I find in this that it's a sad thing that Microsoft can't seem to manage their own affairs, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and the utter lack of control.
So, it's not a big deal that they issued a patch, it's a big deal that they are freaking out about their ignorance of their own systems, procedures and processes..
Sheila: Time's have changed Our kids are getting worse They won't obey their parents They just want to fart and curse! Sharon: Should we blame the government? Mrs. Cartman: Or blame society? Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: Heck NO, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada Sheila: With all their beady little eyes And flapping heads so full of lies Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: We need to form a full assault Everyone: It's Canada's fault!
the OS that it ships with, at least in the article. However, we can all assume that the price is $200 HIGHER for the mandatory XP that' s preloaded and comes with a "system restore" CD (AKA the "loose all your shit CD")
Also of interst, this little turd of wisdom; "Microsoft has plans to deliver a 64-bit version of its Windows XP operating system for Athlon 64 desktops. Once that software is available, consumers will be able to make the step up to 64 bits. "
So, only by the grace of M$ are users allowed to "step up to 64 bits"... How considerate of M$ to bless with their oh so wonderful 0$....
Hmmm.. I haven't seen the *final* release yet so I can't say for sure what the level is of logging but the logs that smoothwall provides are very decent.
Using the adzapper method as I mentioned above is very, very good at knocking out ads, thus conserving bandwidth. It's very effective.
You can also modify the iptables to block outgoing traffic to certain sites or blocks. I've blocked access to/from *ALL* of Asia on mine at home and blocked all incoming Asian traffic on a customer site (20+ units on a 368kb cable modem) and NO ONE complains.
It even blocks email spam, in that any email that contains html code that ad driven, such as from a cgi ad server, gets blocked right in the email program, no matter the platform, Linux, win32, OE, kmail, whatever. If it comes in on port 80, it gets ad filtering. You can fine tune the system as much as you want, remember, smoothwall is Linux and it's really a stripped down Redhat. With IPTables, *YOU* are in control of all incoming and outgoing traffic, to whatever your skill level permits. Smoothwall has basic iptables tuning tools but you can manually edit them any way you like..
When you use smoothwall and setup another machine as a mail server that runs spamassassin, you will be amazed how much bullshit you stop and how much bandwidth you conserve.
Set up a mailserver and point all internal machines to it. It can also virus scan incoming email too.
If you really want to stop the nonsense you can, smoothwall is a good, easy to use system, but it's just *one* of the several tools you'll need to deploy to get your system under control..
I've been using Smoothwall 2.0 beta X for over a year now and I've had very few problems.
The most recent I'm using is Pendolino and it's great.
I have installed several customer sites with Beta5 (after extensive testing at my site) and they are all very pleased with it.
I highly recomend it. You can take an old PC and load it up and really be covered. It's very easy to use, very reliable, very flexible.
What's even better is that you can use the built in, transparent proxy (squid) to block ads. (sorry/., your ads too)..
I made a dull gray "this ad zapped" gif and put it in/home/httpd/zaps and edited the wrapzap file to tell adzapper to look on smoothwall ofr it's images rather than using the resources of sourceforge. I found that the black and yellow gif was more annoying than the ads it was blocking.
Man, it's great. EVERY machine that I plug into my lan automatically gets it's ads zapped. Friends and customers are freaked out and impressed with that. Then after seeing how cool it is they want a smoothwall too. Problem is I end up setting them all up for free..;-/
Darl's brother Darl will trot out the Chewbacca defense in the closing arguments, then the IBM suits will trot out our Hero in Shining Armor's Top 10 SCO Barbs and totally destroy the Chebacca defense.
It will be a bloodbath. I say that they allow camera's in the court room, this will be entertainment on a stellar scale.
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
Yeah, I have to admit, I got a little excited when my Suse 9 professional DVD's arrived in the mail. I just couldn't help it. Now, can someone help me find my razor? I can't seem to see all of a sudden and it's time to shave my palms again..
Around here the cable ** TV ** service is piss poor. The picture is god awful, you can get a better picture with rabbit ears. Besides, I get satellite which looks great and has 100% uptime, versus TWanker TV which is flakey, goes out often.
BUT, the Cable INTERNET service is very, very reliable.
