I never said we were living in some sort of "Golden Age". Instead I said that my opinions and experiences differ from yours. You have a prejudice against people who wear body jewelry based upon supposed medical grounds. You make the mistake of assuming that because they make a decision that you wouldn't, they must be inferior in some way. Don't worry, every one does it to some extent or another ity's called being human.
I would like to point out however that the ratio of posts regarding this topic have probably been half and half, and many of the anti posts have not been bothered about an earing but rather the more extremes of tongue/lip or genitalia.
I have to say that the last part of your post - to me anyway - reads as saying "Don't be different, stay the same as everyone else". Also it seems to try and push your opinion as simple fact rather than your interpretation, which may and in fact does differ from mine. I have this silly idea that tieing a length of cloth tighly around your neck is both a bad idea practically and symbolically.
I might also point out that "societys norm" tends to change over time. Thirty years ago an earing on a man would have been viewed the way you seem to view it, however time has moved on. Men wearing an earing are no longer assumed to be gay, nor are they assumed to be some killer on the run waiting to rape your virginal daughter.
You ask people to justify why they want to change their appearance, thats fine, however they also have the right to ask you to justify why they shouldn't.
I wear an stud and I find that it has no impact either way on my employment prospects, nor on how I interact with my clients and collegues.
But if the tat is going to prevent them getting a job how are they going to get the money to get the laser treatment? They'll have to turn to jacking cars and selling drugs!!
Tats lead to crime!!! Lock up your daughters!!! My god its the fifties all over again
No it's not a sign of maturity, it's a sign of conformity which is completely different. I have seen enough people in suits act worse than my two year old daughter.
Im sorry at what point did an earing become detrimental to the way a person works?
Please explain how a man wearing an earing interferes with the way he works, especially in an IT environment where there aren't that many wildly moving parts that might accidently snag the earing and rip his ear off?
You sound like the sort of person that would insist on people wearing a tie in everyday work as opposed to when meeting clients.
You know what, I cannot wait until you have kids of your own. When you hold your child for the first time a switch gets thrown that says you must protect them from all the ills in the world, whether its a scrape on the knee or its objectionable material in the media.
I have three kids, 7, 2 and six weeks old. My seven year old son is extremely bright, topping his classes, however I still have to vet what he watches and reads. Children are incredibly impressionable and while you may not want to end up with a social vegetable at the same time you do not want to end up with an adult who is numb from the neck up or worse.
Oh please, Carrie Fisher had more presence and believability than Portman any day. Sure Hamil wasn't exactly mister Oscar material but even he was better than the guy they go to play Anakin.
Because the "Free Market" works great until you add people to the mix. For exactly the same reason why Communism doesn't work, pure Capitalism will not work, basically people are bastards.
Fully briefed by whom? The same guys who were dead certain that Saddam Hussien had WMD, or maybe the guys who couldn't connect the dots to prevent 11/9.
This would be the same government who would quite happily lie through its teeth about "Children Overboard", or when handed evidence of a large Chinese spy ring operating in the country seem more concerned with placating the Chinese than getting to the bottom of the whole mess.
I hate to say it but Howard and Co are pretty much as morally corrupt as the Labor Government that sat on its hands while Indonesia invaded East Timor.
See I thought it was the "Scum of the Earth" who were sending the tapes. After seeing what credit card companies get up to, I am having trouble seeing the difference between them and a protection/extortion racket.
I think we can forgive the South Koreans being a little jittery about the North. Remember the North recently declared they now have nukes, and the war between north and south has not actually been declared over. Also the North appears to be run by a psychotic film buff with Short Angry Man syndrome.
Hell if I was the South I'ld be trying to keep everybodies attention as well.
With all due respect normal users wouldn't know a CPU if it bit them on the arse and then proceeded to blow them.
This is a geek site, where people who have an interest in this kind of thing tend to congregate and discuss/flame about technology. Normal users don't come here.
As to your point re TCP/IP, wired, wireless and fibre each have their own pros and cons so yes I do care.
So you have a viable alternative ready to go do you?
Also remember, most of the oil money in the middle east resides with a very small group leaving the rest of the region struggling, this is part of the reason why people in the middle east don't like americans, you preach democracy and freedom but you keep propping up despotic regimes such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq(in the early eighties).
There is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Just because she agreed to have the photos taken doesn't give her ex carte blanche to display the photos anywhere he wants.
It is a form of harrasment and shows that the ex has the maturity of some pimply faced thirteen year old.
Th tree laws look very nice and could work if human beings weren't human beings. People are conniving bastards and will find a way through anything, this is part of the reason why our laws are so convoluted.
According to the parent poster, so long as there was no direct damage to the neighbouring properties then anything you did would be fine.
The mere act of selling crack cocain or running a brothel does not imply that direct damage will be done to the neighbours.
Also in many areas prostitution is not illegal, rather it is regulated by local government.
Just remember under the Libertarian ideal, taking drugs would be perfectly legal right up until the time you piss off someone who can afford to pay the private police to lock you up.
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I never said we were living in some sort of "Golden Age". Instead I said that my opinions and experiences differ from yours. You have a prejudice against people who wear body jewelry based upon supposed medical grounds. You make the mistake of assuming that because they make a decision that you wouldn't, they must be inferior in some way. Don't worry, every one does it to some extent or another ity's called being human.
