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Thunderbird works just fine (and a lot better than Outlook) for IMAP. When you go into settings to enable IMAP, there's a little link below that will detail for you how to use IMAP with gmail from common email apps (including Thunderbird).
The servers are:
imap.gmail.com
smtp.gmail.com
The username fields are:
yourusername@gmail.com
Once you've added a gmail account to thunderbird, you can add your other IMAP/POP3 accounts (if you haven't already), and drag+drop email between them and gmail.
Well, that's the theory anyhow. Right now the gmail IMAP server is a bit slow and won't actually let me in... probably being slashdotted:-)
However, I've done the same between various POP3/IMAP accounts before (note that if you drag from IMAP to POP3 it won't appear on other machines with the same POP3 account, since mail in that format stores on the local machine).
How exactly would they do this? Bill customers again? Charge it to a Visa (against the Visa terms I believe)? Taxes are usually pushed to the end-user... but it's pretty hard to collect from the end-user years later...
If Microsoft ever suspects Linux is a significant threat, they'll just buy out the largest players
So how exactly would they buy out something like, say, Debian or Ubuntu?
What always bothered me is MS's tendency to buy out the decent anti-virus companies that supported linux, which was shortly followed by those companies breaking up or dropping linux support.
Sometimes it takes one man to stand up, before others will support him. My hopes are that the rest of the senate will wake up and take this as an opportunity to take action and stand for what is right.
Forbid yes, get your cash back, no. Although technically you could sue them in claims court, perhaps this will make the process a bit smoother for the victim(s).
Personally, I'd like to see something that not only makes the identity-thieves culpable, but the companies that have allowed such identity theft to occur due to improper handling of sensitive private information...
Well, one positive outcome would be if they use it in testing of new products.
Allow this action? Yes
Allow this action? Yes
Allow this action? Yes Technician: Sir, the test-subject's EEG is spiking
Allow this action? Grrr, yes
Allow this action? Yes, damnit! Technician: He's red-lining sir! Cerebral reading critical Manager: Wow, so customer's really aren't happy with that feature. OK, scrap it and throw in some more eye-candy and perhaps a fluffy kitten or two Technician: Yes, sir!
Well, for one thing I've found it's nice just to be able to update options, etc without having to re-write over my boot-record every single time. Grub writes to the boot-record once, and - provided that you don't change the location of the config file/partition/etc - you can then just update the menu.lst file on the config partition without needing to reinstall the bootloader into the MBR with every new kernel or change.
I don't know about in the US, but up here the phone is sold with the same brand name as is available unlocked etc. So I sign up on a contract with the premise that I get a "Ultraphone X2321." Then I get the actual phone, and while it is in theory an X3221, they've mangled the firmware so that half the advertised features of the phone don't work properly. Maybe Wifi connections is disabled so I can't do VOIP on the smartphone. Maybe the ringtones can only be downloaded from provider's website (at a nice profit for them, of course).
The fact is that the phone was sold on false premises. The actual features of the model sold to you do not match those of what you get. Given the two aspects, the contract was therefore generated based on a false premis. I did not get an Ultraphone X2321, and therefore I did not get what was promised to me with my contract.
One of my favorites was the water-pump that was essentially a spiral "drill" type shape enclosed in a tube. As you rotate the drill, it water in the spirals would be moved upwards through the pipe and - eventually - out the spout at the top.
My understanding was that it's a lot better than many of the bucket+rope configurations used with wells.
Kids who actually use Linux actually end up liking it quite a bit (I should know, I work in schools). While I personally have not much use for it, Beryl and others present plenty of eye-candy. The available Linux games are actually quite fun, and increasingly more these days. The desktop is spiffy, and general tasks such as web-browsing etc are much the same as in windows.
Major lacks are - as always - hardware support, and moreover ease of configuration (of hardware and software). These are improving, and I'd say that configuring the desktop has improved noticeably over the past few years. Whether or not it's ready for the masses, I see no reason why Linux will not increase in popularity as we move into the future.
