You mean like HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax? Because they all offer Video On Demand here. Granted, I live in austin (one of TWCables testbeds), But I know they offer this elsewhere now. www.hbo.com/hboondemand/ for more info on HBO's. The problem is they don't offer the good stuff.
It's a slipperly slope that Theo fell down years ago.
Where do you draw the line of how long you wait? A day? A week? A month? As many months as it takes debian to ship with it? Once everyone's shipping with it, why announce it and make your product look bad? Why not keep it quiet since everyones shipping a patched version anyways? (See: Most major OpenBSD holes over the last 4 years)
I didn't RTFA, but ever since Passport came out I wondered why they would want to auth to a remote server when you could just auth to your key, then have your browser act as an agent(or forward to ssh-agent) and let the remote host auth via pubkey, exact way that works securely and easily for ssh.
The way my X11 is setup now all I have to do is startx, enter my password in ssh-askpass, then I can freely ssh to any server I want without entering a password. I can also ssh from there to another server, still passwordless, still based on my original authed key.
That, and you could always use both. UPS's are nice, but once they fail, wouldn't you like another few hours? (Especially on a cheap UPS where plugging a monitor into it will drain the battery in a few mins)
I havn't read the fucking article so I don't know if its possible, but the best use would be just using the battery as backup and having a fileserver that can last a few hours even in a power outage.
"On top of that, those "obsolete" cards haven't gotten any cheaper as new products usurp them. The 9800 I saw on the shelf last weekend still cost as much as when I bought mine a year ago. "
I've got a Riva TNT2 that still runs the latest drivers as this new $1k card. Still gets performance enhancements from newer drivers too. Not as often, but its not uncommon to see a few more fps after the occasional driver upgrade.
As for prices coming down, Nvidea GeForce FX 5200 AGP8X 128MB DDR is $60 on froogle. I'd say thats came down.
As for PC > Console argument, I'll ignore the HIGHLY important input argument (hrm, 80hz badly shaped ps2 controller whos battery life is unknown, or wired 8 button mouse that updates at 1000hz. Wonder which will be more precise. Alright fine, I didn't ignore it, I can't help myself.) More importantly though, What about custom content? I can think of only two games that have ever dominated the player market. QuakeWorld Team Fortress, and HalfLife CounterStrike. Neither would be possible on a console that assumes the end user is too stupid to make his own content (Game logic(mods), Sounds, Graphics, etc. All stuff customized regularly in a pc game).
". The kernel will only decrypt and forward the audio to the driver if it's SAP enabled, which means it agrees to prevent recording at the same time as playing. In other words, you can't do a "play and record simultaneously" attack using only software."
Never heard of or experienced that, but it sounds like something the DRMonkeys would do. Still can be evaded in software: Run your OS inside vmware, record loopback style on the host OS.
Or hack your drivers. All it takes is one hacked instance to unleash it. Look at piracy on the Sega Dreamcast-- In the original days, nobody knew how to rip it (I think the originals were done with a dreamcast dev box, then the hacked yamaha driver that would load the 1gb disks, then a custom app to run on your dreamcast to copy it over the network, but I digress). Even if joe college student doesn't have the cable, john scene-boy from RNS(just an example release group, all are equally capable) will have no problem getting around it, making it sound good, then pushing it to the affil sites early tuesday. Few days to trickle down to topsites, then usenet, then p2p, then joe college student has his free-as-in-no-drm copy.
Thats correct, but to put things in perspective for everyone else, PS/2 is 100hz standard, 200hz common for gamers (since the quake1 days). USB is 120hz standard, but most hardcore gamers up it to 500mhz, or for some of the newer mice, 1000hz.
80hz is one update per 12.5ms. Might be enough for tetris, not so much for a first person shooter.
OpenBSD is a common fallacy. Its security through elitism and egotism; people blindly follow theo with the assumption that if he says its secure, it might actually be secure. Theo has a habbit of never admitting to any exploit he doesnt have to, even if it means leaving everyone vuln. You can either grab a patch off an obsd mailing list for an exploit Theo denies, Or wait those "few months" for it to be silently rolled in to the main branch without theo ever mentioning a word about how everyone who doesnt upgrade to it is still vulnerable, or how long people had to remain vulnerable so he could keep his ego happy. It's been like this since the original "no exploits"(or whatever it was) days, back when he'd hide the ntalkd bug. Then as time went on and the exploits piled on, he had to slowly twist his words around like the marketing speak it is; adding clauses about only root exploits counting, only remote exploits, only in services enabled by default (Hello? Why claim to have audited the entire software tree if you'll disown _ANY_ fault for its insecurities?), etc. Luckily gobbles set him in his place with the ssh utup-theo exploit. If you won't accept blind marketing speak and denied insecurity from Microsoft, Why accept it from The o?
monopolies that havn't yet abused their power and are trying to take down the big evil are good. Like microsoft back in the late 80's taking down IBM.
