4 MB Embedded DRAM video memory bandwidth at 48 gigabytes per second
PS2 main RAM is 32MB of RAMBUS RAM.
You know how some PC centric developers complained about the small caches on the PS2? Well the PS2 is not a PC, who needs huge cache when you have bandwidth to burn.. http://arstechnica.com/feature...
The PS3 also has massive bandwidth. The PS4 is more conventional from a PC devs perspective but also uses GDDR5 as main RAM. So yes, the PS2, PS3, PS4 can zip data around inside very quickly.
But, yes, those lost e-mails really are not like that.
Dude, people lose/delete e-mail by accident ALL THE TIME, no conspiracy or ulterior motives involved. It's one of those things that can happen to anyone.
Whatever you might think of Lt-Colonel Norton
His NAME is North.
that business was not for personal gain.
Not directly, but doing what your bosses want can be percieved as personal gain. And destroying evidence, which he did, was most certainly for personal gain. And he has certainly turned his criminal and treasonous acts into a career as a right-wing pundit...for personal gain.
And you may not realize this but Breitbart is not an unbiased source. Neither is IJReview, it's not "Independent" if it's founded and run by Republicans and has Republican biases.
Duude, you are talking to a Ukrainian expat:-)
Then you might want to listen more and spout off less about American politics, tovarysh.
just because you moved to the US (probably to make more money than you could back in the batÊkivshchyna) doesn't mean you have to turn into an Ayn Rand (whose real name is Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum) clone. What is it with ex-russians/ukrainians turning into selfish-asshole right-wing/libertarian zealots once they emigrate. Even Yakov Smirnoff has a bit of that.
Losing e-mails is penny ante stuff compared to the shit that goes down in Eastern Europe, Russia and the BRIC in general. We put people in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for the bribery and corruption that is just "expected" and goes on there.
Ah the good ol` days where you could have "which window manager do you want" as an option in the installer rather than as a completely separate distribution.
It would still be the day if !@#$^& distro maintainers would have made the "everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" full DVD releases the standard instead of the silly tiny CD and 1.4GB DVD "Live" releases.
You just blew my mind. I was one of those thinking why twitter was valued so high, what kind of value is in "poop tweets" or "breakfast tweets", but it's also "I saw this ad, or a friend told me about this product" It's like instant market research.
For someone whose game preferences are not dominated by PS4 exclusives or PC exclusives, how does this build compare technically to the PS4?
It doesn't. It's probably midway between a PS3 and PS4. Its like my computer, the base configuration was no match for the PS3, upgraded it's better but no match for the PS4.
I first added in a GT220, and eventually upgraded the thing to a quad core 2.8GHz Phenom II, 4GB of RAM (it's the max it can handle) and a GT640 rev2.
Basically, it can play Fallout 3 slightly better than the PS3 (main difference is resolution/detail/lighting, VATS is slightly smoother on the PS3 and sound is slightly better on the PS3), but can't play War Thunder as well as the PS4. Now if I was to put a GT970 in it, then it would be somewhat more competitive with the PS4....but that alone is over $300....and I have a PS4. All my PC needs to do is handle my generic computing tasks, and Second Life. (which is pretty much the ONLY reason I have a GT640 in it). If it wasn't for SL, I could make do with less, in fact I probably wouldn't have upgraded the CPU, power supply and GPU.
Not only that, but you can buy a Playstation TV for what is it, $75 now? With that you get access to a bunch of PROVEN PSone, PSP and Vita games better than most of the F2P monetized crap on Android, access to Playstation Now AND you can stream from a PS4.
Would the console makers be as open to indies as they are today if OUYA had never shipped?
They were reasonably open to indies BEFORE Ouya shipped, though they are more so today.
This provision caused problems for Robert Pelloni's company when he wanted to bring Bob's Game to Nintendo DS because the company was operating out of an office in Pelloni's home.
Bob Pelloni's company was just HIM. Aint no way Nintendo was going to give him a license or dev kit when he was basically every stereotype of a "wanna be game developer with SERIOUS Aspergers" His disability was just that severe. Now you may feel a kinship with him because of that disability, but don't. Really...don't. He's no role model for you, and you should go out of your way to be NOTHING like him in any way.
