Yes, because all women dream of churning butter and all men are dying to chop logs all day. I'm having palpitations just thinking of what I'm missing.
You are actually supporting my argument here. What do you need to make axes? Answer: A technology known as metalurgy. The adaption of early forms of technology forced people to do back-breaking work just to survive. For 99% of human evolution most of the forms of technology that we rely on today were absent.
Well, if you want the average death rate to hover in the teens, then that's fine for you.
What are your sources of information?
There is evidence emerging that the adaption of farming based societies actually caused life expectancy to plummet. It is only in the last 100 years that life expectancies have returned to what they once were in hunter-gatherer societies ~20,000 years go (factoring out infant mortality.)
Personally, I enjoy the fact that technology has successfully quadrupled the human lifespan.
Yes but only after life-expectancy was reduced by other technologies in the first place.
The amount of improvement as of late (oh, say the last half millennium) has been positively amazing, adding as much as 50 years to the average lifespan. The most mind-blowing thing is it doesn't seem to be stopping! We've even conquered Diabetes. How far away can Cancer be? I'm sure soon we won't even need to bother with the common cold!
All of these diseases are the result of technology. Diabetes is caused by a diet that is far different from that of our hunter gatherer ancestors.
Cancer: many of the known carcinogens were totally absent from the human environment 20,000 years ago. Many cold's are derivied from diseases that were once only found in animals that were herded in ancient times. Close proximity of humans to these animals allowed many of these diseases to jump the speces boundary. Furthermore it is the over-crowded conditions enabled by technology that allow all epidemics to occur in the first place.
But like I say, if you want to live without technology, be my guest. I'm not worried because I'll live long enough to watch your great grandchildren die (although that's quite the sad thing for you).
If this was a feasible thing to do I would do it. Unfortuneatly this is not feasible. For starters you need a band of about 30 people to be self-sufficient. Additionally these people need a certain set of knowledge and skills that have largely been lost to antiquity. You need about 100 square miles of fertile land to have a sustained life as a hunter-gatherer for more than what we need today. How much would that cost in New York State? Most of us cannot afford to live *without* technology any more.
We need to stop being so stupid and start realizing what technology has given us. We need to focus on how amazing it is that people have gone from killing themselves because they have the plague to commiting suicide over something so small and insignificant like getting a B grade. Better yet, we should encourage those people considering commiting suicide over such an insignificant thing as marks to appreciate the fact that they didn't have to chase, kill, and skin their supper.
I doubt the real reasons behind suicides are insignificant things like getting a B grade. I am sure the real reasons are related to my arguements above. Isn't it ironic that it was only the nobility of the 18th century and Roman times that were the only ones that had the privelidge, resources and the inclination to chase and hunt animals as a recreational activity. Look how popular fishing is today despite that fact that if you really want to eat fish then you can easily buy fish from a fish shop.
Um, excuse me but the people I'm decended from, the Sami (Lapplanders), have been inhabiting those areas for at least since 400 A.D.
1600 years is no where near enough time for humans to evolve an adaptation for living harmoniously under such variable lighting conditions. Such an adaption would require at least hundreds of thousands of years to develop, if it was possible at all.
Nor have your cousins evolved to survive such cold conditions. It is only their application of clothing technology that allows them to survive under those condtions. It is only the invention of technologies such as the needle ond sewn clothing (about 20,000 years ago) that have allowed people the inhabit such sub-arctic regions.
The countries of Denmark and Japan are located at quite high lattitudes. Of course suicide rates have a multiplicity of causes but it seems clear to me that being exposed to the variable light/dark cycles does have a clear deletarious effect on human well being.
The article (did I say RTFA?) mentions higher rates of breast cancer in women who work the night shift - they don't get a regular dose of darkness that their bodies expect.
Right, it seems that the more we tamper with the natural environment, the we more make people less healthier and happier.
It is not only lighting but there are other numerous other technologies that have undesirable side-effects on the lives of people.