Google might be good now*, but so was microsoft. so was IBM. so was apple. so was amazon, yahoo, ebay. They all turn eventually, and it will be a sad day when something as useful as google goes down the drain.
*(Debatable if you're a developer, what with their attempting to shoehorn you into a bad SOAP interface without near as many features as you could get parsing).
If your local public access sucks, your local public sucks. Move to austin and see how public tv is supposed to be done. Ol'Bitty/ClownTime is the best show on tv. Infowars would appeal to the yro.slashdot crowd (think timothy, but someone actually willing to go to jail to proove his point, rather than pushing OSDN ads), and tons of other obscure shows late at night worth watching. Then there's the austin music network, which is basicly public access but structured and playing music videos, but without just trying to sell what the riaa currently wants to push cd's of (They were playing Elvis and The Beatles last night, in the same request show as Mars Volta, a bunch of good local texas bands, RadioHead, and then even more obscure stuff.)
Who would you rather entertain you, someone who enjoys it or someone who wants to sell a product?
Is at http://catheadlabs.com/~semi/bashrc. Not really good for beginners, but it has some useful stuff (like automaticly resuming a screen session if one exists and you're not currently inside it), Some not so useful stuff (I have code to check identd of the ssh client logging in commented out), And then your standard aliases and settings. Still sort of a work in progress. I'd like to add on ssh agent checking and maybe some other stuff, but hopefully this will help someone.
LUFS is something you as the end user would (hopefully) not see. Its a backend driver in the linux kernel that lets you program your filesystem driver as an application rather than as part of the kernel, so that if it crashes it doesnt take anything with it. Right now you might even be running it, the captive-ntfs project uses it. You run the captive installer, it compiles the module and installs it on its own, then you mount ntfs with no hastle. Right now what I'm personally using it for is mounting an ftp so that I can cd to a local directory and launch mp3s with mplayer and have them play just like local files. Its really nice tech, just badly documented for end users(That passage you pasted is about as good as it gets, and I agree fully on it not explaining anything)
your 5mbit downstream pales in comparison to comcasts/ool's 10, or fios's 25. But none of that downstream will help you send files, which is what the 512k was referencing (your rr is probably 316 or somewhere around there)
As for what to send, Physics info works great, as thats what the story is about. For residential use, its all about p2p. When 10/10 is standard(VERY capped fiber) expect a nice p2p mounted filesystem, where instead of the traditional p2p process (search, trim results, download file, wait, watch/listen to file) it will be navigate filesystem, find what you want (probably sorted by metadata), watch it live, and store a cache of the file so as to not waste bandwidth when watching it again and so you can share it too. This could be done today on large lans (colleges, lan partys, etc), but noone has developed the tech. Using LUFS would make it pretty easy on linux, though for windows it will still be a pain, and no windows support cuts off a lot of potential files. Then theres always having the ability to up the density. We're already moving around hdtv divx for tvrips, but why not do full hdtv losslessly compressed if we had the bandwidth? divx is good enough to watch, but if you had the choice of getting rid of the pixelation on motion blur, why wouldnt you?
TV stations are really becoming irrelivant. Imagine if amature video ventures like The Broken, and the potential this has all start to take off. Now think future generation(or hack-modded) tivos/xboxes/cable boxes/whatever being able to automaticly subscribe for new shows when they come out just as easily as you could subscribe to a tivo season pass of something on cable. There will be no difference to the end user,and we'll all be better off. The downside of course is funding and publicity, but those arnt nearly as important if you're making a show to make a good show rather than to make money.