That 100 day lock-in of his? It's NOT the sort of thing done by an adult with a job who wants to be taken seriously. Bob Pellonishould be living in a supervised group home....that's how disabled he is.
You'll notice it varies year to year, so if you check out the numbers for Texas in the bottom tabble....they've had some VERY bad years. They're doing better than they did in the past, you're right on that.
And I do have an inherent bias. While my bias isn't quite as bad as this: http://fuckthesouth.com/
I do believe the south's been bringing the rest of the country down practically since the founding of the country. The north has had to drag the south along kicking and screaming into each new century, it's getting rather tiresome. And the South considers itself "better" and "more real american", and is full of braggadocio that the actual numbers don't support.
And now we got neo-conservative neo-confederate wannabes lobbying up north and saying how Illinois or Iowa needs to basically turn themselves into Alabama or Mississippi clones with "right-to-work" and other anti-union measures and defunding social services and infrastructure improvements to "compete"
So yes, I loathe the "Southernization" of American politics. The South is the last place one should take socio-economic cues from. And yes I loathed the nomination of Bill Clinton during the "We have to nominate a conservative southern democrat to compete with the South-centric Republicans" period.
Then would you agree with most of my essay "Consoles are easy"?
Mostly yes.
And is there anything you'd add?
Don't forget the configuration/maintenance/upgrade issues of maintaining a gaming ready Windows machine. It isn't just finite money, it's finite time as well.
Then you buy a PlayStation 4 for most games, Wii U for Wii U exclusives, and Xbox One for Xbox One exclusives, and the total bill is on the order of $1100.
That's "if" you have any interest in those other exclusives. I personally don't.
How much does a gaming PC cost?
A reasonably good mid-range gamer build that you won't have to upgrade right away? Oh about 1200 -1500 dollars. You can pay less, of course, say 700 -800 for a budget build, but you'll have to upgrade that one sooner, and it won't be quite as good as a PS4.
This is Massachusetts doing what it does best - looking to rake in some tax money.
It's one of the reasons that if you look at the census data, Massachusetts comes out looking good. unlike say Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, etc etc
Massachusetts isn't a net burden on the US like those states are. Massachusetts pays it's own way and more than that it's a better place to live.
Massachusets blows other states away in actual census data. Education, economy, median income, poverty rates, teen pregnancy.
And it isn't dependent on federal dollars, unlike other places. The reason for that is that Massachusetts isn't trying to race to the bottom with the South.
Or you can move to Texas like the best and brightest are currently doing.
Texas is a shithole dependant on Federal dollars. Sure, businesses love a place that lets them do whatever they want at the expense of the actual workers and populace. But it's a race to the bottom that even Texas can't win.
Why should I repost data that even a cursory google search can find? Besides, any dumb bunny knows that population density drops off outside of metro-areas in the US, but that in Korea the population is more concentrated.
instead you chose to be lazy
The lazy person was the one who didn't google. Why should I be the "Let Me Google That For You" guy?
you must be a millennial, I see that behavior everyday.
Yeah yeah, complain again about the Millenials, that's some axe you got against them, buddy. However I am not one of them, I was born in '67.
Unless your PC is seriously weak sauce you could simply slap a GPU in it and play games just fine,
I run Linux on my PC, I would rather not run Windows. I also had a PS3, PS2 and PSone before it, though I don't own any any Sony TV/Stereo equipment. I also prefer analog movement to WASD. Playing games on that PS4 is "Easy Button Easy", no muss, no fuss. "It Just Works"
hell I got customers with Phenom II X3s and X4s that have no trouble playing the latest games. Today you can buy GPUs in the $180 range that curbstomp both the XB1 and PS4 in the purty dept,
I have a Phenom X4 in it, and a GT640, but to curbstomp that PS4 would require a GT970 or greater (which is more than $180). All I know is that War Thunder runs better on the PS4 than it does on the PC (I do have the Linux version installed), the controls are a non-issue since War Thunder PS4 supports the same control methods the PC version does.
