Ok, but the criminals don't know who is armed and who isn't *already*, yet people are still mugged everyday. Oh, wait, you're right, there's absolutely NO crime in Detroit =). (It's a joke, laugh!)
I'll concede the point about your wallet, but who's to say that they won't take it themselves?
And yes, I assumed the mugger has a gun. You might want to do the same depending on the situation.
Yep, and it is. Lot's of people screamed bloody murder when the CCW laws were changed in Michigan. They all said the usual FUD (more kids are going to be killed, gun violence is going to skyrocket, etc.). I don't have any figures, and I'm too lazy to check, but I can tell you that I've not seen a difference in gun violence one way or the other since the laws have been changed. I'm sure a spin could be put on it either way, but again, you're right- why not have the option?
That's why you don't shoot a lowlife to stop him from stealing your laptop. You shoot the lowlife to stop him from killing you.
And how are you going to do that? If his gun is already out, it's over- you lose. If you pull your gun out before he makes his move, you're the bad guy.
If someone who has a gun wants to kill you (for reasons unbeknownst to you at the time) you will be killed. If a person with a gun wants to take your laptop, he will probably take your laptop and then leave. My point is, after he turns to run, you can't shoot him- your life is no longer in danger.
You are correct, I confused your point, and I apologize.
I'm actually for gun ownership specifically for the reasons that you stated. I just don't want to be the person having to deter someone else from irresponsibly using *their* firearm, but that's just me.
Again, in today's litigious society, I would be doubly afraid to pull a piece. As was posted in another thread, you're almost better off killing the guy than having to battle him in court for "mental anguish". Especially over a laptop! It's not my place to speak for you or anyone else, but in my mind, it's just not worth it.
Short sighted eh? Yeah, well you explain to me how a *concealed* weapon deters anything. They can't see it! And if you are going to tell me that all you have to do is pull it out, you've never had a gun drawn on you before (yes, I have). It's not cool, and since the other person's gun is trained right on you, if you go for your gun, you're dead. And I have nothing against gun owenership. Own one if you want to, it doesn't bother me one way or the other.
So, Quickdraw Magraw, you take your chances. Me? I'd rather live to see tomorrow.
It's been said that you should never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. I'm not sure I would want to put up the legal fight to keep myself out of jail after shooting some lowlife for taking my laptop. And believe me, my entire life is linked to my laptop.
In Michigan (according to a poice officer friend of mine, you may roll your eyes now) you can only use deadly force if you feel that your life is in danger. You're going to have to prove that, and you might have a hard time if the other guy is dead.
Hey, it's up to each person to make their own decision, but in today's litigious society, I would err on the side of caution and not carry a gun. I've thought about going to get a CCW in the past (Michigan loosened the laws a few years ago) and decided not to do it. I'm just not sure that I could stop myself from shooting the person who is running off with my life.
What's a permit going to do? Oh, you mean get the permit so you can carry a concealed weapon. What the hell for? So you can wave it at them after they take your valuables?
So you know, you can't shoot someone just for taking your stuff. Well, maybe you can, but then you get to spend the rest of your life in jail for killing someone. How's *that* for losing your "valuables"?
They were talking about these mysterious lights floating over Phoenix, which are apparently a big mystery in the flake world.
I actually *saw* that event go down. I was on vacation from college, and went to visit my friends in Phoenix. We were driving along down some street when I saw something in the sky. My friend pulled over into a parking lot, and we watched whatever it was. Honestly, it looked like a bunch of flares attatched to parachutes. I didn't even think twice about it. About a year later (give or take a few months) I saw a video tape of "the event" on CNN. CNN! I called my friend and told him about it, and since then I too have watched in disgust as a collection of idiots try to explain what happened. I can tell you this: it wasn't aliens, and I think anyone who saw it would agree with me.
Are you retarded? Seriously, what's the problem here? *You* brought up one-buttoned mice. *You* implied that you were going to break my fingers. *You* suggested that I go home and kill myself. I am *replying* to you, and what you write. That's how this works. However, I'm going to stop because this clearly is going nowhere.
