I don't need "hope", a "meaning of life", anything "greater", "something is too perfect about this world to be random", or whatever you claim to need, so why waste time _believing_ in those?
All I want is "reason"; in combination with that I cannot but _believe_ in scientific methodology (theories need to be falsifiable, etc.) and the plain possibility and existance of proofs. Those concepts cannot be proven themselves, because the attempt to proof them is crediting them with validity in the first place. That would be a self-fulfilling prophecy... (This is the reason I don't argue with religious people, they just base their thoughts upon a different set of fundamentals; any argumentation already _is_ the choice for reason and science, so why bother?)
I cannot comment on Problem 1, but, concerning 2: You have noticed GDS does search inside those files as well? It helped me rediscover quite a few notes so far, which I didn't remember directory or filename of, but the title I had given them...
Too complex. Users will try to press vote without "selecting" a candidate first. Simply touching the candidate should bring up the Yes/No, with "No" leading back to the selection screen. The options should also include a "I refuse to vote for any of these candidates". I agree on some sibling posts points as well, Pictures are a problem, and a paper trail is absolutely necessary. I don't see a reason not to vote on paper in the first place though...
I agree, it was a good idea to have this dependant assignments (we had to do some unrelated ones beforehand, so there was a good amount of balance involved IMHO), but the problem of non-compiling code was way more severe with the dependant stuff, naturally. The independent assignments didn't compile too often, as well, but most of the time they didn't solve the assignment anyway (Usually simple mistakes, like "Print a x-wide, y-high square of *'s on screen", wich outputted a x-high, y-wide square, or missing;'s, faulty neverending loops, and the like. Clearly the instructor didn't even test his solution, but was confident of his skills... We complained, but nothing changed. Has been like this for years, I'm told.)
This is especially true if you're having multiple assignments dependant on each other. Student at the RWTH Aachen (Germany) CS-Courses can tell you about this...
We had a 6 assignments (one each week) block to do, implementing a simple accounting system, learning lists, classes, etc. Each week it would state we could start off of the previous weeks instructor's solution, so we wouldn't be stuck if our own solution didn't work (failing too many assignments would of course cost you...). We all had the same Java versions, IDE, etc. installed (came on a CD, from the University). Well, my solutions always worked, so I could build upon them. The instructor's ones never even compiled...
>Bug, by design. This is a long standing Smalltalk problem: no security granularity. It's a nobody/root bitflip. Apparently the Wiki vandalism lesson hasn't taken.
Could anyone expand on this? Is it real? How deep does it run, i.e. how extensive would changes to Croquet have to be to resolve it? Is the itself VM affected? >Done.
I'm willing to give it a year or two, that's not the problem.:-)
>The whole system is there for the tweaking -- think of this as an incredibly powerful toolkit, and build the interface you want.
Let me rephrase then: The way the current interface is designed, I would not use it. Plus, I'm under not obligation to change it to my preferences. The developer's are neither. It just looks like we're dreaming of incompatibly different interfaces, I'm afraid...
>If I don't write an ASDW navigation patch, someone will very soon.
Except when noone bothers. That happens more often than one would like to think.
BTW I think you misunderstood me. It's not ASDW I want (Though keybindings would be a must), it's the concept of mouse-look for left-right and mouse-move for up-down. The axis choice seems incoherent.
>...besides, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to get your head around the main Squeak concepts (odd as they are)... get codin'!
Why does everyone assume that one should do that? I prefer trying to give criticism. This can prevent forking, you know?
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As the subject says, this post will highlight some of my impressions, which are all-in-all negative. Not because I think a 3d desktop is ineffective, but because I think _this_ specific implementation of the idea sucks, pardon my language, major ass.
Why? Let's see:
The one huge PITA for me is the navigation. The mouse interface is as disturbing as it can get. If I had a joypad connected, the up=forward system would make perfect sense, but this way I automatically tend to navigate as in _any_ 3D-Shooter. I could adapt, granted, but where is the actual gain? Why is navigating this way supposed to be better?
Most icons are not very intuitive, be that trained or natural intuition. I can figure how to move, rotate, activate, close and focus those windows, but most of the icons in the menu are absolutely beyond me. Some do nothing, some crash something, some spawn world objects that don't have a closing icon, etc. Tooltips _and_ at least a minimum documentation would be neat... And don't you point me at their getting started section. Have you actually read that? It wasn't much, so the average slashdotter should have been able to...
