I remember when it was first announced I thought it was going to be kick ass until I read it and found that it was somewhere between a lame Omni (which isn't saying much) and a geeky Maxim.
Pop culture's attempt at try to make technology seem hip... great.
Meanwhile all the screaming fanbois they have on stock really kills any chance for progressive writing.
There's no way to archive the messages is there?
Is there a way to catalog the information into a searchable index?
How can you "forward" an im to another person or group of people? Can you thread the information into a cohesive timeline?
And a more important question...
If all of this functionality was put into an IM client would it still be IM or would we just start calling it eMail?
This isn't much unlike the "death" of the PDA. The PDA isn't dying, it's migrating. The current common form of the PDA makes it a target for getting both bigger and smaller. In the case of it getting smaller we turn it into the smartphone. When it gets larger it's just another laptop/tablet. I find the people who scoff at stuff like PDAs are the people who wonder where new technology comes from because they don't see it for what it was in the past.
Not unlike the station wagon becoming the SUV. (That's right, SUV drivers, you're actually driving the old grocery getter with a new body and a lift kit... and Jeep is laughing all the way to the bank.)
Aren't the Darwin Awards normally filled with facts that can't be verified and scientific inconsistencies?
I'm not looking for a reason of why someone would do something stupid but it seems that just about half of the crap that normally gets credited to the Darwin Awards turns out to fall somewhere between technically impossible to incidents with no credible evidence.
Or is this just people using the name "Darwin Awards" in association with any urban legend that involves vast quantities of idiocy?
I actually live about 5 miles from Wagman. I use to be a AAAP member a few years ago but had gotten out of astronomy for a while and now I'm looking to get back into it again. In all likeliness I will rejoin.
I normally use the term "they" on slashdot unless I know the poster first hand. User names on slashdot and sexual orientation are not normally linked since most people don't use their real name. And to be very honest I normally don't pay attention to the poster's name.
This kind of PC backlash crap that makes being PC overbearing and hard for the average person to understand.
Wow, a story that doesn't involve the **AA, bashing MS or being "censored" by the government? A story that actually involves geekdom beyond Star Wars? I'm impressed.
Even the tin foil hat types will be at ease with this.
BTW: I noted that the poster mentioned that they are from Ohio. I'm from Pittsburgh myself. Has anyone here gone to Cherry Springs for their star parties? It's only a few hours away and I hear it's fantastic because of a lack of light pollution. I'd be interested in hearing from others who have been there and how they felt about the area.
At the same time MS shouldn't have to be held up to the "standards" of a critic if the critic does a shoddy job of installing the OS.
As for the home theater comment... don't count on that being true. Do you really think there isn't heavy comps in the movie industry? If you don't believe it you need to wipe the crust from your eyes.
While not dealing with "computers" by our common conception the movie does deal with the technology of the times accurately and how this technology was exploited (as in used, not "hacked"). It's a good film if you haven't seen it.
the company is promising 2-GB mailboxes in Exchange 2007 rather than the piffling 50-MB mailboxes most workplaces have now.
It can already do this. MS is suggesting that companies increase the limits put on users to avoid risky (and potentially illegal) mail dumping to a GMail account.
Slashdot: Now with more FUD!
Aside from this there is also the option of personal folders using Outlook. Much more secure than GMail or any other 3rd party mail servers.
Not knowing the exact incident you're talking about I think the article does a somewhat shoddy job of describing what exactly is legal.
IANAL but my take on this is that if there is a search warrant on your PC for child pr0n that I would not have to be served a warrant as well if I sent you the files in question and that these same files that are being used against you as evidence would also be evidence that could be used against me as the sender.
Furthermore I'm reading it as if I had child pr0n in my GMail account a warrant could be served against Google to get evidence from my GMail account without having to serve a warrant to me. This seems to me that they are basically saying that the mail itself is the property of GMail and not mine. This brings up the question of; can I refuse to honor their request to see my e-mail if it's handled on a third party server (Google in the case of GMail) since I do not technically have ownership of this mail? Do I even have the ability to show them this e-mail since the warrant would only cover my own property?
I don't think there is any real question of legality in my first scenario under today's law but the second one may be more questionable under current law.
Again, IANAL and most of this should be taken as a question more than an answer as to what is currently legal and illegal involving e-mail seizure.
On the very day of 9/11, reporters were already asking what rights would we be willing to give up in order to feel safe? My answer? None. Not a single one. If the agencies that we had in place at the time had done their jobs, the trade center buildings would never have been hit.
And how exactly didn't they do their job that they could have found this needle in the haystack? Remarks like this reek of the armchair quarterback mentality of how "If I were in charge this would have never happened". As they say, hindsight is 20-20.
Home land security.... you know, Germany had one of those once.. it was called the SS.