You only have to polute whats popular, and you don't even need the full file to polute, just the hash. I once had a small app that would collide crc32 for you, you just fed it a.sfv and it would generate random files that would match within a few seconds. you then could fxp it to your favorite topsite and watch it spread, getting couriers credits nuked and ruining reputations (of the site, those transfering, and the release group, depending on how fast you fake their after a pre)
Its not multiplayer or really online (nethack.alt.org aside), but it definately qualifies as a massive role playing game, and it not only has permadeath, but has stuff that will kill your high level character before you even have a chance to react. Of course it sucks to lose a good character, but without meaningful death you get people throwing their life away in an attempt to zerg something more powerful than them. Just look at diablo, you might be seriously outpowered mephisto, but as long as you can do more damage than it can self-heal by the time you get back, you'll kill him eventually. Even worse would be watching a game of team fortress where you'll die 12 times just trying to keep the flag alive moving it a few inches at a time. For the record, I enjoyed all the games I mentioned here, but if you want to play a role, unless that role is already undead dying should kill it. (Though that is an idea.. make death force you to live your life as a zombie/ghost/whatever, with the ability to still transfer your items to a live player, but no ability to really level or continue as you were)
I'd argue the hardware support. Linux still lacks standardized autodetection. In windows, you plug in a brand new logitech MX518 mouse and it works. Mousewheel works (and scrolls through text), Thumb buttons work (and go forward/back in explorer), etc. In linux, all that works are mouse1-3 and basic movement. When I first tried knoppix a few years back I thought this would change -- Finally a distro that can combine dmesg/lspci with some simple scripts to load drivers and produce a good working system. Few years later, and still nothing really uses it. Even a knoppix hd install ditches autodetection. Why should anyone have to sort through pages and pages of kernel config to enable support for their hardware that they probably don't even know what its listed as? For example, my concord eyeq easy. The chip inside is an se402. The epcam driver is compatible. A standard user doesn't know the chip inside their webcam and what other chips its driver-level compat with, they just know they have a webcam, if you're lucky they'll read the model name off. We're still a long ways off from good hardware support.
heheh. It was cracked before then, just didnt serve much use to distribute until the final game was out and could be tested with it. The methods of bypassing steam have been pretty similar since back when Condition Zero leaked with all the other mods -- HL SDK local steam server. Just needed a little tweaking to apply cleanly to hl2
Not that there isnt plenty of other ways to get aroun steam, thats just the easiest.
And all lan tournaments are done on provided(equal) machines/setups.
A skilled console FPS player is like a skilled punch the monkey banner clicker..theres not enough level of skill to be worth it. If everyones stuck with the same lowres ntsc and low precision input, then even the most skilled player is burdened to the same level as someone much less skilled than him. This works great for consoles because its how you convince your casual gamer friends to play against you, but thats not competition. Some pc games have this same problem, like the new version of CS (Source) where someone who just got the game for their 12th birthday can spray and pray and nail the guy whos been playing since cs-beta1.
I'm not saying I want to unfairly dominate/be dominated all day, just that it would be nice to have my own skill be why I lose, not enforced randomness or limitations.
And in bakeoffs they use ovens. Meanwhile us real FPS gamers will stick to our high precision input devices and let you guys have the game aim for you(We call that cheating, btw, but when its impossible to have any precision anyways..)
Joysticks are great for simple games. Playing tetris with a keyboard is a pain, even worse is playing a fighter or even a side scroller. But playing a FPS game with a joystick leads to very impercise aiming (Compare any controller to an mx1000 or razer diamondback) and bulky functionality, eg having to scroll through weapons with only two keys instead of binding different keys for different weapons.
Equally bad is trying to play an RTS game with a joystick. You need to easily be able to highlight a group of units instantly and accurately, then slap one of your dozens(including modifier keys) of micromanagement hotkeys. On a joystick you'd never get anything done.
Leave consoles for toying around and PCs for real competition.
The lack of hardware support someone else mentioned is one thing, and just having to change your plans is another -- Lets say you were reading slashdot a week or so ago and read the story about a new blackbox version. You saw the screenshots of the pretty AA fonts and it generally looks worth the upgrade. So you hit apt. Hmm, Apt still is at 0.65 as of the time of this writing, guess I'll have to wait a few months, or compile from scratch.
Same is true for x.org(Which is needed for proper ati dual headed support), and a number of other packages.
I still prefer debian over all other distros, but if they don't get their act together I'm atleast going to switch to a more modern fork for the desktop.
He's not a hacker, he's a spammer. He's posting here to help his pagerank, and throwing it in useragent gets him linked on random public web stats pages. It's all about pagerank.
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You mean like HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax? Because they all offer Video On Demand here. Granted, I live in austin (one of TWCables testbeds), But I know they offer this elsewhere now.
www.hbo.com/hboondemand/ for more info on HBO's. The problem is they don't offer the good stuff.
