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Mars Attacked, 65 Years Ago Today

Jodrell writes "Forget solar flares, and the upcoming Halloween festivities - tonight marks the 65th anniversary of the broadcast of Orson Welles' radioplay version on The War Of The Worlds."

294 comments

  1. Terrorists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Martian Government has determined that the people of Earth are harboring biological weapons. Prepare to be liberated.

    1. Re:Terrorists! by night_flyer · · Score: 4, Funny

      We'll hold 'em off with Slim Whitman!!!

      --


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      Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
    2. Re:Terrorists! by Ossadagowah · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speaking of terrorists, does anyone remember the old early 90's tv show "War of the Worlds"? In it, the aliens (who had been resurrected from the '53 invasion) were using all sorts of terrorist attacks against humans in attempt to purge the earth of humanity.

      Among the things they tried:

      Starting a nuclear war between the U.S. and the Soviet Union with their own homemade weapons.

      Poisoning major sources of food with biological weapons.

      Brewing illegal drugs to turn addicts into their willing slaves.

      and so on. It's even scarier today than it was back then.

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    3. Re:Terrorists! by sdmartin101 · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was a story to this effect on Broadcasting House (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/bh/) a few months ago. The Martians contended that the United States had weapons of mass destruction, was aiding terrorism, etc., and so they invaded. Turns out, their economy relied on methane gas as fuel, and in fact, the Martians were invading only to get control over American cows, or more precisely, one particular by-product. The story ended with a reporter pointing out, "It's well known that the United States is the galaxy's principle source of bullshit".

    4. Re:Terrorists! by ciphertext · · Score: 1

      That is a definite possibility, but at least it isn't crap from a "Mad Cow".

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    5. Re:Terrorists! by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      The Martian Government has determined that the people of Earth are harboring biological weapons. Prepare to be liberated.

      Please. There is no centralized "Martian" government, and please use the correct name, Barsoom. Everyone should remain calm. I have word from Captain Carter that everything is under control, and we have nothing to fear . . . except maybe from those *red* Barsoomians.

    6. Re:Terrorists! by TedTschopp · · Score: 1

      Man, I'm screwed, I've flu.... And now you are telling me I need to watch out becuase I might be on some martian terrorist watch list for harboring Biological Weapons? Can't a guy get a break?

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      Fantasy remains a human right; we make in our measure and in our derivative mode... -- JRR Tolkien
    7. Re:Terrorists! by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Respect other people's cultures, you fucker. Liquifying the dead so they can be fed to the living is an ancient British custom.

    8. Re:Terrorists! by fenix+down · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's some kinda shitty attempt to purge the earth of humanity.

      Alien #1: Hey, I thought of this great idea on how to DESTROY ALL HU-MANS!
      Alien #2: Yeah?
      Alien #1: Yeah! I know this Columbian guy from when I was in the joint, right, and...

      Brain the size of a planet and this is the best you come up with? No wonder you get smoked by fucking e-coli.

  2. Panic by Carnildo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what sort of panic would ensue if someone were to do a similar broadcast now?

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    "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
    1. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you know what happened on September 11, 2001.

    2. Re:Panic by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      You'd most likely be considered a terrorist.

    3. Re:Panic by frkiii · · Score: 2, Funny

      About the only effect that would have would be Democrats blaming Republicans for it, and Republicans blaming Democrats for it.

      And terrorists claiming it was God's way of punishing the infidels.

      Etc.

      Regards,

      Fredrick

    4. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None. Because it would be read by Hilary Duff and would be brought to you by Verizon Wirelss and GMC Trucks.

      Ok, that would cause some panic.

    5. Re:Panic by valjean78 · · Score: 1

      I'd bet on it. I mean a few years ago a couple of misfit deejays broadcast that Britney Spears was in a car accident or something and there was all kind of panic with that. People will be believe anything they hear on radio or the tele and what they read on the net.

    6. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I'd bet on it. I mean a few years ago a couple of misfit deejays broadcast that Britney Spears was in a car accident or something and there was all kind of panic with that.

      Yeah, next thing you'll be reading that James Dean was killed in a car crash.

      What nonsense; some people will believe anything.

    7. Re:Panic by EverDense · · Score: 1

      I wonder what sort of panic would ensue if someone were to do a similar broadcast now?

      If you broadcast it on FoxNews, I'm sure you'd catch quite a few people.

      As an Australian, I watch FoxNews for the comedy value.
      O'Reilly is much, much funnier than Letterman these days.

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    8. Re:Panic by John+Biggabooty · · Score: 1

      You do know that there actually was an invasion on that night. The radio play was just cover. I was in a movie all about it. Kudos to the first person who names that movie!

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    9. Re:Panic by Icaruso · · Score: 1

      If I'm not mistaken, something similar to Welles' radio broadcast of "WOTW" occurred in South America in either the late 40s or 50s. Same sort of response. A good number of folks believed the broadcasts and started panicking, etc.

    10. Re:Panic by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      The article lists two South American broadcasts. One lead to mass panic, the other lead to a riot that burned down the radio station, killing 15.

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      "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
    11. Re:Panic by Mwongozi · · Score: 1
      The BBC did a similar thing in 1992, but on TV. They broadcast a fake "live" documentary called Ghostwatch, which was supposed to be an hour-long live show partially presented from "The most haunted house in Britain" (A very ordinary house in a housing estate), and partially from a studio with interviews and phone-ins, etc.

      The house was supposedly haunted by a ghost called "Pipes", so called because it rattled the pipes a lot, and the show starts off exactly the way you'd expect a live documentary about a ghost to happen - nothing happens. But gradually more and more disturbing things happen, until one of the presenters is "killed' by the ghost, and many others end up posessed.

      The BBC used well-known presenters from other BBC "factual" type shows, and millions of people around the country completely failed to realise the show was fiction. There was uproar. Thousands of people complained, and the show was banned from being repeated, ever.

      The show is now available, however, on DVD.

    12. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These days it wouldn't work. Quite the opposite I'd say.
      I can imagine Jesus making his second coming and nobody believing it even with the facts staring them in the face.
      But hey that's just my idea.

    13. Re:Panic by SWTP_OS9 · · Score: 1

      There was a movie called Special Bultion or something about terrorst and a nucular device in Charlston SC. They had problems with showing it and woudl be a major panic if they evne showd it today.

    14. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PBS radio station in Gainesville, Florida, did a recreation of the Mercury Theatre radio play in the late 80's one Hallowe'en, IIRC. I taped it. I've also heard rebroadcasts of the original.

      The recreation was quite believable. It was faithful to the spirit of Welles' original, suitably modded for the time and place --- damn good theatre. I have no trouble with the thought that more than a few folks in the fish camps in north central Florida were out looking for Martians that night. No panic that I'm aware of, but this was a PBS station in a relatively rural college town.

      And as some other reply noted, many of us believe Dubya's Iraq fantasies, and they don't do nearly the job the Mercury Theatre (or WUFT's "Theatre of the Mind") did.

      Blessed Be,
      Mal the Elder

    15. Re:Panic by stef49 · · Score: 1

      But I am here! I am here! Listen To Me PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

    16. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The situation has now changed: instead of believing that a simulation is real, people now tend to believe that what is real is simulation. E.g., there are many who believe the moon landing was staged (the fact that in the official NASA photo there's a stage mic hanging down from the top doesn't help).

      Of course according to Baudrillard they're right to disbelieve. According to him simulacra is different from simulation in that instead of imitating the real, it merely covers up the fact that the real doesn't exist. (Which, as I'm sure countless others have already pointed out, is why the Matrix so gets Baudrillard wrong.)

    17. Re:Panic by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      I call bullshit on this one. It doesn't take 15 people to run a South American radio station, especially back in the 40's-50's. Chances are there were some knuckleheads that started the fire that caught themselves on fire, ran screaming into the building and caught the building on fire.

    18. Re:Panic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus H. Christ man, invest in some literacy!

      I've seen dyslexic Down's Syndrome kids with a stronger grasp of the english language.

      You'd think with the amount of reading most people do on the net, they'd fuckin' catch on eventually.

    19. Re:Panic by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 1
      Big difference between documentaries like Forgotten Silver or the one you mentioned and a live broadcast news "hoax" like War of the Worlds.

      The latter is simply not possible any more without some extreme cooperation between news networks -- who would believe the news story on Channel 1 when Channel 2 is running it's regularly scheduled programming. You might wonder for 5 minutes what is going on, but you'd pretty quickly "click" to the joke.

      A mockumentary (or hoax documentary) is easier because we don't expect other channels to cover it.

      Of course, it would be great if the networks could all come togethor to play one big joke like WotW on the viewers. I'd love to see thatg just to find out what the general public's reaction would be, infact, just to find out what my reaction would be. But it won't happen because it would just cause panic and other bad things to happen. There's no fun when people die.

      Of course, that doesn't mean you can't imagine what you would do if you turned on the TV in an hour to find that a fleet of UFO's has positioned itself over the capital of every country.

      It might happen one day, it just might happen.

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    20. Re:Panic by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Right, but remember 9/11? Some people NEVER switched from CNN. A goodly enough majority would never even realize what was happening because they're either addicted to Fox, NBC, or CNN. Some people only have ONE news source (because they're lazy).

    21. Re:Panic by CharlesClarkson · · Score: 1

      And terrorists claiming it was God's way of punishing the infidels.

      Seems you're getting terrorists and television eveangelists confused.

      On second thought, perhaps you're not!

      --

      Charles K. Clarkson
      Many people truly want to help. Unfortunately, many people truly suck at it.
    22. Re:Panic by frkiii · · Score: 1

      Read into it what you will. :)

      Regards,

      Fredrick

  3. Huh? by Nit+Picker · · Score: 1

    I thought Earth was attacked by Mars.

    1. Re:Huh? by DeadSea · · Score: 1

      Read it as "Mars Attacked Us, 65 Years Ago Today".

    2. Re:Huh? by netbornmusic · · Score: 1

      indeed you are right... The original story by Herbert Wells (Orson's father) is here ...

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    3. Re:Huh? by sdmartin101 · · Score: 2, Informative

      H.G. Wells was *not* Orson Welles' father. (If nothing else, notice the difference in the last names.) See http://www.bway.net/~nipper/biobirth.html.

