>Mars attacked us: Just leave off the "us:". and what do you have left? That's right, the headline. I think that's what they meant, they weren't trying to be revisionist. Good old ambiguous language eh?
Let's see what the USA was doing 20 years ago shall we. Iran-Contra anyone? That video with Rumsfeld being rather pally with someone called Saddam? Shall we go back further, to overthrowing the democratically elected government of Iran? Do you think maybe one or two people died because of that one?
What sort of world do you think we're going to see in the next few years, now that it's OK to attack a country because of something that they did 20 years ago, or because of something they *might* do in 5 or 10 years time. Do you really want to live in that world, because I sure as hell don't?
Oh, by the way, did ya check out the end of the article: A UN security council statement condemning Iraq's use of chemical weapons in the war was issued in 1986, but the US and other western governments continued supporting Baghdad militarily and politically into the closing stages of the war.
Looks like there was some interest in punishing Iraq way back then, but it wasn't in a certain country's own interest at the time!
>The Supreme Court still made the correct decision. What: "we know there's a problem with these votes, but we won't recount them because we can't work out how to"? Sure, sounds fair to me. I just hope your vote wasn't one of them, because if it was, you just lost everything that gives democracy its name.
>the judicial system has been pretty fair and removed from Govt politics. I beg your pardon, can anyone say "ahem, George Bush, cough cough, election, cough, 2000"!!! Totally removed, right. On which planet?
Eh? What do you mean? I've just paid my Au$699 for the next year's wheel licenses. That's per wheel mind. We're still haggling over the spare as I say that 'technically' I don't use it (not in the last year anyway), but he says it's still a part of the system and therefore I need to pay. Didn't you get your letter yet?
>No support from SuSE unless you really ARE upgrading Ah yes, that makes sense, and in fact I also just noticed that the support you do get is 60 days as opposed to 90 days. Right, well, I've ordered it, and even got a couple of the small geekos for the kids, nothing like getting them started early eh?
But can anybody tell me the difference between the full professional version and the upgrade? As far as I can make out from the website, the only difference is that with the upgrade you don't get the user manual.
Does it actually check during the install if you have a previous version? Hey, if it does that's fine with my, I have a full 7.3, I was just wondering though. I mean, if it doesn't, why doesn't everybody just get the upgrade version, or shouldn't I be saying that?
(I seem to remember pulling that trick with an edition of Delphi once, when someone helpfully informed me that the only difference between the upgrade and the full version was the box they came in!)
But Microsoft says the new feature is not designed to remove all traces of a file. "The message will still be in various places," says Mike Pryke-Smith, marketing manager"
AND
"It would not be that tough to erase all traces of an email on a user's computer," says Aviel Rubin a computer security researcher at New York University. "However, it would be much harder to erase all traces of a message on the intermediate servers."
> Torvalds' father was a card-carrying Communist who spent a year studying in Moscow when his son was about 5.
That's probably not actually so unusual, since Finland is right next door to Russia, and until the break up of the USSR was living very much in its shadow. Nothing to see here...
(Sorry, repost with better formatting, must remember to actually *look* at the preview next time)...
>to get his hosting and DNS cut off at the knees. Yeah right, for all of half a day while he sets up a new one.
>This means getting hold of a real person... >If more people would do this... Unfortunately, these two statements are contradictory. Most people can't be bothered.
Hey I'm not knocking you, just being realistic. It was great what your friend did, but it sounds like he must have been fairly computer savvy to sort it out. Most people aren't, and wouldn't know what to do about spam if it bit them on the ass, even if they *could* be bothered to do something!
>to get his hosting and DNS cut off at the knees.
Yeah right, for all of half a day while he sets up a new one.
>This means getting hold of a real person...
>If more people would do this...
Unfortunately, these two statements are contradictory. Most people can't be bothered.
Hey I'm not knocking you, just being realistic. It was great what your friend did, but it sounds like he must have been fairly computer savvy to sort it out. Most people aren't, and wouldn't know what to do about spam if it bit them on the ass, even if they *could* be bothered to do something!
>People will not agree to pay for something they previously had for free.
As an example to the contrary, I use a Bigfoot email address. It was free for about the first five years, then they started charging for it. I paid up, because it had become too useful to me.
I think people *will* pay for something they previously had for free if one of the following is true:
The service they now have would no longer be available otherwise (
The service would improve considerably
(There are probably more cases too.)
I'd say all the above would be true in this case. You probably won't get everybody paying for it sure, but I bet the majority would do.
'Ole Suse seems to be falling behind in the version wars here, anyone know when 9.0 is due out? Hopefully in time for the Xmas rush, so maybe any day now?
Well, I'm not so sure about the mind control thing, but In the UK, there seems to be very little evidence of any benefits of fluoridation despite numerous studies, due to the poor quality of the studies, and lack of any recent ones.