I would love to have some of those oldies, just for nostalgia sake. Some of the old games were really fun then, simple, clean fun.
I've got boxloads of old 386 and 286 mobos. One of these days I'm going to screw them all to the walls and ceiling so that ALL of room is completely covered with computer mother boards. Then I will have a REAL computer room..
Nothing is more annoying that going out to eat and some asshole is hollering on a freaking phone, "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?" every 10 seconds as he chats with his pals about absolute nonsense while you are trying to have a quiet dinner.
Not too long ago they had phone booths in restaurants and if you had to talk to someone you went to the phone booth and closed the door.
I do not give a shit, nor do I want to hear other people's conversations. I don't want to hear beepers or cellphones going off.
Why do people have to make so damn much noise? Loud motors, loud stereos, loud machinery, loud computers, loud refrigerators, everyone has to be noisy. And as the noise level goes up, people holler louder to go over it.
When I was a little kid I HATED when my mother used to tell me "Silence is golden".. Now I know how very right she was.
Yes. Don't jump on the bandwagon the day stuff hits the streets, wait until it hits the streets. As in the curb. People are throwing away old systems like mad now. I just picked up a CLEAN (non smoker) PII 400 with a CDR & a CDRW & a ZIP. 8 gigs, plus loaded with win98 and and a few games. All I had to do was pick up up from a trash pile and wipe the dust off of it. The power supply was dead. It works GREAT now. Yeah, slow but, it was all but free. $15 for a new ATX power supply and I have a PC that people would have once KILLED to have.
Guess what? Load it up with Linux and you've got a damn nice server for next to nothing.
I've got dozens and dozens up more dozens of old PC's this way. Just drive and and scan the rubish heaps, see something, stop and grab it. It's FREE..
I have no use on earth for all the "bundled" and "value added" crap they throw in with the drive, if they think the software is so freaking valuable, how about they keep it and sell me the drive for a bigger discount?
They beat on that tired, dead horse that "Cable-modem service can be as fast for downloads as several megabits per second, though the speed can suffer if several users in one neighborhood log on at once."
Um, nope. The cable providers make allowance for that. That's so worn out. ALL the DSL providers trot that dead horse out in every DSL v. Cable discussion.
I had SBC DSL and it was absolute SHIT, plus they screwed me everytime someone down in billing farted.. I dropped them and got RoadRunner. They penalize me an extra $5 a month because I have internet only, I don't have cable-TV. With the penalty and tax, I pay $54 a month for bad ass speed.
I can download the latest distro at the rate of about 25 minutes per 700mb ISO.. That's plenty fast for me. And all my neighbors are on RR too. No problem...
IBM DOS was the only thing for sale where I was working, we didn't stock, carry or offer MS-DOS until the AT&T 6300 came out. We had never heard of MS-DOS before then. One of the drawbacks of working for a big corporation..
Development of MS-DOS and PC-DOS began in October 1980, when IBM began searching the market for an operating system for the yet-to-be-introduced IBM PC.
IBM had originally intended to use Digital Research's (actually, they had the somewhat pretentious name of "Intergalactic Digital Research" at the time) CP/M was then the industry standard operating system - you either ran a BASIC with disk functions, someone's proprietary OS, or CP/M.
Folklore reports various stories about the rift between DRI and IBM. The most popular story claims Gary Kildall or DRI snubbed the IBM executives by flying his airplane when the meeting was scheduled. Another story claims Kildall didn't want to release the source for CP/M to IBM, which would be odd, since they released it to other companies. One noted industry pundit claims Kildall's wife killed the deal by insisting on various contract changes. I suspect the deal was killed by the good ol' boy network. It's hard to imagine a couple of junior IBM executives giving up when ordered to a task as simple as licensing an operating system from a vendor. It wouldn't look good on their performance reports. It would be interesting to hear IBM's story...
IBM then talked to a small company called Microsoft. Microsoft was a language vendor. Bill Gates and Paul Allen had written Microsoft BASIC and were selling it on punched tape or disk to early PC hobbyists, which was probably a step up from the company's original name and goal - they were Traf-O-Data before, making car counters for highway departments.