    4. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, and you can download an MP3 of them conversing in 1940: http://www.unknown.nu/mercury/ (scroll to bottom)

    5. Re:Huh? by sdmartin101 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, and you can download an MP3 of them conversing in 1940: http://www.unknown.nu/mercury/ (scroll to bottom) No idea why this was modded down. (I've already posted to this thread, otherwise I'd mod it up.)

    6. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A difference in the spelling of the family name doesn't necessarily mean they aren't related.

      My grandfather and great-grandfather are both presumably related (father and son), and yet their last names are spelled differently. Blame it on a dumbass immigration ocifer.

      I'm sure other such things occur in the bureaucracy even where immigration isn't involved. For example, maybe a typo on a birth certificate. Besides, in this case, Orson was an actor. There have been instances where the screen actor's guild has forced an actor to change his name (by adding an oddball middle initial or changing the family name's spelling) because they don't allow two actors in the guild with the same name.

  4. Such a shame... by r_glen · · Score: 5, Funny

    They could have just checked Snopes

    1. Re:Such a shame... by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      Snopes doesn't have anything on alien invasions.

      --
      "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
    2. Re:Such a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Snopes doesn't have anything on alien invasions."

      Then it must be true!

  5. You know? by Pingular · · Score: 1

    When this was first broadcast on American radio, a lot of people thought it was realy. Just goes to show you how powerful and realistic some Dramas/Plays can be (especially classics).

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    1. Re:You know? by windows · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's because they only issued a warning saying it was fictional at the beginning and the end of it. There were no warnings while it was playing, so of course people thought it was real.

    2. Re:You know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When this was first broadcast on American radio, a lot of people thought it was real

      Really? Wow! Thanks for that insightful, thought-provoking comment. I bet you were the only one that knew that little tidbit.

    3. Re:You know? by Max+Malini · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I believe it was first broadcast on American radio on Sunday, October 30th just after 8pm EST. Interestingly, from the "It can't happen again" department, an adaptation of the show played in Quito, Ecuador in 1949 and caused riots. The radio station building was set on fire after citizens discovered it was a fraud. More recently, it cause problems in northen Portugal in 1988. For more details see this csicop page.

    4. Re:You know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumbass -- those rednecks were runnin' around in New Jersey woods with their shootin' irons lookin' fer GERM MANS!!! They just figured the ignorant newscasters got their facts screwed up.

    5. Re:You know? by rusty0101 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Something that contributed to this was the fact that most of the people who missed the beginning did so for the same reason that advertisers try (at times) to make their comercials entertaining.

      This night of the week was popular on the radio for a couple of shows on competing networks. People would listen to the begining of the program, which was nearly always entertaining, decide the next part was dull, and retune to another station.

      If you have not listened to the radio drama, there are a few segments where there is some so-so ballroom dance music being played, that apparently was just good enough that people decided to listen. This got interupted with what sounded at the time like a very reasonable public service anouncement that got them.

      Personally I think this would be the equivalent of tuning in to the latest episode on Survivor, deciding watching the first segment, deciding to see what else is on, see that a couple of well known stars are being interviewed, and seeing the interview be pre-empted by what appears to be a news story about the Golden Gate Bridge, Hoover Dam, and the George Washington Bridge's all being hit by simultaneous terrorist strikes. If your first move isn't to check CNN, or HNN to see if they are covering these stories, you might be forgiven for believing that you were seeing real events.

      -Rusty

      --
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    6. Re:You know? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, there was a disclaimer between the two acts. But the first act ran uninterrupted for a long time. The broadcast is one of the reasons why broadcasters have to self-identify at least every 15 minutes.

      Also, most people missed not only the disclaimer at the beginning, but also the opening monologue, tuning in at the fake weather report or later when people turned the dial away from Charlie McCarthy. It is the first documented incident of channel switching. Listeners were so gripped that they never switched back.

      And congrats for getting the date right. Many people mistakenly think the broadcast was October 31st, 1938. It was indeed October 30th, 1938.

      Also, 50 years ago, the George Pal movie The War of the Worlds opened in theaters.

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    7. Re:You know? by iantri · · Score: 1
      But come on, as scary as it is to think so, terrist attacks are a real possibility.

      Men from Mars? That's a different matter..

    8. Re:You know? by wawadave · · Score: 0

      Tterrorists from mars attack!not me.

    9. Re:You know? by cptgrudge · · Score: 1
      Well, as you will have noticed if you`ve ever employed sarcasm near an American, they just don't get it!

      I think sarcasm has more to do with the tone of your voice than anything else. We had a woman from Finland that came to work at my organization for a while, and sarcasm was lost on her too. Even if everybody speaks English (or any other language) fluently, differing accents coming from your nation of origin could mask the subtle tone of your voice and make it difficult to discern sarcasm. My opinion anyway. I'm probably wrong. :p

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    10. Re:You know? by Deadstick · · Score: 2, Funny

      In particular, I've been told that quite a few people were in the habit of listening to the opening of the Edgar Bergen & Charlie McCarthy show, during which they did a comedy dialogue shtick (with W.C. Fields occasionally dropping in), then switching over to Welles's show.

      And anyone who thinks the public would have to be pretty stupid to fall for the "alien invasion" should remember that this took place in a time when one of the most popular entertainment shows in the country was a ventriloquist performing on the radio.

      rj

    11. Re:You know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one would dare to make such a broadcast today.

      Just think of all the lawyers waiting to sue you afterwards for putting people under emotional stress, car accidents and so on.

    12. Re:You know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were no warnings while it was playing, so of course people thought it was real.

      False. There was one other announcement during the actual program indicating it was not real.

      How do I know for a fact this is true? My parents have a record (yes, record) of the entire broadcast. The recording takes up both sides.

    13. Re:You know? by Mac+Scientist · · Score: 1
      Actually, there was a disclaimer between the two acts.

      Exactly right. Also, people even tuned to other stations that weren't carrying the "news", and still didn't believe it was a show.

    14. Re:You know? by Gallowglass · · Score: 1

      I have to interject at this point that my deceased mother told me that she had heard the broadcast. She thought the people who panicked were nincompoops. "There was an advertisement for soap or something every few minutes! Did they really think that if there was a real invasion that the station would still be playing advertisements? Nobody panicked in Canada!" Then she shook her head and muttered something about Americans.

  6. I for one, welcome our new Martian Overlords by xtermin8 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    It just had to be said!

  7. Wowsers! by NiteTrip · · Score: 0

    http://macbros.dnsalias.com/

  8. Re:it happened again by sinucus · · Score: 1

    looks like I also need to learn how to spell... corrections here... wish there was an edit post button.

    I was just as afraid when Bush announced we were going to war with the "terrorist" as when people first heard that broadcast.

  9. Errm. by mihalis · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It would have been better expressed as "Earth Attacked by Mars, 65 years ago". Maybe I'm just picky.

    1. Re:Errm. by DenOfEarth · · Score: 1

      I don't think you were the only one confused...but maybe now that we're thinking of it we should attack mars

    2. Re:Errm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pointing out a grammatical mistake by Taco is like.... Christ, there's nothing quite like it, is there?

    3. Re:Errm. by pavon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and we still haven't gotten those buggers back! Tell your congressman that we must set the goal of Earth Attacking Mars by the 100 year aniversary, otherwise the terrorists have won!

      What they don't live there anymore? Then we must colonize the planet so the don't come back!

    4. Re:Errm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pointing out a grammatical mistake by Taco is like..

      ...asking him to stop sucking so much cock. He just won't listen.

  10. Mars Attacked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just thinking about Mars Attacks makes War of the Worlds seem Utopian.

  11. Re:News for Nerds by termos · · Score: 1

    No, but the 65th anniversary probably is ;-) .. sort of.

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  12. WOTW Audio by Pastor+Fluff · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can get the audio for the show here. Not the best fidelity, but still...

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    1. Re:WOTW Audio by morcheeba · · Score: 1

      Not the best fidelity, but still...

      You were wanting CD-quality? Or maybe cassette quality?

    2. Re:WOTW Audio by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      of course it's not the best fidelity, it was done 65 years ago.

    3. Re:WOTW Audio by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      You can get the audio for the show here.

      Yeah, if you want to pay for the download.

      I wonder when the copyright ran out on this.

    4. Re:WOTW Audio by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Erm, never. If you want audio that's fallen out of copyright, I think there are a few of those wax cylinder dealies around, but Mickey Mouse showed up a good bit before WOTW. This is a corporate work, so it's 95 years. If you can manage to kill all the lawyers in the country before 2033, maybe you'll be able to download it for free, but only if somebody can find an original recording.

    5. Re:WOTW Audio by jerde · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, if you want to pay for the download

      Huh? They have it for free, in both streaming or downloadable real audio.

      - Peter

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    6. Re:WOTW Audio by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Wow, thanks Peter. The server must have been busy the previous 7 times I tried to download.

      Now, after a painless 10 minute dowmload of RealPlayer (my mouse index finger is sore from clicking the "don't send me spam" button) I can now hear the file!

      Paul

    7. Re:WOTW Audio by spezz · · Score: 1
      It's also on the Citizen Kane DVD.

    8. Re:WOTW Audio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Wow, thanks Peter. The server must have been busy the previous 7 times I tried to download.

      Now, after a painless 10 minute dowmload of RealPlayer (my mouse index finger is sore from clicking the "don't send me spam" button) I can now hear the file!"

      Jesus. What a whiny bitch!

  13. Mars Attacked! by twemperor · · Score: 2

    Did anyone else read the headline as we attacked Mars?

    Maybe if an updated modern-day equivalent reading (perhaps, special effects on the news) were to happen today, we could scare the current administration into launching a manned Mars mission ...even if only to get the Martian Terrorists.

    1. Re:Mars Attacked! by GeneralCern · · Score: 1

      It reads as "Mars Attacked" as a word play on the popular Topps trading cards released back in the day. Comic books and a "Mars Attacks" movie (by Tim Burton) followed.

    2. Re:Mars Attacked! by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 1

      I used to own an incomplete set of those cards, how happy I was to find them all here. Thanks Zelda

  14. Lord John Whorfin officially states: by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Laugh-a while you can, monkey boy!"

    John Bigboote points out:

    "It's not my goddamn planet, understand, monkey boy?"

    Where are we going?
    Planet 10!
    When?
    Real soon!

