Correct. He should have taken up the matter in civil court, rather than trying to extort money from the sheriff's department. He might have gotten an attorney to work for contingency, rather than have to hire a defense attorney (who generally charges by the hour).
And another highly misleading headline. "Compensation for Bandwidth Costs is Extortion?" is a real twisting of the reported facts, even if the webguy's claims are reasonable (They aren't). His actions certainly are not reasonable.
1) When all is said and done, I don't think that SCO will have really done much damage to Linux (or by extension, the GPL). When all this started, the more far-sighted among us said this would be a great test case for the GPL. As SCO's smoke and mirrors have been pierced and as the various cases have developed, however, this has not been about the GPL. It's all been FUD. Most of us have known this for a while, but now EVERYONE knows it. If anything, Linux has gained strength, if this is the best that it's enemies can do.
2) This potentially hugely damaging to MS. If the allegations are true (I'd put money on it), they're in breach of the settlements. Kollar-Kotelly, the judge of the punishment phase, will certainly want to take another look at the case. The various state Attorney Generals will want to reopen the case. There might also be new criminal charges filed, not to mention civil cases. At the very least, we should see some investigations. And I haven't even mentioned how this might play out internationally.
3) Regardless of how this plays out in the courts, MS is going to lose big in the court of public opinion. The MS defenders will not have a leg to stand on. (I never imagined Enderle with any legs. Instead, I've always imagined him as a giant farting ass, with no other body parts attached.) The FUD campaign has not only fallen apart, it has backfired.
4) Having failed to really slow Linux adoption or development, MS will continue to lose ground. Longhorn is two or more years out, folks are already suspicious about "XP Reloaded" (why name a product after a really bad sequel?), and Linux clearly has huge momentum.
Don't look know, but SCO has confirmed that ESR's leaked memo linking MS to the Baystar deal is real, although they claim that the memo's meaning is being misinterpreted and that the author of the memo didn't understand the situation. Right.
Correct. In fact, if he is who he says he is, I guarantee that he will be part of the case, if it gets that far. He didn't open himself up to anything.
Actually, it's not that random. Autozone has been already mentioned in the IBM case, along with Sherwin Williams (paint). I believe it was in a supplemental answer to IBM's interrogatory #8, but I can't check at the moment, because I am having trouble accessing the groklaw site.
Not exactly true. When buyers outnumber sellers, the stock price goes up, increasing a company's valuation. This is good for shareholders and the company (not to mention execs.)
I've already written Steve Odland, the Chairman and CEO of Autozone. Here's what I wrote:
Dear Mr. Odland,
Like your company, I am a Linux user, and am pleased to know that you have chosen Linux as part of your company's IT infrastructure. What a suprise to learn this morning that Autozone is in the crosshairs of SCO Group! I have no advice to impart, only words of encouragement. Give 'em hell!
The help and support I can offer is minor, but I hope it will also be encouraging in a humble way. Henceforth I will use Autozone for all my automotive needs and recommend Autozone to my friends. I am also an investor, as is my father. We shall be taking a good look at Autozone as an investment opportunity, something we might not have done otherwise. I suppose you can count that as a silver lining in this case: no such thing as bad publicity!
I wish you, your company, and your many employees continued success.
First of all, shyster is what you call a lawyer, not a judge. Get your terminology right. A corrupt judge is called a corrupt judge. A biased court, in which the outcome is predetermined for whatever reason, is called a Kangaroo Court.
Nevertheless, all indications and evidence are contrary to your assertions that Kimball and Wells are corrupt judges. As far as anyone reasonable can tell, they are competent and ethical judges. There is absolutely nothing that could offer even a suspicion that they are corrupt.
Such a comment as you made shows that you're very careless in what you say. You don't even offer a hint support for your allegations.
You've got it exactly right. The claim in court is that Autozone improperly used OpenServer libs. The press release is as you said.
If anything, this strengthens Redhat's hand in the Redhat v. SCO case, since it shows 1) That SCO's threats against Redhat customers are fraudulent, because the threaten lawsuit ends up hinging on alleged use of OpenServer libs, not Linux itself, and 2) They continue to make false statements to the press about the nature of their so called legal claims.
The press release is merely lipstick. SCO is still a pig. (My apologies to any pigs out there. Yes, I am an insensitive clod(TM).)
I get your point, but I think it's far more likely that Novell is the "owner" of Unix. Of course, this remains to be determined in court, but IMHO the evidence is in Novell's favor.
Mod great grandparent up for being so stupid that it's funny.
Mod grandparent down on general priciples.
Mod parent up, because we do really care that he doesn't think anyone gives a crap what the grandparent poster thinks.
Don't give me mod points. Instead, give me those twenty dollar bills you suspect of having chips implanted. I'll test them for you. To preserve anonymity, you may send them to me via Pay Pal.
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You can avoid timecode break problems by pre-blacking your tape. You can do this a variety of ways. The easiest (to explain) is just record a tape with the lens cap on.
I buy tape in bulk, so when I get a fresh batch, I take a few days to black them. Sounds like a pain, but it's really much less of a pain than dealing with TC breaks.
