Ahh yes, a total cost of bullshi..err i mean ownership 'comparison'. What utter tosh, you don't pay Microsoft in arrears over the length of the product's usage life do you? and in some businesses the profit margin is so wafer thin that the 210k over 6 years could be your profit margin (been there myself).
I beg to differ. It's a clear flaw when the os doesnt automatically request authentication for rights escalation for all apps and systems that need it, and doesnt make it painfully difficult to run as an admin user. just because application coders have continued to code as microsoft have conditioned them to doesnt mean microsoft couldnt code in safety by default, and ensure that applications that write to non user specific areas either get a dialogue box popping up asking for authentication, or are writing to a copy of the section of registry that is then stored with the user's data. What you also seem to miss is _my_ point of why the hell windows didnt just do the same as nix operating systems in the first place. Also, the transition to windows xp broke quite a few apps anyway so why not take the opportunity to force the issue with developers, or use a userspecific copy of the registry as previously suggested. There are plenty of things microsoft could have done to either ensure applications would run in the LUA mode, or request authentication for the escalation. I didnt originally say windows is flawed in the LU department, i expressed puzzlement that this situation was allowed to happen. Dont blame the developers, Microsoft have hardly made things easy or issued decent information as to what setting where is open to the LU accounts. Not to mention Microsoft have got plenty of their OWN applications that will not run as LU......
another way of putting this, and i think a better way, is the old arguement: It's not Stupid User, its Stupid Developer. I still cant work out exactly why windows doesnt have a default security level for _everyone_, and a seperate security level for administration work _only_. Ie log in to change settings and install systemwide apps. Hardly like its unprecedented in computing
>They are effectively a blotchy quantal reproduction of what is really a smooth analog transition from one colour to the next. Well that could surely be mitigated by very high end antialiasing style tricks. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.
that may be the case, but, wandering even further off topic, the obvious answer to that is what elements make up the atmosphere on titan. The issue i raise was, that in order to put a _breathable_ atmosphere on mars, the atmospheric pressure would have to be raised to a level massively more than the gravity well of mars could support. if you start putting much heavier elements into the atmosphere this problem goes away. It also ensures the atmosphere is not breathable, and probably toxic to plant life.
Seriously though, one problem with making mars habitable enough to live on without domes or breathing equipment is exceedingly hard to beat. That is mar's mass isn't high enough to generate a gravity well large enough to sustain enough atmospheric pressure to live on the surface. Even with a gradual depressurisation (of people wanting to survive on the surface without a complete space suit including some form of counterpressure) to martian pressure would be a killer. As far as i am aware the planet's atmosphere is in equilibrium, that is, the amount of gasses there and the pressure they are at is sustained to the fullest extent of the gravity of the planet. Adding more gasses in some way to increase the atmospheric pressure would not help because it would boil off into space. And don't even get me started on the lack of a protective magnetic field.
sorry for the lateness in my replying to this. I hope that at some stage we do come to the point where nobody needs external aide to overcome using operating systems, the points you raise do illustrate how far away even os x is from the goal still.
What you have to understand is that Apple, and to a lesser extent Microsoft, are trying to build user interfaces so intuitive to Humans that you can sit down and use it without having to read a hefty manual, or listen to hours of audio tapes. The archimedes os was missing the point by bundling os instruction audio tapes, in effect it was a workaround to a problem that has existed since the age of the computer operating system. Personally I think apple are closer than anyone, and conversely I personally think KDE is the user interface currently furthest away (sadly, since I like KDE alot).
There could be a dual model system, download for rent/watch only from device (im thinking the macmini and the media theory regarding that here), or, for a higher price, download in a format you can put on a (hd?)dvdr the biggest problem with current dvdrs is it'll very rapidly get decssed and reposted on the net. Unless watermarking is used.
Whatever happens, it's only going to be when you can watch it on your tv in the lounge, rather than on the computer screen, that it'll be a success.
I think they cant be fined for the region coding itself, the only thing that they can be fined for is discriminatorially large price differences between the European market, and the rest of the world. And i hope they do. For loads of money.
Well the grandparent would still be right in the rough number of units sold if it wasn't for one thing i think will hold it back. storage capacity on it, like all similar devices, still isnt exactly huge in this day and age. i dont even think i could swing a small mouse about in that little space, let alone a cat.
and whilst he looks for that other link, maybe you'd like to read this one, just to give you some 'background' http://www.arn.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultim atebb.cgi?ubb= get_topic;f=13;t=001768;p=0
whilst he finds that one, maybe you could forward over the scientific proof that elevates creationism from theory into scientific fact? (not the version with circular referencing and evidence that have no support other then themselves please)
usually when you do this its the charity that gets the money from the tax, as in the government gives the charity an extra percentage on top of your donation. This is not done automatically, you have to fill in a form.
of course that wouldn't really matter to the people who are victim to this Hiroshima model, and what makes you think they couldnt build something more effective with lots of hungry nuclear physicists in the world?
"Evolving long enough, your spam filter will become a construct emulating your own mind " I don't think theres a computer that could handle that much Depravity though.......
nono, the best bet would be 2 buttons, labelled Yes and Yes. allows the user to think he gets some choice, but with the ability to prevent user error overriding firefox's security;o)
You sure this isnt the IPV6 issue? (Konqueror by default tries to load everything via IPV6, then fails back to IPV4. This is disableable somewhere or other.
I think it has something to do with kmail wanting to alter headers, which isnt allowed by most imap servers iirc. cached(disconnected) imap works just fine for filters etc.
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Ahh yes, a total cost of bullshi..err i mean ownership 'comparison'. What utter tosh, you don't pay Microsoft in arrears over the length of the product's usage life do you? and in some businesses the profit margin is so wafer thin that the 210k over 6 years could be your profit margin (been there myself).