    1. Re:Lord John Whorfin officially states: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's BigbooTAY!

  15. Listen to it here by sdmartin101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can find an MP3 version of the original broadcast at http://www.unknown.nu/mercury/. (Be nice -- the server is slow even when not being slashdotted.)

  16. The dark side of the Moon by hendot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It reminds me of an april fools documentary which seemingly had evidence and proof that the moon landing was faked. It had all sorts of high profile people finally coming out and stating that it was faked. Even Buz Aldrin was in on it.
    The documentary gets sillier and sillier until in the final credits, the interviewees start asking to see the script again etc. etc. Had me going for a while too.

    1. Re:The dark side of the Moon by sahonen · · Score: 1

      Do you have a name? Anything we can google?

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    2. Re:The dark side of the Moon by hendot · · Score: 1

      "The dark side of the moon"

    3. Re:The dark side of the Moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try this, and then work out from there.

    4. Re:The dark side of the Moon by nutsy · · Score: 3, Informative
    5. Re:The dark side of the Moon by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Why, I think I'll pick that up... Oh, wait.

      Donald Rumsfeld .... Himself

      Sorry, I just vomited my intestines out all over my shoes.

  17. Well... by EverDense · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then isn't it about time for some payback?

    I am sick of living on a planet so full of peaace lovers.

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    http://jesus.everdense.com/
  18. YoYoDyne today? by acroyear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking of said invasion, what has become of YoYoDyne Propulsion's assets, anyways. I'd be interested in seeing what company took advantage of the severe drop in their stock prices after Buckaroo Bonzai "visited" their HQ back in 1984...

    then again, it was probably Enron, which is why it still has no value today...stupid monkeyboys...

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    -- Joe
    1. Re:YoYoDyne today? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, here's their whois entry, but I suspect the contact information is out of date:

      Registrant:
      Yoyodyne Software Systems (YOYODYNE-DOM)
      19772 Rawhide Road
      Sonora, CA 95370-8002
      US

      Domain Name: YOYODYNE.COM

      Administrative Contact:
      Bigboote, John (JSB) jbigboote@yoyodyne.com
      Yoyodyne Software Systems
      19772 Lizardo Road
      Sonora, CA 95370-8002
      US
      (209) 532-6030 fax: (209) 532-0541
      Technical Contact:
      McMahon, John J (jm757) fuzzface@IO.COM
      YLMI
      46883 RabbitRun Terrace
      Sterling, VA 20164
      US
      Voice 703-450-8092 Pager 703-219-6058 fax: 703-450-6793

      Record expires on 08-Mar-2008.
      Record created on 07-Mar-1991.
      Database last updated on 30-Oct-2003 18:00:11 EST.

      Domain servers in listed order:

      NS1.ADELMAN.COM 198.137.202.66
      NS2.ADELMAN.COM 206.111.107.35

  19. THey talk about it it even more recently by NiteTrip · · Score: 0
  20. Golden Age of Sci Fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the "Golden Age of Sci Fi" writers were/are scientists and engineers. The things they wrote/write about actually have some basis in physics. Heinlein spent days and sometimes weeks
    calculating orbits by hand (this was before the advent of the PC, remember), for example. Much of our scientific and engineering achievement today was first written about by Sci Fi authors, including personal computers, world wide networks, men traveling in outerspace, satellites, genetic engineering, waterbeds and much more. I personally hope we continue building what Sci Fi writers write about. Idealism and dreams lead to greatness. Pragmatism and "being realistic" lead to boredom and stagnation.

    1. Re:Golden Age of Sci Fi by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Idealism and dreams lead to greatness.

      The problem with dreams and idealism is that the idealists often dream of gulags or gas chambers.

    2. Re:Golden Age of Sci Fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The problem with dreams and idealism is that the idealists often dream of gulags or gas chambers. "

      or keeping with the theme, battlefield earth.

  21. Oh, ye poor child of the news headline generation by Xeger · · Score: 3, Informative

    You were fooled by our insidious language, which makes it virtually impossible to distinguish between simple past tense and passive voice.

    What the headline said was:

    Mars attacked [Earth], 65 years ago today.

    What you thought it said (and what it actually might have said if Slashdot were a newspaper) was:

    Mars attacked [by] Earth, 65 years ago today.

    Bloody hell..and they call this a language?

  22. would it be even possible today??? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, with the widespread nature of the media, could you ever pull something off like that today and have so many people scared shitless

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    1. Re:would it be even possible today??? by Sebastopol · · Score: 1


      Hello! WMDs anyone??? Immintent attack by Iraq??? ;-)

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    2. Re:would it be even possible today??? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      thats not a good enough answer, Im not talking about lying to the media, im talking about putting on a show (using a style like Well's) to get the public into thinking a war is going on, in some cases right down the street when they know it isnt happeneing, I really dont want some bull Bush answer to this one

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    3. Re:would it be even possible today??? by novakane007 · · Score: 1

      Several years ago there was a TV show about meteor impacts around the globe. Then later ships started to arive. It was presented as a breaking news story and LONG runs between commercials. 911 operaters criticized the station that broadcast the show because the emergency lines were slammed by people wondering what was going on.

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    4. Re:would it be even possible today??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you believe what you see on tv is real?

      group halucination. its the best kind. or if you prefer (and if you bothered to RTFA)

      "More to the point, we live in a time in which the ability to create deceptive simulations, especially for television, has become essential to the exercise of power. And the inability to see through these deceptions has become a form of powerlessness. Those who let themselves be taken in by the multiple deceptions of politics, news, advertising and public relations, are doomed, like the more gullible members of the radio audience in 1938, to play a role in other people's dramas, while mistakenly believing that they are reacting to something genuine."

    5. Re:would it be even possible today??? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      see I remeber that, but i didnt think it was as bad as that at the time then again i was like 13 or something

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    6. Re:would it be even possible today??? by bendude · · Score: 1

      Hello...

      World Trade Center...

      Arab Hijackers (Ha several of them turned out to be still alive)...

      Buildings turning to dust and falling pretty much entirely into their footprints...

      Osama bin Goldstein...

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    7. Re:would it be even possible today??? by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      I think you could do it. We're way past the Contact bit where they took Clinton out of context. With a combination of clips and CG, you could rig up a fake speech, and you could probably whip up a night-vision bombing run in Maya and Aftereffects in about 20 minutes. The special effects on Iraq II pretty much sucked, with expectations that low, practically anything would be plausible.

      You couldn't do something like this on ABC or something though. If you turn on the TV and see a war you weren't expecting, you go to CNN or Fox or whatever. If just CBS or somebody did something like that, you probably wouldn't even fool enough old people to have to worry about advertizer complaints.

      This is irresponsible prank territory, now. Hypothetically, your best bet would be to pick somewhere odd and poorly covered. Pretending the US nuked Israel isn't going to fool anybody. Mongolia, though, who knows. You go for Fox. Fox doesn't really have it's own people. They have studios, but on location they're using freelancers. MSNBC too, but they've got NBC to fall back on, Fox doesn't even know anybody in Mongolia to call and get to check. Get some guys that've worked for them before to help you out, and make sure they have a reason to be where your crazy shit is about to happen. You need something resonable and predictable first, like hostages. Say they have Americans, Fox is in. Wait until MSNBC picks it up too, since they're paranoid about being first on a story, they'll go for it. Then, start piling it on. Nuclear explosions, jets, soldiers in biohazard suits, lasers, aliens, bigfoot. Just keep going until they catch on. Then run for your life, because by the time you hear about the contract Murdoch's put out on your ass through the Russian mafia, you're already fucked.

    8. Re:would it be even possible today??? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Arab Hijackers (Ha several of them turned out to be still alive)...

      That's funny. Did you know that Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin are all still alive, eating shoes to survive in my basement? It's just as real as your living hijackers.

      Fucking trolls...

    9. Re:would it be even possible today??? by bendude · · Score: 1

      Oh grow a brain.

      I recall reading an interview with at least one of the "hijackers" just after his name was announced.

      He was an Egyptian Airline pilot. He was also pretty pissed off about being defamed big time, and really scared about what would come of it all.

      One of the issues of the what really happened crowd is that the lists were never ammeded to fix up for those who were still alive.

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    10. Re:would it be even possible today??? by bendude · · Score: 1

      Of course, there's no need to belive me and I wouldn't ask you to.

      Would you give the BBC any credibility, though?

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    11. Re:would it be even possible today??? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Oh grow a brain.

      Brilliant comeback. Even for a troll...

      > He was an Egyptian Airline pilot.

      Yes, one person. Where are the other 18 "innocents?" A single mistake does not a conspiracy make.

  23. An interesting antecdote by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From my grandfather, who worked at a gas station about 20 miles from the "landing site" He said of all the people that stopped at the station that night, half were leaving to get away from the aliens, and the other half were driving towards it!

    1. Re:An interesting antecdote by WAG24601G · · Score: 1

      Were these people interested in the event or unaware of the broadcast? I think one of the major contributing factors to the 'success' of the broadcast was the wide-spread xenophobia of the time. Americans might be more likely to greet aliens now... that or launch a massive militia attack.... take your pick.

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    2. Re:An interesting antecdote by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      No, they definately wanted to go take a look a the spacemen (they probably turned off the radio before the shooting started ;).

    3. Re:An interesting antecdote by millette · · Score: 2, Funny

      I pick massive militia attack.

    4. Re:An interesting antecdote by TheMidget · · Score: 1

      And what about your grandfather himself? Did he believe the show was real as well, or did he notice that it was just fiction? Did he try to inform his customers that it was just radio-play? What was the reaction of the customers after being told?

  24. I doubt it by MonkeyCookie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've heard parts of the original Orson Welles broadcast. With all the media we're exposed to, there is absolutely no way we'd be fooled by it today.

    Even with good editing and falsified television footage, I still doubt such a thing would fool us. We've seen way too many alien movies and such to be fooled. Something more believable and fear-inducing, such as falsified terrorist threats and terrorist attacks might do it.

    I would also point out that it would make it even more difficult to pull such a hoax now due to the fact that we have so many more media sources now. Back then there were only a few radio stations. Now we have the Internet, radio, television, etc. It would certainly look strange if one channel/station was covering it and everyone else seemed oblivious to it.

    1. Re:I doubt it by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      And no-one buys stuff from spam.

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    2. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just like the boy who cryed wolf, what if a alien invasion *Really did happen, then when it gets reported nobody will believe it...

      i think the aliens are social engineering the world for their invasion as we speak...

      were doomed, doomed i say, doomed...