You care to elaborate on how the DoHS is like the SS? We had the FBI, the BATF and the Secret Service long before we had the DoHS. With their advent I haven't noticed anyone missing from the civilian population, I haven't seen the death camps, I haven't been randomly approached and asked to see my papers by anyone from the DoHS... I fail to see how you think these are one and the same.
If anything the BATF under the Reno Reich was much more like the SS; while trying to "serve a warrant" they went in with guns blazing down on civilians. Show me where Bush has had this done in his administration.
What was once illegal wire tapping is now, according to the president, legal and justifiable. Why? Because he said so. Our elected ruling body cannot even get details on the extent that surveillance has been taking place. And he took an oath to uphold the constitution?
I agree, he does need to be held accountable for this. But Bush is far from the first president to go about something that is unconstitutional and get away with it. Don't act like this is something new, it's insulting to see people try to act ignorant to prove their point.
So now I ask you, what kind of country are we living in? People here have been saying "1984", and I personally believe that is the way that we are heading.
I doubt this highly. Bush had chances to further degrade the constitution that would have been supported by Democrats and yet he didn't. If he really was going for a 1984 styled society he could have done more.
We live in a country where big business dictates how we live. It dictates government policy. It obviously dictates the flow of information to the American people.
Oh, and the American consumer has not control over this? How can you expect better when businesses like MaoMart are devastating the American job pool and yet they're prospering by leaps and bounds? This isn't because they're somehow in with some secret society along with the Bush's and the Free Masons, its' because the American consumer is being a stooge about things. Companies do not get money and power by some omniscient decree, they get it from the consumer public. As far as the flow of information... do you think anyone who's truly interested in this is still going through their local TV news? People who aren't getting this information are not very likely to care in any case. Had this been 20 years ago I would be more apt to agree with you but today there's nothing to stop a person from getting the news they want. And as much as people bellyache about losing their rights I still don't see internet censorship. We're not the new China, not by a long shot.
Our country is going down a socialistic crap hole, and until the American people stand up and say "ENOUGH!!" it will continue it's downward spiral.
What does a loss of rights have to do with socialism? It's statements like this that makes it hard for me to take a lot of things people say on slashdot seriously. socialism != fascism. That's never been the case. Just because the best known socialist state in history was a fascist state doesn't mean they all are. This is the kind of ignorance that makes Americans look bad.
As far as saying "Enough"? I'm still an adamant believer that this can only really be done via third party political forces. I know we heard the ch
And what country are you from that is so free and enlightened? I just love how foreigners feel free to take cheap shots at the US but never talk about where they're from.
As for civil liberties? Both sides of popular American politics are a threat to my civil rights.
My dream is that both republicans and democrats will condemn these attempts
My dream is that the American public wakes up so that we don't have to wait for Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb to do anything. With the two parties in control there is no real competition in politics and it's killing us from all sides.
Don't think that either the Democrats or Republicans have the market cornered on common sense. They'll both prove you dead wrong.
Absolutely. These are what I call the "comic book geeks" (no offense to nerds into comics at all). They buy tons of shirts from Jinx and leave back issues of 2600 around for others to see. Just ask them to code Hello World in any language or ask them to set up a home network and they freeze in fear.
Unfortunately my brother is raising one of these guys. He's a 15 year old who thinks "Einstein rocks" but ask him anything about physics... oh, the blank expression that will cross his face. He also thinks he's a computer wizard but somehow has a problem with getting MS Office to install on a PC. Never mind the concept of seeking out any kind of google support. He just gives up and claims that someone else caused the problem.
As you can imagine it's a real fun time when he comes around asking questions. It wouldn't be so bad if he'd just listen to the answer instead of trying to get me to just do it for him. I've already told him that if he's going to have the attitude of being somehow good at this that he's going to have to sink or swim. Maybe it's harsh for a 15 year old but he's not going to get anything out of having someone else do all the work.
Sadly, there are tons of poseurs where I work. They see "the IT guy" strolling along and they all want to know what is going down and most offer suggestions that are way off base. There's a ton of wannabes out there, without the resources to be what it is that they want to be they normally turn to pop culture to give themselves an identity.
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I will say, IMHO, that Wired is a big let down.
I remember when it was first announced I thought it was going to be kick ass until I read it and found that it was somewhere between a lame Omni (which isn't saying much) and a geeky Maxim.
Pop culture's attempt at try to make technology seem hip... great.
Meanwhile all the screaming fanbois they have on stock really kills any chance for progressive writing.
Yawn...
There's no way to archive the messages is there?
Is there a way to catalog the information into a searchable index?
How can you "forward" an im to another person or group of people? Can you thread the information into a cohesive timeline?
And a more important question...
If all of this functionality was put into an IM client would it still be IM or would we just start calling it eMail?
