Since he's made his military service the centerpiece of his credentials as a war-monger, we can resonably ask questions about it and expect answers. Dispite the Swift Boat Vets and dispite other questions about his service, Sen. Kerry has not released all of his service records. In fact, his original discharge papers have never been released.
So the question is then this:
Senator Kerry, was your original discharge honorable?
Now, stop and wonder for a moment as to why Sen. Kerry is no longer giving interviews. What does he have to hide?
What does this have to do with the DMCA? Little, on the face of it. However, if he can't answer a direct question about his own history, how can we expect him to answer a question like this?
Note: please don't mention Bush in your reply. This has abosolutly nothing to do with him. If you want to attack Bush, do it in another thread, please.
I am not a troll, dumbass, I am a Python developer.
This is doubtful given your apparent misunderstanding and your inability to admit that you were wrong. Maybe *your* app starts slow because it's written poorly.
Sorry to admit that there might actually be problems with your Holy Grail.
Python has its fair share of problems, but slow startup time is not one of them.
Write an actual program that actual people use and see how many of them complain about how slow it starts up before calling others trolls.
Does it count if I write an in-actual program for actual people? Or if I write an actual program for in-actual people? What if it's an in-actual program for in-actual people? Can I still complain?
Software, on the other hand is information, which desperately wants to be free.
I don't think you know the full quote, of which you've only given half. The complete version, most often attributed to Stewart Brand reads thus:
On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other.
Which changes your argument significantly, I think.
There are millions of people around the world developing for it.
I agree with your sentiment. I use linux daily (posting from konqi on gentoo). But I have a hard time believing there are at least two million folks world wide that are "developing" for linux. Maybe a few hundred thousand, but I can't fathom two million or more.
If you have a source to back up your claim, please post it. TIA.
Also I really like how functions are first class objects (meaning you can pass them to/return them from functions)
And classes too.
Yes, absolutely. First-class functions and types is one of the most important hallmarks of a good, usable language. Not being able to pass around classes or functions would severely limit how most of my solution sets are defined. Personally, I won't consider languages that don't offer this.
It is a slippery slope. First you decide you don't want us looking at child porn.
Actually, IIRC, the logical fallacy is to argue that there is a slippery slope instead of defeating the original argument. (My formal logic is very rusty, please forgive me if I've misspoken on this).
Downloading a picture of it, I don't see anything wrong with that.
Hogwash. It's illegal because it's participating in another crime -- namely the production of child porn. It's no different from taking the picture yourself, or no different than seeing it take place and doing nothing to stop it -- in all cases you're an accomplice (IMO, IANAL, etc.)
but it's not my job to tell other people what's right and wrong.
Really? So it's okay if I murder you, because it's not your job to tell me not to? Or if I rob your house, it's okay if I really need the money? My word, that's why we *have* laws -- to tell people what we (society) will not accept certain behavior.
Look at a person like Bush - apparently his thinking has been something like this:
Get baptised [sic] or 'born again' or whatever is the cheap and easy way. Now you're a good person - a 'Christian' full of the Holy Ghost.
It sounds to me like you hate Bush and are working backwards from that to deem his faith lacking or in some way not sincere. You also seem to be working from the specific to the general, which is sometimes called a Fallacy.
My guess is that you already hate Christians or Christianity, because later you say this:
you can be a hedonist and highly moral, you can be a Muslem [sic] or a Communist and highly moral; whether you can be a Christian and highly moral is another question, which I can't answer, since I'm not one.
So your logic is:
hedonist == Potentially Moral Muslim == Potentially Moral Communist == Potentially Moral Christian == Unknown because you're not one
So either you actually are a hedonist-Muslim-Communist and you can attest to all of them, or (perhaps more likely) you don't really understand Christianity, but realize full well that it's okay to vilify and hate the religion in the USA. My guess is the later, but either way... whatever... your assertions are baseless. But don't let logic stop you from posting to./ !!
I know what you mean. Just yesterday, someone (probably an evil Republican) ran over my cat. As I was sobbing, all I could thing was "it must be Bush's fault!"
I'm always amazed at the creativity that the Bush administration shows.