It's a slipperly slope that Theo fell down years ago.
Where do you draw the line of how long you wait? A day? A week? A month? As many months as it takes debian to ship with it?
Once everyone's shipping with it, why announce it and make your product look bad? Why not keep it quiet since everyones shipping a patched version anyways? (See: Most major OpenBSD holes over the last 4 years)
I didn't RTFA, but ever since Passport came out I wondered why they would want to auth to a remote server when you could just auth to your key, then have your browser act as an agent(or forward to ssh-agent) and let the remote host auth via pubkey, exact way that works securely and easily for ssh.
The way my X11 is setup now all I have to do is startx, enter my password in ssh-askpass, then I can freely ssh to any server I want without entering a password. I can also ssh from there to another server, still passwordless, still based on my original authed key.
That, and you could always use both. UPS's are nice, but once they fail, wouldn't you like another few hours? (Especially on a cheap UPS where plugging a monitor into it will drain the battery in a few mins)
I havn't read the fucking article so I don't know if its possible, but the best use would be just using the battery as backup and having a fileserver that can last a few hours even in a power outage.
"On top of that, those "obsolete" cards haven't gotten any cheaper as new products usurp them. The 9800 I saw on the shelf last weekend still cost as much as when I bought mine a year ago.
"
I've got a Riva TNT2 that still runs the latest drivers as this new $1k card. Still gets performance enhancements from newer drivers too. Not as often, but its not uncommon to see a few more fps after the occasional driver upgrade.
As for prices coming down, Nvidea GeForce FX 5200 AGP8X 128MB DDR is $60 on froogle. I'd say thats came down.
As for PC > Console argument, I'll ignore the HIGHLY important input argument (hrm, 80hz badly shaped ps2 controller whos battery life is unknown, or wired 8 button mouse that updates at 1000hz. Wonder which will be more precise. Alright fine, I didn't ignore it, I can't help myself.)
More importantly though, What about custom content? I can think of only two games that have ever dominated the player market. QuakeWorld Team Fortress, and HalfLife CounterStrike. Neither would be possible on a console that assumes the end user is too stupid to make his own content (Game logic(mods), Sounds, Graphics, etc. All stuff customized regularly in a pc game).
We just got done upgrading our kernel, except we upgraded to 2.6.11.10e Log-2.6.11.10
Changelog: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/Chang
". The kernel will only decrypt and forward the audio to the driver if it's SAP enabled, which means it agrees to prevent recording at the same time as playing. In other words, you can't do a "play and record simultaneously" attack using only software."
Never heard of or experienced that, but it sounds like something the DRMonkeys would do. Still can be evaded in software: Run your OS inside vmware, record loopback style on the host OS.
Or hack your drivers. All it takes is one hacked instance to unleash it. Look at piracy on the Sega Dreamcast-- In the original days, nobody knew how to rip it (I think the originals were done with a dreamcast dev box, then the hacked yamaha driver that would load the 1gb disks, then a custom app to run on your dreamcast to copy it over the network, but I digress). Even if joe college student doesn't have the cable, john scene-boy from RNS(just an example release group, all are equally capable) will have no problem getting around it, making it sound good, then pushing it to the affil sites early tuesday. Few days to trickle down to topsites, then usenet, then p2p, then joe college student has his free-as-in-no-drm copy.
Thats correct, but to put things in perspective for everyone else, PS/2 is 100hz standard, 200hz common for gamers (since the quake1 days).
USB is 120hz standard, but most hardcore gamers up it to 500mhz, or for some of the newer mice, 1000hz.
80hz is one update per 12.5ms. Might be enough for tetris, not so much for a first person shooter.
OpenBSD is a common fallacy. Its security through elitism and egotism; people blindly follow theo with the assumption that if he says its secure, it might actually be secure. Theo has a habbit of never admitting to any exploit he doesnt have to, even if it means leaving everyone vuln. You can either grab a patch off an obsd mailing list for an exploit Theo denies, Or wait those "few months" for it to be silently rolled in to the main branch without theo ever mentioning a word about how everyone who doesnt upgrade to it is still vulnerable, or how long people had to remain vulnerable so he could keep his ego happy.