Well, for one thing there are definitely a lot of completely un-necessary changes that do nothing but confuse those already familiar with windows. For example, try to find the "Add / Remove programs" menu, which has been standard for about a decade. Oh, but wait, it's now called "Programs and Features." Is there such a distinction that there was *really* a need to change it?
As for the hardware use... I recently had the displeasure of servicing a computer that had 512MB of RAM, Vista Basic, and Norton Internet Security. It was fresh-out-of-the-box agonizingly slow to use. Killing norton off sped things up a bit, but that just bumped it from "agonizing" to merely "painful." Yes, this is partly the Vendor's fault, but one does have to wonder what exactly is adding value to Vista (especially Basic, which is non-aero) over XP that causes such a huge increase in resource consumption?
The major improvements to Vista don't seem to account for the time to get it developed, nor the faults with its release, nor the added resource consumption. In short, it's a pig.
That wasn't so much an issue to me as the huge lack of subtlety between going with the "light" or "dark" side of the force. A little more character-depth would have been nice, as well as more flex in the storyline depending on your alignments.
That's like saying that I was being more reasonable because I decided to smack you upside the head rather than hit you with a hammer... in the testicles.
It doesn't mean it was reasonable, it just means they took what they thought they could win on. There's a point where an increased amount means nothing. Would you rather be a million dollars in debt or a billion? For a single mother, 250k and a million a likely just as ruinous and un-payable.
Which still means more money for MS. You can't use any of your existing XP discs/licenses to install on the laptop because it only runs Vista (not that you get money back in most cases anyways). Moreover, as they are able to kill off XP, support for XP software will also die down... meaning that they can do the happy cycle of new-OS+old-apps-fail, old-apps-fail+buy-new-apps, new-apps-require-new-os+upgrade-other-machines.
MS's patents will simply come to light while patents do exist, they are not valid due to heaps of prior art, etc.
In this fight, they're against both a young and old generation of techs, programmers, etc that reaches back to remember "well, yeah, we did something that's more or less like that on Program X back in 1987, so prior art exists to this patent."
If MS started pulling up BS patents, you could probably count on your fingers the time until some enterprising geek setup a site which listed the patents and encouraged FOSS supporters to link or describe prior-art and other ways to invalidate them.
My father is looking to get a new laptop. Between various stores, I am already finding that support for XP has faded dangerously and noticeably. Sure, most new machines come (sadly) preloaded with Vista, but at least one could get the drivers online and re-image those suckers back to XP. From what I'm seeing now, there are NO XP drivers for a large portion of the newer laptops sold at common stores such as Future Shop or others. This applies to HP, Toshiba, and other major brands... a lookup of XP drivers on their website comes up with missing drivers: VGA but no Audio, Audio but no VGA, or no LAN, or nothing at all.
So XP is definitely on the way out, and despite what I had hoped was a good opposition from vendors against support its dog-meat, Vista is coming in. That means more sales for MS, and unfortunately, less pressure to stop pulling the same bs every product cycle. Vista adoption might be down, but anyone getting a new PC is likely going to be faced with getting it soon. Even if Linux becomes more popular, Vista is still the os-de-jour that comes with computers, and as it spreads out people will once again learn to simply put up with its stupid issues... because they don't see a choice.
Can one have a class-action style corporate lawsuits, wherein the affected companies (in this case Linux distributors) may pool legal resources for the purposes of being represented in a single case?
I think ebay loses out on this too, since I don't believe that they profit from the shipping fees amount (it's an expense). You can report sellers for unusually high-shipping, but the reports tool - like much of ebay these days - seems more or less useless as any auctions I've reported (keyword spamming, deliberate inserted in wrong section to gain more hits, overpriced shipping) don't seem to get the sellers or even the auctions in question knocked off. One would think that ebay would realize that these things == lose profit for them, but I guess it hasn't shown on their bottom line yet.