2) Open you ears. Or better yet, your dictionary for that matter. Since when did "squash" equate to "seeking to destroy through any means possible"? When did "squash" connote "to bypass the common rules of decency"? You people certainly read a lot into one word.
Those definitions of "squash" became operative when we began discussing Microsoft.
I still think this is pretty restrictive, since you get to determine if it "looks used". How about you just send me one, and in 365 days I'll pay for it, or send it back?
After seeing a friend go through four MP3 CD players in a 12 month period, I decided to go ahead and get an iPod. I was very lucky. Not only did I manage to score a 10 GB 2nd Gen iPod from Apple's refurb page for $170, but when it arrived, it was new in the original box!
At the time I bought, I was still skeptical about the iPod, but I figured that I'd be able to ebay it for a profit if I didn't like it. Within a few weeks I was absolutely thrilled by this purchase. It is my second most essential gadget (laptop is still #1), and I would gladly pay full retail for a new one. All that crap you hear from the kool aid drinkers about the iPod changing their lives and reinvigorating their love for music is true!
If they made a matte black mini, I'd buy one as a fashion accessory!
The same goes for my experience with OS 9 diehards. Oftentimes, it's taken them years of experience to get OS 9 to do exactly what they want or to become OS 9 power users. They've spent countless hours tweaking their extensions and what not. The move to OS X is not just change but having to start over, and having to throw out much of their hard won knowledge.
That said, nine out of ten of these diehards really love OS X after using it for any amount of time, from a week to a month. Assuming they are able to upgrade their apps, most will avoid classic or rebooting into OS 9 after about 2 months.
There is the one in ten that seems unable to deal with OS X. I suspect in some cases, they aren't really trying it. Instead they complain endlessly about Apple has betrayed them.
FYI, Adobe is no longer porting Premiere to the Mac. Not surprising, given that iMovie, Final Cut Express, Final Cut Pro, and Avid have effectively squeezed Premiere out of the Mac Market. I feel bad for the few that were using Premiere for the Mac (actually I feel sorry for all Premiere users), but obviously Adobe didn't see any point in continuing.
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Correct. He should have taken up the matter in civil court, rather than trying to extort money from the sheriff's department. He might have gotten an attorney to work for contingency, rather than have to hire a defense attorney (who generally charges by the hour).
And another highly misleading headline. "Compensation for Bandwidth Costs is Extortion?" is a real twisting of the reported facts, even if the webguy's claims are reasonable (They aren't). His actions certainly are not reasonable.
1) When all is said and done, I don't think that SCO will have really done much damage to Linux (or by extension, the GPL). When all this started, the more far-sighted among us said this would be a great test case for the GPL. As SCO's smoke and mirrors have been pierced and as the various cases have developed, however, this has not been about the GPL. It's all been FUD. Most of us have known this for a while, but now EVERYONE knows it. If anything, Linux has gained strength, if this is the best that it's enemies can do.
2) This potentially hugely damaging to MS. If the allegations are true (I'd put money on it), they're in breach of the settlements. Kollar-Kotelly, the judge of the punishment phase, will certainly want to take another look at the case. The various state Attorney Generals will want to reopen the case. There might also be new criminal charges filed, not to mention civil cases. At the very least, we should see some investigations. And I haven't even mentioned how this might play out internationally.
3) Regardless of how this plays out in the courts, MS is going to lose big in the court of public opinion. The MS defenders will not have a leg to stand on. (I never imagined Enderle with any legs. Instead, I've always imagined him as a giant farting ass, with no other body parts attached.) The FUD campaign has not only fallen apart, it has backfired.
4) Having failed to really slow Linux adoption or development, MS will continue to lose ground. Longhorn is two or more years out, folks are already suspicious about "XP Reloaded" (why name a product after a really bad sequel?), and Linux clearly has huge momentum.
The DOJ, the various states' AGs, and not least, Her Honor Kollar-Kotelly.
If I may repeat a joke:
After IBM gets whatever part of Unix that Novell doesn't own, they jointly GPL it and it becomes known as GNU/Unix.
Don't look know, but SCO has confirmed that ESR's leaked memo linking MS to the Baystar deal is real, although they claim that the memo's meaning is being misinterpreted and that the author of the memo didn't understand the situation. Right.
Correct. In fact, if he is who he says he is, I guarantee that he will be part of the case, if it gets that far. He didn't open himself up to anything.
Actually, it's not that random. Autozone has been already mentioned in the IBM case, along with Sherwin Williams (paint). I believe it was in a supplemental answer to IBM's interrogatory #8, but I can't check at the moment, because I am having trouble accessing the groklaw site.
Not exactly true. When buyers outnumber sellers, the stock price goes up, increasing a company's valuation. This is good for shareholders and the company (not to mention execs.)
I've already written Steve Odland, the Chairman and CEO of Autozone. Here's what I wrote:
Dear Mr. Odland,
Like your company, I am a Linux user, and am pleased to know that you have chosen Linux as part of your company's IT infrastructure. What a suprise to learn this morning that Autozone is in the crosshairs of SCO Group! I have no advice to impart, only words of encouragement. Give 'em hell!