    3. Re:I doubt it by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      Back when Mt St Helens erupted, one of the local TV stations ran footage of the "Blue Hills" (south of Boston) erupting, with dialogue along the lines of "Yea, its a big one, about as big as St Helens. There was such a hew and cry that a couple of the reporters lost their jobs. The assinine society we live in nowadays doesnt put up with that, for some stupid reason. Anyone with 2 neurons firing can figure it out, but we have to cowtow to the lowest common denominator...blah

    4. Re:I doubt it by Ossadagowah · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even with good editing and falsified television footage, I still doubt such a thing would fool us.

      People believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, didn't they?

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    5. Re:I doubt it by PapaSMURFFS · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but tabloid magazines are still flying off the shelves...and they're obviously fake by the standards of other media.

      I don't doubt that the same mass hysteria that origionally occured would be missing--but I'm afraid more people would buy into it then both you, or I, would hope.

    6. Re:I doubt it by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought 9/11 was a special effect the first time I saw it.

      We're so used to the medias ability to lie with ease, I expect we'd probably need to be hit by the Heat-Ray before we'd accept such a thing these days.
      Some people still believe we've never landed on the Moon, after all.

    7. Re:I doubt it by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      When I was young, I was lucky enough to have the original radio broadcast on reel to reel, along with the virtually complete Lone Ranger and Superman series. I used to put on headphones, close my eyes, and be transported to a different place. You had to use your imagination with those things.
      From what I remember, it was the first nationwide radio broadcast, and it was no hoax. It was a radio play, and was clearly identified as such at the beginning and end. The problem was that many people tuned in after it had begun.
      To set the record stright on the headline, Mars attacked us: it was not attacked, because we had no method to get there. Don't rewrite history, baby.
      I just wish that those reels had survived. I played them into the ground. Oh the classic days of radio... gone the way of dime novels, I guess.

    8. Re:I doubt it by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      Something more believable and fear-inducing, such as falsified terrorist threats and terrorist attacks might do it.

      Yeah, like today's romp through DC security by two staff halloweenists that had all the channels screaming for hours about a terrorist attack. We are just as gullible now as people were then.

    9. Re:I doubt it by freeweed · · Score: 1

      You mean these?

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    10. Re:I doubt it by jerde · · Score: 1

      PLEASE! Don't bother us with facts. They complicate things needlessly.

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    11. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, those were ours.

    12. Re:I doubt it by BinBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A lot of people believed the alien autopsy tapes.

    13. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have or had jackass

    14. Re:I doubt it by Ripplet · · Score: 1
      Oh pulleeeezzz!

      Let's see what the USA was doing 20 years ago shall we. Iran-Contra anyone? That video with Rumsfeld being rather pally with someone called Saddam? Shall we go back further, to overthrowing the democratically elected government of Iran? Do you think maybe one or two people died because of that one?

      What sort of world do you think we're going to see in the next few years, now that it's OK to attack a country because of something that they did 20 years ago, or because of something they *might* do in 5 or 10 years time. Do you really want to live in that world, because I sure as hell don't?

      Oh, by the way, did ya check out the end of the article: A UN security council statement condemning Iraq's use of chemical weapons in the war was issued in 1986, but the US and other western governments continued supporting Baghdad militarily and politically into the closing stages of the war.

      Looks like there was some interest in punishing Iraq way back then, but it wasn't in a certain country's own interest at the time!

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    15. Re:I doubt it by Ripplet · · Score: 1

      >Mars attacked us:
      Just leave off the "us:". and what do you have left? That's right, the headline. I think that's what they meant, they weren't trying to be revisionist. Good old ambiguous language eh?

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    16. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that kind of weapons are destroyed at impact, and can be used only once.

      He is talking about those that the USA claims they DIDN'T destroy.

    17. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a special effect. 'specially effective way to kill alot of Jews, which was the purpose of the main attack in the first place. The whole Pentagon thing was a distraction.

      Don't you think that the war between the arab world and the jewish one can't spread to other countries?

    18. Re:I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i didnt...

    19. Re:I doubt it by squaretorus · · Score: 1

      The first thing I did last time there was a disaster on TV was switch channels to see if they had better camera points.

      The only way this could work would be for someone to STAGE an event, and allow the media to broadcast it. That was they are all pointing at my illusion of martian invasion giving their own take on it - I just play it out wether they watch or not.

      That way Im on Sky Fox CNN BBC etc... simulateously as well as google news etc...

      It COULD work!

    20. Re:I doubt it by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Which I just don't get. If the A-rab world hates Israel SOOOO MUCH, why don't they just steamroller the fuckers? I mean, between pre-war I-raq, I-ran, and Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Jordan, Syria, Yemen and the rest, Israel would have no chance (except with those Nukular weapons they don't say that they do or do not have).

      Oh wait, it's because the U.S. of A. won't stand idly by while it's ally gets wasted. Got it.
      Hmm... seems like pissing off the neighborhood cop just so he'll stop protecting a particular house on the block so you can rob it, rape it's occupants and level it to the ground seems kind of ass-backwards, don't you think?

      But what do I know, I'm an ignorant moronic American. .

    21. Re:I doubt it by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      There are records of said play still available on the used market. I've even heard rumors of a CD version, but I've got no evidence to back that up. :-/

      I heard it when I was in... 7th grade, maybe? Sometime betwixt '89 and '94. (Yup, in the seventh grade for 5 years LoL). Part of a human studies class in mass behavior... good stuff.

    22. Re:I doubt it by chooks · · Score: 1

      People believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, didn't they?

      That's WMD to you, bub.

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    23. Re:I doubt it by chooks · · Score: 1

      Argh, wrong link:

      WMD

      Time for some caffeine...

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    24. Re:I doubt it by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 1

      So our buddy gassed a mutual enemy... big deal. Previous American administrations have always supported the use of such weapons when they fall within its own interest, and America continues to use such weapons today in support of the "War on Drugs."

      Turn off Fox News for a second and read something by Noam Chomsky. You would be surprised/horrified.

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    25. Re:I doubt it by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Point on Headline English:
      Mars Attack (noun)
      Mars Attacks (verb, past or present tenses, active voice)
      Mars Attacked (verb, past or present tenses, passive)
      Mars to Attack (verb, future, active)
      Mars to be Attacked (verb, future, passive)
      FYI

    26. Re:I doubt it by BadmanX · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'd be horrified at the lies, distortions and half-truths he uses to vilify my country. Plus, there's that whole "Pol Pot wasn't REALLY so bad" thing he does.

    27. Re:I doubt it by prhodes · · Score: 1
      Something more believable and fear-inducing, such as falsified terrorist threats and terrorist attacks might do it.

      Already been done, I think. I seem to recall something like this involving a nuclear bomb on a ship in Baltimore Harbor on TV back in the 1980s. Of course, they ran the 'this is only a tv show' blurbs before and after every commercial break, so it's not *exactly* the same.

      -Phil

    28. Re:I doubt it by Gorignak · · Score: 1

      Hasn't that already been done with "The Day After"? Or maybe I'm thinking of another reality TV movie.

    29. Re:I doubt it by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      There is no need to go back 20 years ago. Look at Forbes magazine to see what we were doing in Venezuela just a year ago.

    30. Re:I doubt it by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'd be horrified at the lies, distortions and half-truths he uses to vilify my country. Plus, there's that whole "Pol Pot wasn't REALLY so bad" thing he does.

      Please... *please* reference such statements with facts or quotations. I bet you can't.

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    31. Re:I doubt it by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Not long, ago the BBC broadcast a drama portraying the vulnerability of Britain's road system to hard gridlock; it was done in the same sort of way as the WOTW broadcast, with lots of fake news announcements, shaky camerawork, etc. The BBC got a lot of calls from panicers about it when it was on air.

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    32. Re:I doubt it by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      poster wrote:
      ...(except with those Nukular weapons they don't say that they do or do not have)...

      Israel has admitted to having Phantom jets loaded w. nukes on the tarmac ready for immediate launch during the whole 6-day war. They've since "admitted" to 200 of their total stock of 400 warheads.

    33. Re:I doubt it by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Oh really? I did not know that.

  25. the best part.... by jeffy124 · · Score: 3, Funny

    the farmer who took his rifle and fired shots at the town water tower, thinking it was a spacecraft.

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  26. Damn you, modders! by Caedar · · Score: 0, Troll

    "I've got positive karma, I don't need your stinkin' mod points!"

  27. I think this could happen again... by vudufixit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Something like it happened in 1984. Excellent made for TV movie called Special Bulletin. Made up to look like a realtime broadcast of a nuclear terrorist incident. I remember people were alarmed when they saw it, despite the disclaimers and the fact that it took place in the fictional studios of the "RBS" network. Occasionally hokey, it was well written and acted, with a humdinger of an ending.

    1. Re:I think this could happen again... by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      Was this where they detonated a bomb in Charlston SC?

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    2. Re:I think this could happen again... by stwrtpj · · Score: 1
      Was this where they detonated a bomb in Charlston SC?

      Yes, that was the one. A fairly well-done treatment of domestic terrorism. The movie was liberally sprinkled with brief announcements that it was fictional, so anyone watching for more than about 15 minutes would have figured it out.

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    3. Re:I think this could happen again... by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      So, what was the one with metors coming in, and we knocked them out only to discover that they were alien craft... and ended with the earth being bombarded by metors?

      IIRC, the creator of that did several other "news story" movies made for TV. They were quite good (for a made for TV movie), and starred real news anchors.

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    4. Re:I think this could happen again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, they added the "none of this is actually happening" thing during the commericals for the initial broadcast.

      They didn't do that for the rerun that happened a few months later.

      I know that from one of my roommates. He got fooled, but that was because he had someone else who was also watching was feeding him lines during the show ("I heard that they're trying to evaculate...").

      One could say that the joker was trying to enhance my roommate's viewing experience.

      And no, I wasn't the perpetrator or the perpetratee.

      -cmh

    5. Re:I think this could happen again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scary scary scary, that's what it was. Much too realistic especially with all the media doing live reports from the scene, well, for a while anyway. ^_^

      Assuming the media knows what's going on, the real thing would probably be very close to that: ground zero littered with sat trucks and "expert" reporters, well, for a while anyway.