I don't want to have to pay $180 (or more)...just for a video card. I want to just buy a box and not worry about upgrades for years and know that most every game that says PS4 on the label will run fairly well (with a few notable exceptions from some exceptionally lazy developers).
I also think we shouldn't be throwing new hardware at games willy nilly. "Fixed" hardware encourages developers to at least try to do proper optimization rather than being lazy numbskulls.
I'm a console gamer at heart, I really don't think highly of PC gamers at all. When I'm being uncharitable I sometimes say things like "PC gamers are a bunch of overly entitled pirates who spend hundreds of dollars/euros on a new video card and then complain about high game prices so they go pirate everything or play a single map in a single game for 10 years. Perhaps if they spent less money on hardware they'd have more money for games"
I have a finite amount of fun money, every dollar I spend on hardware is one less I can spend on an actual game.
he doesn't need to provide a citation because it's all in the census data, you can look up the population density of New York, Chicago, or LA and compare them to Seoul. Not only that, but in the US population density drops quickly, but in Korea it stays high
*-But as far as Pre-Orders? I thought Aliens: Colonial Marines and Watch Dogs would have killed that practice, after all now we can't even trust what we see with our own eyes as it might all be mocked up bullshit.
Well I've pre-ordered a few things. most recently Diablo on the PS3 (and later on the PS4). But in that case I didn't pre-order until I had watched one of the PAX 2013 videos showing someone actually playing the game and showing menus and whatnot as he was playing: I was a big fan of Diablo on the PSone too.
I can confirm Tepples statement. Late SNES games cost more than PSone games. 59 vs 49. Nintendo was less quick to discount games, it was common to see a "players choice" labeled title at full price, while Greatest HIts PSone titles were using 19.99.
I'm also old enough to remember full price atari 2600 titles at $40. So when whippersnappers complain about paying $59 for the MASSIVE amount of content in unmodded Skyrim, it gets my dander up. I'd shout the kids off my lawn but my lumbago and rheumatiz are actin up.
In the Super NES era, you likely had to share a monitor with other members of the family who wanted to watch broadcast or cable television.
Multiple TV households were fairly common by 1991, so sharing was less common than you think it was.
Because you got only about an hour per day with the TV, those same 10 to 12 hours stretched over several days.
Or work, dinner, household chores, etc etc.
Besides, it was common to repeat those 10 to 12 hours for a better overall score.
Indeed. Or better overall time, like with Metroid and Super Metroid. Heck, if you're reasonably good, you can beat Metroid in an hour and a half without any "glitching" or other tricks. It's possible to beat Super Metroid in under 3 hours though I think I only got down to 3 hours and a half.
In other words, cheat codes. How fast can you make it through the main quest WITHOUT using console commands? It's a hell of a lot longer than 10-12 hours.
By that logic, the government should be taxing businesses at 75% because, hey, without their infrastructure, property rights, and policing, where would that business be?
Top marginal tax rate was over 90 percent at one time. So actually, they did. Business tax rates were higher too. Was one of the greatest growth periods of American history, because the government spent that money on infrastructure. a LOT of infrastructure.
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4 MB Embedded DRAM video memory bandwidth at 48 gigabytes per second
PS2 main RAM is 32MB of RAMBUS RAM.
You know how some PC centric developers complained about the small caches on the PS2? Well the PS2 is not a PC, who needs huge cache when you have bandwidth to burn..
http://arstechnica.com/feature...
http://archive.arstechnica.com...
The PS3 also has massive bandwidth. The PS4 is more conventional from a PC devs perspective but also uses GDDR5 as main RAM. So yes, the PS2, PS3, PS4 can zip data around inside very quickly.
But, yes, those lost e-mails really are not like that.
Dude, people lose/delete e-mail by accident ALL THE TIME, no conspiracy or ulterior motives involved. It's one of those things that can happen to anyone.
Whatever you might think of Lt-Colonel Norton
His NAME is North.
that business was not for personal gain.