The help and support I can offer is minor, but I hope it will also be encouraging in a humble way. Henceforth I will use Autozone for all my automotive needs and recommend Autozone to my friends. I am also an investor, as is my father. We shall be taking a good look at Autozone as an investment opportunity, something we might not have done otherwise. I suppose you can count that as a silver lining in this case: no such thing as bad publicity!
I wish you, your company, and your many employees continued success.
First of all, shyster is what you call a lawyer, not a judge. Get your terminology right. A corrupt judge is called a corrupt judge. A biased court, in which the outcome is predetermined for whatever reason, is called a Kangaroo Court.
Nevertheless, all indications and evidence are contrary to your assertions that Kimball and Wells are corrupt judges. As far as anyone reasonable can tell, they are competent and ethical judges. There is absolutely nothing that could offer even a suspicion that they are corrupt.
Such a comment as you made shows that you're very careless in what you say. You don't even offer a hint support for your allegations.
You've got it exactly right. The claim in court is that Autozone improperly used OpenServer libs. The press release is as you said.
If anything, this strengthens Redhat's hand in the Redhat v. SCO case, since it shows 1) That SCO's threats against Redhat customers are fraudulent, because the threaten lawsuit ends up hinging on alleged use of OpenServer libs, not Linux itself, and 2) They continue to make false statements to the press about the nature of their so called legal claims.
The press release is merely lipstick. SCO is still a pig. (My apologies to any pigs out there. Yes, I am an insensitive clod(TM).)
I get your point, but I think it's far more likely that Novell is the "owner" of Unix. Of course, this remains to be determined in court, but IMHO the evidence is in Novell's favor.
You need evidence? How about duct tape with cat fur stuck to it?
Mod great grandparent up for being so stupid that it's funny.
Mod grandparent down on general priciples.
Mod parent up, because we do really care that he doesn't think anyone gives a crap what the grandparent poster thinks.
Don't give me mod points. Instead, give me those twenty dollar bills you suspect of having chips implanted. I'll test them for you. To preserve anonymity, you may send them to me via Pay Pal.
And whatever child or grandchild posts appear here (if any) mod them up, again, on general principles.
Just a quick tip, at the risk of being OT.
You can avoid timecode break problems by pre-blacking your tape. You can do this a variety of ways. The easiest (to explain) is just record a tape with the lens cap on.
I buy tape in bulk, so when I get a fresh batch, I take a few days to black them. Sounds like a pain, but it's really much less of a pain than dealing with TC breaks.
2) Open you ears. Or better yet, your dictionary for that matter. Since when did "squash" equate to "seeking to destroy through any means possible"? When did "squash" connote "to bypass the common rules of decency"? You people certainly read a lot into one word.
Those definitions of "squash" became operative when we began discussing Microsoft.
Hey Rev.,
For the record, this friend of mine was not known for taking good care of her stuff, so that might have something to do with going through so many.
I still think this is pretty restrictive, since you get to determine if it "looks used". How about you just send me one, and in 365 days I'll pay for it, or send it back?
After seeing a friend go through four MP3 CD players in a 12 month period, I decided to go ahead and get an iPod. I was very lucky. Not only did I manage to score a 10 GB 2nd Gen iPod from Apple's refurb page for $170, but when it arrived, it was new in the original box!
At the time I bought, I was still skeptical about the iPod, but I figured that I'd be able to ebay it for a profit if I didn't like it. Within a few weeks I was absolutely thrilled by this purchase. It is my second most essential gadget (laptop is still #1), and I would gladly pay full retail for a new one. All that crap you hear from the kool aid drinkers about the iPod changing their lives and reinvigorating their love for music is true!
If they made a matte black mini, I'd buy one as a fashion accessory!
The same goes for my experience with OS 9 diehards. Oftentimes, it's taken them years of experience to get OS 9 to do exactly what they want or to become OS 9 power users. They've spent countless hours tweaking their extensions and what not. The move to OS X is not just change but having to start over, and having to throw out much of their hard won knowledge.
That said, nine out of ten of these diehards really love OS X after using it for any amount of time, from a week to a month. Assuming they are able to upgrade their apps, most will avoid classic or rebooting into OS 9 after about 2 months.
There is the one in ten that seems unable to deal with OS X. I suspect in some cases, they aren't really trying it. Instead they complain endlessly about Apple has betrayed them.
You took the bait, and now you look like a schmuck. This is the 20th time I've seen this troll on slashdot, and I'm not an everyday vistor/poster.
They just couldn't figure out who to sue.
He probably listens to too much meddle.
FYI, Adobe is no longer porting Premiere to the Mac. Not surprising, given that iMovie, Final Cut Express, Final Cut Pro, and Avid have effectively squeezed Premiere out of the Mac Market. I feel bad for the few that were using Premiere for the Mac (actually I feel sorry for all Premiere users), but obviously Adobe didn't see any point in continuing.