We need to stop being so arrogant about applying technological solutions to problems (problems which in many cases are caused by technology in the first place) and start to live more in accordance with the natural human condition and the natural environmental conditions that all people lived in once upon a time.
One of these days, we're going to look at ourselves, our families, our friends and neighbors, and realize that all of us have various synthetic bits and other bits that are genetically engineered, and that we're all living longer, happier, healthier lives as a result
Bullshit.
I have 2 grandmothers that are still alive. One is 105 years old and the other is 98 years old. Their longevity is solely due to their healthy life styles. That is basic things like good nutrition, low stress, caring family and friends.
If everyone had these basics then they would need your stinkin, genetic engineering, and cyborg technology.
he still has problems fitting in now that he is trying to hold a stable job and find love in his life.
So maybe he would be better off without the implant . Maybe he would have fit in better and found love within the deaf community?
I don't mean to sound callous but, I am opposed to cyborg technology. I want us to stay human. I want us a sustainable way of life and remain human at the same time.
This is one reason why we as a society need to find ways to get rid of this need for greed and wealth and money in general. Otherwise things just keep running into the ground.
Youn have been watching too many star trek episodes, haven't you? Rememeber "star trek" is just science fiction. The future will not be like that.
The article: http://www.nature.com/genomics/human/watson-crick/
states that the structure repeats after 34 A
it also states:
"The distance of a phosphorus atom from the fibre axis is 10 A."
Thus the diameter of the fibre is 20 A.
20/34 ~ 0.5882
phi = 0.6180
which is about a 3% difference.
This "coincidence" could be associated with dna's "success" as a molecule.
Question:
Is a contractor that is working on a piece of software (that is GPLed but owned by the government) make a copy of that software and take it home with him, without authorization?
Can the contractor redistribute that source code?
Jesus never said "Believe in me or you will burn in hell forever".
It was the power hungry officials of the early christian church that propagated that myth.
In particular, I would like to see remains of the ancestors of Australopithecenes and Ardopithecenes which would support the evolution of modern chimpanzees and modern humans from a common ancestor.
Ultimately all living things, mushrooms, you, me, the pine tree, etc, have a common ancestor, if you go back far enough.
lack of rich diet as found in agricultural societies results in poor nutrition
Actually archeological evidence from early agricultural societies indicates that the diet of the early farmers was not very nutritious at all, due largely to lack of variation and ignorance oft the importance of a varied diet.
The health and life expectancies of the early farmer was significantly less than their hunter/gatherer counterparts.
population density was another prime contributing factor
You have hit the nail on the head here.
Civilisation's didn't develop becuase it was a better way to live. Population density and the desire to extract more protien form a given area of land drove the establishment of the first farming settlements.
Once more complex socities developed they were able to conquer the less complex societies thru force of numbers and superior weponry.
Good point.
Christianity claims that if you don't believe in Jesus then you will burn in hell forever.
Many in ancient times thought that if this might possibly be true then becoming a christian might be safer bet.
This is how christianity caught on.
When you are dead you are dead and that is all that there is to it.
There is no heaven and there is no afterlife. There is no God.
Humanity is the result of a slow and gradual process of evolution from simpler life forms.
Just deal with it.
Australia has been one of Asia's pioneers in telecom deregulation as well as in the adoption of new technology.
Since when did Australia become part of Asia?
Australia is not part of Asia!
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If you're dissecting it this much, you're sort of missing the entire point of this.
What is the point then? (Apart from being a cynical money making exercise.)
Why not use higher-fidelity equipment, and make a recording available for download afterwards?
No, it would be much easier to make a shitload of money using mobile phones. All you need to do is charge a high per minute rate.
My CEO said he expects me to give my heart and soul for the company. Given that he is Indian, i am begining to wonder about what he really meant.
This idea has been around for ages here in Australia (at least 20 years). It never was adopted to my knowledge.