Not directly, but doing what your bosses want can be percieved as personal gain. And destroying evidence, which he did, was most certainly for personal gain. And he has certainly turned his criminal and treasonous acts into a career as a right-wing pundit...for personal gain.
And you may not realize this but Breitbart is not an unbiased source. Neither is IJReview, it's not "Independent" if it's founded and run by Republicans and has Republican biases.
Duude, you are talking to a Ukrainian expat :-)
Then you might want to listen more and spout off less about American politics, tovarysh.
just because you moved to the US (probably to make more money than you could back in the batÊkivshchyna) doesn't mean you have to turn into an Ayn Rand (whose real name is Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum) clone. What is it with ex-russians/ukrainians turning into selfish-asshole right-wing/libertarian zealots once they emigrate. Even Yakov Smirnoff has a bit of that.
Hey, those lost e-mails are not like a member of the military country under an arms embargo where americans had been held hostage for over 400 days to fund a bunch of drug dealing terrorists with the approval of rogue members of the executive branch against the direct order of congress signed into law by the very person who later broke it...which is technically high treason.
Losing e-mails is penny ante stuff compared to the shit that goes down in Eastern Europe, Russia and the BRIC in general. We put people in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for the bribery and corruption that is just "expected" and goes on there.
Ah the good ol` days where you could have "which window manager do you want" as an option in the installer rather than as a completely separate distribution.
It would still be the day if !@#$^& distro maintainers would have made the "everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" full DVD releases the standard instead of the silly tiny CD and 1.4GB DVD "Live" releases.
Here we go with the "help the middle class" again.
By definition the middle class can AFFORD things, the poor and lower class need help MORE than the middle-class does.
Yes the middle class is seeing it's status erode, but the poor and lower-class are having it WORSE.
Why wouldn't real-time stats on what people on the internet are talking about be worth some major buckage?
http://msti.files.wordpress.co...
You just blew my mind. I was one of those thinking why twitter was valued so high, what kind of value is in "poop tweets" or "breakfast tweets", but it's also "I saw this ad, or a friend told me about this product" It's like instant market research.
For someone whose game preferences are not dominated by PS4 exclusives or PC exclusives, how does this build compare technically to the PS4?
It doesn't. It's probably midway between a PS3 and PS4. Its like my computer, the base configuration was no match for the PS3, upgraded it's better but no match for the PS4.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr...
I first added in a GT220, and eventually upgraded the thing to a quad core 2.8GHz Phenom II, 4GB of RAM (it's the max it can handle) and a GT640 rev2.
Basically, it can play Fallout 3 slightly better than the PS3 (main difference is resolution/detail/lighting, VATS is slightly smoother on the PS3 and sound is slightly better on the PS3), but can't play War Thunder as well as the PS4. Now if I was to put a GT970 in it, then it would be somewhat more competitive with the PS4....but that alone is over $300....and I have a PS4. All my PC needs to do is handle my generic computing tasks, and Second Life. (which is pretty much the ONLY reason I have a GT640 in it). If it wasn't for SL, I could make do with less, in fact I probably wouldn't have upgraded the CPU, power supply and GPU.
Not only that, but you can buy a Playstation TV for what is it, $75 now? With that you get access to a bunch of PROVEN PSone, PSP and Vita games better than most of the F2P monetized crap on Android, access to Playstation Now AND you can stream from a PS4.
Would the console makers be as open to indies as they are today if OUYA had never shipped?
They were reasonably open to indies BEFORE Ouya shipped, though they are more so today.
This provision caused problems for Robert Pelloni's company when he wanted to bring Bob's Game to Nintendo DS because the company was operating out of an office in Pelloni's home.
Bob Pelloni's company was just HIM. Aint no way Nintendo was going to give him a license or dev kit when he was basically every stereotype of a "wanna be game developer with SERIOUS Aspergers" His disability was just that severe. Now you may feel a kinship with him because of that disability, but don't. Really...don't. He's no role model for you, and you should go out of your way to be NOTHING like him in any way.