How do I get a mozilla window? Or, for that matter, any application? Maybe it is my inability to use the menu icons right, but, if screenshots show off with a webbrowser open, then I expect, even in a developer's version, to be able to easily repeat that.
Runtime environment. Not much to add, I guess. I have a personal dislike for anything that looks like the kindergarten-gaudy version of drag'n'drop your code. Hell, even QBasic looks more professional. It might be the best language/codebase for the purpose, but it sure looks stupid...
My last point: Sharing userspace over network. I theory this is great. Having the ability to cyberspace parts of my system is way cool for cooperative work, etc. BUT (big but here) only when I can absolutely retain the ability to seal the rest of my system from intruders. Same problem as shared directories: In theory, great. In realita? Security holes amass. If everyone was an enlightened and good person this weren't an issue, but, statistically, everyones a script-kiddie. So, please, give me a)private-by-default and b)clear indication when a network connection exists, including the ability to turn any such conectivity off, ok?
I hope some people will comment! This post is not intended as flamebait, you know...:-)
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>Really, when you think about it, we only really need C.
We don't need C, not even Assembler, to be precise. Machine language is, technically, sufficient.:-)
Don't believe me? Well, the lazy guys over at Menuet have coded a graphic OS, including alpha transparency in assembler (that's why I said "lazy", should've done it in machine language for extra geek-points:-). It fits a floppy and is rumored to be ultra-fast...
Care to explain which CSS (version?) features require the ability to change the browser interface itself? It seems I can only think of some that change buttons and widgets _inside_ the page area. OO-code reusing could (and should IMHO) draw the line here. (Why not have a button class and a uibutton one, which is seperate? No fancy UI changing then...)
In Germany it's practically only Hitler's "Mein Kampf", which can officially be obtained through any university or bigger library (someone has to sign something about you needing it for studying). Other books can at worst be forbidden to sell to minors, because of their content, but libraries still carry a great many of them and most bookshops don't care about such reglementation. Any book, or rather it's author, can however be brought before a court, if someone feels insulted or the content is "volksverhetzend" (calling the people of a country to violence on really big scale). If the author is found guilty, the book may be disallowed from further printing. There were a few cases of insult-related lawsuits in the past years, but, afaik, none of the authors were found guilty. This is usually used more as an advertisement:-)
Hm, I'm no expert either, but I would tend to think that the re-entry problem is not height, but the speed required to stay in orbit. In order to return to earth you hve to reduce speed pretty heavily (The reason SpaceShipOne didn't "reach orbit" was that it can't ever reach the necessary speed in the first place). If you don't do this "fast" enough you'll not reach earth surface, but continue to orbit, albeit way more eccentric. It is possible to land in this way, a lot of mars flight plans include this multiple aerobraking/atmosphere dipping, but it takes a) a lot more time, as your orbit takes you pretty far outwards between the "dips" and b) it is way more risky as your calculations have to be very precise (Otherwise... You know what flat stones can do on water?:-) As I said, I'm merely a/.-reading geek, but I think this is pretty much what the problem looks like...
Maybe I should have posted a smiley at the end of that comment... On the other hand, ESA is right around the corner (I live in Germany), so to speak, and their Aurora programm gives 2033 as defintive year for humans to mars... I guess, I'm a bit subjective:-)
Yeah, but I sure as hell want to be able to say "I was there when it happened", talking about a manned mission to mars, be it onboard or in front of the tv... Well, all hope's not lost, ESA's "Aurora" Programm still runs fully as expected. Might well be that Europe will send the first men and women to mars... Would be ironic, don't you agree?
I haven't used Mozilla for downloading in a long time, so I don't know about it's manager, but: Have you thought about Opera? It uses a download manager as well, but you can watch all progress bars in a neat side-bar (the hotlist, which also displays Bookmarks, History, Links in the current page, Information about the current page, notes and every page you choose as "panel" on request...) I consider that good enough, except when you want to see all your downloads in the taskbar...
You do realize the difference? Forcing your personal "right way" onto the customer per default, as in your first post, or finding a way of coping with a complaining customer, as in the second? My advice: Let them sign that you informed them about problems...
Ah, remind me never to buy from you. I don't mind expertise if I request help, but your only "duty" is to f**king sell me what I want, not impose your view of "best choice" on me. That way you won't only piss off customers who already know what they want, but also loose some profitable sales. The only thing served is your inflated ego...