Yes, because all women dream of churning butter and all men are dying to chop logs all day. I'm having palpitations just thinking of what I'm missing.
You are actually supporting my argument here. What do you need to make axes? Answer: A technology known as metalurgy. The adaption of early forms of technology forced people to do back-breaking work just to survive. For 99% of human evolution most of the forms of technology that we rely on today were absent.
Well, if you want the average death rate to hover in the teens, then that's fine for you.
What are your sources of information? There is evidence emerging that the adaption of farming based societies actually caused life expectancy to plummet. It is only in the last 100 years that life expectancies have returned to what they once were in hunter-gatherer societies ~20,000 years go (factoring out infant mortality.)
Personally, I enjoy the fact that technology has successfully quadrupled the human lifespan.
Yes but only after life-expectancy was reduced by other technologies in the first place.
The amount of improvement as of late (oh, say the last half millennium) has been positively amazing, adding as much as 50 years to the average lifespan. The most mind-blowing thing is it doesn't seem to be stopping! We've even conquered Diabetes. How far away can Cancer be? I'm sure soon we won't even need to bother with the common cold!
All of these diseases are the result of technology. Diabetes is caused by a diet that is far different from that of our hunter gatherer ancestors.
Cancer: many of the known carcinogens were totally absent from the human environment 20,000 years ago. Many cold's are derivied from diseases that were once only found in animals that were herded in ancient times. Close proximity of humans to these animals allowed many of these diseases to jump the speces boundary. Furthermore it is the over-crowded conditions enabled by technology that allow all epidemics to occur in the first place.
But like I say, if you want to live without technology, be my guest. I'm not worried because I'll live long enough to watch your great grandchildren die (although that's quite the sad thing for you).
If this was a feasible thing to do I would do it. Unfortuneatly this is not feasible. For starters you need a band of about 30 people to be self-sufficient. Additionally these people need a certain set of knowledge and skills that have largely been lost to antiquity. You need about 100 square miles of fertile land to have a sustained life as a hunter-gatherer for more than what we need today. How much would that cost in New York State? Most of us cannot afford to live *without* technology any more.
We need to stop being so stupid and start realizing what technology has given us. We need to focus on how amazing it is that people have gone from killing themselves because they have the plague to commiting suicide over something so small and insignificant like getting a B grade. Better yet, we should encourage those people considering commiting suicide over such an insignificant thing as marks to appreciate the fact that they didn't have to chase, kill, and skin their supper.
I doubt the real reasons behind suicides are insignificant things like getting a B grade. I am sure the real reasons are related to my arguements above. Isn't it ironic that it was only the nobility of the 18th century and Roman times that were the only ones that had the privelidge, resources and the inclination to chase and hunt animals as a recreational activity. Look how popular fishing is today despite that fact that if you really want to eat fish then you can easily buy fish from a fish shop.
Um, excuse me but the people I'm decended from, the Sami (Lapplanders), have been inhabiting those areas for at least since 400 A.D.
1600 years is no where near enough time for humans to evolve an adaptation for living harmoniously under such variable lighting conditions. Such an adaption would require at least hundreds of thousands of years to develop, if it was possible at all.
Nor have your cousins evolved to survive such cold conditions. It is only their application of clothing technology that allows them to survive under those condtions. It is only the invention of technologies such as the needle ond sewn clothing (about 20,000 years ago) that have allowed people the inhabit such sub-arctic regions.
The countries of Denmark and Japan are located at quite high lattitudes. Of course suicide rates have a multiplicity of causes but it seems clear to me that being exposed to the variable light/dark cycles does have a clear deletarious effect on human well being.
The article (did I say RTFA?) mentions higher rates of breast cancer in women who work the night shift - they don't get a regular dose of darkness that their bodies expect.
Right, it seems that the more we tamper with the natural environment, the we more make people less healthier and happier.
It is not only lighting but there are other numerous other technologies that have undesirable side-effects on the lives of people.
