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Stereoscopic images of Titan's surface constructed
CozmsBrpng writes "If you can successfully view stereoscopic images then you can behold the surface of Titan in all its grainy 3D glory. And, in case you missed it, you can also listen to a human ear-friendly version of the descent radar and the winds in Titan's atmosphere courtesy of the DISR team at The University of Arizona."
Really, there wasn't enough relief in those pictures to be worth inducing several thousand splitting headaches across the globe.
After all, I am strangely colored.
If you can't see it, you know what you need? What you need is a fatty boom batty blunt. Then I guarantee you'll see an ocean, a sailboat and maybe some of them big-tittied mermaids doin' some of that lesbian stuff.
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Don't try to view these pictures if your refresh rate is 60Hz. My vision blurred up for about three minutes and I started freaking out.
I find it easier to print stereograms like these. Perhaps even re-position them really close to each other in GIMP before printing it out. they seem to be easier to "lock on" on paper than on screen. There's just no way I can see them on screen.
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I still say Titan is interesting, but it's not the ticket that's going to inspire the everyday person to learn more about the possibilities of Space research. I love the adventure of truly great scientific endeavors, but more people need to be inspired for NASA to get the funding it deserves IMO.
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Oh yeah, look it's a sailboat.
It looks like there's mold growing on my computer screen.
I can't see stereoviews, I only have one eye.. you insensitive clod!
You already have the equipment. Just cross your eyes while looking at it until your eyes focus and click. You'll know what I mean when you get it right.
After all, I am strangely colored.
Look at them closely and go crosseyed so both images appear to go over each other.
Then, it still won't look 3d as there is no frame of reference in the pictures.
Aggg! Oh god help! My eyes are stuck this way, I can't see shit, I keep falling down! Send help!
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I can imagine millions of slashdotters around the world all going crosseyed at this. Brilliant :)
I'm kinda the same way. My eyes dont like working together much. Trying to describe the way you 'see' is something that's hard to write it words. It's like I have a 'Main' and 'Secondary' vision which I can switch between eyes, it's rather . . . weird . . anyways it causes the same thing, those stare-o-grams, 3d-glasses, anything of the sort I can't do.
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Firstly, it would be beneficial if the images were separated by a black space. Having the images touching each other requires being a 'real' pinhead for viewing. Secondly, if wearing glasses, take them off; as the lenses of the glasses (which are doing what they are meant to do ... focus each eye independently), do not lend themselves to viewing stereoscopic images.
I'm good at them, and I still couldn't get much out of those besides a headache. Here's a bunch of better ones, just to show that they don't suck universally.
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One name for it is wandering eye, for the effect it has on one's appearance. (You look like one eye is fake because it doesn't track with the other) I had surgery to correct it as small child, but it didn't work worth a damn. I can't see 3D for shit. Forget about "magic eye" pictures and side by side 3D. Very nice pair of blurry pictures there, is all I can see. on the other hand, peripheral vision is pretty good with a wider field of view than normal humans.
Relax let the stereoscopic image flow through you.. Master I just can't see it. Relax your eyes you must.. Master it's impossible. Know you already what is possible and what is not? But I'm trying, I just can't see this teapot or whatever. hmph do or do not, there is no try.. ...grumble...grumble
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...stereoscopic images of Uranus.
With very slight additional effort these researchers could have released a terrain model based on the paralax offset of features in the image and saved us all from straining our eyes.
The Titan imaging results are simply fantastic. Huygens landed in an area that is analogous to a terrestrial dry lake bed wetted by an upland stream network fed by methane rain! How often does it rain? Are there large weather systems on titan? Convective storms? What about the black stuff on the lake bed and at the bottom of the streams? What is it made of? Is is particulate like terrestrial sediments? I am a little disappointed that we haven't heard more speculation from project scientists. I think the Cassini/Huygens project has been somewhat guarded about releasing preliminary results than the Mars Rover project.
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Also for some people it may help of you open the images in a photo editor, cut out one of the images and move it to the other side, then all you need to do is cross your eyes until the two images meet. I've always found it easier and less straining on the eyes if you do it this way.
Usually I "get it", but are these really bad, or did I have one too many beers on a Saturday?
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
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Just the thing to make my Computer Sciecne induced eye problema worse!
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At least for me that's the way it is. I can't do crosseyed ones at all but I can do the walleyed ones quite easily.
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The middle one looks a bit like a 3 fingered hand, just like most aliens have...
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Personally, I prefer wiggle images, where you make an animated GIF of two close-by images. You don't have to hurt your eyes, and it gives you a good idea of depth. Here's a web site with several "wiggle images" made from Mars Rover data:
http://space.brownpau.com/mars-rover-wiggles/
1500 imaginary mod points to whoever uses GIMP or Photoshop to cut the individual images out of the photos of Titan, makes an animated GIF out of them, and posts them online.
Those kick ass! Well, the second bunch. The work "smartfilter" firewalled me out of the first ones as pr0n, but the second bunch were so big on my work monitor I couldn't wall-eye them, but I managed to do it crossed for the first time! Yay! Thanks! Oh, and pretty streetlamps and potted plants....
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Or a schooner. You can see it in the DVD version. It's just a bunch of cones and rods.