That 100 day lock-in of his? It's NOT the sort of thing done by an adult with a job who wants to be taken seriously. Bob Pellonishould be living in a supervised group home....that's how disabled he is.
You'll notice it varies year to year, so if you check out the numbers for Texas in the bottom tabble ....they've had some VERY bad years. They're doing better than they did in the past, you're right on that.
And I do have an inherent bias. While my bias isn't quite as bad as this: http://fuckthesouth.com/
I do believe the south's been bringing the rest of the country down practically since the founding of the country. The north has had to drag the south along kicking and screaming into each new century, it's getting rather tiresome. And the South considers itself "better" and "more real american", and is full of braggadocio that the actual numbers don't support.
And now we got neo-conservative neo-confederate wannabes lobbying up north and saying how Illinois or Iowa needs to basically turn themselves into Alabama or Mississippi clones with "right-to-work" and other anti-union measures and defunding social services and infrastructure improvements to "compete"
So yes, I loathe the "Southernization" of American politics. The South is the last place one should take socio-economic cues from. And yes I loathed the nomination of Bill Clinton during the "We have to nominate a conservative southern democrat to compete with the South-centric Republicans" period.
Then would you agree with most of my essay "Consoles are easy"?
Mostly yes.
And is there anything you'd add?
Don't forget the configuration/maintenance/upgrade issues of maintaining a gaming ready Windows machine. It isn't just finite money, it's finite time as well.
Then you buy a PlayStation 4 for most games, Wii U for Wii U exclusives, and Xbox One for Xbox One exclusives, and the total bill is on the order of $1100.
That's "if" you have any interest in those other exclusives. I personally don't.
How much does a gaming PC cost?
A reasonably good mid-range gamer build that you won't have to upgrade right away? Oh about 1200 -1500 dollars. You can pay less, of course, say 700 -800 for a budget build, but you'll have to upgrade that one sooner, and it won't be quite as good as a PS4.
This is Massachusetts doing what it does best - looking to rake in some tax money.
It's one of the reasons that if you look at the census data, Massachusetts comes out looking good. unlike say Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, etc etc
Massachusetts isn't a net burden on the US like those states are. Massachusetts pays it's own way and more than that it's a better place to live.
Massachusets blows other states away in actual census data. Education, economy, median income, poverty rates, teen pregnancy.
And it isn't dependent on federal dollars, unlike other places. The reason for that is that Massachusetts isn't trying to race to the bottom with the South.
Or you can move to Texas like the best and brightest are currently doing.
Texas is a shithole dependant on Federal dollars. Sure, businesses love a place that lets them do whatever they want at the expense of the actual workers and populace. But it's a race to the bottom that even Texas can't win.
Get good weather
100 degrees in summer?
AND good government.
Wannabe theocrats?
I'm tired of assholes just "saying it is so", provide data or GTFO
You can research things yourself, can't you?
until then I stand with my assessment, that the USA has shitty internet
It does, but one of the many reasons it does is how our population is distributed.
Comcast is a bunch of greedy termites that should be dismantled the same way ATT was previously.
Probably, but AT&T isn't really dismantled any more, is it.
Why should I repost data that even a cursory google search can find? Besides, any dumb bunny knows that population density drops off outside of metro-areas in the US, but that in Korea the population is more concentrated.
instead you chose to be lazy
The lazy person was the one who didn't google. Why should I be the "Let Me Google That For You" guy?
you must be a millennial, I see that behavior everyday.
Yeah yeah, complain again about the Millenials, that's some axe you got against them, buddy. However I am not one of them, I was born in '67.
Unless your PC is seriously weak sauce you could simply slap a GPU in it and play games just fine,
I run Linux on my PC, I would rather not run Windows. I also had a PS3, PS2 and PSone before it, though I don't own any any Sony TV/Stereo equipment. I also prefer analog movement to WASD. Playing games on that PS4 is "Easy Button Easy", no muss, no fuss. "It Just Works"
hell I got customers with Phenom II X3s and X4s that have no trouble playing the latest games. Today you can buy GPUs in the $180 range that curbstomp both the XB1 and PS4 in the purty dept,
I have a Phenom X4 in it, and a GT640, but to curbstomp that PS4 would require a GT970 or greater (which is more than $180). All I know is that War Thunder runs better on the PS4 than it does on the PC (I do have the Linux version installed), the controls are a non-issue since War Thunder PS4 supports the same control methods the PC version does.