Microsoft had no 8086 real operating system to sell, but quickly made a deal to license Seattle Computer Products' 86-DOS operating system, which had been written by Tim Paterson earlier in 1980 for use on that company's line of 8086, S100 bus micros. 86-DOS (also called QDOS, for Quick and Dirty Operating System) had been written as more or less a 16-bit version of CP/M, since Digital Research was showing no hurry in introducing CP/M-86. Paterson's DOS 1.0 was approximately 4000 lines of assembler source.
This code was quickly polished up and presented to IBM for evaluation. IBM found itself left with Microsoft's offering of "Microsoft Disk Operating System 1.0". An agreement was reached between the two, and IBM agreed to accept 86-DOS as the main operating system for their new PC. Microsoft purchased all rights to 86-DOS in July 1981, and "IBM Personal Computer DOS 1.0" was ready for the introduction of the IBM PC in October 1981. IBM subjected the operating system to an extensive quality-assurance program, reportedly found well over 300 bugs, and decided to rewrite the programs. This is why PC-DOS is copyrighted by both IBM and Microsoft.
It is sometimes amusing to reflect on the fact that the IBM PC was not originally intended to run MS-DOS. The target operating system at the end of the development was for a (not yet in existence) 8086 version of CP/M. On the other hand, when DOS was originally written the IBM PC did not yet exist! Although PC-DOS was bundled with the computer, Digital Research's CP/M-86 would probably have been the main operating system for the PC except for two things - Digital Research wanted $495 for CP/M-86 (considering PC-DOS was essentially free) and many software developers found it easier to port existing CP/M software to DOS than to the new version of CP/M. The IBM PC shipped without an operating system.
IBM didn't start bundling DOS until the second generation AT/339 came out. You could order one of three operating systems for your PC, assuming you popped for the optional disk drive and 64
Micro$haft is demanding.25 cents per STANDARD TELEVISION.
A license for manufacturers of certain consumer electronics devices. Pricing for this license is US$0.25 per unit for each of the following types of devices that use removable solid state media to store data: portable digital still cameras; portable digital video cameras; portable digital still/video cameras; portable digital audio players; portable digital video players; portable digital audio/video players; multifunction printers; electronic photo frames; electronic musical instruments; and standard televisions. Pricing for this license is US$0.25 per unit with a cap on total royalties of $250,000 per licensee. Pricing for other device types can be negotiated with Microsoft.
Excuse the fuck out of me but since when did TV sets begin, or ever, use a FAT??
TV sets were invented many, many years before Billy the THIEF was born.
Just sit back and watch your bills. The more you bitch, the more they charge you.
For a residential single DSL account with nothing fancy, dynamic IP, one email account, etc. SBC was ass raping me for an average of $500 ~ $600 a month.
Every time I called and bitched about it they ADDED ANOTHER (non-existent) DSL ACCOUNT to my bill and charged me $200 installation for it.
I finally told them to get fucked and physically cut the wire to my home, now the tail of the wire dangles from the pole and I'm on RR which kicks ass and they don't screw me.
It's not just me either, they did it to me at my office, they did it to three of my friends and they did it to another friend of mine in another county (still on SBC)..
Not to mention the serivce and quality of service was beyond piss poor...
I wouldn't have DSL again if it were FREE...
I have similar problem with my cell phone service, they keep adding shit on it that I don't ask for, like SMS and all sorts of *xx services (such as *50 to hear the weather report. Bullshit, look out the window.)
Every month I go through the meat grinder with them. One of these days someone is going to snap and go in some place and start whacking people. Overbilling rage, I'm sure there's a term for it..
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Please, someone make the flashbacks stop!
/.??
What's that? Stop logging into
I find in this that it's a sad thing that Microsoft can't seem to manage their own affairs, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and the utter lack of control.
So, it's not a big deal that they issued a patch, it's a big deal that they are freaking out about their ignorance of their own systems, procedures and processes..
Sheila: Time's have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Mrs. Cartman: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: Heck NO, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canada's fault!
the OS that it ships with, at least in the article. However, we can all assume that the price is $200 HIGHER for the mandatory XP that'
s preloaded and comes with a "system restore" CD (AKA the "loose all your shit CD")
Also of interst, this little turd of wisdom;
"Microsoft has plans to deliver a 64-bit version of its Windows XP operating system for Athlon 64 desktops. Once that software is available, consumers will be able to make the step up to 64 bits. "
So, only by the grace of M$ are users allowed to "step up to 64 bits"...