For what it's worth, I've said my piece about Apple's "deceptive" advertising; read my last post. Not clear? I'll repeat: I don't think it's deceptive. You do? Fine.
I currently live in Winter Park, Florida, but I'm moving back to Detroit soon. That's about all I'll say here, but I'm not going to give you the rest of my address unless you actually intend to show up. Then we can fight =)
Well, I actually agree with you, and thanks for finally getting to the point. Unfortunately, Apple has some kind of weird "following" and the common perception is that if you use a Mac, you are a Mac zealot. It's true that I like Macs, but they are not the only kind of computers I own. Honestly, if you are dumb enough to believe that the G5 is the "fastest, most powerful" computer on the planet, then you haven't done your homework. They are pretty damn fast though, and the extra horsepower is nice for the apps I use (pro sound stuff).
I don't, however, think that Apple was too far off base. It's marketing, and of course they are going to try to make their computer look the best. Advertisers do this kind of thing all the time, it's nothing new.
I don't use a one button mouse. I use a two-button mouse made by (shocker) Microsoft. If you would like to come over and try to break my fingers, you are more than welcome to try. Hell, I'll even give you my address. BTW it's probably not a good idea to threaten people over the internet.
Oh, and I'll get back to you on killing myself. Since we are bouncing ideas around, I have a suggestion for you: cut off your cock and flush it down the drain.
Weren't you supposed to go home and kill yourself?
No. Wait, you know, you're right. I should go kill myself. Anything is better than carrying on a conversation with a complete moron like you.
If you have problems backing up your (so-called) arguments, keep your trap shut. Maybe, if you try really hard, you will be able to sit at the grown-ups table someday. Probably not though. *sigh*
And if it's any testament to your computing ability - oh well never mind - the world of paste - is that your website - doesn't seem to be available at the moment.
Because my computer is sleeping, would you like me to wake it up? I made the site during some downtime just to prove (to myself) that I could.
Saying that Windows users are smarter than Apple users is a pretty broad statement, and impossible to prove. If that's a testament to your ability to use logic... nevermind.
And no, it doesn't matter how many computers I own, I was using it as an example to illustrate my point. Are we clear?
Also, please point out the part of your post that has anything to do with Apple's deceptive advertising. Basically, all you did was badmouth stupid people (which has nothing to do with anything.)
If we're talking about desktops here, not servers, what exactly does the average user crave all this speed for?
A very good question. I think the answer is easy to find when you consider that someone has been keeping spammers in business by actually buying pills to enlarge their penises.
This is America after all, isn't it? Of course we *need* the biggest, fastest, shiniest, whatever that's available (even if we don't need it).
On the other hand Microsoft users on the whole know a little more technically about their computers, and less about the applications they use. But they're less likely to fall prey to some deceptive statement about computer speed in a TV ad during the Super Bowl - they're more aware of the variables at work - but still not smart enough to reject the platform altogether for its shoddy architecture
So.... Windows users are the smartest idiots around?
Also, I would like to know where you get your information. I know plenty of Windows users who know next to nothing about their computers. I own four Macs, and I know a hell of a lot about them thank you very much.
Isn't the target audience for *all* PCs people who know nothing about computers. I don't know about you, but I cringe when I walk into a computer store (even the Apple Store) because the people selling them know little more than technical specs. This (I'm assuming) is designed to confuse Grandma into thinking the hardware is everything she wants and more.
How to legally obtain music for your iPod. Step Five: Sell all those CDs you just bought to another used CD shop.
See, the whole idea of making a backup is that only one copy will be in use at a time. As soon as you sell that CD, someone else could listen to at the same time as you, which now makes your copy illegal (since you no longer own the original).
Nice try though.
You email the virus to yourself, and check your email from a some rubes machine (charisma=social engineering). The virus is downloaded to his machine, and once activated, tries to access a blocked port, which is denied. Once he gets home, the virus reactivates and does it's thing.
I understand the whole "once you have physical access to a machine it's been compromised" argument, but I guess what I'm asking is: Who is responsible if you are smart enough to get by their defenses?