      Anyway, Special Bulletin the "city gets nuked" thing much better than crap like Atomic Train. I just wanted the entire cast to die in that one.

  28. Rap time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeaaaaah booooyyyy

    *Chorus*
    puh uh huh uh huh uh
    *Chorus*

    I said Mr. Smyth, you a crazy mofo
    You got a piece of taco stickin out yo' booty ho'.

    *Chorus*

    I said Mr. Smyth, wtf dude.

    *Chorus*

    wtf man?

    *Chorus*

    *Chorus*

  29. Nothing makes me smile... by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    ..quite like stories of the gulibility of your average person.

    It just makes me giddy.

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    1. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by Frobnicator · · Score: 1
      Nothing makes me smile quite like stories of the gulibility of your average person.
      You must be a marketer or an executive. :)
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    2. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by mek2600 · · Score: 1

      You sure smile a whole lot, don't you? Later Smiles.

    3. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by Simple-Simmian · · Score: 1

      No. He has to be a politician. :-)

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    4. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

      You sure smile a whole lot, don't you? Later Smiles.

      What can I say? I'm always on a natural high.

      The hardest part is when people ask me why I'm so happy. The fact that I lie to them, and they believe it, almost doubles me over in laughter.

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    5. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by b-baggins · · Score: 1

      Then you must find slashdot to be unbearable comedy, only to be taken in short doses lest you laugh yourself to death.

      From the hysterical rantings that a university doing genetic research on viruses is a black ops military program to conquer the world for American Imperialism(TM) to the wholesale shouting that there never were WMD in Iraq, slashdot is home to some of the most gullible people on the planet.

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    6. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignorance is all it takes to be gulible. Everybody is ignorant of something. Some people just have more things that they are ignorant of. It is a great mistake to be fooled into believing that you have no ignorance.

    7. Re:Nothing makes me smile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like the other day this guy asked me what I had for dinner, and I said "Steak and potatoes". He just said "Sounds good!" and turned around. I had to leave quickly before I busted a gut laughing my head off. The fact is, I had fish and asparagus, but he believed me! Man, what a HOOT! Was that guy totally stupid or what?

  30. Attention all planets of the Solar Federation... by Evil+Adrian · · Score: 1

    ...we have assumed control.

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  31. Some comparison by Nonki · · Score: 0

    Likening people being scared out of their wits of alien attack to a singer who doesn't really sing? I think the writer could have come up with a better example. To me, Milli Vanilli lip-syncing just isn't up there on the catastrophe scale with a martian attack. They just didn't have the same effect.

  32. Now we are ready. by giblfiz · · Score: 1

    This reminds me why we need this sort of program.

    Its just not good enough to hope nature will save us from the bugeyed invaders.

  33. Love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Love turned my head today,
    I turned away.

  34. And in other news... by MojoRilla · · Score: 1

    ...SCO announced it was dropping all lawsuits and putting the Unix V source into the public domain. Also, Bill Gates announced that Microsoft would be releasing documentation for all file formats for the companies products. Finally, the patent office today revoked the Amazon one click buying patent.

    Stay tuned to this program for more details.

  35. It happens today too by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Instead today, the public is often manipulated not by what they see/hear through the media, but what they are kept from seeing/hearing. Through censorship or spin, you are told what you need to be told so that your opinions and beliefs about what is "true" match what the teller has in mind, and you are not told things that will counter those goal beliefs.

    ONe has only to compare the major U.S. news outlets with news reporting throughout the world to see examples. Not that news reporting in other countries is any less censored/spun to advance THEIR goals.....

    1. Re:It happens today too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So since you know the major outlets aren't telling the truth, you must know someplace that is telling the truth. Could you give me a link and/or a channel/network that I can watch to learn the truth?

    2. Re:It happens today too by bendude · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell, I'm not sure anyone even knows the whole truth.

      There are a lot of sources of information out there and it's up to you to analyise what you see and try to work out what's going on on your own, or with anyone who'll work with you.

      If that sounds too difficult you could always just believe everything faux news tell you.

      Ignorance is strength.

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    3. Re:It happens today too by utahjazz · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell, I'm not sure anyone even knows the whole truth.

      The truth is out there Sculley.

    4. Re:It happens today too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "If that sounds too difficult you could always just believe everything faux news tell you."

      Dickhead...

  36. Uh - huh. by gailwynand · · Score: 5, Funny

    My grandfather, for one, welcomed our new Martian overlords.

    --
    A pilot, in those days, was the only unfettered and entirely independent human being that lived in the earth.-Mark Twain
    1. Re:Uh - huh. by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 2

      Gods, the one time that the 'new overlords' joke is appropriate and it gets modded down as Offtopic.

      Oh well, off to metamoderate.

      HH
      --

    2. Re:Uh - huh. by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Did he teach you how to dance the Funky Granpa?

      --

      --
      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  37. $3 dollars cheaper + Free Shipping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  38. Hoaxes through the ages... by i_r_sensitive · · Score: 1
    What a long strange trip it's been.

    You would be hard pressed to accomplish the same level of general panic today, even intentionally.

    Which isn't to say that people have gotten smarter, consider virus hoaxes. The oft found phrase "Microsoft in an email advised..." is essentially the same as the disclaimer that Wells' radio program had. Interestingly enough, that phrase is as easily ignored now as it's corollary was then.

    There must be something about the human condition which renders our societies vulnerable to this kind of thing. It's hard to believe that after 65 years the same basic hoax recipe works. The only thing Wells' show improved was a narrowing of the scope that these hoaxes are capable of covering.

    Things like this make it hard to have any faith in your fellow man...

    --
    "Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
    "Talk minus action equals /." -
  39. The NEW war of the worlds? by sillypixie · · Score: 1
    Those who let themselves be taken in by the multiple deceptions of politics, news, advertising and public relations, are doomed, like the more gullible members of the radio audience in 1938, to play a role in other people's dramas, while mistakenly believing that they are reacting to something genuine.

    So how are we to tell whether we've been taken in or not? When a hurricane hits some remote part of the country, a newscaster tells us. When somebody famous dies, a newscaster tells us. These are things that can be independently verified. But when we are told by a newscaster that we are being targetted by weapons of mass destruction (or invaded by aliens) - where do we go for the so-called real information? For everything I read or watch, there is someplace I can go to hear the exact opposite. Other than descending into apathy, I don't believe there is a way that you can be sure that you are not an unwitting pawn in this game of global spin... all you can do is decide which side you'd like to be the pawn FOR...

    yah, ok it's a bit of a troll post, but humor me, will ya?

    Pixie

    --
    don't mess with those geekgrrls
  40. Again? by jmoriarty · · Score: 1

    Why does this comes up every year at Halloween? I thought years ago we proved that this whole War of the Worlds panic was just a big hoax, and no one was really scared. There was a video clip released that showed several people from that night not scared at all, and just sort of looking around for some candy. The video is a bit grainy, but you can clearly tell that it is hunger and not panic on their faces.

    I'm starting to think there might be a cover-up going on.

  41. Aesop by Axynter · · Score: 1

    There was once a young Shepherd Boy who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was rather lonely for him all day, so he thought upon a plan by which he could get a little company and some excitement. He rushed down towards the village calling out "Wolf, Wolf," and the villagers came out to meet him, and some of them stopped with him for a considerable time. This pleased the boy so much that a few days afterwards he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. But shortly after this a Wolf actually did come out from the forest, and began to worry the sheep, and the boy of course cried out "Wolf, Wolf," still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the boy was again deceiving them, and nobody stirred to come to his help. So the Wolf made a good meal off the boy's flock, and when the boy complained, the wise man of the village said: "A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth."

    If people are fooled like this enough times, they will become skeptic... What will happen in case of a real emergency (aka. newly discovered asteroid, big enough to create a 20 km crater, will impact NYC in 20 hours)?

    1. Re:Aesop by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      haha - with 20 hours notice, that should give the N.Yorkers just enough time to totally clog the highways & start mass riots....right before we learn the measurements had slight inaccuracies and the thing vaporizes Buffalo. Hilarity ensues.

    2. Re:Aesop by kalanar · · Score: 1

      What will happen in case of a real emergency (aka. newly discovered asteroid, big enough to create a 20 km crater, will impact NYC in 20 hours)?

      We will call Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck, oh and Aerosmith.

    3. Re:Aesop by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      OK, You asked for it.

      What do you call 20-ton meteorite hitting Buffalo, NY?

      An improvement.

      Thanks, I'll be here all week.

      (God, I can still hear Irv Weinstein talking about the three-alarm blazes in Lackawana and North Tonowanda)

      --
      If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.
  42. Future Shock by nate+nice · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    'Nuff said.

    --
    "If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, A hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer ..."
  43. How far has it gone? by Valiss · · Score: 1

    How far has the original radio broadcast signal gotten out in space I wonder...?

    --

    -Valiss
    1. Re:How far has it gone? by idontgno · · Score: 1
      Umm...maybe...65 light-years?

      Technically, 65 radio-years.

      But what's that in dog-star years?

      --
      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    2. Re:How far has it gone? by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      65 light years :)

    3. Re:How far has it gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I dunno... maybe about 65 light years?

    4. Re:How far has it gone? by Valiss · · Score: 1

      I was refering to 'land' marks - i.e. another solar system? star?

      --

      -Valiss
    5. Re:How far has it gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if we leave now we can catch up to it!

    6. Re:How far has it gone? by schnits0r · · Score: 1

      oh...about 614952000000000 km

    7. Re:How far has it gone? by schnits0r · · Score: 1

      Assuming my numbers and calculations are correct 4270500 times the distance between the earth and the sun (average distance)

    8. Re:How far has it gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm well i googled for closest stars and got

      30 closest stars

      all of which are well below 65 light years. maybe they are listening...

    9. Re:How far has it gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conventional network broadcast radio waves are confined inside earth's ionosphere; they lack the power to penetrate beyond this layer of the atmosphere. In fact, this radio reflective layer allows for quite far stations to be pulled in, especially late at night.

      The idea of flying a spaceship out 65+ light years to "harvest" lost radio shows is a forlorn myth, I'm afraid. ::Brian::

      P.S. Broadcast television, on the otherhand, DOES have enough energy to radiate beyond our ionosphere. Technically, you could track down all those lost episodes of Dr. Who!