How considerate of M$ to bless with their oh so wonderful 0$....
Um, hello.. There is an alternative out there to M$....
Mandrake has a 64bit package NOW
as does
Suse Professional 9.0 64bit
as do several other distros, check them out here,
http://www.distrowatch.com/
I told you THIS was coming a long time ago!
$5 a month is a STEAL...
People should jump on this.
I wish the company doing this well.
More power to OSS!!
Since when did Darl's house have anything to do with all this??
Hmmm.. I haven't seen the *final* release yet so I can't say for sure what the level is of logging but the logs that smoothwall provides are very decent.
Using the adzapper method as I mentioned above is very, very good at knocking out ads, thus conserving bandwidth. It's very effective.
You can also modify the iptables to block outgoing traffic to certain sites or blocks.
I've blocked access to/from *ALL* of Asia on mine at home and blocked all incoming Asian traffic on a customer site (20+ units on a 368kb cable modem) and NO ONE complains.
It even blocks email spam, in that any email that contains html code that ad driven, such as from a cgi ad server, gets blocked right in the email program, no matter the platform, Linux, win32, OE, kmail, whatever. If it comes in on port 80, it gets ad filtering. You can fine tune the system as much as you want, remember, smoothwall is Linux and it's really a stripped down Redhat. With IPTables, *YOU* are in control of all incoming and outgoing traffic, to whatever your skill level permits. Smoothwall has basic iptables tuning tools but you can manually edit them any way you like..
When you use smoothwall and setup another machine as a mail server that runs spamassassin, you will be amazed how much bullshit you stop and how much bandwidth you conserve.
Set up a mailserver and point all internal machines to it. It can also virus scan incoming email too.
If you really want to stop the nonsense you can, smoothwall is a good, easy to use system, but it's just *one* of the several tools you'll need to deploy to get your system under control..
I've been using Smoothwall 2.0 beta X for over a year now and I've had very few problems.
/., your ads too)..
/home/httpd/zaps and edited the wrapzap file to tell adzapper to look on smoothwall ofr it's images rather than using the resources of sourceforge. I found that the black and yellow gif was more annoying than the ads it was blocking.
;-/
The most recent I'm using is Pendolino and it's great.
I have installed several customer sites with Beta5 (after extensive testing at my site) and they are all very pleased with it.
I highly recomend it. You can take an old PC and load it up and really be covered.
It's very easy to use, very reliable, very flexible.
What's even better is that you can use the built in,
transparent proxy (squid) to block ads. (sorry
I made a dull gray "this ad zapped" gif and put it in
Man, it's great. EVERY machine that I plug into my lan automatically gets it's ads zapped. Friends and customers are freaked out and impressed with that. Then after seeing how cool it is they want a smoothwall too. Problem is I end up setting them all up for free..
Smoothwall is very cool, get it....
Man, I have to know, when will Billy Mays begin hawking the DIY at home kit?
Nothing like sticking a dual-channel shunt into your own leg artery..
And if Billy is selling it I *know* it's A-OK !
Darl's brother Darl will trot out the Chewbacca defense in the closing arguments,
then the IBM suits will trot out our Hero in Shining Armor's
Top 10 SCO Barbs and totally destroy the Chebacca defense.
It will be a bloodbath.
I say that they allow camera's in the court room, this will be entertainment on a stellar scale.
"9. Custody Battle
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
Yeah, I have to admit, I got a little excited when my Suse 9 professional DVD's arrived in the mail. I just couldn't help it.
Now, can someone help me find my razor? I can't seem to see all of a sudden and it's time to shave my palms again..
Around here the cable ** TV ** service is piss poor. The picture is god awful, you can get a better picture with rabbit ears.
Besides, I get satellite which looks great and has 100% uptime, versus TWanker TV which is flakey, goes out often.
BUT, the Cable INTERNET service is very, very reliable.
Aw man! I would still kill to have a VIC-20!