My big problem at the moment is with sellers who indicate shipping at price X (which seems vaguely reasonable), for example $15. Then, the item arrives in a $1 bubble-padded envelope and the seller pockets the rest. It especially pisses me off because I've had auctions wherein I underestimated the shipping when selling (winner in a far corner of the country that costs more than my blanket price) and lost cash on that, while almost every seller I see is taking in 40% of the shipping price as profit while skimping on the actual delivery.
Is there an allowance to get a case overturned/re-tried if there's evidence that the plaintiff did not fulfill their duty to the court (and the law)? It seems to me that if the RIAA lawyers were citing cases that were later overturned, and that this was the basis for the precedent that "making available" was valid as a form of distribution (and thus a key-point to the case), then it seems that the case may have very well gone the other way if the hadn't "cheated"
I run a domain (and the associated web/dns/mail/etc services), as well as a LAN-server mainly for the purpose of self-education. Along with this comes the fact that I run apps on it I wouldn't be willing to just install and trust in my work environment. I've had two incidents occur. One was when I made my squid proxy settings a little too open and ended up being used as an open-proxy, the other was when I allowed a friend access and he used his name for both the username/password (oops, time to install a requirement for hardened passwords).
The first time a few spams got through before I caught in. From the logs I figure it was, luckily, a rather small amount as they were just testing me out before the big barrage. The second time there was an attempt to install custom scripts, but whatever it was attempting to do was thwarted by the fact that there wasn't an explicit rule allowing outgoing connections on the required port (default deny is your friend).
More recently I've been working with things such as virtual-servers to segregate any potentially dangerous services, then have them regularly audited and check with tripwire, etc. Still, there are a lot of ways to hack a box, and a lot of ways to secure it, so learning new tricks is always a good thing.
I'd say it really depends on the individual. For myself, technology is a lifestyle, and as such I'm continually learning new things and (doing my best at) staying up-to-date. I know a lot of old hats at any jobs - and tech is a big one for this - that have the attitude of "this is the way it's always been" or have the assumption that "because of my experience, I know best." The problem is, that these individuals lose the will to learn, which can be death in the IT industry.
Where I work, a lot of the long-term techs, who were trained on Novell Netware, insist that it is better than the Linux systems being implemented. One in particular will take every opportunity to point at a server problem, or whatever, and say "this isn't an issue with Novell" (while completely ignoring that the issue might actually be user/admin-error, or that there were a host of *other* issues with the previous system). Now that Novell has gone to Linux that's quieted down a bit, but it still comes frighteningly close to email flamewars between her and the pro-linux techs. Personally I'm all for replacing the Novell boxen because they're old, cost licensing fees, and don't support newer hardware (in other words when the physical equipment fails, it's toast), but try to step to aside when the vitriol starts spewing back and worth. The fact is though, that people who were "trained with system X" are often unwilling to try "alternative Y."
In some cases this is good, because there are plenty of people that want to try "Y, Z, and A B C 1 2 3" and are constantly hopping on to new bandwagons. The voice of reason, and experience, can prevail indicating the need for solid cost/benefits analysis, infrastructure analysis, and transition plans. The voice of experience can organize, and has many skills to top off the technical ones.
So you have two contrasts here. The older, more experience admin that still has a strong cabinet of experience to offer the company VS the older, outdated admin who is fast in holding on to "what he knows" VS "what does the job best." You can have either one, or both in one package. I'm not sure which of these the gentleman in question was.
**Note: For simplicity I have used a masculine reference in this comment, apologies to all the female sysAdmins and techs out there. If you are under 30, single and cute, please accept this diamond ring and my proposal as apolo... er, I mean, have a nice day.
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Thunderbird works just fine (and a lot better than Outlook) for IMAP. When you go into settings to enable IMAP, there's a little link below that will detail for you how to use IMAP with gmail from common email apps (including Thunderbird).
:-)
The servers are:
imap.gmail.com
smtp.gmail.com
The username fields are:
yourusername@gmail.com
Once you've added a gmail account to thunderbird, you can add your other IMAP/POP3 accounts (if you haven't already), and drag+drop email between them and gmail.
