+1 needed to face that boss, you need Lulu's ultimate weapon...and to do that...you have to lightning dodge.
So I decided I was going to do the main quest and ignore the damn "Ultimate Weapon Boss" in the Calm Lands
I never finished VIII either...because of the damn drawing. I liked the card game though.
The great thing about Oblivion, FO3 and FONV are that the main quest line isn't too long....and all the other stuff is optional. so You can do what you like doing and play the game how you want to play it. They also have good quest logs, maps notes and whatnot, making them easy to get in and out of.
My Oblivion save hit 200 hours before I ever visited Kvatch, and I STILL haven't completed the main quest.
I don't mind shorter games, I actually WANT shorter games, in the 15-25 hour range Ghostbusters was short, but it was a "good short" The PS2 GTA's were long...but a bad long. I only just today got the Platinum Trophy in Fallout 3.
In many games I hit that brick wall. I've never finished GTA3 or Vice City because of that. I hit a brick wall in Champions of Norrath Return to Arms early on, with that goddamned missle shooting mech boss...and I LOVED the first game because it wasn't too long, and I could replay it, Diablo style. I also never hit CLvl 50 in the PSone port of Diablo...the XP costs are INSANE and logarithmic!
Or if I take a break, I come back and there's too much detail in the game to keep track of and I flounder, Final Fantaxy XII I'm lookin at you...next time get a quest log, same goes for the original Kingdom Hearts.
The only people who complain about shorter games are "professional" gamers like game website staff and game magazine staff, and young people with tons of free time. I'm an adult, I don't have time for making my own maps on graph paper, or taking my own notes, I want quest logs and quest trackers, and all the things those people who game to exclusion of other things that complain about "short dumbed down games" hate
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They didn't take it away, you had a choice. Keep Linux and forgo PSN and any future required updates, or update the PS3 and lose Linux. Nothing stopping you from buying another PS3 just for games.
You didn't hear PS2 LInux kit owners whining so much on Slashdot because a PS2 HDD with a LInux install couldn't be used with the games that supported the HDD.
SCEfoo was/is quite supportive of open source and hobbyist developers....as long as you follow their rules.
Need I remind you of the:
PSone Net Yaroze
Linux (for Playstation 2)
OtherOS on the PS3.
SCEfoo really doesn't care what you do with your hardware, as long as you don't use their tools and access to enable piracy.
For example there were all kinds of discussions on the PS2 Linux forums (hosted by SCEfoo itself) about all kinds of things, including discussions of emulators...but discussing ROM's/ISO's/"flip tops"/using the PS2 HDD to "backup" game or other things related to piracy were verboten.
There are still people using OtherOS, since if you wanted to keep it, all you have to do is not update your PS3's firmware. Sure you'll lose access to PSN, but PSN is their playground with their ball, so it's your choice.
and yes, I do have a PS2 Linux kit and did have a YDL install on my PS3. (firefox was a much better web browser on the PS3 than GamOS's sucky Netfront)
Actually the Mythril Mines, after the swamp, is a great place to powerlevel. Enemies in groups, easily killed with Matra Magic, to boost your kill counts for Limit breaks. You can also steal Ethers from the Ark Dragons. Put Aeris in your party with her limit level at 2 for Fury Brand....so you can use your Limit Breaks more (and learn the second one of each level faster) You can also buy "Hyper" at Fort Condor, and get Yuffie in the forest.
Unfortunately, Windows 8 seems intent on turning ordinary PCs into tablet wannabes.
And Gnome 3 as well.
GNU screen is as user unfriendly as GNU Info is. Sure if you're a suspender wearing unix graybeard you probably live it.. O course you probably browse the web with wget, use emacs and still use IRC and USENET for communication and NOT piracy.
but normal people are probably better off using a tabbed terminal in X.
They sued the company that actually programmed the rootkit, saying "That was NOT what we told you we wanted and you cost us money to fix the problem you caused"
I think that the OP was referring to providing work as well, not just direct cash payments.
"Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime." Government cannot "solve poverty" any more than it can "create wealth".
You, sir, don't know history. Most certainly government has reduced poverty AND created wealth in the past. quite effectively in fact.
For example...government can hire people to do things that need to be done...if people are complaining about bad roads...it can hire people to fix them.. Local governmental body needs a high school, the feds can build one. They can give out low interest loans to encourage education or home ownership....the middle class as we know it is a government construct dependent on government money. Sending veterans back home to tenements and sharecropping after WWII was a recipe for unrest....GI bill took the pressure off.
Government can create wealth by granting monopolies, contracts or protecting trademarks and copyrights. When NTSC was selected as the US's television standard back in the 50's...that made RCA a LOT Of money. Even such a thing as a government project deciding on using AC generators rather than DC can decide the fate of companies.
AT&T is the monolith it is today because of government giving it cart blanche for decades, then breaking it up..and then ignoring it when it was coming back together.
Where do you think the aero-space industry would be without government money, or even IBM.
But still, CEO's, investment bankers, and chamber of commerce types insist on not hiring americans to build things, for higher profits...and then complain that people aren't buying like the used to...and complain about taxes to pay for social services that help the people hurt by the actions of businesses
A person in poverty doesn't have the freedom to start a business, they aren't going to get loans....and they are probably working a job that pays less than it did 20 years ago thanks to the minimum wage not being inflation indexed.
So tell me again how bad poor people are when businessfolk have declared war on them.
And that iOS app is not Atari Anthology, but a separate thing It's not even by Digital Eclipse. You'll also note that on the sidebar it shows in-app downloads...the app is free, but the games it runs aren't.
Of course, even many Costco or WalMart few-hundred dollar HDTVs tend to include HDMI.