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I don't need "hope", a "meaning of life", anything "greater", "something is too perfect about this world to be random", or whatever you claim to need, so why waste time _believing_ in those? All I want is "reason"; in combination with that I cannot but _believe_ in scientific methodology (theories need to be falsifiable, etc.) and the plain possibility and existance of proofs. Those concepts cannot be proven themselves, because the attempt to proof them is crediting them with validity in the first place. That would be a self-fulfilling prophecy... (This is the reason I don't argue with religious people, they just base their thoughts upon a different set of fundamentals; any argumentation already _is_ the choice for reason and science, so why bother?)
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Editors, please...
I cannot comment on Problem 1, but, concerning 2: You have noticed GDS does search inside those files as well? It helped me rediscover quite a few notes so far, which I didn't remember directory or filename of, but the title I had given them...
Too complex. Users will try to press vote without "selecting" a candidate first. Simply touching the candidate should bring up the Yes/No, with "No" leading back to the selection screen. The options should also include a "I refuse to vote for any of these candidates". I agree on some sibling posts points as well, Pictures are a problem, and a paper trail is absolutely necessary. I don't see a reason not to vote on paper in the first place though...
I agree, it was a good idea to have this dependant assignments (we had to do some unrelated ones beforehand, so there was a good amount of balance involved IMHO), but the problem of non-compiling code was way more severe with the dependant stuff, naturally. The independent assignments didn't compile too often, as well, but most of the time they didn't solve the assignment anyway (Usually simple mistakes, like "Print a x-wide, y-high square of *'s on screen", wich outputted a x-high, y-wide square, or missing ;'s, faulty neverending loops, and the like. Clearly the instructor didn't even test his solution, but was confident of his skills... We complained, but nothing changed. Has been like this for years, I'm told.)
This is especially true if you're having multiple assignments dependant on each other. Student at the RWTH Aachen (Germany) CS-Courses can tell you about this...
We had a 6 assignments (one each week) block to do, implementing a simple accounting system, learning lists, classes, etc. Each week it would state we could start off of the previous weeks instructor's solution, so we wouldn't be stuck if our own solution didn't work (failing too many assignments would of course cost you...). We all had the same Java versions, IDE, etc. installed (came on a CD, from the University). Well, my solutions always worked, so I could build upon them. The instructor's ones never even compiled...
>Bug, by design. This is a long standing Smalltalk problem: no security granularity. It's a nobody/root bitflip. Apparently the Wiki vandalism lesson hasn't taken.
:-)
Could anyone expand on this? Is it real? How deep does it run, i.e. how extensive would changes to Croquet have to be to resolve it? Is the itself VM affected?
>Done.
Thank you
>Eh, give it a day or two.
:-)
I'm willing to give it a year or two, that's not the problem.
>The whole system is there for the tweaking -- think of this as an incredibly powerful toolkit, and build the interface you want.
Let me rephrase then: The way the current interface is designed, I would not use it. Plus, I'm under not obligation to change it to my preferences. The developer's are neither. It just looks like we're dreaming of incompatibly different interfaces, I'm afraid...
>If I don't write an ASDW navigation patch, someone will very soon.
Except when noone bothers. That happens more often than one would like to think.
BTW I think you misunderstood me. It's not ASDW I want (Though keybindings would be a must), it's the concept of mouse-look for left-right and mouse-move for up-down. The axis choice seems incoherent.
>...besides, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to get your head around the main Squeak concepts (odd as they are)... get codin'!
Why does everyone assume that one should do that? I prefer trying to give criticism. This can prevent forking, you know?
Now, THAT'S a geek to my tastes :-P
Why? Let's see:
- The one huge PITA for me is the navigation. The mouse interface is as disturbing as it can get. If I had a joypad connected, the up=forward system would make perfect sense, but this way I automatically tend to navigate as in _any_ 3D-Shooter. I could adapt, granted, but where is the actual gain? Why is navigating this way supposed to be better?
- Most icons are not very intuitive, be that trained or natural intuition. I can figure how to move, rotate, activate, close and focus those windows, but most of the icons in the menu are absolutely beyond me. Some do nothing, some crash something, some spawn world objects that don't have a closing icon, etc. Tooltips _and_ at least a minimum documentation would be neat... And don't you point me at their getting started section. Have you actually read that? It wasn't much, so the average slashdotter should have been able to...
- How do I get a mozilla window? Or, for that matter, any application? Maybe it is my inability to use the menu icons right, but, if screenshots show off with a webbrowser open, then I expect, even in a developer's version, to be able to easily repeat that.
- Runtime environment. Not much to add, I guess. I have a personal dislike for anything that looks like the kindergarten-gaudy version of drag'n'drop your code. Hell, even QBasic looks more professional. It might be the best language/codebase for the purpose, but it sure looks stupid...