This isn't much unlike the "death" of the PDA. The PDA isn't dying, it's migrating. The current common form of the PDA makes it a target for getting both bigger and smaller. In the case of it getting smaller we turn it into the smartphone. When it gets larger it's just another laptop/tablet. I find the people who scoff at stuff like PDAs are the people who wonder where new technology comes from because they don't see it for what it was in the past.
Not unlike the station wagon becoming the SUV. (That's right, SUV drivers, you're actually driving the old grocery getter with a new body and a lift kit... and Jeep is laughing all the way to the bank.)
Aren't the Darwin Awards normally filled with facts that can't be verified and scientific inconsistencies?
I'm not looking for a reason of why someone would do something stupid but it seems that just about half of the crap that normally gets credited to the Darwin Awards turns out to fall somewhere between technically impossible to incidents with no credible evidence.
Or is this just people using the name "Darwin Awards" in association with any urban legend that involves vast quantities of idiocy?
We had unseasonably cold weather here in Pittsburgh in September and October. Should we start calling it "the ice age of 2006"?
Don't tell the unwitting fools! I need them to further the cause.
Scientists say it is the largest event of its kind in 30 years and point their fingers at climate change as a major contributing factor.
And here I just thought the melting point of ice was going down.
Thanks for the info.
I actually live about 5 miles from Wagman. I use to be a AAAP member a few years ago but had gotten out of astronomy for a while and now I'm looking to get back into it again. In all likeliness I will rejoin.
Talk about being uptight.
I normally use the term "they" on slashdot unless I know the poster first hand. User names on slashdot and sexual orientation are not normally linked since most people don't use their real name. And to be very honest I normally don't pay attention to the poster's name.
This kind of PC backlash crap that makes being PC overbearing and hard for the average person to understand.
Good luck getting your neighbors to turn off their "security" lights.
Well, now that I got my Red Rider 200-shot lever action air rifle that won't be as hard as it was last summer.
Wow, a story that doesn't involve the **AA, bashing MS or being "censored" by the government? A story that actually involves geekdom beyond Star Wars? I'm impressed.
Even the tin foil hat types will be at ease with this.
BTW: I noted that the poster mentioned that they are from Ohio. I'm from Pittsburgh myself. Has anyone here gone to Cherry Springs for their star parties? It's only a few hours away and I hear it's fantastic because of a lack of light pollution. I'd be interested in hearing from others who have been there and how they felt about the area.
At the same time MS shouldn't have to be held up to the "standards" of a critic if the critic does a shoddy job of installing the OS.
As for the home theater comment... don't count on that being true. Do you really think there isn't heavy comps in the movie industry? If you don't believe it you need to wipe the crust from your eyes.
In other "news":
The movie industry sends out DVD copies of films for film ciritcs.
The music industry sends out CDs to music critics.
Most industries send out materials for reviews. They call it "promos"... be sure to look it up.
I hate to bust your bubble but I just got my A380 delivered yesterday. It's sweet.
While not dealing with "computers" by our common conception the movie does deal with the technology of the times accurately and how this technology was exploited (as in used, not "hacked"). It's a good film if you haven't seen it.
Trend Micro reported that Vista zero-days are being sold at underground hacker sites for $50,000.
I'm just wondering who would buy these at such a price. What is the real value of an exploit?
the company is promising 2-GB mailboxes in Exchange 2007 rather than the piffling 50-MB mailboxes most workplaces have now.
It can already do this. MS is suggesting that companies increase the limits put on users to avoid risky (and potentially illegal) mail dumping to a GMail account.
Slashdot: Now with more FUD!
Aside from this there is also the option of personal folders using Outlook. Much more secure than GMail or any other 3rd party mail servers.
Not knowing the exact incident you're talking about I think the article does a somewhat shoddy job of describing what exactly is legal.
IANAL but my take on this is that if there is a search warrant on your PC for child pr0n that I would not have to be served a warrant as well if I sent you the files in question and that these same files that are being used against you as evidence would also be evidence that could be used against me as the sender.
Furthermore I'm reading it as if I had child pr0n in my GMail account a warrant could be served against Google to get evidence from my GMail account without having to serve a warrant to me. This seems to me that they are basically saying that the mail itself is the property of GMail and not mine. This brings up the question of; can I refuse to honor their request to see my e-mail if it's handled on a third party server (Google in the case of GMail) since I do not technically have ownership of this mail? Do I even have the ability to show them this e-mail since the warrant would only cover my own property?
I don't think there is any real question of legality in my first scenario under today's law but the second one may be more questionable under current law.
Again, IANAL and most of this should be taken as a question more than an answer as to what is currently legal and illegal involving e-mail seizure.
I am not going to be nine again so I know I won't go see it.
That never stopped Lucas.
On the very day of 9/11, reporters were already asking what rights would we be willing to give up in order to feel safe? My answer? None. Not a single one. If the agencies that we had in place at the time had done their jobs, the trade center buildings would never have been hit.