I don't mean to belittle the accomplishment of getting the probe to titan, but as a lay person, none of the images that have come back have been all that impressive. What is the technical reason for this? Is it a bandwidth issue? Or were these launched long enough ago that this quality of images was state of the art for spacecraft?
Hint... this works for everything :) Any pictures you find with a very large "perspective" component will work out fairly well if you simply duplicate it, and put it side-by-side with itself. Your mind is great at inferring perspective, even when the pictures weren't actually taken in a stereoscopic manner.
You might enjoy the extra fun of bringing a movie with a high "perspective" component into VirtualDub. VirtualDub automatically shows the movie side-by-side as you scan through it. If you don't apply any effects, then you have a fairly stereoscopic display.
You need to go the reverse of cross-eyed to look at stereoscopic images correctly
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If you have to strain your eyes then you are doing it the wrong way and you wont get a very good 3D effect
-Normal way of looking at something-
object
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-Correct way to looks at a stereoscopic image- (very relaxed eyes)
object
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-Incorrect way- (going cross-eyed)
object
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That was funny
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You fucking dumbass.
You fucking dumbER-ass.
- These pairs seem to be taken with different filters. This would, at least, explain why the two images seem to emphasize different details.
- divergent stereo??? divergent stereo is WAY harder to do than cross-eyed stereo. Many people can't do divergent without mechanical aids (especially with larger images). My mothe, who'se an optometrist thinks that it's almost impossible (compared to cross-eyed stereo)
- I'm not ssure if they're corrrectly rotated. For stereo images like this, the horizontal line should be coplanar to the location of the two lenses used to take the picture. I'm guessing that the pictures were just chosen for the leftmost and the rightmost, but no matching rotation was done.
(Just an FYI: I used to own a stereo camera (stereo realist) I've still got a thousand or so images in my archive. Since losing the camera, I've also done my own setero pairs 'the hard way', so I've gotten reasonably good at doing this)If anybody knows the layout of the peobe well enough to draw the line which would be coplanar to the two lenses, I'd be happy to rotate the images (and swap them, too, if need be)
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Jigglevision is a simple technique that makes it easy for even cyclopses to percieve depth in pairs of stereo images. No headaches or eye strain or anything.
About 10% of the population is stereo-blind, and most stereo-blind folks don't even know it. It's not really a serious disability - except in cases like this.
But I only have one eye, you insensitive clod! ;-)
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Or so you'd think by listening to the descent radar. Not sure if it's more closely related to Pitfall or ET though?
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Here are the images from the article, in JiggleVision. Unfortunately the data is so horrendous there's not much gained... one
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No, it's a scooner!
I don't get it.
Some poor bastard alien got his statue blown to bits and scattered all over teh solar system. That'll learn him.
Agreed, I was considering posting some versions with the two images swapped over so people could see them properly, but then I realised I dont have anywhere to host them and that any geek worth his sort can simply load them into a gaphics program of choice and mirror the whole image for the same effect.
Imvho it should be considered a general convention that SIRD (Single Image Random Dot) steriograms (the ones which look like static) should use the "wall-eyed" technique while the ones with two photos side by side should use the "cross-eyed" technique, as for images with any degree of detail, its impossible to defocus enough to see them (most people I believe cannot focus to points beyond infinity, and thus cannot see images wider than the width between their eyes).
As a slightly unrelated, but very fun application of steriograms, google for Quake2 abSIRD, most upwardly f*cked mod I've seen for any game (more so than text mode quake even).
I had no problem seeing the pictures of the graveyards and stuff that was on the first page. Ok then I can see 3d.. But I couldnt see shit on the space images.. Did anyone else?
What kind of idiot would think that this "parallel" stereo viewing method is a good idea, without special viewing equipment?
Cross-eye is far superior, as your eyes are naturally built to do that (e.g. if you hold your finger in front of your face and focus on it). It's just a matter of loosening up your association between going cross-eyed and focusing close-up.
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Stereograms, like these are a lot easier to see, even if you wear glasses or lenses.
found a forum on the DISR site. Why dont you post the question there?
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That must be old. It's all black and white. Of course, My Favorite Martian was too, so that makes sense.
No wait. He was from Mars. Hmm. That is something to think about.
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Do the words "all" and "its" really need their own hyperlinks? I know I'm not the first one to complain about this but please - how about just one or two links to the main story???
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Right. At least with the war in Iraq/Afghanistan I got a t-shirt.....Wait a minute, all I got from those was terrible fucking images also.
The handling of Titan results reminds me of the dead sea scrolls, where the data were guarded by a small number of scollars who were willing to take forever to publish definitive results.
As for Mars results not being startling, how many scientists before the mission believed they would be landing on evaporite deposits complete with concretions? None. Yet they were out there, yes speculating, as soon as they had gathered enough evidence for the definitive result.
You last statement is excessively foolish.
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To make things easier, here is a reconstruction with instruction.
Just sit back about 2 feet from the monitor and try to cross your eyes till you get something similar to the bottom group.
If there is a good response to this, I'll do the others.
Otherwise, you may be able to do them on your own after training with this:
Stereo Image of Titan with Training bars
I got it, and also on the dvd you can esily actually tell that it is a gri dof geometric shapes, stars etc.
That is right, you can actually pause it and see the stereogram if you like having yoru head that close to a tv screen.
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