Again, I'm asking because I don't know, so please.... be gentle.
What if you wanted to email someone the virus (ala MyDoom) from one of these access points? You could spoof the mail server, and no one would be able to tell where it came from (exactly), correct?
Forgive my ignorance...
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Please forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't these kinds of WiFi access points be an ideal place to upload a virus or any other type of malicious code onto the internet? I mean, it would be almost untraceable, right? If so, it would seem that almost anyone could write the code/test it on their own machines, and then unleash it on the world from one of these points.
Unfortunately (for me), I have to agree with you. The Finder is pretty much what made the Mac a Mac, and it seems to be lacking in many ways. It's getting better, but IMO, this should have been Apple's *priority* from the get go.
As far as keeping windows in a consistent view: open the window you want to set, configure everything the way you want it, and then CLOSE it before doing anything else. When you reopen the window, everything should be as you left it. Intuitive? Not at all, but that's the way it goes.
I'm sure it's been said before, but maybe Apple should pay a little more attention to it's Mac users before it dives into the Windows world. Market share be damned! I want to use the GUI to manage my files!
Wow! It's about time. How long have we been waiting for this!
I'm going to be really pissed if it doesn't run on my 233 MHz Pentium II though. And does it *really* need 128 megs of RAM? Can't I skate by on 64? And $129? It should be free to anyone who bought a computer in the past three years.
Thanks! Say, does your OS have any sort of compatible spell check application?
Please keep in touch, and let me know when you guys finally stop gettting your machines repeatedly cracked by all those script kiddies out there! They say it's only Russian Roulette if you're Russian!
because if you're not developing software for NASA, there is NO REASON to use a fast computer. Those pesky end users who want to run OS X on the fastest currently available hardware should just climb back into their BMW's and drive back to Soho!
Out of curiosity, how many times a day do you post to Slashdot from your high priced UNIX workstation?
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Yeah? Well FUCK THAT!
Ha! I win.
Ok, but the criminals don't know who is armed and who isn't *already*, yet people are still mugged everyday. Oh, wait, you're right, there's absolutely NO crime in Detroit =). (It's a joke, laugh!)
I'll concede the point about your wallet, but who's to say that they won't take it themselves?
And yes, I assumed the mugger has a gun. You might want to do the same depending on the situation.
Still, the option would be nice.
Yep, and it is. Lot's of people screamed bloody murder when the CCW laws were changed in Michigan. They all said the usual FUD (more kids are going to be killed, gun violence is going to skyrocket, etc.). I don't have any figures, and I'm too lazy to check, but I can tell you that I've not seen a difference in gun violence one way or the other since the laws have been changed. I'm sure a spin could be put on it either way, but again, you're right- why not have the option?
That's why you don't shoot a lowlife to stop him from stealing your laptop. You shoot the lowlife to stop him from killing you.
And how are you going to do that? If his gun is already out, it's over- you lose. If you pull your gun out before he makes his move, you're the bad guy.
If someone who has a gun wants to kill you (for reasons unbeknownst to you at the time) you will be killed. If a person with a gun wants to take your laptop, he will probably take your laptop and then leave. My point is, after he turns to run, you can't shoot him- your life is no longer in danger.
You are correct, I confused your point, and I apologize.
I'm actually for gun ownership specifically for the reasons that you stated. I just don't want to be the person having to deter someone else from irresponsibly using *their* firearm, but that's just me.
Again, in today's litigious society, I would be doubly afraid to pull a piece. As was posted in another thread, you're almost better off killing the guy than having to battle him in court for "mental anguish". Especially over a laptop! It's not my place to speak for you or anyone else, but in my mind, it's just not worth it.
Short sighted eh? Yeah, well you explain to me how a *concealed* weapon deters anything. They can't see it! And if you are going to tell me that all you have to do is pull it out, you've never had a gun drawn on you before (yes, I have). It's not cool, and since the other person's gun is trained right on you, if you go for your gun, you're dead. And I have nothing against gun owenership. Own one if you want to, it doesn't bother me one way or the other.