Well, that's the theory anyhow. Right now the gmail IMAP server is a bit slow and won't actually let me in... probably being slashdotted
However, I've done the same between various POP3/IMAP accounts before (note that if you drag from IMAP to POP3 it won't appear on other machines with the same POP3 account, since mail in that format stores on the local machine).
I'm waiting to see the advertising on the next version of windows. I'll use your product name.
Update now to Windows Zenith Fuzzy Edition. Comes with free fluffy **kitten
**(ultra fine print) live kitten not guaranteed. State of decomposition depends on the time of packaging.
So what happens if you make up your own tags that look like the airline ones?
How exactly would they do this? Bill customers again? Charge it to a Visa (against the Visa terms I believe)? Taxes are usually pushed to the end-user... but it's pretty hard to collect from the end-user years later...
If Microsoft ever suspects Linux is a significant threat, they'll just buy out the largest players
So how exactly would they buy out something like, say, Debian or Ubuntu?
What always bothered me is MS's tendency to buy out the decent anti-virus companies that supported linux, which was shortly followed by those companies breaking up or dropping linux support.
Sometimes it takes one man to stand up, before others will support him. My hopes are that the rest of the senate will wake up and take this as an opportunity to take action and stand for what is right.
Forbid yes, get your cash back, no. Although technically you could sue them in claims court, perhaps this will make the process a bit smoother for the victim(s).
Personally, I'd like to see something that not only makes the identity-thieves culpable, but the companies that have allowed such identity theft to occur due to improper handling of sensitive private information...
Well, one positive outcome would be if they use it in testing of new products.
Allow this action? Yes
Allow this action? Yes
Allow this action? Yes
Technician: Sir, the test-subject's EEG is spiking Allow this action? Grrr, yes
Allow this action? Yes, damnit!
Technician: He's red-lining sir! Cerebral reading critical
Manager: Wow, so customer's really aren't happy with that feature. OK, scrap it and throw in some more eye-candy and perhaps a fluffy kitten or two
Technician: Yes, sir!
Well, for one thing I've found it's nice just to be able to update options, etc without having to re-write over my boot-record every single time. Grub writes to the boot-record once, and - provided that you don't change the location of the config file/partition/etc - you can then just update the menu.lst file on the config partition without needing to reinstall the bootloader into the MBR with every new kernel or change.
I don't know about in the US, but up here the phone is sold with the same brand name as is available unlocked etc. So I sign up on a contract with the premise that I get a "Ultraphone X2321." Then I get the actual phone, and while it is in theory an X3221, they've mangled the firmware so that half the advertised features of the phone don't work properly. Maybe Wifi connections is disabled so I can't do VOIP on the smartphone. Maybe the ringtones can only be downloaded from provider's website (at a nice profit for them, of course).
The fact is that the phone was sold on false premises. The actual features of the model sold to you do not match those of what you get. Given the two aspects, the contract was therefore generated based on a false premis. I did not get an Ultraphone X2321, and therefore I did not get what was promised to me with my contract.
One of my favorites was the water-pump that was essentially a spiral "drill" type shape enclosed in a tube. As you rotate the drill, it water in the spirals would be moved upwards through the pipe and - eventually - out the spout at the top.
My understanding was that it's a lot better than many of the bucket+rope configurations used with wells.
Kids who actually use Linux actually end up liking it quite a bit (I should know, I work in schools). While I personally have not much use for it, Beryl and others present plenty of eye-candy. The available Linux games are actually quite fun, and increasingly more these days. The desktop is spiffy, and general tasks such as web-browsing etc are much the same as in windows.
Major lacks are - as always - hardware support, and moreover ease of configuration (of hardware and software). These are improving, and I'd say that configuring the desktop has improved noticeably over the past few years. Whether or not it's ready for the masses, I see no reason why Linux will not increase in popularity as we move into the future.
