Yes there's a PSOne mouse, but Diablo doesn't support it. Played fine without mouse suppor.
The PSone port of Quake II, however, was a game that did play better with the PSone mouse. I grew to like the hybrid Dual Shock/mouse control and use it in the PS2 FPS's that support it.
IMHO the PSone version of Diablo is "harder" than the PC version. It controls fine though, enable the "combo button" and "relative" movement. You also have to remember to keep the game speed at "normal" (PSone Diablo has a "Fast" speed setting, and boy is it fast)
I'm sort of in the same boat. I can't stand WASD. I use a Dual Shock for movement and the mouse for aiming, it works well for me in the PSone/PS2 games that I have that support it.
There's no need to run Bittorrent on the PSP when one can run it on the PS2 (with Linux) and then transfer files over via USB. Not that I would know anything about that. The PS2 Linux kit's hard dirve would come in handy too, if you need more space add USB hard drive, limited to USB 1.1 speeds though.
Most of the "Linux runs on X" news isn't all that interesting to me. Usually if it would be useful to run Linux on X, it already has a lot of the functionality Linux would give from other software. If X doesn't have software that gives it this functionality already, porting Linux is usually useless for the average chap (like with the PS2).
Linux on the Playstation 2 isn't useless for the average chap since anybody can learn to "use" it even if they never program the thing. It will run applications useful to "average chaps": e-mail clients, web browsers, IRC clients, IM clients, text editors, mp3 players. Bittorrent clients, Nethack..
You can hook up peripherals to the USB ports like flash card readers, digital cameras, hard drives, printers, or the PSP to it.
I've got a lot of use and enjoyment out of my Playstation 2 Linux kit. It's been educational as well.
But I wonder what people are doing with their exotic Linux installations. Linux on the PS2, on a toaster, on the blender, etc. What are these used for besides showing off? Is there some real-life application to having Linux on these things?
Speaking for Linux (for Playstation 2) it's primary purpose is amateur software development. But you can do all sorts of things with it. My kit is my personal "desktop" machine. Read my e-mail, read/post to slashdot, IRC chat, play Nethack, listen to streaming mp3 radio..
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No, Really. The option is right there in the menu. Select it and it says: There are no games on this stick.
I've had Playstation equipment that went bad.....but I put those things through HEAVY use. I read my original Playstation's manual and it said, basically "Hey dude turn it off after a while, it's not supposed to run continuously".
I put my 30001 PS2 through some use that no normal PS2 gets, I left it run, fully on for days on end, because of the Linux kit. Eventually I got DRE's. I called up Sony and they fixed it for free as I knew they would.
My PSP has a perfect LCD screen, it is frickin beautiful. If it has a dead pixel I don't see it.
Sony get a bad rap, and I think they could do better in the PR department. But...I think that we as gamer geeks are NOT normal users and we abuse our equipment. The average person doesn't spend a sleepless weekend playing a new game without shutting the machine off.
I personally believe that Nintendo gets a "free ride" in the geek press out of gamer nostalgia. I also think their PR department is better than Sony's
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I doubt that Nintendo will go Chapter 11 because of the PSP.
Getting out of the hardware business and going software only is a different matter.
What's your preference? lynx, links-text, links-graphic, kfm, gnome help browser, mosaic, Amaya, minimo, Firefox, or Mozilla?
Been browsing on mine since late May of 2002.
http://playstation2-linux.com
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There's only one PDA that i've seen, that has a decent game control setup, that being the Tapwave Zodiac. PDA's aren't really designed with games in mind and it shows, the joysticks/movement devices are often in the center of the bottom of the device. Bad placement! And there aren't enough action buttons where they should be.
Also, the PSP keyboard comes out in May.
As for writeable storage, gee that's what the Memory Stick slot is for.
I do hope Sony does a PDA applcations disk or download for the thing though, Would be nice to be able read/write text files, or login to my PS2 Linux kit via SSH/telnet
Actually the PSP is slightly better suited for Nethack because of the USB port (for an actual keyboard) With 32MB of RAM and an R4000 CPU you could probably run an actual PDA style LInux distro on the thing.
Admittedly the touch screen on the DS could be used as an OSK.
I've got a Linux kit equipped PS2, so I've played Nethack on it.