It's been like this since the original "no exploits"(or whatever it was) days, back when he'd hide the ntalkd bug. Then as time went on and the exploits piled on, he had to slowly twist his words around like the marketing speak it is; adding clauses about only root exploits counting, only remote exploits, only in services enabled by default (Hello? Why claim to have audited the entire software tree if you'll disown _ANY_ fault for its insecurities?), etc. Luckily gobbles set him in his place with the ssh
utup-theo exploit.
If you won't accept blind marketing speak and denied insecurity from Microsoft, Why accept it from The
o?
monopolies that havn't yet abused their power and are trying to take down the big evil are good. Like microsoft back in the late 80's taking down IBM.
Google might be good now*, but so was microsoft. so was IBM. so was apple. so was amazon, yahoo, ebay. They all turn eventually, and it will be a sad day when something as useful as google goes down the drain.
*(Debatable if you're a developer, what with their attempting to shoehorn you into a bad SOAP interface without near as many features as you could get parsing).
If your local public access sucks, your local public sucks. Move to austin and see how public tv is supposed to be done. Ol'Bitty/ClownTime is the best show on tv. Infowars would appeal to the yro.slashdot crowd (think timothy, but someone actually willing to go to jail to proove his point, rather than pushing OSDN ads), and tons of other obscure shows late at night worth watching. Then there's the austin music network, which is basicly public access but structured and playing music videos, but without just trying to sell what the riaa currently wants to push cd's of (They were playing Elvis and The Beatles last night, in the same request show as Mars Volta, a bunch of good local texas bands, RadioHead, and then even more obscure stuff.)
Who would you rather entertain you, someone who enjoys it or someone who wants to sell a product?
Unless it supports WakeOnLan..
Is at http://catheadlabs.com/~semi/bashrc.
Not really good for beginners, but it has some useful stuff (like automaticly resuming a screen session if one exists and you're not currently inside it), Some not so useful stuff (I have code to check identd of the ssh client logging in commented out), And then your standard aliases and settings.
Still sort of a work in progress. I'd like to add on ssh agent checking and maybe some other stuff, but hopefully this will help someone.
LUFS is something you as the end user would (hopefully) not see. Its a backend driver in the linux kernel that lets you program your filesystem driver as an application rather than as part of the kernel, so that if it crashes it doesnt take anything with it. Right now you might even be running it, the captive-ntfs project uses it. You run the captive installer, it compiles the module and installs it on its own, then you mount ntfs with no hastle.
Right now what I'm personally using it for is mounting an ftp so that I can cd to a local directory and launch mp3s with mplayer and have them play just like local files. Its really nice tech, just badly documented for end users(That passage you pasted is about as good as it gets, and I agree fully on it not explaining anything)
your 5mbit downstream pales in comparison to comcasts/ool's 10, or fios's 25. But none of that downstream will help you send files, which is what the 512k was referencing (your rr is probably 316 or somewhere around there)
As for what to send, Physics info works great, as thats what the story is about. For residential use, its all about p2p.
When 10/10 is standard(VERY capped fiber) expect a nice p2p mounted filesystem, where instead of the traditional p2p process (search, trim results, download file, wait, watch/listen to file) it will be navigate filesystem, find what you want (probably sorted by metadata), watch it live, and store a cache of the file so as to not waste bandwidth when watching it again and so you can share it too.
This could be done today on large lans (colleges, lan partys, etc), but noone has developed the tech. Using LUFS would make it pretty easy on linux, though for windows it will still be a pain, and no windows support cuts off a lot of potential files.
Then theres always having the ability to up the density. We're already moving around hdtv divx for tvrips, but why not do full hdtv losslessly compressed if we had the bandwidth? divx is good enough to watch, but if you had the choice of getting rid of the pixelation on motion blur, why wouldnt you?
TV stations are really becoming irrelivant. Imagine if amature video ventures like The Broken, and the potential this has all start to take off. Now think future generation(or hack-modded) tivos/xboxes/cable boxes/whatever being able to automaticly subscribe for new shows when they come out just as easily as you could subscribe to a tivo season pass of something on cable. There will be no difference to the end user,and we'll all be better off.
The downside of course is funding and publicity, but those arnt nearly as important if you're making a show to make a good show rather than to make money.