Well, for one thing there are definitely a lot of completely un-necessary changes that do nothing but confuse those already familiar with windows. For example, try to find the "Add / Remove programs" menu, which has been standard for about a decade. Oh, but wait, it's now called "Programs and Features." Is there such a distinction that there was *really* a need to change it?
As for the hardware use... I recently had the displeasure of servicing a computer that had 512MB of RAM, Vista Basic, and Norton Internet Security. It was fresh-out-of-the-box agonizingly slow to use. Killing norton off sped things up a bit, but that just bumped it from "agonizing" to merely "painful." Yes, this is partly the Vendor's fault, but one does have to wonder what exactly is adding value to Vista (especially Basic, which is non-aero) over XP that causes such a huge increase in resource consumption?
The major improvements to Vista don't seem to account for the time to get it developed, nor the faults with its release, nor the added resource consumption. In short, it's a pig.
I've heard the Deny option taps a few 12V rails to send a nice arcing surge through the keyboard/mouse to silence the user..
That wasn't so much an issue to me as the huge lack of subtlety between going with the "light" or "dark" side of the force. A little more character-depth would have been nice, as well as more flex in the storyline depending on your alignments.
That's like saying that I was being more reasonable because I decided to smack you upside the head rather than hit you with a hammer... in the testicles.
It doesn't mean it was reasonable, it just means they took what they thought they could win on. There's a point where an increased amount means nothing. Would you rather be a million dollars in debt or a billion? For a single mother, 250k and a million a likely just as ruinous and un-payable.
Note the word "network". They are a trade organization - "America's Blood Centers" doesn't "provide" blood products - their members do
An organization is often representative of its members. See RIAA, MPAA
Not that this study shouldn't bear some thought, but it perhaps take it with a grain of salt.
Which still means more money for MS. You can't use any of your existing XP discs/licenses to install on the laptop because it only runs Vista (not that you get money back in most cases anyways). Moreover, as they are able to kill off XP, support for XP software will also die down... meaning that they can do the happy cycle of new-OS+old-apps-fail, old-apps-fail+buy-new-apps, new-apps-require-new-os+upgrade-other-machines.
MS's patents will simply come to light while patents do exist, they are not valid due to heaps of prior art, etc.
In this fight, they're against both a young and old generation of techs, programmers, etc that reaches back to remember "well, yeah, we did something that's more or less like that on Program X back in 1987, so prior art exists to this patent."
If MS started pulling up BS patents, you could probably count on your fingers the time until some enterprising geek setup a site which listed the patents and encouraged FOSS supporters to link or describe prior-art and other ways to invalidate them.
My father is looking to get a new laptop. Between various stores, I am already finding that support for XP has faded dangerously and noticeably. Sure, most new machines come (sadly) preloaded with Vista, but at least one could get the drivers online and re-image those suckers back to XP. From what I'm seeing now, there are NO XP drivers for a large portion of the newer laptops sold at common stores such as Future Shop or others. This applies to HP, Toshiba, and other major brands... a lookup of XP drivers on their website comes up with missing drivers: VGA but no Audio, Audio but no VGA, or no LAN, or nothing at all.
So XP is definitely on the way out, and despite what I had hoped was a good opposition from vendors against support its dog-meat, Vista is coming in. That means more sales for MS, and unfortunately, less pressure to stop pulling the same bs every product cycle. Vista adoption might be down, but anyone getting a new PC is likely going to be faced with getting it soon. Even if Linux becomes more popular, Vista is still the os-de-jour that comes with computers, and as it spreads out people will once again learn to simply put up with its stupid issues... because they don't see a choice.
Can one have a class-action style corporate lawsuits, wherein the affected companies (in this case Linux distributors) may pool legal resources for the purposes of being represented in a single case?