And how exactly didn't they do their job that they could have found this needle in the haystack? Remarks like this reek of the armchair quarterback mentality of how "If I were in charge this would have never happened". As they say, hindsight is 20-20.
Home land security.... you know, Germany had one of those once.. it was called the SS.
You care to elaborate on how the DoHS is like the SS? We had the FBI, the BATF and the Secret Service long before we had the DoHS. With their advent I haven't noticed anyone missing from the civilian population, I haven't seen the death camps, I haven't been randomly approached and asked to see my papers by anyone from the DoHS... I fail to see how you think these are one and the same.
If anything the BATF under the Reno Reich was much more like the SS; while trying to "serve a warrant" they went in with guns blazing down on civilians. Show me where Bush has had this done in his administration.
What was once illegal wire tapping is now, according to the president, legal and justifiable. Why? Because he said so. Our elected ruling body cannot even get details on the extent that surveillance has been taking place. And he took an oath to uphold the constitution?
I agree, he does need to be held accountable for this. But Bush is far from the first president to go about something that is unconstitutional and get away with it. Don't act like this is something new, it's insulting to see people try to act ignorant to prove their point.
So now I ask you, what kind of country are we living in? People here have been saying "1984", and I personally believe that is the way that we are heading.
I doubt this highly. Bush had chances to further degrade the constitution that would have been supported by Democrats and yet he didn't. If he really was going for a 1984 styled society he could have done more.
We live in a country where big business dictates how we live. It dictates government policy. It obviously dictates the flow of information to the American people.
Oh, and the American consumer has not control over this? How can you expect better when businesses like MaoMart are devastating the American job pool and yet they're prospering by leaps and bounds? This isn't because they're somehow in with some secret society along with the Bush's and the Free Masons, its' because the American consumer is being a stooge about things. Companies do not get money and power by some omniscient decree, they get it from the consumer public. As far as the flow of information... do you think anyone who's truly interested in this is still going through their local TV news? People who aren't getting this information are not very likely to care in any case. Had this been 20 years ago I would be more apt to agree with you but today there's nothing to stop a person from getting the news they want. And as much as people bellyache about losing their rights I still don't see internet censorship. We're not the new China, not by a long shot.
Our country is going down a socialistic crap hole, and until the American people stand up and say "ENOUGH!!" it will continue it's downward spiral.
What does a loss of rights have to do with socialism? It's statements like this that makes it hard for me to take a lot of things people say on slashdot seriously. socialism != fascism. That's never been the case. Just because the best known socialist state in history was a fascist state doesn't mean they all are. This is the kind of ignorance that makes Americans look bad.
As far as saying "Enough"? I'm still an adamant believer that this can only really be done via third party political forces. I know we heard the ch
I ment voters and not parties.
I meant both.
And what country are you from that is so free and enlightened? I just love how foreigners feel free to take cheap shots at the US but never talk about where they're from.
As for civil liberties? Both sides of popular American politics are a threat to my civil rights.
My dream is that both republicans and democrats will condemn these attempts
My dream is that the American public wakes up so that we don't have to wait for Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb to do anything. With the two parties in control there is no real competition in politics and it's killing us from all sides.
Don't think that either the Democrats or Republicans have the market cornered on common sense. They'll both prove you dead wrong.
It's all Booooooring. Yes even Neil Diamond.
Dude, you are so off Neil Diamond's Christmas card list after a remark like that. Just pray he doesn't come rolling up to your house with his crew.
I've seen it before. It's not pretty. ND on the 1-8-7 gat tip, boooyyyy!
Absolutely. These are what I call the "comic book geeks" (no offense to nerds into comics at all). They buy tons of shirts from Jinx and leave back issues of 2600 around for others to see. Just ask them to code Hello World in any language or ask them to set up a home network and they freeze in fear.
Unfortunately my brother is raising one of these guys. He's a 15 year old who thinks "Einstein rocks" but ask him anything about physics... oh, the blank expression that will cross his face. He also thinks he's a computer wizard but somehow has a problem with getting MS Office to install on a PC. Never mind the concept of seeking out any kind of google support. He just gives up and claims that someone else caused the problem.
As you can imagine it's a real fun time when he comes around asking questions. It wouldn't be so bad if he'd just listen to the answer instead of trying to get me to just do it for him. I've already told him that if he's going to have the attitude of being somehow good at this that he's going to have to sink or swim. Maybe it's harsh for a 15 year old but he's not going to get anything out of having someone else do all the work.
who the fuck wants to emulate the nerd image.
Sadly, there are tons of poseurs where I work. They see "the IT guy" strolling along and they all want to know what is going down and most offer suggestions that are way off base. There's a ton of wannabes out there, without the resources to be what it is that they want to be they normally turn to pop culture to give themselves an identity.