- My last point: Sharing userspace over network. I theory this is great. Having the ability to cyberspace parts of my system is way cool for cooperative work, etc. BUT (big but here) only when I can absolutely retain the ability to seal the rest of my system from intruders. Same problem as shared directories: In theory, great. In realita? Security holes amass. If everyone was an enlightened and good person this weren't an issue, but, statistically, everyones a script-kiddie. So, please, give me a)private-by-default and b)clear indication when a network connection exists, including the ability to turn any such conectivity off, ok?
I hope some people will comment! This post is not intended as flamebait, you know...>Really, when you think about it, we only really need C. :-) :-).
We don't need C, not even Assembler, to be precise. Machine language is, technically, sufficient.
Don't believe me?
Well, the lazy guys over at Menuet have coded a graphic OS, including alpha transparency in assembler (that's why I said "lazy", should've done it in machine language for extra geek-points
It fits a floppy and is rumored to be ultra-fast...
This guy surely knows why he posted as AC... Not because of "Stasi-like methods", I, as a german, might add.
Care to explain which CSS (version?) features require the ability to change the browser interface itself? It seems I can only think of some that change buttons and widgets _inside_ the page area. OO-code reusing could (and should IMHO) draw the line here. (Why not have a button class and a uibutton one, which is seperate? No fancy UI changing then...)
In Germany it's practically only Hitler's "Mein Kampf", which can officially be obtained through any university or bigger library (someone has to sign something about you needing it for studying). Other books can at worst be forbidden to sell to minors, because of their content, but libraries still carry a great many of them and most bookshops don't care about such reglementation. Any book, or rather it's author, can however be brought before a court, if someone feels insulted or the content is "volksverhetzend" (calling the people of a country to violence on really big scale). If the author is found guilty, the book may be disallowed from further printing. There were a few cases of insult-related lawsuits in the past years, but, afaik, none of the authors were found guilty. This is usually used more as an advertisement :-)
Hm, :-) /.-reading geek, but I think this is pretty much what the problem looks like...
I'm no expert either, but I would tend to think that the re-entry problem is not height, but the speed required to stay in orbit. In order to return to earth you hve to reduce speed pretty heavily (The reason SpaceShipOne didn't "reach orbit" was that it can't ever reach the necessary speed in the first place). If you don't do this "fast" enough you'll not reach earth surface, but continue to orbit, albeit way more eccentric. It is possible to land in this way, a lot of mars flight plans include this multiple aerobraking/atmosphere dipping, but it takes a) a lot more time, as your orbit takes you pretty far outwards between the "dips" and b) it is way more risky as your calculations have to be very precise (Otherwise... You know what flat stones can do on water?
As I said, I'm merely a
Another one I had added to my poll submission:
GNU/Zilla
I vote for Thunderbarf, sounds cool :-) I'd like to add these:
Mozilla Fire/GNU
Mozilla LightningSquirrel (fast number crunching)
Firephish
(And just for the heck of it I'm going to try a poll on this one...)
Maybe I should have posted a smiley at the end of that comment... On the other hand, ESA is right around the corner (I live in Germany), so to speak, and their Aurora programm gives 2033 as defintive year for humans to mars... I guess, I'm a bit subjective :-)
> NASA? hire me, please...
Shouldn't that read ESA?
Yeah, but I sure as hell want to be able to say "I was there when it happened", talking about a manned mission to mars, be it onboard or in front of the tv... Well, all hope's not lost, ESA's "Aurora" Programm still runs fully as expected. Might well be that Europe will send the first men and women to mars... Would be ironic, don't you agree?
I haven't used Mozilla for downloading in a long time, so I don't know about it's manager, but:
Have you thought about Opera? It uses a download manager as well, but you can watch all progress bars in a neat side-bar (the hotlist, which also displays Bookmarks, History, Links in the current page, Information about the current page, notes and every page you choose as "panel" on request...) I consider that good enough, except when you want to see all your downloads in the taskbar...
You do realize the difference? Forcing your personal "right way" onto the customer per default, as in your first post, or finding a way of coping with a complaining customer, as in the second? My advice: Let them sign that you informed them about problems...
Ah, remind me never to buy from you. I don't mind expertise if I request help, but your only "duty" is to f**king sell me what I want, not impose your view of "best choice" on me. That way you won't only piss off customers who already know what they want, but also loose some profitable sales. The only thing served is your inflated ego...
You have seen the smiley, haven't you?