My first internet access device was a WebTV Plus. I visitied/. on occasion, and saw mention of the Playstation 2 Linux kit, thought it would be a good cheap way to do "computer" things (and learn more about this "Linux thing" mentioned on Slashdot so much) and bought one when they became available. in '02. The Linux kit became my personal machine for the most part, so in '03 I began looking online for a "real" computer for the rest of the tamily's use.
Just to let everyone know, when I pre-ordered the LInux kit, I bought some LInux books and began reading them. When I got my kit, I had it usable for my needs within a day.
I had looked at the Mac's available in spring of 03 but they cost more than I wanted to spend. Eventually I settled on a cheap Gateway laptop. I tried playing a few games on it, but quickly realized that for games, my Playstation 2 was a far superior machine.
However if the Mac Mini had been available then I would have bought one of those instead for sure. It's small, quiet and you can even hook it to the TV if you want.
OS-X is another plus, here's an anecdote. Some time back a friend in IRC had bought a new computer, a Mac. They needed to get themselves identd'd but didn't know how to get that to work on their Mac. I asked if their Mac ran OS-X (just to make certain that they hadn't bought a used older Mac) I had read that OS-X was BSD based so I did a Google search thinking that maybe my limited 'nix knowledge might help out. I found a web site with some VERY familiar insructions, basically they'd have to do what I did to enable identd on my PS2 Linux kit. So I walked them through using Terminal and Vi to edit the config file to set it up and get it running.
I was just so amazed that I already knew how to do things on OS-X without ever having used it. Eventually, I'm going to own a Mac. I don't need Windows at all, not even for games. So I guess I fit your premise.
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Yes there's a PSOne mouse, but Diablo doesn't support it. Played fine without mouse suppor.
The PSone port of Quake II, however, was a game that did play better with the PSone mouse. I grew to like the hybrid Dual Shock/mouse control and use it in the PS2 FPS's that support it.
Actually its a good port, but the game predates the introduction of the Dual Shock so it has no analog movement.
Almost every PS2/PSP Diablo-like uses similar controls but the analog sticks free up the joypad for skill/weapon selection.
IMHO the PSone version of Diablo is "harder" than the PC version. It controls fine though, enable the "combo button" and "relative" movement. You also have to remember to keep the game speed at "normal" (PSone Diablo has a "Fast" speed setting, and boy is it fast)
I'm sort of in the same boat. I can't stand WASD. I use a Dual Shock for movement and the mouse for aiming, it works well for me in the PSone/PS2 games that I have that support it.
Why do you think the Playstation 2 has USB ports?
There's even an offically badged Playstation 2 mouse and keyboard: SCPH-10230 SCPH-10240, which are unavialable in stores.
There's no need to run Bittorrent on the PSP when one can run it on the PS2 (with Linux) and then transfer files over via USB. Not that I would know anything about that. The PS2 Linux kit's hard dirve would come in handy too, if you need more space add USB hard drive, limited to USB 1.1 speeds though.
Linux on the Playstation 2 isn't useless for the average chap since anybody can learn to "use" it even if they never program the thing. It will run applications useful to "average chaps": e-mail clients, web browsers, IRC clients, IM clients, text editors, mp3 players. Bittorrent clients, Nethack..
You can hook up peripherals to the USB ports like flash card readers, digital cameras, hard drives, printers, or the PSP to it.
I've got a lot of use and enjoyment out of my Playstation 2 Linux kit. It's been educational as well.
Speaking for Linux (for Playstation 2) it's primary purpose is amateur software development. But you can do all sorts of things with it. My kit is my personal "desktop" machine. Read my e-mail, read/post to slashdot, IRC chat, play Nethack, listen to streaming mp3 radio..
No, Really. The option is right there in the menu. Select it and it says: There are no games on this stick.
I've had Playstation equipment that went bad.....but I put those things through HEAVY use. I read my original Playstation's manual and it said, basically "Hey dude turn it off after a while, it's not supposed to run continuously".
I put my 30001 PS2 through some use that no normal PS2 gets, I left it run, fully on for days on end, because of the Linux kit. Eventually I got DRE's. I called up Sony and they fixed it for free as I knew they would.
My PSP has a perfect LCD screen, it is frickin beautiful. If it has a dead pixel I don't see it.