We need to stop being so arrogant about applying technological solutions to problems (problems which in many cases are caused by technology in the first place) and start to live more in accordance with the natural human condition and the natural environmental conditions that all people lived in once upon a time.
We are saying that you _cannot_ use it. We will prevent you from destroying humanity. We will not allow a monstrous human-machine lifeform to emerge.
Correction:
If everyone had these basics then they would _not_ need your stinkin, genetic engineering, and cyborg technology.
One of these days, we're going to look at ourselves, our families, our friends and neighbors, and realize that all of us have various synthetic bits and other bits that are genetically engineered, and that we're all living longer, happier, healthier lives as a result
Bullshit.
I have 2 grandmothers that are still alive. One is 105 years old and the other is 98 years old. Their longevity is solely due to their healthy life styles. That is basic things like good nutrition, low stress, caring family and friends.
If everyone had these basics then they would need your stinkin, genetic engineering, and cyborg technology.
he still has problems fitting in now that he is trying to hold a stable job and find love in his life.
So maybe he would be better off without the implant . Maybe he would have fit in better and found love within the deaf community?
I don't mean to sound callous but, I am opposed to cyborg technology. I want us to stay human. I want us a sustainable way of life and remain human at the same time.
This is one reason why we as a society need to find ways to get rid of this need for greed and wealth and money in general. Otherwise things just keep running into the ground.
Youn have been watching too many star trek episodes, haven't you? Rememeber "star trek" is just science fiction. The future will not be like that.
so THAT's why poor people are barred from the good classes in school.
yes that's excatly what I am saying. If you can't see that happening then you are as blind as a bat.
are you just making up shit?
No, I am not making it up.
School is not for teaching you what you need or want to know. It is for reinforcing class barriers and producing compliant and obedient workers.
Maybe his peers bully/oppress him.
The article: http://www.nature.com/genomics/human/watson-crick/
states that the structure repeats after 34 A
it also states:
"The distance of a phosphorus atom from the fibre axis is 10 A."
Thus the diameter of the fibre is 20 A.
20/34 ~ 0.5882
phi = 0.6180
which is about a 3% difference.
This "coincidence" could be associated with dna's "success" as a molecule.
Question: Is a contractor that is working on a piece of software (that is GPLed but owned by the government) make a copy of that software and take it home with him, without authorization? Can the contractor redistribute that source code?
Where did you get your information from?
Jesus never said "Believe in me or you will burn in hell forever".
It was the power hungry officials of the early christian church that propagated that myth.
In particular, I would like to see remains of the ancestors of Australopithecenes and Ardopithecenes which would support the evolution of modern chimpanzees and modern humans from a common ancestor.
Ultimately all living things, mushrooms, you, me, the pine tree, etc, have a common ancestor, if you go back far enough.
lack of rich diet as found in agricultural societies results in poor nutrition
Actually archeological evidence from early agricultural societies indicates that the diet of the early farmers was not very nutritious at all, due largely to lack of variation and ignorance oft the importance of a varied diet. The health and life expectancies of the early farmer was significantly less than their hunter/gatherer counterparts.
population density was another prime contributing factor
You have hit the nail on the head here. Civilisation's didn't develop becuase it was a better way to live. Population density and the desire to extract more protien form a given area of land drove the establishment of the first farming settlements.
Once more complex socities developed they were able to conquer the less complex societies thru force of numbers and superior weponry.
Good point.
Christianity claims that if you don't believe in Jesus then you will burn in hell forever.
Many in ancient times thought that if this might possibly be true then becoming a christian might be safer bet.
This is how christianity caught on.
When you are dead you are dead and that is all that there is to it.
There is no heaven and there is no afterlife. There is no God.
Humanity is the result of a slow and gradual process of evolution from simpler life forms.
Just deal with it.
Australia has been one of Asia's pioneers in telecom deregulation as well as in the adoption of new technology.
Since when did Australia become part of Asia? Australia is not part of Asia!