I don't want to have to pay $180 (or more)...just for a video card. I want to just buy a box and not worry about upgrades for years and know that most every game that says PS4 on the label will run fairly well (with a few notable exceptions from some exceptionally lazy developers).
I also think we shouldn't be throwing new hardware at games willy nilly. "Fixed" hardware encourages developers to at least try to do proper optimization rather than being lazy numbskulls.
I'm a console gamer at heart, I really don't think highly of PC gamers at all. When I'm being uncharitable I sometimes say things like "PC gamers are a bunch of overly entitled pirates who spend hundreds of dollars/euros on a new video card and then complain about high game prices so they go pirate everything or play a single map in a single game for 10 years. Perhaps if they spent less money on hardware they'd have more money for games"
I have a finite amount of fun money, every dollar I spend on hardware is one less I can spend on an actual game.
he doesn't need to provide a citation because it's all in the census data, you can look up the population density of New York, Chicago, or LA and compare them to Seoul. Not only that, but in the US population density drops quickly, but in Korea it stays high
Or the scenery/terrain discs for FS II back in '83!
*-But as far as Pre-Orders? I thought Aliens: Colonial Marines and Watch Dogs would have killed that practice, after all now we can't even trust what we see with our own eyes as it might all be mocked up bullshit.
Well I've pre-ordered a few things. most recently Diablo on the PS3 (and later on the PS4). But in that case I didn't pre-order until I had watched one of the PAX 2013 videos showing someone actually playing the game and showing menus and whatnot as he was playing: I was a big fan of Diablo on the PSone too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
With the PS4 version, I had the PS3 version as the "demo".
I'm tempted to pre-order TESO on the PS4. In that case I was able to watch live play of PS4 players playing the Beta.
I can confirm Tepples statement. Late SNES games cost more than PSone games. 59 vs 49. Nintendo was less quick to discount games, it was common to see a "players choice" labeled title at full price, while Greatest HIts PSone titles were using 19.99.
I'm also old enough to remember full price atari 2600 titles at $40. So when whippersnappers complain about paying $59 for the MASSIVE amount of content in unmodded Skyrim, it gets my dander up. I'd shout the kids off my lawn but my lumbago and rheumatiz are actin up.
In the Super NES era, you likely had to share a monitor with other members of the family who wanted to watch broadcast or cable television.
Multiple TV households were fairly common by 1991, so sharing was less common than you think it was.
Because you got only about an hour per day with the TV, those same 10 to 12 hours stretched over several days.
Or work, dinner, household chores, etc etc.
Besides, it was common to repeat those 10 to 12 hours for a better overall score.
Indeed. Or better overall time, like with Metroid and Super Metroid. Heck, if you're reasonably good, you can beat Metroid in an hour and a half without any "glitching" or other tricks. It's possible to beat Super Metroid in under 3 hours though I think I only got down to 3 hours and a half.
In other words, cheat codes. How fast can you make it through the main quest WITHOUT using console commands? It's a hell of a lot longer than 10-12 hours.
By that logic, the government should be taxing businesses at 75% because, hey, without their infrastructure, property rights, and policing, where would that business be?
Top marginal tax rate was over 90 percent at one time. So actually, they did. Business tax rates were higher too. Was one of the greatest growth periods of American history, because the government spent that money on infrastructure. a LOT of infrastructure.
Most of the criticism of Islam from guys like you is basically:
"All muslim's are terrorists" ranting. That is not productive or accurate.
If you said "Hey, Islam needs to go through it's own Reformation", then the ones you deride as "SJW's" would agree with you.
We are more likely to get moderate and progressive muslims to work with us if we do the latter, not the former.