It's also interesting to note that the water companies in the UK only want to add it providing the goverment indemnifies them against any lawsuits that might result if it ever does get proven to be bad for people!
So I really don't think that was such a good analogy to use in the original article.
And remember, if you think it's hard for a stranger to get hold of your fingerprints, what do you think you leave behind when you use a fingerprint scanner?
Well we have Websense here too, and I could read it OK. I guess where you work you must have a lot of people interested in weird stuff right? And the US patent office would seem to fit nicely into the "Occult and Folklore" category!
START_RANT As a follow on, I have to say I really hate f***ing Websense. I get blocked by it several times a week, always on perfectly legit sites. It seems to have a word lookup feature that just does a string match, it doesn't even look for whole words, so for example, if the URL contains the word 'combustible', well that's obviously porn because it can find the word 'bust' in there. I pity people in England who live in Essex or Sussex and try to find local information!
In my view, if your workers aren't going to work, then they'll find something else to do anyway, whether it's surf the net, or run their second hand car business from the car park. It just goes way too far, as in the parent post's example. Another great example, we have a product that's supposed to be able to play MP3 CDs. Think I can find any information on MP3s on the net, not a chance! (On the other hand, I must admit that blocking the download of files ending in '.mp3' might actually be a good idea, I did once work at a place where our brand new Sun Stations all had their hard disks completely full within a couple of weeks, and it didn't take much detective work to find the reason why!) END_RANT
My experience with Websense at work has pretty much convinced me that I won't ever install filtering software on my kids' home PC. They just need to be, er whatever the web equivalent of streetwise is (webwise? netwise? wwwise? wwwwise?). (Anyhow, by the time they're interested in porn I fully expect them to have learnt how to get round anything I install so there'd be no point!)
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>Mars attacked us:
Just leave off the "us:". and what do you have left? That's right, the headline. I think that's what they meant, they weren't trying to be revisionist. Good old ambiguous language eh?
Let's see what the USA was doing 20 years ago shall we. Iran-Contra anyone? That video with Rumsfeld being rather pally with someone called Saddam? Shall we go back further, to overthrowing the democratically elected government of Iran? Do you think maybe one or two people died because of that one?
What sort of world do you think we're going to see in the next few years, now that it's OK to attack a country because of something that they did 20 years ago, or because of something they *might* do in 5 or 10 years time. Do you really want to live in that world, because I sure as hell don't?
Oh, by the way, did ya check out the end of the article: A UN security council statement condemning Iraq's use of chemical weapons in the war was issued in 1986, but the US and other western governments continued supporting Baghdad militarily and politically into the closing stages of the war.
Looks like there was some interest in punishing Iraq way back then, but it wasn't in a certain country's own interest at the time!
It looks like a used condom. What other kinds of "tests" were they doing in that wind tunnel?
>The Supreme Court still made the correct decision.
What: "we know there's a problem with these votes, but we won't recount them because we can't work out how to"? Sure, sounds fair to me. I just hope your vote wasn't one of them, because if it was, you just lost everything that gives democracy its name.
>the judicial system has been pretty fair and removed from Govt politics.
I beg your pardon, can anyone say "ahem, George Bush, cough cough, election, cough, 2000"!!!
Totally removed, right. On which planet?
Waddaya mean offtopic/troll?
Surely everyone knows that as the length of a slashdot thread increases, the probability of a windows bashing joke approaches 1.
I guess they don't make mods like they used to.
(And no that last sentence isn't a troll either, it's a goblin!)
The what?
I think you mean "Daleks"!
Hey dude, next time you're screwing wood, watch out for splinters...
This product may not be used by the result of it's own failure!
Eh? What do you mean? I've just paid my Au$699 for the next year's wheel licenses. That's per wheel mind. We're still haggling over the spare as I say that 'technically' I don't use it (not in the last year anyway), but he says it's still a part of the system and therefore I need to pay.
Didn't you get your letter yet?
>No support from SuSE unless you really ARE upgrading
Ah yes, that makes sense, and in fact I also just noticed that the support you do get is 60 days as opposed to 90 days.
Right, well, I've ordered it, and even got a couple of the small geekos for the kids, nothing like getting them started early eh?
Cheers.
Sounds great, and I'm about to order it.
But can anybody tell me the difference between the full professional version and the upgrade? As far as I can make out from the website, the only difference is that with the upgrade you don't get the user manual.
Does it actually check during the install if you have a previous version? Hey, if it does that's fine with my, I have a full 7.3, I was just wondering though. I mean, if it doesn't, why doesn't everybody just get the upgrade version, or shouldn't I be saying that?