You only have to polute whats popular, and you don't even need the full file to polute, just the hash. .sfv and it would generate random files that would match within a few seconds. you then could fxp it to your favorite topsite and watch it spread, getting couriers credits nuked and ruining reputations (of the site, those transfering, and the release group, depending on how fast you fake their after a pre)
I once had a small app that would collide crc32 for you, you just fed it a
(sorry if this posted twice, lynx is being odd)
Its not multiplayer or really online (nethack.alt.org aside), but it definately qualifies as a massive role playing game, and it not only has permadeath, but has stuff that will kill your high level character before you even have a chance to react. Of course it sucks to lose a good character, but without meaningful death you get people throwing their life away in an attempt to zerg something more powerful than them. Just look at diablo, you might be seriously outpowered mephisto, but as long as you can do more damage than it can self-heal by the time you get back, you'll kill him eventually. Even worse would be watching a game of team fortress where you'll die 12 times just trying to keep the flag alive moving it a few inches at a time.
For the record, I enjoyed all the games I mentioned here, but if you want to play a role, unless that role is already undead dying should kill it. (Though that is an idea.. make death force you to live your life as a zombie/ghost/whatever, with the ability to still transfer your items to a live player, but no ability to really level or continue as you were)
I'd argue the hardware support. Linux still lacks standardized autodetection.
In windows, you plug in a brand new logitech MX518 mouse and it works. Mousewheel works (and scrolls through text), Thumb buttons work (and go forward/back in explorer), etc.
In linux, all that works are mouse1-3 and basic movement.
When I first tried knoppix a few years back I thought this would change -- Finally a distro that can combine dmesg/lspci with some simple scripts to load drivers and produce a good working system. Few years later, and still nothing really uses it. Even a knoppix hd install ditches autodetection.
Why should anyone have to sort through pages and pages of kernel config to enable support for their hardware that they probably don't even know what its listed as? For example, my concord eyeq easy. The chip inside is an se402. The epcam driver is compatible. A standard user doesn't know the chip inside their webcam and what other chips its driver-level compat with, they just know they have a webcam, if you're lucky they'll read the model name off. We're still a long ways off from good hardware support.
heheh. It was cracked before then, just didnt serve much use to distribute until the final game was out and could be tested with it. The methods of bypassing steam have been pretty similar since back when Condition Zero leaked with all the other mods -- HL SDK local steam server. Just needed a little tweaking to apply cleanly to hl2
Not that there isnt plenty of other ways to get aroun steam, thats just the easiest.
And all lan tournaments are done on provided(equal) machines/setups.
A skilled console FPS player is like a skilled punch the monkey banner clicker..theres not enough level of skill to be worth it. If everyones stuck with the same lowres ntsc and low precision input, then even the most skilled player is burdened to the same level as someone much less skilled than him. This works great for consoles because its how you convince your casual gamer friends to play against you, but thats not competition. Some pc games have this same problem, like the new version of CS (Source) where someone who just got the game for their 12th birthday can spray and pray and nail the guy whos been playing since cs-beta1.
I'm not saying I want to unfairly dominate/be dominated all day, just that it would be nice to have my own skill be why I lose, not enforced randomness or limitations.
And in bakeoffs they use ovens. Meanwhile us real FPS gamers will stick to our high precision input devices and let you guys have the game aim for you(We call that cheating, btw, but when its impossible to have any precision anyways..)
Joysticks are great for simple games. Playing tetris with a keyboard is a pain, even worse is playing a fighter or even a side scroller. But playing a FPS game with a joystick leads to very impercise aiming (Compare any controller to an mx1000 or razer diamondback) and bulky functionality, eg having to scroll through weapons with only two keys instead of binding different keys for different weapons.
Equally bad is trying to play an RTS game with a joystick. You need to easily be able to highlight a group of units instantly and accurately, then slap one of your dozens(including modifier keys) of micromanagement hotkeys. On a joystick you'd never get anything done.
Leave consoles for toying around and PCs for real competition.
The lack of hardware support someone else mentioned is one thing, and just having to change your plans is another -- Lets say you were reading slashdot a week or so ago and read the story about a new blackbox version. You saw the screenshots of the pretty AA fonts and it generally looks worth the upgrade. So you hit apt.
Hmm, Apt still is at 0.65 as of the time of this writing, guess I'll have to wait a few months, or compile from scratch.
Same is true for x.org(Which is needed for proper ati dual headed support), and a number of other packages.
I still prefer debian over all other distros, but if they don't get their act together I'm atleast going to switch to a more modern fork for the desktop.
He's not a hacker, he's a spammer. He's posting here to help his pagerank, and throwing it in useragent gets him linked on random public web stats pages. It's all about pagerank.