I appreciate the advice but 9 out of 10 times I am in need of schematics and manuals for obsolete equipment, things long ago declared "relics". Despite that things go obsolete quickly, many people still keep and use old equipment.
HP pulls obsolete stuff from their DB as fast as they can, why should they want anyone to repair and nurse along an old product when they can force them to buy a whole new one the first time the old one burps?
Hell, I'll do SMT level repairs when and if needed.
Hey dumbass, no, it does not. Run that very search. HP doesn't show up until the 13th link down and it's NOT about schematics. HP shows up further down again but again, not in the context needed.
Besides, when I directly searches the hp.com websites, I don't get the schematics I want. I deal with "Legacy" stuff. Things that have fallen off the radar years ago but are still in use by many people.
Once HP or anyone else, has declared a product to be obsolete, they usually remove manuals, schematics, FAQ's, etc. from their databases. HP is notorious for this practice.
Once upon a time you could find places, independent service techs that would post copies of schematics and trouble shooting tips of their own, out of good will to help other people, not for profits sake. There used to be people like that you know.
People specifically try to get a high Pagerank in Google because it it so widely used.
The people that get high pageranks are the people that PAY for them. Big business ends up at the top of the heap and non commercial sites are tossed WAY to the bottom.
I'm not saying that Dogpile is any better but at least it skims over most of the other search engines too.
The days of finding free info and free anything on the internet are done for. I guess cheapskates like me are doubleplusungood for the e-conomy...
from a search engine to the worlds largest e-commerce engine.
When I search for, for instance, HP Laserjet schematics, I get 40 pages of assholes peddling toner cartridges and refill kits.
That's NOT what I asked for, I want to find schematics that I can view. I don't want to buy a frigging CDROM with schematics on ebay, or laddersearch or toner carts or any of the other nonsense that google throws at me.
God I despise google. It has become the most useless of all search engines but the most profitable of all investments for online peddlers..
is rip out that friggin WD hard drive and chunk it. I have a WD120 that sounds like an A10 Warthog going vertical.
I've installed Maxtor 120's and 200's in other people's machines and you can't hear them running. The first few that I put in I had to pick them up to feel them "gyro" to be sure they were running.
I will never again buy a Western Digital, ever. I always warn people away from them too..
A screaming hard drive is almost impossible to silence. And yes, I tried hdparm but that only is supposed to reduce r/w head movemnet noise, not spindle bearing noise. I guess WD likes dry bearings, that way people are always reminded of their WD drive spinning away in their PC..
There is no way in hell I will ever participate in any such activities. I'll keep my green cash in my pocket, next to my 9mm, where both will stay until I decided. I'll maintain my own privacy and my own security and my own possesions...
Not that they should ever be released to breath free air in the first place, but since they do anyway, against all that makes sense in this world, tag and track them.
As a father and a grandfather I say if they enter an area like a schoolyard or a place with children, EXECUTE them on the spot.
Now I know which mobile phone NOT to buy when I ever do switch service. I wish someone would publish a list of the popular carriers, the models they sell and the OS the different models use.
If I was presented with this situation, I would rather take my chances with traditional chemo or whatever. But a big giant HELL NO to this thing. This is the worst idea I have ever heard of. NO ONE is going to go for this except people that already have HIV.
I have bookoo Pentium 133's laying around. I think it would be most excellent if someone were to make up a knoppix distro that only exists to be a VOIP client, such as Damn Small Linux doing VOIP..
If someone were to come up with something to turn old POS pc's into dedicated voip boxes that would be pretty interesting..
I have a 133 megabyte full height 5.25 Maxtor that is 20 years old, and a 44 megabyte miniscribe that is 22 years old. I saved them back from the days when they were GOLD to me. Like a moron, I traded a 100mhz dual trace Tektronix scope for the 133 meg drive. Now it sits on the floor in the closet. But guess what? The drive STILL boots and runs. Yep, it's loaded with IBM DOS 3.1 and I can still play some of my old Sierra games on it.
It's worth squat. But after 20 years of banging around on the floor as I moved several times, it still boots and runs.
I can't say that for CDR's I burned two years ago. Most of them over 2 years old are riddled with holes, like moths eating wool..
I DO NOT trust CD or DVD media for long term storage. Piss poor media if you ask me. I wish they had never invented the damn things, I put lots of important data on them over the years just to go back later and find it ruined and gone forever.
CD and DVD is a BAD technology. It's time to abandon it and reinvent the wheel..
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"funny" posts here. I've already seen some that I would consider cruel and heartless.
Having a disability is not a funny thing.
Believe me...
1. Get an old POS PC from a trashpile
2. Install Smoothwall on it. It's free..
3. Install Ad Zapper following THESE directions.
Any and ALL system that you connect into your lan will have ads blocked whether they want to or not.
Well, my complaint is that Google spews up commercial sites first. Anything "free" is EVIL and ranked as low as low can go.
The thing got off track when someone insisted that google brought up links to schematics at hp.com at the top of the list. No, that's not true at all.
Aw, hell with it.. I'm ignoring this from here on out, all the PRO BIG BUSINESS, pro google zealots are on the attack..
The little guy can't win...
I appreciate the advice but 9 out of 10 times I am in need of schematics and manuals for obsolete equipment, things long ago declared "relics".
Despite that things go obsolete quickly, many people still keep and use old equipment.