So, Quickdraw Magraw, you take your chances. Me? I'd rather live to see tomorrow.
It's been said that you should never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. I'm not sure I would want to put up the legal fight to keep myself out of jail after shooting some lowlife for taking my laptop. And believe me, my entire life is linked to my laptop.
In Michigan (according to a poice officer friend of mine, you may roll your eyes now) you can only use deadly force if you feel that your life is in danger. You're going to have to prove that, and you might have a hard time if the other guy is dead.
Hey, it's up to each person to make their own decision, but in today's litigious society, I would err on the side of caution and not carry a gun. I've thought about going to get a CCW in the past (Michigan loosened the laws a few years ago) and decided not to do it. I'm just not sure that I could stop myself from shooting the person who is running off with my life.
What's a permit going to do? Oh, you mean get the permit so you can carry a concealed weapon. What the hell for? So you can wave it at them after they take your valuables?
So you know, you can't shoot someone just for taking your stuff. Well, maybe you can, but then you get to spend the rest of your life in jail for killing someone. How's *that* for losing your "valuables"?
They were talking about these mysterious lights floating over Phoenix, which are apparently a big mystery in the flake world.
I actually *saw* that event go down. I was on vacation from college, and went to visit my friends in Phoenix. We were driving along down some street when I saw something in the sky. My friend pulled over into a parking lot, and we watched whatever it was. Honestly, it looked like a bunch of flares attatched to parachutes. I didn't even think twice about it. About a year later (give or take a few months) I saw a video tape of "the event" on CNN. CNN! I called my friend and told him about it, and since then I too have watched in disgust as a collection of idiots try to explain what happened. I can tell you this: it wasn't aliens, and I think anyone who saw it would agree with me.
Are you retarded? Seriously, what's the problem here? *You* brought up one-buttoned mice. *You* implied that you were going to break my fingers. *You* suggested that I go home and kill myself. I am *replying* to you, and what you write. That's how this works. However, I'm going to stop because this clearly is going nowhere.
For what it's worth, I've said my piece about Apple's "deceptive" advertising; read my last post. Not clear? I'll repeat: I don't think it's deceptive. You do? Fine.
I currently live in Winter Park, Florida, but I'm moving back to Detroit soon. That's about all I'll say here, but I'm not going to give you the rest of my address unless you actually intend to show up. Then we can fight =)
That is all.
Well, I actually agree with you, and thanks for finally getting to the point. Unfortunately, Apple has some kind of weird "following" and the common perception is that if you use a Mac, you are a Mac zealot. It's true that I like Macs, but they are not the only kind of computers I own. Honestly, if you are dumb enough to believe that the G5 is the "fastest, most powerful" computer on the planet, then you haven't done your homework. They are pretty damn fast though, and the extra horsepower is nice for the apps I use (pro sound stuff).
I don't, however, think that Apple was too far off base. It's marketing, and of course they are going to try to make their computer look the best. Advertisers do this kind of thing all the time, it's nothing new.
I don't use a one button mouse. I use a two-button mouse made by (shocker) Microsoft. If you would like to come over and try to break my fingers, you are more than welcome to try. Hell, I'll even give you my address. BTW it's probably not a good idea to threaten people over the internet.
Oh, and I'll get back to you on killing myself. Since we are bouncing ideas around, I have a suggestion for you: cut off your cock and flush it down the drain.
Weren't you supposed to go home and kill yourself?
No. Wait, you know, you're right. I should go kill myself. Anything is better than carrying on a conversation with a complete moron like you.
If you have problems backing up your (so-called) arguments, keep your trap shut. Maybe, if you try really hard, you will be able to sit at the grown-ups table someday. Probably not though. *sigh*
And if it's any testament to your computing ability - oh well never mind - the world of paste - is that your website - doesn't seem to be available at the moment.
Because my computer is sleeping, would you like me to wake it up? I made the site during some downtime just to prove (to myself) that I could.
Saying that Windows users are smarter than Apple users is a pretty broad statement, and impossible to prove. If that's a testament to your ability to use logic... nevermind.