I think ebay loses out on this too, since I don't believe that they profit from the shipping fees amount (it's an expense). You can report sellers for unusually high-shipping, but the reports tool - like much of ebay these days - seems more or less useless as any auctions I've reported (keyword spamming, deliberate inserted in wrong section to gain more hits, overpriced shipping) don't seem to get the sellers or even the auctions in question knocked off. One would think that ebay would realize that these things == lose profit for them, but I guess it hasn't shown on their bottom line yet.
My big problem at the moment is with sellers who indicate shipping at price X (which seems vaguely reasonable), for example $15. Then, the item arrives in a $1 bubble-padded envelope and the seller pockets the rest. It especially pisses me off because I've had auctions wherein I underestimated the shipping when selling (winner in a far corner of the country that costs more than my blanket price) and lost cash on that, while almost every seller I see is taking in 40% of the shipping price as profit while skimping on the actual delivery.
Is there an allowance to get a case overturned/re-tried if there's evidence that the plaintiff did not fulfill their duty to the court (and the law)? It seems to me that if the RIAA lawyers were citing cases that were later overturned, and that this was the basis for the precedent that "making available" was valid as a form of distribution (and thus a key-point to the case), then it seems that the case may have very well gone the other way if the hadn't "cheated"
I run a domain (and the associated web/dns/mail/etc services), as well as a LAN-server mainly for the purpose of self-education. Along with this comes the fact that I run apps on it I wouldn't be willing to just install and trust in my work environment. I've had two incidents occur. One was when I made my squid proxy settings a little too open and ended up being used as an open-proxy, the other was when I allowed a friend access and he used his name for both the username/password (oops, time to install a requirement for hardened passwords).
The first time a few spams got through before I caught in. From the logs I figure it was, luckily, a rather small amount as they were just testing me out before the big barrage. The second time there was an attempt to install custom scripts, but whatever it was attempting to do was thwarted by the fact that there wasn't an explicit rule allowing outgoing connections on the required port (default deny is your friend).
More recently I've been working with things such as virtual-servers to segregate any potentially dangerous services, then have them regularly audited and check with tripwire, etc. Still, there are a lot of ways to hack a box, and a lot of ways to secure it, so learning new tricks is always a good thing.
I'd say it really depends on the individual. For myself, technology is a lifestyle, and as such I'm continually learning new things and (doing my best at) staying up-to-date. I know a lot of old hats at any jobs - and tech is a big one for this - that have the attitude of "this is the way it's always been" or have the assumption that "because of my experience, I know best." The problem is, that these individuals lose the will to learn, which can be death in the IT industry.
Where I work, a lot of the long-term techs, who were trained on Novell Netware, insist that it is better than the Linux systems being implemented. One in particular will take every opportunity to point at a server problem, or whatever, and say "this isn't an issue with Novell" (while completely ignoring that the issue might actually be user/admin-error, or that there were a host of *other* issues with the previous system). Now that Novell has gone to Linux that's quieted down a bit, but it still comes frighteningly close to email flamewars between her and the pro-linux techs. Personally I'm all for replacing the Novell boxen because they're old, cost licensing fees, and don't support newer hardware (in other words when the physical equipment fails, it's toast), but try to step to aside when the vitriol starts spewing back and worth. The fact is though, that people who were "trained with system X" are often unwilling to try "alternative Y."
In some cases this is good, because there are plenty of people that want to try "Y, Z, and A B C 1 2 3" and are constantly hopping on to new bandwagons. The voice of reason, and experience, can prevail indicating the need for solid cost/benefits analysis, infrastructure analysis, and transition plans. The voice of experience can organize, and has many skills to top off the technical ones.
So you have two contrasts here. The older, more experience admin that still has a strong cabinet of experience to offer the company VS the older, outdated admin who is fast in holding on to "what he knows" VS "what does the job best." You can have either one, or both in one package. I'm not sure which of these the gentleman in question was.
**Note: For simplicity I have used a masculine reference in this comment, apologies to all the female sysAdmins and techs out there. If you are under 30, single and cute, please accept this diamond ring and my proposal as apolo... er, I mean, have a nice day.