What's most amazing to me is how Bush went from a mere puppet of the VP to an evil mastermind in only 9 months. It just goes to show that the evil Republicans keep all the best schools for themselves.
but the proliferation of Linux (especially in the desktop arena) does depend a great deal on interoperability (Samba for instance)
That's a bad example, I think. I don't follow samba closely, but I have the general notion that (A) Samba has been implemented without any documentation from MS, and (B) the Samba team generally have a better understanding of the behavior of the MS samba stack than do Microsoft programmers.
We don't need 100 distros. Damn, we don't even need 10.
Yes, we do need them.
The thing you're missing is (as Agent Smith would say) purpose. Many of these distros exist purely because they meet a specific purpose. For example, there are distros used for desktop computers, distros for firewalls, distros for embedded devices, distros for clustering, distros for servers, etc.
Put another way: choice is good!
Now, had you said "we don't need 100's of desktop distros" I might have agreed.
$50 per license is more than fair.
Is it fair to the guy who pays full retail price because he's honest?
Is it fair to the teacher in a developing country who gets less than US$50 a month in salary?
Since he's made his military service the centerpiece of his credentials as a war-monger, we can resonably ask questions about it and expect answers. Dispite the Swift Boat Vets and dispite other questions about his service, Sen. Kerry has not released all of his service records. In fact, his original discharge papers have never been released.
So the question is then this:
Senator Kerry, was your original discharge honorable?
Now, stop and wonder for a moment as to why Sen. Kerry is no longer giving interviews. What does he have to hide?
What does this have to do with the DMCA? Little, on the face of it. However, if he can't answer a direct question about his own history, how can we expect him to answer a question like this?
Note: please don't mention Bush in your reply. This has abosolutly nothing to do with him. If you want to attack Bush, do it in another thread, please.
I am not a troll, dumbass, I am a Python developer.
This is doubtful given your apparent misunderstanding and your inability to admit that you were wrong. Maybe *your* app starts slow because it's written poorly.
Sorry to admit that there might actually be problems with your Holy Grail.
Python has its fair share of problems, but slow startup time is not one of them.
Write an actual program that actual people use and see how many of them complain about how slow it starts up before calling others trolls.
Does it count if I write an in-actual program for actual people? Or if I write an actual program for in-actual people? What if it's an in-actual program for in-actual people? Can I still complain?
Software, on the other hand is information, which desperately wants to be free.
I don't think you know the full quote, of which you've only given half. The complete version, most often attributed to Stewart Brand reads thus:
On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other.
Which changes your argument significantly, I think.
Hm. I see python used in CGI scripts, but never java. So instead of guessing, why don't we try go gather data, shall we?So there we have it - you're wrong and your message was probably just a troll.
There are millions of people around the world developing for it.
I agree with your sentiment. I use linux daily (posting from konqi on gentoo). But I have a hard time believing there are at least two million folks world wide that are "developing" for linux. Maybe a few hundred thousand, but I can't fathom two million or more.
If you have a source to back up your claim, please post it. TIA.
BTW, I agree that it's amazing.
Also I really like how functions are first class objects (meaning you can pass them to/return them from functions)
And classes too.
Yes, absolutely. First-class functions and types is one of the most important hallmarks of a good, usable language. Not being able to pass around classes or functions would severely limit how most of my solution sets are defined. Personally, I won't consider languages that don't offer this.
I've been thinking.. and this is the 5th instance of this..
Don't worry, thinking gets easier! Some people have thunk 10, maybe even 20 times in their lives.
Who is this "they" of whom you speak?
the most wise programmer I ever spoke to (my father) thinks MI is not such a good idea.
Wise tho he may be, the need for MI is best explained this way:
Multiple Inheritance is like an emergency parachute. Almost all of the time, you don't need it. But when you do need it, you really need it!
It is a slippery slope. First you decide you don't want us looking at child porn.
Actually, IIRC, the logical fallacy is to argue that there is a slippery slope instead of defeating the original argument. (My formal logic is very rusty, please forgive me if I've misspoken on this).
Downloading a picture of it, I don't see anything wrong with that.