And no, it doesn't matter how many computers I own, I was using it as an example to illustrate my point. Are we clear?
Also, please point out the part of your post that has anything to do with Apple's deceptive advertising. Basically, all you did was badmouth stupid people (which has nothing to do with anything.)
If we're talking about desktops here, not servers, what exactly does the average user crave all this speed for?
A very good question. I think the answer is easy to find when you consider that someone has been keeping spammers in business by actually buying pills to enlarge their penises.
This is America after all, isn't it? Of course we *need* the biggest, fastest, shiniest, whatever that's available (even if we don't need it).
On the other hand Microsoft users on the whole know a little more technically about their computers, and less about the applications they use. But they're less likely to fall prey to some deceptive statement about computer speed in a TV ad during the Super Bowl - they're more aware of the variables at work - but still not smart enough to reject the platform altogether for its shoddy architecture
So.... Windows users are the smartest idiots around?
Also, I would like to know where you get your information. I know plenty of Windows users who know next to nothing about their computers. I own four Macs, and I know a hell of a lot about them thank you very much.
Isn't the target audience for *all* PCs people who know nothing about computers. I don't know about you, but I cringe when I walk into a computer store (even the Apple Store) because the people selling them know little more than technical specs. This (I'm assuming) is designed to confuse Grandma into thinking the hardware is everything she wants and more.
How to legally obtain music for your iPod.
Step Five: Sell all those CDs you just bought to another used CD shop.
See, the whole idea of making a backup is that only one copy will be in use at a time. As soon as you sell that CD, someone else could listen to at the same time as you, which now makes your copy illegal (since you no longer own the original).
Nice try though.
Ok, new scenario:
You email the virus to yourself, and check your email from a some rubes machine (charisma=social engineering). The virus is downloaded to his machine, and once activated, tries to access a blocked port, which is denied. Once he gets home, the virus reactivates and does it's thing.
I understand the whole "once you have physical access to a machine it's been compromised" argument, but I guess what I'm asking is: Who is responsible if you are smart enough to get by their defenses?
Again, I'm asking because I don't know, so please.... be gentle.
Well, I run OS X and Linux, but I digress.
What if you wanted to email someone the virus (ala MyDoom) from one of these access points? You could spoof the mail server, and no one would be able to tell where it came from (exactly), correct?
Please forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't these kinds of WiFi access points be an ideal place to upload a virus or any other type of malicious code onto the internet? I mean, it would be almost untraceable, right? If so, it would seem that almost anyone could write the code/test it on their own machines, and then unleash it on the world from one of these points.
"Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?"
Unfortunately (for me), I have to agree with you. The Finder is pretty much what made the Mac a Mac, and it seems to be lacking in many ways. It's getting better, but IMO, this should have been Apple's *priority* from the get go.
As far as keeping windows in a consistent view: open the window you want to set, configure everything the way you want it, and then CLOSE it before doing anything else. When you reopen the window, everything should be as you left it. Intuitive? Not at all, but that's the way it goes.
I'm sure it's been said before, but maybe Apple should pay a little more attention to it's Mac users before it dives into the Windows world. Market share be damned! I want to use the GUI to manage my files!
Wow! It's about time. How long have we been waiting for this!
I'm going to be really pissed if it doesn't run on my 233 MHz Pentium II though. And does it *really* need 128 megs of RAM? Can't I skate by on 64? And $129? It should be free to anyone who bought a computer in the past three years.
That's just my small percentage of an opinion.
No offense, but if you want to see EVERYTHING, browse at -1.
Problem solved.
Thanks! Say, does your OS have any sort of compatible spell check application?
Please keep in touch, and let me know when you guys finally stop gettting your machines repeatedly cracked by all those script kiddies out there! They say it's only Russian Roulette if you're Russian!
because if you're not developing software for NASA, there is NO REASON to use a fast computer. Those pesky end users who want to run OS X on the fastest currently available hardware should just climb back into their BMW's and drive back to Soho!
Out of curiosity, how many times a day do you post to Slashdot from your high priced UNIX workstation?