I would like to point out however that the ratio of posts regarding this topic have probably been half and half, and many of the anti posts have not been bothered about an earing but rather the more extremes of tongue/lip or genitalia.
I have to say that the last part of your post - to me anyway - reads as saying "Don't be different, stay the same as everyone else". Also it seems to try and push your opinion as simple fact rather than your interpretation, which may and in fact does differ from mine. I have this silly idea that tieing a length of cloth tighly around your neck is both a bad idea practically and symbolically.
I might also point out that "societys norm" tends to change over time. Thirty years ago an earing on a man would have been viewed the way you seem to view it, however time has moved on. Men wearing an earing are no longer assumed to be gay, nor are they assumed to be some killer on the run waiting to rape your virginal daughter.
You ask people to justify why they want to change their appearance, thats fine, however they also have the right to ask you to justify why they shouldn't.
I wear an stud and I find that it has no impact either way on my employment prospects, nor on how I interact with my clients and collegues.
Why? What is it about an earing that leads you to believe that their judgement might be suspect?
But if the tat is going to prevent them getting a job how are they going to get the money to get the laser treatment? They'll have to turn to jacking cars and selling drugs!!
Tats lead to crime!!! Lock up your daughters!!! My god its the fifties all over again
No it's not a sign of maturity, it's a sign of conformity which is completely different. I have seen enough people in suits act worse than my two year old daughter.
Im sorry at what point did an earing become detrimental to the way a person works?
Please explain how a man wearing an earing interferes with the way he works, especially in an IT environment where there aren't that many wildly moving parts that might accidently snag the earing and rip his ear off?
You sound like the sort of person that would insist on people wearing a tie in everyday work as opposed to when meeting clients.
Doc's too easy to modify, would probably be PDF or something like it.
You know what, I cannot wait until you have kids of your own. When you hold your child for the first time a switch gets thrown that says you must protect them from all the ills in the world, whether its a scrape on the knee or its objectionable material in the media.
I have three kids, 7, 2 and six weeks old. My seven year old son is extremely bright, topping his classes, however I still have to vet what he watches and reads. Children are incredibly impressionable and while you may not want to end up with a social vegetable at the same time you do not want to end up with an adult who is numb from the neck up or worse.
Umm, it could quite possibly be the words of my seven year old son. I am constantly being surprised by what he comes out with.
Oh please, Carrie Fisher had more presence and believability than Portman any day. Sure Hamil wasn't exactly mister Oscar material but even he was better than the guy they go to play Anakin.
Because the "Free Market" works great until you add people to the mix. For exactly the same reason why Communism doesn't work, pure Capitalism will not work, basically people are bastards.
I think the more important question would be, where did the American Bill of Rights go, it was around here somewhere, now there's just these scraps.
Fully briefed by whom? The same guys who were dead certain that Saddam Hussien had WMD, or maybe the guys who couldn't connect the dots to prevent 11/9.
This would be the same government who would quite happily lie through its teeth about "Children Overboard", or when handed evidence of a large Chinese spy ring operating in the country seem more concerned with placating the Chinese than getting to the bottom of the whole mess.
I hate to say it but Howard and Co are pretty much as morally corrupt as the Labor Government that sat on its hands while Indonesia invaded East Timor.
See I thought it was the "Scum of the Earth" who were sending the tapes. After seeing what credit card companies get up to, I am having trouble seeing the difference between them and a protection/extortion racket.
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Aaaaarrrggghh that cartoon so sucked dead dogs testicles. Completely fucked with the original comics.
[End TMNT Geek Mode]
I think we can forgive the South Koreans being a little jittery about the North. Remember the North recently declared they now have nukes, and the war between north and south has not actually been declared over. Also the North appears to be run by a psychotic film buff with Short Angry Man syndrome.
Hell if I was the South I'ld be trying to keep everybodies attention as well.
With all due respect normal users wouldn't know a CPU if it bit them on the arse and then proceeded to blow them.
This is a geek site, where people who have an interest in this kind of thing tend to congregate and discuss/flame about technology. Normal users don't come here.
As to your point re TCP/IP, wired, wireless and fibre each have their own pros and cons so yes I do care.
Would you find a giant turtle with four elephants on its back bearing the Discworld
Linus: Andrew, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Andrew Morton: I think so Linus, but where are we going to find a duck and a length of rubber hose at this time of night?
You're both mad I say. Nothing surpasses the comfort and power of the STEAM DRIVEN GUSSET!!!
So you have a viable alternative ready to go do you?
Also remember, most of the oil money in the middle east resides with a very small group leaving the rest of the region struggling, this is part of the reason why people in the middle east don't like americans, you preach democracy and freedom but you keep propping up despotic regimes such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq(in the early eighties).
There is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Just because she agreed to have the photos taken doesn't give her ex carte blanche to display the photos anywhere he wants.
It is a form of harrasment and shows that the ex has the maturity of some pimply faced thirteen year old.
Th tree laws look very nice and could work if human beings weren't human beings. People are conniving bastards and will find a way through anything, this is part of the reason why our laws are so convoluted.
According to the parent poster, so long as there was no direct damage to the neighbouring properties then anything you did would be fine.
The mere act of selling crack cocain or running a brothel does not imply that direct damage will be done to the neighbours.
Also in many areas prostitution is not illegal, rather it is regulated by local government.
Just remember under the Libertarian ideal, taking drugs would be perfectly legal right up until the time you piss off someone who can afford to pay the private police to lock you up.