    10. Re:How far has it gone? by bluGill · · Score: 1

      The Ionosphere isn't perfect, Some signal leaks out. Admitadly a lot (most?) does not, but that isn't a valid reason to claim none of it does. Remember, if you accept the existance of a radio sensitive enough to recieve the signal at 65 light years it isn't a stretch to assume it can detect the signal despite the additional loss from the ionosphere too.

      All this is theroetical though. Physics as we understand it today doesn't allow us to get out to 65 light years to check the signal. Not to mention a bunch of strange effects on time.

  44. Orson Wells: America's First Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, he is if you think about it. I wonder if at the end of the radio script was the line "By the way, listening audience, 'YHBT. HTH. HAND.'"

  45. Mars first attacked in 1898 by nufsaid · · Score: 1

    The original "Wells", H.G.Wells published his account of the martian invasion in 1898. I think the later Welles was a little late with the news.

    --
    Is this the promised end? Or image of that horror? KING LEAR
    1. Re:Mars first attacked in 1898 by g00z · · Score: 1

      Hot Grits Wells?

      --
      "The Wright brothers were the first to fly with a heavier-than-air machine, but boy did they have a lousy plane"
    2. Re:Mars first attacked in 1898 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The original "Wells", H.G.Wells published his account of the martian invasion in 1898.

      Well, I don't think people were taking the original H.G.Wells publication as news that actually happened.

      Of course, forty years later, people were getting news and entertainment from the same source.

      This incident is still remembered for the people who got the two confused...

      -cmh

  46. Re:News for Nerds by stratjakt · · Score: 1

    Anymore newsworthy than the 66th, 64th, 63rd anniversaries?

    I can see 50, 75.. Nice round numbers. Or the centennial anniversary, 100.. I'll even go so far as the 69th anniversary.

    But what's so special about the 65th anniversary?

    This isn't news, this is a lame segment for "this week in history".

    --
    I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
  47. And another thing by good-n-nappy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why is 65 significant? I don't remember celebrating last year at 64? Is it just because it's a multiple of 5? I mean, can we celebrate insignificant events like this on multiples of 10 at least, if not 25?

    65 sounds like one of the years used for sales at a furniture store.

    --
    Never underestimate the power of fiber.
    1. Re:And another thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course 65 is significant, it's retirement age!

  48. Martian invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The fact that we regard this radio broadcast as fiction shows the how effectively the conquering Martians have infiltrated all organs of the state.

    1. Re:Martian invasion by AVee · · Score: 0

      The fact that we regard this radio broadcast as fiction shows the how effectively the conquering Martians have infiltrated all organs of the state.

      And the fact that OP got modded funny proves his point...

  49. You are an illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    never what you seem.

  50. Crop Circling by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A fews years ago, a few friends and I decided to mark this occasion in what we thought was a pretty interesting manner. We, being native Jerseyites, took a trip out to the location where the "meteor" (sparking the invasion and spooking the local population) originally impacted - Browns Mills, NJ - and making some of our own "crop circles". We were drunk and not very skilled at this endeavor, but the end result turned out pretty nicely we thought. We kept at it while too and make them farily large and noticable. We did this in the dead of night, and whether or not the farmer in question caught the meaning of what we did, I'm fairly certain we gave him something to scratch his head over and ponder the next morning.

    --
    Quod scripsi, scripsi.
    1. Re:Crop Circling by JohnKFisher · · Score: 1

      Especially since it was GROVER'S Mills. (sigh)

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      John Kenneth Fisher
      Table of malContents
    2. Re: Crop Circling by gidds · · Score: 1
      We... took a trip out to the location where the "meteor"... originally impacted

      In one sense, at least, the original impact point was several thousand miles away, in Horsell Common in Surrey...

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    3. Re:Crop Circling by nagora · · Score: 1
      took a trip out to the location where the "meteor" (sparking the invasion and spooking the local population) originally impacted

      We walk our dog in the sandpit where the first cylinder landed in the book; Horsel Common is just up the road from where we live and there's a nice statue of a war-machine in the town centre too.

      TWW

      --
      "Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
    4. Re:Crop Circling by nsebban · · Score: 1

      It was you !?!? young Bast#$%* :):):)

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    5. Re:Crop Circling by BJH · · Score: 1

      Pity that Woking's such a crappy place to live otherwise... I didn't mind it so much, but it drove my wife batty.

    6. Re:Crop Circling by nagora · · Score: 1
      Pity that Woking's such a crappy place to live otherwise.

      We're actually in Brookwood; we drive up to the common with the mutt. The town's really suffered at the hands of the country's most inane architects. I've never seen an entire town suffer from "sick building syndrome" before.

      TWW

      --
      "Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
  51. Nothing happened? by taernim · · Score: 1

    Interesting... in the report, it claims "not much" happened as a result from the outcry from the broadcast to make sure it didn't happen again.

    As a former radio broadcaster, I can call BS on that -- one of the FCC's No No's includes things that would incite a panic falsely.

    If you want more info on it, the FCC giveth.

    --
    "PC Load Letter? What the $@#% does that mean?!"
    1. Re:Nothing happened? by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, most people caught on to the fact that it was just entertainment, especially considering that the show was prefaced as being a halloween joke. But of course there were a few people who called in to complain that they'd been had. That's why the FCC got involved. There's a fantastic video clip (I originally saw it in an Orson Welles film class, so I have no idea where to find it) of Welles before a panel, FCC I think, where they ask him about what he did and whether he intended to fool and scare people (which he obviously did mean to do). Anyhoo, basically he sits there with the most obviously fake incredulous look on his face, speaking very apologetically and pretty much hamming it up. In fact, at one point he looks at the camera and flashes a sort of half-grin. Classic stuff.

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      why? forty-two.
  52. "Mars attacked" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the original War of the Worlds, I could have swore it was the earth that was attacked...

  53. You mean? by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

    You mean I can finally come out of my bomb shelter? After 65 years, the fallout from the atomic wars has surely dissapated.

    --
    There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
    most of us won't be able to afford it.
    -- Lemmy
  54. It's on HistoryChannel.com by EqualSlash · · Score: 1
  55. Re:Attention all planets of the Solar Federation.. by syrinx · · Score: 1

    but, but, we have great computers filling our hallowed halls!

    (we haven't heard of laptops yet)

    - the priests

    --
    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
  56. My song...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh pregnant bitch, i so dig you
    i wanna cover ur face with creamy goo
    watch yer cankered lips wallow on my dick
    ride ya up n down on my man-meat stick

    CmdrTaco's baby? well I can't see
    how he knocked you up from down on his knees
    Maybe CowboyNeal spit his goo in yer snatch
    after sucking it out from goatse's patch

    Oh pregnant tubgirl you shit so high
    folded up n squirtin' up to the sky
    yer asshole's pretty so puckered n round
    but what's it look like when it comes back down

    Oh pregnant girl what's a man to do?
    you swirl yer shit around for the whole damn crew
    whip us out that veiny tit
    then scoot back n forth in your puddle of shit

    Oh pregnant girl....!

  57. Or... by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could just order the CD online at Amazon. The CD is great.

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    [Please type your sig here.]
    1. Re:Or... by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

      We're talking the radio broadcast in 1938, not Jeff Wayne's musical interpretation that was much later.

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      John_Chalisque
  58. It's the comma! by Treacle+Treatment · · Score: 0

    Mars Attacked 65 Years Ago Today parses a lot easier than
    Mars Attacked, 65 Years Ago Today.
    -- TT

    --
    TT
  59. Right! Hoax my eye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CLOSE ON MONITOR: a list of IDENTICAL DATES AND PLACES NEXT TO A RAFT
    OF NAMES.

    BILLY
    All these people applied for drivers' licenses in the same town in New
    Jersey on the exact same date.

    NEW JERSEY
    New Jersey?

    BILLY
    Forty-six Yoyodyne employees. Grover's Mill, New Jersey, 11/1/38.

    RAWHIDE
    Grover's Mills, Grovers' Mills...1938. Why's that so darn familiar?

    RENO
    Looks like none of these guys ever lived anywhere else. No places of
    birth. And all of them with the same first name: John.

    New Jersey studying the screen...

    NEW JERSEY
    November 1, thirty days have September, April, June, and
    November...when short February's done, all the rest have thirty-one.
    October 31st! Halloween! Don't you get it?
    (obviously not)
    Orson Welles!

    BILLY
    You mean the guy from the old wine commercials?

    NEW JERSEY
    Halloween. 1938..."War of the Worlds"...that fake radio news broadcast
    that got everybody scared, thinking that real live Martians were
    landing in Grover's Mill, New Jersey! But then it all just turned out
    to be a hoax.

    BILLY
    Then that's it!

    RENO
    What's it?

    NEW JERSEY
    Right! Hoax my eye!

    RENO
    You mean--? No!

    BILLY
    Yes! Martians! Right across the river in Grover's Mills!

    1. Re:Right! Hoax my eye! by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A pity that The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension got the date wrong.

      But then so did the TV series War of the Worlds (transcribed script). The series attempted to establish that the 1938 broadcast was an actual invasion, but was a scout force sent in advance of the 1953 invasion depicted in the movie. They suggested that Orson Welles and men from the government came by following that attempted invasion and concocted a panic-inducing script to cover up what really happened.

      Except the radio broadcast was on the 30th and the eyewitnesses had it occuring on the 31st. Meaning Welles (and not Howard Koch) wrote the radio play in at most -1 days, probably less. Now that's a neat trick.

      The site is mine, and I need to resume updating it. It's written from the perspective of the series, and so incorporates the mythos, yet also serves as a collection of tellings of the story, including comic books and arcade games. It suffers from a lack of airing of the TV series. I just haven't been able to keep up my own interest in it.

      --
      Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  60. Re:News for Nerds by nutsy · · Score: 1

    I can see 50, 75.. Nice round numbers. ... But what's so special about the 65th anniversary?

    Well, Slashdot wasn't around 15 years ago; and given the general progression of the Web, will probably be a porn squatter's site 10 years from now. So they're getting their kicks in while they can.

  61. been done on TV? by complete+loony · · Score: 1
    I heard about a more modern rip off on TV, never saw it though.

    They ran a continuous ticker at the bottom of the screen to ensure you knew it was fictional.

    The source I heard about this from claims it was played in canada, but I can't confirm this.

    So unless someone else can back me up, just ignore my ramblings like you always do ;)

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  62. Re:Obvious W quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again."