Sony get a bad rap, and I think they could do better in the PR department. But...I think that we as gamer geeks are NOT normal users and we abuse our equipment. The average person doesn't spend a sleepless weekend playing a new game without shutting the machine off.
I personally believe that Nintendo gets a "free ride" in the geek press out of gamer nostalgia. I also think their PR department is better than Sony's
I doubt that Nintendo will go Chapter 11 because of the PSP.
Getting out of the hardware business and going software only is a different matter.
drat thought I was the first. Oh well. congrats to the earlier ones.
truly. I am not joking.
What's your preference? lynx, links-text, links-graphic, kfm, gnome help browser, mosaic, Amaya, minimo, Firefox, or Mozilla?
Been browsing on mine since late May of 2002.
http://playstation2-linux.com
There's only one PDA that i've seen, that has a decent game control setup, that being the Tapwave Zodiac. PDA's aren't really designed with games in mind and it shows, the joysticks/movement devices are often in the center of the bottom of the device. Bad placement! And there aren't enough action buttons where they should be.
Also, the PSP keyboard comes out in May.
As for writeable storage, gee that's what the Memory Stick slot is for.
If WinXP (and OSX) treat it is a USB Mass storage device then LInux probably does too.
/mnt/psp
/dev/sda(x) /mnt/psp
I'll test it out with my Playstation 2 Linux kit when I get a PSP but odds are I'll just have to
mkdir
modprobe usb-storage
mount
You mean something like that if you stand next too a locked door the touch screen shows:
Kick the locked door
Apply Key to door
Use Credit Card on door.
Disintegrate the door with wand
etc, depending on your inventory?
That would be interesting.
Dillo might be a better choice than Minimo.
I do hope Sony does a PDA applcations disk or download for the thing though, Would be nice to be able read/write text files, or login to my PS2 Linux kit via SSH/telnet
Actually the PSP is slightly better suited for Nethack because of the USB port (for an actual keyboard) With 32MB of RAM and an R4000 CPU you could probably run an actual PDA style LInux distro on the thing.
Admittedly the touch screen on the DS could be used as an OSK.
I've got a Linux kit equipped PS2, so I've played Nethack on it.
I'm a console gamer.
/. on occasion, and saw mention of the Playstation 2 Linux kit, thought it would be a good cheap way to do "computer" things (and learn more about this "Linux thing" mentioned on Slashdot so much) and bought one when they became available. in '02. The Linux kit became my personal machine for the most part, so in '03 I began looking online for a "real" computer for the rest of the tamily's use.
My first internet access device was a WebTV Plus. I visitied
Just to let everyone know, when I pre-ordered the LInux kit, I bought some LInux books and began reading them. When I got my kit, I had it usable for my needs within a day.
I had looked at the Mac's available in spring of 03 but they cost more than I wanted to spend. Eventually I settled on a cheap Gateway laptop. I tried playing a few games on it, but quickly realized that for games, my Playstation 2 was a far superior machine.
However if the Mac Mini had been available then I would have bought one of those instead for sure. It's small, quiet and you can even hook it to the TV if you want.
OS-X is another plus, here's an anecdote. Some time back a friend in IRC had bought a new computer, a Mac. They needed to get themselves identd'd but didn't know how to get that to work on their Mac. I asked if their Mac ran OS-X (just to make certain that they hadn't bought a used older Mac) I had read that OS-X was BSD based so I did a Google search thinking that maybe my limited 'nix knowledge might help out. I found a web site with some VERY familiar insructions, basically they'd have to do what I did to enable identd on my PS2 Linux kit. So I walked them through using Terminal and Vi to edit the config file to set it up and get it running.
I was just so amazed that I already knew how to do things on OS-X without ever having used it.
Eventually, I'm going to own a Mac. I don't need Windows at all, not even for games. So I guess I fit your premise.
Actually it takes a bit less than a minute and 20 seconds. Thats with Thunderbird (including the loading time). Sylpheed would be much faster.
http://playstation2-linux.com/
The PlayOnline service that comes installed on the FFXI HD also has e-mail.
The PS2 ports of Deus Ex and Half-Life do, as do Red Faction and Unreal Tournament. There may be others as well.
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But on the other hand, I haven't seen a FPS on a console that rivals that of Half Life on the PC
What about Half-Life on the Playstation 2?
Don't forget that some of the PS2's FPS's have keyboard and mouse support.