I beg to differ. It's a clear flaw when the os doesnt automatically request authentication for rights escalation for all apps and systems that need it, and doesnt make it painfully difficult to run as an admin user. just because application coders have continued to code as microsoft have conditioned them to doesnt mean microsoft couldnt code in safety by default, and ensure that applications that write to non user specific areas either get a dialogue box popping up asking for authentication, or are writing to a copy of the section of registry that is then stored with the user's data. What you also seem to miss is _my_ point of why the hell windows didnt just do the same as nix operating systems in the first place. Also, the transition to windows xp broke quite a few apps anyway so why not take the opportunity to force the issue with developers, or use a userspecific copy of the registry as previously suggested. There are plenty of things microsoft could have done to either ensure applications would run in the LUA mode, or request authentication for the escalation. I didnt originally say windows is flawed in the LU department, i expressed puzzlement that this situation was allowed to happen. Dont blame the developers, Microsoft have hardly made things easy or issued decent information as to what setting where is open to the LU accounts. Not to mention Microsoft have got plenty of their OWN applications that will not run as LU......
another way of putting this, and i think a better way, is the old arguement: It's not Stupid User, its Stupid Developer. I still cant work out exactly why windows doesnt have a default security level for _everyone_, and a seperate security level for administration work _only_. Ie log in to change settings and install systemwide apps. Hardly like its unprecedented in computing
MAYBE the space station MADE them eat the extra food...Anyone know if theres a large metal sphere surrounded by magnets on the ISS?
>They are effectively a blotchy quantal reproduction of what is really a smooth analog transition from one colour to the next.
Well that could surely be mitigated by very high end antialiasing style tricks. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.
that may be the case, but, wandering even further off topic, the obvious answer to that is what elements make up the atmosphere on titan. The issue i raise was, that in order to put a _breathable_ atmosphere on mars, the atmospheric pressure would have to be raised to a level massively more than the gravity well of mars could support. if you start putting much heavier elements into the atmosphere this problem goes away. It also ensures the atmosphere is not breathable, and probably toxic to plant life.
Seriously though, one problem with making mars habitable enough to live on without domes or breathing equipment is exceedingly hard to beat. That is mar's mass isn't high enough to generate a gravity well large enough to sustain enough atmospheric pressure to live on the surface.
Even with a gradual depressurisation (of people wanting to survive on the surface without a complete space suit including some form of counterpressure) to martian pressure would be a killer.
As far as i am aware the planet's atmosphere is in equilibrium, that is, the amount of gasses there and the pressure they are at is sustained to the fullest extent of the gravity of the planet. Adding more gasses in some way to increase the atmospheric pressure would not help because it would boil off into space. And don't even get me started on the lack of a protective magnetic field.
sorry for the lateness in my replying to this. I hope that at some stage we do come to the point where nobody needs external aide to overcome using operating systems, the points you raise do illustrate how far away even os x is from the goal still.
What you have to understand is that Apple, and to a lesser extent Microsoft, are trying to build user interfaces so intuitive to Humans that you can sit down and use it without having to read a hefty manual, or listen to hours of audio tapes. The archimedes os was missing the point by bundling os instruction audio tapes, in effect it was a workaround to a problem that has existed since the age of the computer operating system. Personally I think apple are closer than anyone, and conversely I personally think KDE is the user interface currently furthest away (sadly, since I like KDE alot).
There could be a dual model system, download for rent/watch only from device (im thinking the macmini and the media theory regarding that here), or, for a higher price, download in a format you can put on a (hd?)dvdr
the biggest problem with current dvdrs is it'll very rapidly get decssed and reposted on the net. Unless watermarking is used.
Whatever happens, it's only going to be when you can watch it on your tv in the lounge, rather than on the computer screen, that it'll be a success.
I think they cant be fined for the region coding itself, the only thing that they can be fined for is discriminatorially large price differences between the European market, and the rest of the world. And i hope they do. For loads of money.
Well the grandparent would still be right in the rough number of units sold if it wasn't for one thing i think will hold it back. storage capacity on it, like all similar devices, still isnt exactly huge in this day and age. i dont even think i could swing a small mouse about in that little space, let alone a cat.
and whilst he looks for that other link, maybe you'd like to read this one, just to give you some 'background'm atebb.cgi?ubb= get_topic;f=13;t=001768;p=0
http://www.arn.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ulti
whilst he finds that one, maybe you could forward over the scientific proof that elevates creationism from theory into scientific fact? (not the version with circular referencing and evidence that have no support other then themselves please)
usually when you do this its the charity that gets the money from the tax, as in the government gives the charity an extra percentage on top of your donation. This is not done automatically, you have to fill in a form.
of course that wouldn't really matter to the people who are victim to this Hiroshima model, and what makes you think they couldnt build something more effective with lots of hungry nuclear physicists in the world?
they may have one up their sleeve, with the word nuke on it
It certainly will be for those that fell for it and bought stock...
Makes alot more sense to me. Not so much smoke and mirrors as smokey, hot air.
"Evolving long enough, your spam filter will become a construct emulating your own mind "
I don't think theres a computer that could handle that much Depravity though.......
nono, the best bet would be 2 buttons, labelled Yes and Yes. allows the user to think he gets some choice, but with the ability to prevent user error overriding firefox's security ;o)
If the BSA pulled that shit on me running a GNU/Linux shop they'd find themselves on the wrong end of a lawsuit.
Only because some microsoft spin paramedic put a megnet on the meter.
You sure this isnt the IPV6 issue? (Konqueror by default tries to load everything via IPV6, then fails back to IPV4. This is disableable somewhere or other.
I think it has something to do with kmail wanting to alter headers, which isnt allowed by most imap servers iirc. cached(disconnected) imap works just fine for filters etc.