  63. A sign of the Apocalypse? by sxltrex · · Score: 1

    I can't believe the author dared to compare Orson Well's War of the Worlds to Milli Vanilli. Them's fightin' words!

  64. Special Bulletin by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

    Is anyone old enough to recall the 1983 TV movie Special Bulletin? It was presented as real-time coverage of a nuclear terrorist/hostage situation. Everyone at the network remembered the WotW broadcast, so the show carried lots of disclaimers. In spite of that, there were a lot of phone calls made to the police, especially in the area where the story was supposed to be taking place.

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    Nothing for 6-digit uids?
    1. Re:Special Bulletin by LouisvilleDebugger · · Score: 1

      *I* remember Special Bulletin! Got in trouble for
      running in and trying to convince my parents it was for real.... ;)

  65. I think Buckaroo Banzai... by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 1

    ...conclusively proved that "War of the Worlds" was indeed real. :P

    --

    "People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
  66. Re:Attention all planets of the Solar Federation.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What? No "all your planet are belong.." jokes? No "Attention all planets (..) and soviet russia.." jokes? I'm disappointed.

  67. Re:Oh, ye poor child of the news headline generati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In either case, please remove the comma, as it doesn't belong here.

  68. Paws at the end of his claws? by Xeger · · Score: 1

    I don't understand, what you mean, because where I come from, commas are revered and considered, an integral part, of society. If I had a nickel, for every time one of my countrymen, used a comma in a sentence, I'd be a very rich man, indeed.

    We don't get much done where I'm from, but nobody ever accused us of talking too fast.

    Seriously -- thanks for cracking down on my lax puncutation. Even if I was forced to insert the ole foot a few inches into the mouth, on account of practicing sloppy English in a comment that was supposed to berate sloppy English.

  69. For those wondering about non sequitor comments by daves · · Score: 1

    Go rent Buckaroo Banzia. Highly recommended, but watch it with a group of people.

    And remember. Wherever you go ... there you are.

    --
    People who disagree with you are not automatically evil, greedy, or stupid.
  70. Re:Oh, ye poor child of the news headline generati by Daengbo · · Score: 1

    However, in headline English, the past tense is almost never used. A form like that in the headline is reserved for the passive voice, and the active voice would be written like "Mars Attack Anniversary, 65 years ago" or even "Mars Attacks 65 Years Ago." The use is therefore incorrect, and his misunderstanding is not due to any ambiguity in English, but rather editor error. Passive voice and past tense are easily distinguished in normal (not headline) English by the use of the be verb.

  71. I know it... by DeathoP · · Score: 1

    ...great movie, Jeff Goldblum in a freakin' cowboy outfit?! Crazy, man. I'm off to another dimension, B. Banzai

  72. Perfect reality tv by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    Face it the public would love stuff like this today. Im surprised that producers havnt started milking this form of reality tv and have instead chose an interesting, yet slightly shit path of "*-stars", "something island" and "i dont give a fuck why is this the 3rd sequel big brother", not to mention "im going to sit in a plastic box and the 24hr live cam is on pay per view because its so fucking in your face cutting edge of your seat tv david blaine" (who btw has disappeared from media attention and is still waiting in a hostpital corridor). People love police chase videos and any other sort action reality compilations, people also love the news when something exciting is happening, and if series 2 of 24 was anything to go by people love nukes and planes. So tv producers:

    Combine nukes, planes, aliens (maybe) and police, in a real-time news coverage style (like that cheap 80's "special bulletin" but with better effects and acting) and you'll have a winner! Then you can cash in by constantly quoting phone lines that people can call to get "more information" and alternatives to 911 (all these numbers are priemium rate and loop advertising)

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  73. Re:it happened again by wawadave · · Score: 0

    yes she did.like yours as if yours did!

  74. Re:Orson Wells: America's First Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Followed with "k thx bye!"

  75. Reminds me... by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
    ...of the best movie marquee I ever saw. I took a picture, but I can't find it right now.

    ONE FINE DAY
    MARS ATTACKS
    THE ENGLISH PATIENT

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  76. A cautionary tale.. by iantri · · Score: 1

    A somewhat related cautionary tale about how easy it is to fool people that was mentioned recently in a comment on Slashdot..
    Viewpoint: A Dangerous Experiment

  77. Nonsense! by akahige · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They didn't issue a "warning" because it didn't occur to anyone that it might be taken seriously. "War of the Worlds" wasn't intended to be a hoax, and anyone willing to intellectually engage even slightly with the show would have been able to tell that it wasn't true.

    The originating news service is fake, the prestigious hotel in New York from which the show was supposedly broadcast didn't exist, the famous band leader at said hotel was also fictitious. There are many references to non-existent broadcasting services and locations, and as the show continues, and they're describing the swathe of destruction left by the aliens as they advance on New York City (with 20 minutes left in the show) ... anyone actually in New York could simply look out at the sky and see if it was glowing. According to the broadcast within the broadcast, 3 million people had left the City, thousands were jumping into the Hudson River, and the location of the advancing fires were very specifically described.

    So for a one hour show, the first 40 minutes are concerned with the initial "attack" and the fake documentary; even if that confused some people, there is absolutely NO WAY that anyone could mistake the last 20 minutes for anything other than radio drama. Orson Welles describing the actions of his character travelling through a wasteland of destruction and death, meeting a National Guardsman in hiding and engaging him in conversation and great inspirational speechifying.

    "War of the Worlds" was the 17th broadcast episode of the Mercury Theatre. It aired weekly on CBS, in the same time slot, and with the same cast. The thing that REALLY makes you wonder about the American populace, is that Orson Welles was a constant fixture on the radio -- he was the original voice of The Shadow -- on multiple networks, and he appears prominently in the show. It's not like you'd mistake that voice for someone else.

    Welles was on the radio as The Shadow from September 1937 until September '38. The Mercury Theatre on the Air began in July 1938. Considering the length of the broadcast day, and the lack of dense programming, that means that everyone knew who Orson Welles was.

    Oh well. As H.L. Mencken is often misquoted as saying, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

  78. A good argument for "project Marconi" ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... along the lines of project Gutenberg, isn't it ?

    > When I was young, I was lucky enough to have the original radio broadcast on reel to reel ...
    > I just wish that those reels had survived. I played them into the ground. Oh the classic days of radio... gone the way of dime novels, I guess.

  79. What good would such a warning do ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > If people are fooled like this enough times, they will become skeptic...
    > What will happen in case of a real emergency
    > (aka. newly discovered asteroid, big enough to
    > create a 20 km crater, will impact NYC in
    > 20 hours)?

    What good would such a warning do ?

    Think of all the traffic jams !

    After all, there is not enough time for people all over the US to drive their old cars to New York in order to cash in on the insurance ...

  80. And Tommorow John Pater... by YOU+ARE+SUCH+A+FAG! · · Score: 0

    will declare that Martians landed 65 years ago yesterday

  81. Spaced Invaders by SWTP_OS9 · · Score: 1

    If you think we are fooled easly how about the martian's in Spaced Invaders?

    They beleved instead of Arturis or some far distant planet the Imperial Space Navy was attacking they though the re-broadcast was real and the main attacked was realy Earth!

    Yep the famious line of: "Die Earth schum! Die Earth schum! I write that on your tombstone!"

  82. FORGET Hitler and ALL the other radio stations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is real. We are all going to die!

  83. Re:Orson Wells: America's First Troll by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

    My thoughts exactly! I wonder how he would react to, say, Adequacy if he were alive today....

  84. Comma by Dissonant · · Score: 1

    If you remove the comma, it parses correctly.

  85. 3.0568 * 10^15 by flikx · · Score: 1

    furlongs.

    (That's about 2.421 * 10^19 inches.)

    --
    One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
  86. Wow, I misinterpreted that headline by crashnbur · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else read the headline of this story to mean that Mars had been attacked? I don't know where my mind was going with that... Maybe The Onion knows.

  87. Offical licensed version in mp3 by identd · · Score: 1

    This is the legal version of it, and plus, it sounds good
    http://sounds.unknown.nu/mercury/381030.mp3
    (WMA format as well)

  88. Sorry, even H.G. got the year wrong by 5,000,000 by LouisvilleDebugger · · Score: 1
    Prof. Quatermass says so.

    (*taunts the Buckaroo fans*)

  89. And 65 is special because? by PurpleWizard · · Score: 1

    50 well that's 0.5c (obivously where C is century)
    100 that's c.
    65 is just not a pleasant fraction of the whole bigger unit. We might as well celebrate its 66, 67, 68, ok you can guess this sequence...

  90. Official website (with complete download) by rbb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm surprised nobody has linked to official website, where you can listen to the entire broadcast.

    They're offering a transcript, MP3 files and a Real Audio stream as well as in-depth background information.

    --
    In God We Trust, Others We Monitor
  91. Yep, and here's how... by Oxygen99 · · Score: 1

    Trying to fake a major event using mocked up tape is the wrong way to do this. You'd need to fake so much corroborated and consistent material that the whole charade would fall apart in hours.

    If you really wanted to perform a convincing hoax, for example a UFO crash, all you'd need to do is fake the incident itself and have a bunch of people playing the parts of those involved. Then simply sit back and watch the media eat itself. You don't have to take on the media head on by playing it at it's own game, it's far more powerful to subvert the power and influence of the media against itself.

    A small group of actors could easily stick to a improvised script for long enough and remain relatively consistent if all the major details were agreed beforehand. (After all, you don't want it to be too neat) If you can then stage the incident convincingly enough, the power of the media will guarantee that it becomes truth before you can say Orson Welles. After all, how hard can it be to fake a convincing UFO crash? It's all smoke and mirrors.

    The stupidity of mainstream media and its target audience is almost limitless. It can't be that difficult to fool them. I don't want to score political points, but as some people have mentioned, the media coverage of the recent war in Iraq was hardly a bastion of truth and that was a real conflict in which real people died real deaths. If they can be fooled on something that important, then I don't expect them to pay much attention to anything.

    So any master hoaxers out there want to comment?

    --
    I had a dream, bright and carefree, but now there's doubt and gravity
    1. Re:Yep, and here's how... by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Channel 4 did this very recently in Britain; they faked some UFO movements and just sat back and filmed the local community and press go nuts. Entertaining viewing, and a reminder we're not as incredulous as we like to think.