I remember lusting for one, way back when.
I would love to have some of those oldies, just for nostalgia sake. Some of the old games were really fun then, simple, clean fun.
I've got boxloads of old 386 and 286 mobos.
One of these days I'm going to screw them all to the walls and ceiling so that ALL of room is completely covered with computer mother boards.
Then I will have a REAL computer room..
Just do this when you think somone is trying to take your picture..
Nothing is more annoying that going out to eat and some asshole is hollering on a freaking phone, "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?" every 10 seconds as he chats with his pals about absolute nonsense while you are trying to have a quiet dinner.
Not too long ago they had phone booths in restaurants and if you had to talk to someone you went to the phone booth and closed the door.
I do not give a shit, nor do I want to hear other people's conversations. I don't want to hear beepers or cellphones going off.
Why do people have to make so damn much noise? Loud motors, loud stereos, loud machinery, loud computers, loud refrigerators, everyone has to be noisy. And as the noise level goes up, people holler louder to go over it.
When I was a little kid I HATED when my mother used to tell me "Silence is golden".. Now I know how very right she was.
Jamm on baby...
Yes. Don't jump on the bandwagon the day stuff hits the streets, wait until it hits the streets. As in the curb. People are throwing away old systems like mad now.
I just picked up a CLEAN (non smoker) PII 400 with a CDR & a CDRW & a ZIP. 8 gigs, plus loaded with win98 and and a few games. All I had to do was pick up up from a trash pile and wipe the dust off of it. The power supply was dead. It works GREAT now. Yeah, slow but, it was all but free. $15 for a new ATX power supply and I have a PC that people would have once KILLED to have.
Guess what? Load it up with Linux and you've got a damn nice server for next to nothing.
I've got dozens and dozens up more dozens of old PC's this way. Just drive and and scan the rubish heaps, see something, stop and grab it. It's FREE..
Now, when will people start throwing P4's out??
I have no use on earth for all the "bundled" and "value added" crap they throw in with the drive, if they think the software is so freaking valuable, how about they keep it and sell me the drive for a bigger discount?
And why does the DVD software come on CDR's???
They beat on that tired, dead horse that "Cable-modem service can be as fast for downloads as several megabits per second, though the speed can suffer if several users in one neighborhood log on at once."
Um, nope. The cable providers make allowance for that. That's so worn out. ALL the DSL providers trot that dead horse out in every DSL v. Cable discussion.
I had SBC DSL and it was absolute SHIT, plus they screwed me everytime someone down in billing farted..
I dropped them and got RoadRunner.
They penalize me an extra $5 a month because I have internet only, I don't have cable-TV.
With the penalty and tax, I pay $54 a month for bad ass speed.
I can download the latest distro at the rate of about 25 minutes per 700mb ISO..
That's plenty fast for me. And all my neighbors are on RR too. No problem...
I will stick with RR, SBC can go to hell..
Are you kidding me?
Some dumbass modded an anti-Darl post as flamebait?
Ok, who gave mod points to an M$ Zealot??
What do Darl and dirty diapers have in common?
They are both full of shit and they both stink.
Time to change the diaper and the Darl.
IBM DOS was the only thing for sale where I was working, we didn't stock, carry or offer MS-DOS until the AT&T 6300 came out. We had never heard of MS-DOS before then. One of the drawbacks of working for a big corporation..
Anyway, you are right, here's the poop on DOS..
http://www.maxframe.com/HISZMSD.HTM
History of MS-DOS
By: Leven Antov
Development of MS-DOS and PC-DOS began in October 1980, when IBM began searching the market for an operating system for the yet-to-be-introduced IBM PC.
IBM had originally intended to use Digital Research's (actually, they had the somewhat pretentious name of "Intergalactic Digital Research" at the time) CP/M was then the industry standard operating system - you either ran a BASIC with disk functions, someone's proprietary OS, or CP/M.
Folklore reports various stories about the rift between DRI and IBM. The most popular story claims Gary Kildall or DRI snubbed the IBM executives by flying his airplane when the meeting was scheduled. Another story claims Kildall didn't want to release the source for CP/M to IBM, which would be odd, since they released it to other companies. One noted industry pundit claims Kildall's wife killed the deal by insisting on various contract changes. I suspect the deal was killed by the good ol' boy network. It's hard to imagine a couple of junior IBM executives giving up when ordered to a task as simple as licensing an operating system from a vendor. It wouldn't look good on their performance reports. It would be interesting to hear IBM's story...