Some have VGA and/or DVI as well, and they have built in speakers. You're limited to 720p with the 19" models though... I have a 1080i/720p (actually 1440x900) that I got at wal-mart back in 08.
2) TurboTax etc... yep its just one week a year. But millions of completely ordinary people do their taxes with this type of software.
And those people are idiots. They pay money when most of them would qualify for free web file and file the equivalent of the 1040A short form.
Where do you get this "free" nonsense. Atari Anthology was most certainly not free, and I an quite certain that Digital Eclipse did not give away whatever tech/software they had.
How could ignore you when I hadn't even seen your other post when I posted thi, impatient much?
The various Atari trademarks are most certainly still active. Check the Atari Anthology box if you don't believe me. And even if the model number isn't still trademarked, the games still are as is the Atari name.
Look, lets be honest...emulators are used for copyright infringement, we all know this. Sure there's a few homebrew games...but the majority of emulator users don't play them.
Viacom owns CBS which handles all things trek-series related these days, didn't you get the memo?
No, it was released and published by Atari itself...the "developer" was digital eclipse. The PS2 version has the proper ATARI logo and everything. And though we may not like it, Infrogrames IS Atari now. I also do not believe that Digital Eclipse's emulation technology is free to download.
As far as I can tell, they're not going after the emulators themselves, but the sites that host them...that also often link to ROM hosting sites, or sneakily tell you where to go to get them. AtariAge has direct links to ROMS!
Also the "names" are trademarked. So those sites had better be using the ATARI® and 2600â as appropriate.
Yes, but I bet most of those sites link to sites that host the game ROMs and other atari systems did have BIOS's even if the 2600 didn't.
And as far as I know, the "names" of the systems and games are still trademarked. And while some are saying "This isn't the real Atari, they haven't done anything", they most certainly have. Ever hear of Atari Anthology? They've also got an iOS collection out. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ataris-greatest-hits/id422966028?mt=8
More options is always good. The funny thing is, this isn't really new news. Playstation hardware has had occasional keyboard and/or mouse support for PC ports, even on the PSone with the PSone mouse. As was pointed out, several FPS's on the PS2 have keyboard and mouse support, even Dirge of Cerberus has it. (none of those have internet multiplayer though)
While personally you can take my analog stick movement from me only when you pry it from my cold dead hands (I dislike WASD immensely), I like mouse aiming and was quite disappointed when HL2/Portal on the PS3 didn't support it, considering that HL on the PS2 DOES. I'm not a competitive shooter fan, preferring single player games mostly adventure/RPG so Counter-Strike isn't my sort of game.
You are never going to see consoles overtake PCs for serious, competitive FPS gaming, at a high level.
But since the hardware is exactly the same between consoles, wouldn't that make consoles "better" because it's a level playing field and the overclocker guy with the newest video card won't have an advantage, and therefor a true test of skill and not hardware?
No, Anshe didn't make the big bugs in virtual prostitution, that only provided the seed money as far as I know....her big bucks came from her HUGE private island estate business that she build up Dreamland or whatever she calls it. As far as I know she's still the biggest single "Land Baron" in SL.
Except now with sculpt prims, mesh, shadows, and the new 64m limit they can be much nicer looking penises.
I was there, arrived late so I didn't see the start of the griefing. The event hosts were stupid and unprepared, those kinds of attacks are easily stopped.
200 hours spread over 2 and a half years. I got Oblivion in 2008. I've done most of the side quests though, including Knights, Shivering, and the Guild quest lines
Gran Turismo...any Gran Turismo.....license tests. The recent games are even designed with steering wheels in mind...so if you don't have one...the tests will be even HARDER.
Final Fantasy X.......Never did the optional Superpowerful boss in the Calm Lands Arena...for one reason....Lightning Dodging.
To stand a chance in some of the earlier Arena battles to get and grind the massive number of the items needed to make the Ultimate Weapons+1 needed to face that boss, you need Lulu's ultimate weapon...and to do that...you have to lightning dodge.
So I decided I was going to do the main quest and ignore the damn "Ultimate Weapon Boss" in the Calm Lands
I never finished VIII either...because of the damn drawing. I liked the card game though.
The great thing about Oblivion, FO3 and FONV are that the main quest line isn't too long....and all the other stuff is optional. so You can do what you like doing and play the game how you want to play it. They also have good quest logs, maps notes and whatnot, making them easy to get in and out of.
My Oblivion save hit 200 hours before I ever visited Kvatch, and I STILL haven't completed the main quest.
Hey there Insightful.
I don't mind shorter games, I actually WANT shorter games, in the 15-25 hour range Ghostbusters was short, but it was a "good short" The PS2 GTA's were long...but a bad long. I only just today got the Platinum Trophy in Fallout 3.
In many games I hit that brick wall. I've never finished GTA3 or Vice City because of that. I hit a brick wall in Champions of Norrath Return to Arms early on, with that goddamned missle shooting mech boss...and I LOVED the first game because it wasn't too long, and I could replay it, Diablo style. I also never hit CLvl 50 in the PSone port of Diablo...the XP costs are INSANE and logarithmic!
Or if I take a break, I come back and there's too much detail in the game to keep track of and I flounder, Final Fantaxy XII I'm lookin at you...next time get a quest log, same goes for the original Kingdom Hearts.
The only people who complain about shorter games are "professional" gamers like game website staff and game magazine staff, and young people with tons of free time. I'm an adult, I don't have time for making my own maps on graph paper, or taking my own notes, I want quest logs and quest trackers, and all the things those people who game to exclusion of other things that complain about "short dumbed down games" hate