HP pulls obsolete stuff from their DB as fast as they can, why should they want anyone to repair and nurse along an old product when they can force them to buy a whole new one the first time the old one burps?
Hell, I'll do SMT level repairs when and if needed.
Hey dumbass, no, it does not. Run that very search. HP doesn't show up until the 13th link down and it's NOT about schematics. HP shows up further down again but again, not in the context needed.
Besides, when I directly searches the hp.com websites, I don't get the schematics I want. I deal with "Legacy" stuff. Things that have fallen off the radar years ago but are still in use by many people.
Once HP or anyone else, has declared a product to be obsolete, they usually remove manuals, schematics, FAQ's, etc. from their databases.
HP is notorious for this practice.
Once upon a time you could find places, independent service techs that would post copies of schematics and trouble shooting tips of their own, out of good will to help other people, not for profits sake. There used to be people like that you know.
Go trip and fall on your head stupid ass..
People specifically try to get a high Pagerank in Google because it it so widely used.
The people that get high pageranks are the people that PAY for them. Big business ends up at the top of the heap and non commercial sites are tossed WAY to the bottom.
I'm not saying that Dogpile is any better but at least it skims over most of the other search engines too.
The days of finding free info and free anything on the internet are done for.
I guess cheapskates like me are doubleplusungood for the e-conomy...
from a search engine to the worlds largest e-commerce engine.
When I search for, for instance, HP Laserjet schematics, I get 40 pages of assholes peddling toner cartridges and refill kits.
That's NOT what I asked for, I want to find schematics that I can view. I don't want to buy a frigging CDROM with schematics on ebay, or laddersearch or toner carts or any of the other nonsense that google throws at me.
God I despise google. It has become the most useless of all search engines but the most profitable of all investments for online peddlers..
I put all my efforts and support in Suse about 2 years ago and all my eggs in the Linux basket (in general) about 4 years ago.
I saw Redhat blink so I took the Suse path.
No regrets...
is rip out that friggin WD hard drive and chunk it. I have a WD120 that sounds like an A10 Warthog going vertical.
I've installed Maxtor 120's and 200's in other people's machines and you can't hear them running. The first few that I put in I had to pick them up to feel them "gyro" to be sure they were running.
I will never again buy a Western Digital, ever.
I always warn people away from them too..
A screaming hard drive is almost impossible to silence. And yes, I tried hdparm but that only is supposed to reduce r/w head movemnet noise, not spindle bearing noise.
I guess WD likes dry bearings, that way people are always reminded of their WD drive spinning away in their PC..
Um, I suspect those are available at goatse
Oh damn, I just went blind shortly after going cross eyed.
Don't look at 3D pr0n!
"The cosmic ray blast was measured at 10,000 trillion trillion trillion watts of power!"
That ought to get me up to 88mph so I can go home...
among many, many, things, these two little little details:
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http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/18/
and
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/18
There is no way in hell I will ever participate in any such activities.
I'll keep my green cash in my pocket, next to my 9mm, where both will stay until I decided.
I'll maintain my own privacy and my own security and my own possesions...
Thanks, but no thanks...
Somebody set up us the bomb.
The image can even remain on the screen for weeks without any power and doesn't need a backlight."
I figured out how to do that 30 years ago to my folks TV with my PONG console...
Flamebait? It was supposed to be funny...
The articl begged for that response...
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Yeah, who modded this down? Some child molestor pervert?
Figures... That's what's so great about democracy, it gives the minority the power to shout down the majority.
Not that they should ever be released to breath free air in the first place, but since they do anyway, against all that makes sense in this world, tag and track them.
As a father and a grandfather I say if they enter an area like a schoolyard or a place with children, EXECUTE them on the spot.
Now I know which mobile phone NOT to buy when I ever do switch service.
I wish someone would publish a list of the popular carriers, the models they sell and the OS the different models use.
If I was presented with this situation, I would rather take my chances with traditional chemo or whatever. But a big giant HELL NO to this thing.
This is the worst idea I have ever heard of.
NO ONE is going to go for this except people that already have HIV.
How revolting... ick!!!
and yes, I did RTFA.. Bullshit..
True, 70wats is a lot for a phone, but it's not as bad as my BIG phone..
I have bookoo Pentium 133's laying around.
.02 cents..
I think it would be most excellent if someone were to make up a knoppix distro that only exists to be a VOIP client, such as Damn Small Linux doing VOIP..
If someone were to come up with something to turn old POS pc's into dedicated voip boxes that would be pretty interesting..
Just my
Umm, 'scuse me a sec..
I have a 133 megabyte full height 5.25 Maxtor that is 20 years old, and a 44 megabyte miniscribe that is 22 years old. I saved them back from the days when they were GOLD to me.
Like a moron, I traded a 100mhz dual trace Tektronix scope for the 133 meg drive. Now it sits on the floor in the closet. But guess what?
The drive STILL boots and runs. Yep, it's loaded with IBM DOS 3.1 and I can still play some of my old Sierra games on it.
It's worth squat. But after 20 years of banging around on the floor as I moved several times, it still boots and runs.
I can't say that for CDR's I burned two years ago. Most of them over 2 years old are riddled with holes, like moths eating wool..
I DO NOT trust CD or DVD media for long term storage. Piss poor media if you ask me. I wish they had never invented the damn things, I put lots of important data on them over the years just to go back later and find it ruined and gone forever.
CD and DVD is a BAD technology. It's time to abandon it and reinvent the wheel..