      --
      [FUCK BETA]
  92. Ha ha! Yeah, me too. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    One of those half-second double takes.

    "It was? By who?"


    -FL

  93. Psy-op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was a well funded and thought out Psy-op, not your average prank.

    http://100777.com/node/view/157

    "...The broadcast was a psychological warfare experiment conducted by The Princeton Radio Project. The Rockefeller Foundation funded the project in the fall of 1937. An Office of Radio Research was set up with Paul F. Lazarsfeld as director, and Frank Stanton and Hadley Cantril as associate directors. Cantril used a special grant from the General Education Board to study the effects of the broadcast. Cantril published the study as a book titled "THE INVASION FROM MARS - A STUDY IN THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PANIC." It contains a complete script of the broadcast. The book is one of a series of studies sponsored by the Federal Radio Education Committee.1

    WAR OF THE WORLDS, was broadcast by Mercury Theater on the Air, from a microphone in a New York studio of the Columbia Broadcasting System. Council on Foreign Relations member Frank Stanton was a CBS executive. Stanton would direct Radio Free Europe. Regarding the programs realism Cantril writes..."

  94. Yes. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    im talking about putting on a show (using a style like Well's) to get the public into thinking a war is going on, in some cases right down the street

    Of course it's possible.

    Social patterns information was collected and studied after Well's radio play fallout. I've seen papers written by university and advertising think-tanks citing such data on the subject of how to effectively fool a population into specific behavior patterns.

    People are actually more susceptible today than they were 65 years ago. People have far less capacity today for critical thought, and moreover, they have been convinced that the opposite is true.

    One can indeed point to 9-11 which included cool explosions, (special effects), to work its nasty magic. Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, most people still completely believe that 9-11 was not a deliberate fabrication, and they believe this based on nothing more than the network news casts they watch.

    Another way of looking at it is to observe how advertising works; it is demonstrated on a daily basis that one can create powerful behavioral responses based on entirely manufactured stimuli.


    -FL

    1. Re:Yes. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, most people still completely believe that 9-11 was not a deliberate fabrication

      Mountains of evidence? I'd like to meet you in person, just so that I can call you a liar to your face. I haven't seen a pebble of evidence, even a boulder, let alone a mountain. Please point me to this missing mountain.

      > they believe this based on nothing more than the network news casts they watch.

      The news and the fact that almost nothing would be gained by the government for doing it.

    2. Re:Yes. by achurch · · Score: 1

      > Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, most people still completely believe that 9-11 was not a deliberate fabrication

      Mountains of evidence? I'd like to meet you in person, just so that I can call you a liar to your face.

      YHBT, I think. Though I wouldn't put it past Emperor Buh, seeing what various dictators have done in the past...

    3. Re:Yes. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > YHBT, I think.

      I know, but I don't consider it "feeding" trolls. If no one points out troll lunacy, some might actually believe it.

      > I wouldn't put it past Emperor Buh, seeing what various dictators have done in the past

      Thankfully, since "Buh" is neither an emperor nor a dictator, there isn't a valid comparison. :)

    4. Re:Yes. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
      Mountains of evidence? I'd like to meet you in person, just so that I can call you a liar to your face. I haven't seen a pebble of evidence, even a boulder, let alone a mountain. Please point me to this missing mountain.

      Are you serious. . !? It'd be that big elephant shaped thing in the middle of your living room. Even a half-hearted internet search would give you a year's worth of extensive reading material. Clue in, my man!

      the fact that almost nothing would be gained by the government for doing it.

      Oh. I see. You're being willfully blind. Nevermind then. Carry on. I'm sure Haliburton and Carlyle will sing you back to sleep.


      -FL

    5. Re:Yes. by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, read my other comment here.

      Some very nice evidence right there.

    6. Re:Yes. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Are you serious. . !? It'd be that big elephant shaped thing in the middle of your living room.

      Yes I am, and I don't have an elephant in my living room, except the little jade statuette, so WTF are you talking about?

      > Clue in, my man!

      What do you expect me to search for? "Trade Center Hoax?" Nothing comes up but some really whacked out theories that can be torn to shreds in seconds.

      > You're being willfully blind

      And you're being wullfully paranoid.

      > Nevermind then

      I see, you can't be bothered to tell me any evidence to back up extraordinary claims. What's that saying about extraordinary evidence? I see none, ordinary or not, and your refusal to even give a single shred of a starting point is a good indicator you're trolling.

      HAND

    7. Re:Yes. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
      What do you expect me to search for? "Trade Center Hoax?" Nothing comes up but some really whacked out theories that can be torn to shreds in seconds.

      Oh, come on. NOBODY is that stupid. And I bet you didn't even do that search. Use some imagination, friend. And sorry, but it WILL take some work to sort through the mountains of information, because yes, some of it is bunk.

      I see, you can't be bothered to tell me any evidence to back up extraordinary claims. What's that saying about extraordinary evidence? I see none, ordinary or not, and your refusal to even give a single shred of a starting point is a good indicator you're trolling.

      Nonsense. This is just another of the bits of social programming used to keep people asleep. What's wrong with good, old fashioned, 'evidence'? What exactly is 'extraordinary evidence' anyway?

      I could provide you with many links, many bits of refined thinking. You think a 'willfully paranoid' like me hasn't done a ton of thinking and reading? Psh. But guess what? I am not the one suffering from ignorance here. And read this part carefully: Those who have knowledge do not owe you anything. I do not care what you go away believing. It would certainly be nice if you woke up, but if you want to defend your ignorance as though it were some sort of valued prize, then fine. I lose nothing in this, and you gain nothing. It's not a contest. If you honestly want to know, then I'll provide you with some links. But you want to play king of the mountain. The hell with that. I have better things to spend my energy on.

      Indeed, this is another piece of social programming, designed to keep you sitting on your duff, doing nothing to educate yourself, waiting for the Authority Figures on Television to give you nicely packaged answers. Lazy! -And entirely ineffectual, since the Authority Figures on Television have a vested interest in keeping you really, really dumb.

      This kind of thinking has been encouraged by the decades of television legal drama, where the juries (you), are sequestered from the public, sit in boxes (couches), and are only allowed to look at the little stage show presentation of argument and debate with zero access to the world of information beyond.

      Guess what? It is UP TO YOU to learn. YOU must look at the greater world, and not whine when people don't provide you with 'extraordinary evidence' which they spent time and energy collecting and thinking about. With your attitudes, you don't deserve to know what is really going on.

      But you'll probably just go away thinking, "Ah. He is scared to show his information for fear that my superior debating wit will flatten him."

      Whatever. Go back to sleep. Enjoy the coming draft. The sooner you get blown up by an Iraqi, (Syrian, Iranian, Saudi) RPG, the happier you'll be. Can't get any more asleep than 'dead'.

      Knowledge protects. Ignorance endangers.


      -FL

  95. MOD PARENT UP EVEN MORE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, didn't they?

    Ha-ha! That's hilarious! I think the people of Halabja were fooled, too. They died by the thousands. Stupid worthless Iraqi lives. You are so witty to point out that Hussein and his cronies would NEVER defy UN resolutions, torture and murder his own people, and aid and abet terrorists. Thank you!

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP EVEN MORE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those weren't the WMDs, those were the weapons the US sent to him...and the US continued to send weapons to him even after he gassed the Kurds...

  96. Wrong decade. US was supporting Saddam back then. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Get your history straight.

    I seem to recall that those weapons were found and destroyed after the first Gulf War, and that inspectors were unable to find any new WMDs before the dawn of the second.

    But I suppose some people just love their fictional radio broadcasts too much to bother looking at the 'complicated' truth.


    -FL

  97. Best lie advertisers ever told. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    is that people are not affected by advertising.

    I would wager that people are even MORE suceptible today than they were 65 years ago. Education standards have dropped. With convenience food making people slow, fat and stupid, with television, videogames, anti-depressants. . , the list goes on and on; many people are dumb as dirt today.

    You are correct in your mention of terrorist threats.

    When we consider 9-11, we see that there is a mountain of credible evidence, a mountain of very legitimate yet unanswered questions, and a government with an obvious track record of lying, all of which points to 9-11 being, at best, something other than what was advertised, and at worst, a deliberate fabrication designed to create specific social responses. And yet most people still believe without any question that 9-11 was what Bush tells them it was, and they believe this through exactly the same systems War of the Worlds used. --The only difference being that with 9-11 there were no disclaimers, and they actually blew some stuff up for effect.

    Heck, certain think-tanks spent a lot of time studying the data collected from the War of the Worlds radio play fall-out specifically to study how better to advertise products and sell government spin to the public.


    -FL

  98. And they say Don Quixote was crazy... by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    And they say Don Quixote was crazy for attacking a few much more fearsome looking windmills...

  99. John BigBooty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ask Buckaroo Banzai about the truth about 65 years ago today.. he'll tell u..

  100. Earth "Armada" to Mars by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Earth has sent four probes to Mars. The European Space Agency probe orbits on Christmas. The USA "Spirit" and "Opportunity" land Jan 4 and 25. The long-meadering Japanese probe (launched into wrong trajectory in 1998) may arrive in January too. These four probes join the two active USA camera-orbitors. Martians watch out! We are coming!

  101. The other views... by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

    "That's funny. Did you know that Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin are all still alive, eating shoes to survive in my basement? It's just as real as your living hijackers. Fucking trolls..."

    Actually, it's seems that it's not that far-fetched... After reading his post, I did a search, and found some VERY interesting links.

    Ofcourse, one should take everything one reads on the internet with a pinch of salt. But when the evidence of a hoax is evident even on the official photos, posted on the official government sites, and clearly shows that it simply couldn't have happened the way the gov't say it does, what should you belive?

    Check out this for a starter.

    If that makes you interested, and maybe even doubt the official story, check out these then:

    Physical and Mathematical Analysis of the Pentagon Crash.
    The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism.
    9/11 - ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX?

    1. Re:The other views... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Actually, it's seems that it's not that far-fetched

      It's an interesting idea, but what happened to the plane, if it didn't crash there. There were 4 missing planes. The people who had loved ones on that plane were interviewed. The plane had to go somewhere, so was it crashed into the ocean or something?

      If it was all set-up (and the hijackers are still alive) what about the one that was "commandeered" by the passengers? And the cellphone calls? All set up? It's possible, and I don't trust the U.S. government one bit, but it's not with in the circle of likelyhood.