(I seem to remember pulling that trick with an edition of Delphi once, when someone helpfully informed me that the only difference between the upgrade and the full version was the box they came in!)
What do you mean that's all, what about:
Putting a password on the document
Using PGP on the email
Putting the document on a network drive with restricted access intead of emailing it
Where I work we use all the above (and maybe more), I think current technology certainly does have one or two improvements on "confidential".
Oh yeah, I forgot, he's a marketroid, can't believe anything he says, never mind...
But Microsoft says the new feature is not designed to remove all traces of a file. "The message will still be in various places," says Mike Pryke-Smith, marketing manager"
AND
"It would not be that tough to erase all traces of an email on a user's computer," says Aviel Rubin a computer security researcher at New York University. "However, it would be much harder to erase all traces of a message on the intermediate servers."
Sadly, your faith seems to be misplaced.
> Torvalds' father was a card-carrying Communist who spent a year studying in Moscow when his son was about 5.
That's probably not actually so unusual, since Finland is right next door to Russia, and until the break up of the USSR was living very much in its shadow. Nothing to see here...
(Sorry, repost with better formatting, must remember to actually *look* at the preview next time)...
>to get his hosting and DNS cut off at the knees.
Yeah right, for all of half a day while he sets up a new one.
>This means getting hold of a real person...
>If more people would do this...
Unfortunately, these two statements are contradictory. Most people can't be bothered.
Hey I'm not knocking you, just being realistic. It was great what your friend did, but it sounds like he must have been fairly computer savvy to sort it out. Most people aren't, and wouldn't know what to do about spam if it bit them on the ass, even if they *could* be bothered to do something!
>to get his hosting and DNS cut off at the knees. Yeah right, for all of half a day while he sets up a new one. >This means getting hold of a real person... >If more people would do this... Unfortunately, these two statements are contradictory. Most people can't be bothered. Hey I'm not knocking you, just being realistic. It was great what your friend did, but it sounds like he must have been fairly computer savvy to sort it out. Most people aren't, and wouldn't know what to do about spam if it bit them on the ass, even if they *could* be bothered to do something!
As an example to the contrary, I use a Bigfoot email address. It was free for about the first five years, then they started charging for it. I paid up, because it had become too useful to me.
I think people *will* pay for something they previously had for free if one of the following is true:
The service they now have would no longer be available otherwise (
The service would improve considerably (There are probably more cases too.)
I'd say all the above would be true in this case. You probably won't get everybody paying for it sure, but I bet the majority would do.
Perhaps you'd explain to us exactly what international statute Iraq violated?
try Spacejobs! Good luck.
Hey mods this is only slightly offtopic OK!
'Ole Suse seems to be falling behind in the version wars here, anyone know when 9.0 is due out? Hopefully in time for the Xmas rush, so maybe any day now?
Also fluoride is definitely a poison and is classified as such unless its use is medicinal, its addition to common drinking water therefore violates the Human Rights of citizens of the EU.
It's also interesting to note that the water companies in the UK only want to add it providing the goverment indemnifies them against any lawsuits that might result if it ever does get proven to be bad for people!
So I really don't think that was such a good analogy to use in the original article.
And that's really not so hard to do!
And remember, if you think it's hard for a stranger to get hold of your fingerprints, what do you think you leave behind when you use a fingerprint scanner?
Well we have Websense here too, and I could read it OK. I guess where you work you must have a lot of people interested in weird stuff right? And the US patent office would seem to fit nicely into the "Occult and Folklore" category!
START_RANT
As a follow on, I have to say I really hate f***ing Websense. I get blocked by it several times a week, always on perfectly legit sites. It seems to have a word lookup feature that just does a string match, it doesn't even look for whole words, so for example, if the URL contains the word 'combustible', well that's obviously porn because it can find the word 'bust' in there. I pity people in England who live in Essex or Sussex and try to find local information!
In my view, if your workers aren't going to work, then they'll find something else to do anyway, whether it's surf the net, or run their second hand car business from the car park. It just goes way too far, as in the parent post's example. Another great example, we have a product that's supposed to be able to play MP3 CDs. Think I can find any information on MP3s on the net, not a chance!
(On the other hand, I must admit that blocking the download of files ending in '.mp3' might actually be a good idea, I did once work at a place where our brand new Sun Stations all had their hard disks completely full within a couple of weeks, and it didn't take much detective work to find the reason why!)
END_RANT
My experience with Websense at work has pretty much convinced me that I won't ever install filtering software on my kids' home PC. They just need to be, er whatever the web equivalent of streetwise is (webwise? netwise? wwwise? wwwwise?).
(Anyhow, by the time they're interested in porn I fully expect them to have learnt how to get round anything I install so there'd be no point!)
This is in the business plan, right before "No.2363 - Profit!"