Hogwash. It's illegal because it's participating in another crime -- namely the production of child porn. It's no different from taking the picture yourself, or no different than seeing it take place and doing nothing to stop it -- in all cases you're an accomplice (IMO, IANAL, etc.)
but it's not my job to tell other people what's right and wrong.
Really? So it's okay if I murder you, because it's not your job to tell me not to? Or if I rob your house, it's okay if I really need the money? My word, that's why we *have* laws -- to tell people what we (society) will not accept certain behavior.
Look at a person like Bush - apparently his thinking has been something like this:
./ !!
Get baptised [sic] or 'born again' or whatever is the cheap and easy way. Now you're a good person - a 'Christian' full of the Holy Ghost.
It sounds to me like you hate Bush and are working backwards from that to deem his faith lacking or in some way not sincere. You also seem to be working from the specific to the general, which is sometimes called a Fallacy.
My guess is that you already hate Christians or Christianity, because later you say this:
you can be a hedonist and highly moral, you can be a Muslem [sic] or a Communist and highly moral; whether you can be a Christian and highly moral is another question, which I can't answer, since I'm not one.
So your logic is:
hedonist == Potentially Moral
Muslim == Potentially Moral
Communist == Potentially Moral
Christian == Unknown because you're not one
So either you actually are a hedonist-Muslim-Communist and you can attest to all of them, or (perhaps more likely) you don't really understand Christianity, but realize full well that it's okay to vilify and hate the religion in the USA. My guess is the later, but either way... whatever... your assertions are baseless. But don't let logic stop you from posting to
I know what you mean. Just yesterday, someone (probably an evil Republican) ran over my cat. As I was sobbing, all I could thing was "it must be Bush's fault!"
I'm always amazed at the creativity that the Bush administration shows.
What's most amazing to me is how Bush went from a mere puppet of the VP to an evil mastermind in only 9 months. It just goes to show that the evil Republicans keep all the best schools for themselves.
1. java is teh suck! 2. it does, and with hot grits! 3. imagine them in your pants! 4. karma whore! 5. so is cowboy neal! 6. java is teh suck!
Makes sense. Thanks!
but the proliferation of Linux (especially in the desktop arena) does depend a great deal on interoperability (Samba for instance)
That's a bad example, I think. I don't follow samba closely, but I have the general notion that (A) Samba has been implemented without any documentation from MS, and (B) the Samba team generally have a better understanding of the behavior of the MS samba stack than do Microsoft programmers.
Next?
Oops -- wrong link. Correct link is here.
The story to which you refer can be found (in part) here.
But the story of Joshua at Jericho has absolutely nothing to do with Moses.
Could you site book, chapter, and verse, please? Or is this just Bible FUD?
No dice here.
.exe... it just fails, silently.
$ cedega --version
Cedega 4.0-1
The install goes okay, but cedega won't start the
Google gives just about nothing, as does the transgaming site and forums. So, it looks like no.
But I'd love to hear otherwise!
As attributed to the "Web and Design Specialist, Government" at http://www.userinstinct.com/viewpost.php?postid=kd e33review&page=10:
"So this is UNIX? I like it. I'd totally use it. As long as I could use Photoshop"
Should we clap or cry? Dunno, but it's progress.
There are Python bindings. They are here. Enjoy!
We don't need 100 distros. Damn, we don't even need 10.
Yes, we do need them.
The thing you're missing is (as Agent Smith would say) purpose. Many of these distros exist purely because they meet a specific purpose. For example, there are distros used for desktop computers, distros for firewalls, distros for embedded devices, distros for clustering, distros for servers, etc.
Put another way: choice is good!
Now, had you said "we don't need 100's of desktop distros" I might have agreed.
And the answer is cheap! You should view the namesys.com support page:
$25 gets you an answer to a question about anything.
BTW, I'd like to know the answer, too. Could you go pay and ask the question, then come back and tell us all the answer?
When my son was 2 (now 3) he used to say "ew, windows is icky!" when mommy's computer booted up.
:D
Now, when ever he sees a penguin, he says "tux is cool!"
Brainwashing is one of the greatest joys of parenthood.