IBM then talked to a small company called Microsoft. Microsoft was a language vendor. Bill Gates and Paul Allen had written Microsoft BASIC and were selling it on punched tape or disk to early PC hobbyists, which was probably a step up from the company's original name and goal - they were Traf-O-Data before, making car counters for highway departments.
Microsoft had no 8086 real operating system to sell, but quickly made a deal to license Seattle Computer Products' 86-DOS operating system, which had been written by Tim Paterson earlier in 1980 for use on that company's line of 8086, S100 bus micros. 86-DOS (also called QDOS, for Quick and Dirty Operating System) had been written as more or less a 16-bit version of CP/M, since Digital Research was showing no hurry in introducing CP/M-86. Paterson's DOS 1.0 was approximately 4000 lines of assembler source.
This code was quickly polished up and presented to IBM for evaluation. IBM found itself left with Microsoft's offering of "Microsoft Disk Operating System 1.0". An agreement was reached between the two, and IBM agreed to accept 86-DOS as the main operating system for their new PC. Microsoft purchased all rights to 86-DOS in July 1981, and "IBM Personal Computer DOS 1.0" was ready for the introduction of the IBM PC in October 1981. IBM subjected the operating system to an extensive quality-assurance program, reportedly found well over 300 bugs, and decided to rewrite the programs. This is why PC-DOS is copyrighted by both IBM and Microsoft.
It is sometimes amusing to reflect on the fact that the IBM PC was not originally intended to run MS-DOS. The target operating system at the end of the development was for a (not yet in existence) 8086 version of CP/M. On the other hand, when DOS was originally written the IBM PC did not yet exist! Although PC-DOS was bundled with the computer, Digital Research's CP/M-86 would probably have been the main operating system for the PC except for two things - Digital Research wanted $495 for CP/M-86 (considering PC-DOS was essentially free) and many software developers found it easier to port existing CP/M software to DOS than to the new version of CP/M. The IBM PC shipped without an operating system.
IBM didn't start bundling DOS until the second generation AT/339 came out. You could order one of three operating systems for your PC, assuming you popped for the optional disk drive and 64
They need to have a Gate$ pic with a pirate hat and an eye patch.
Or maybe a robbers mask and a gun.
Something to represent what a fucking thief this bastard is. The Borg is ok but he's mutated to a lower level than that.
Micro$haft is demanding .25 cents per STANDARD TELEVISION.
A license for manufacturers of certain consumer electronics devices. Pricing for this license is US$0.25 per unit for each of the following types of devices that use removable solid state media to store data: portable digital still cameras; portable digital video cameras; portable digital still/video cameras; portable digital audio players; portable digital video players; portable digital audio/video players; multifunction printers; electronic photo frames; electronic musical instruments; and standard televisions. Pricing for this license is US$0.25 per unit with a cap on total royalties of $250,000 per licensee. Pricing for other device types can be negotiated with Microsoft.
Excuse the fuck out of me but since when did TV sets begin, or ever, use a FAT??
TV sets were invented many, many years before Billy the THIEF was born.
Someone needs to put a stop to this stupidity.
Sign up for SBC DSL service.
Just sit back and watch your bills.
The more you bitch, the more they charge you.
For a residential single DSL account with nothing fancy, dynamic IP, one email account, etc. SBC was ass raping me for an average of $500 ~ $600 a month.
Every time I called and bitched about it they ADDED ANOTHER (non-existent) DSL ACCOUNT to my bill and charged me $200 installation for it.
I finally told them to get fucked and physically cut the wire to my home, now the tail of the wire dangles from the pole and I'm on RR which kicks ass and they don't screw me.
It's not just me either, they did it to me at my office, they did it to three of my friends and they did it to another friend of mine in another county (still on SBC)..
Not to mention the serivce and quality of service was beyond piss poor...
I wouldn't have DSL again if it were FREE...
I have similar problem with my cell phone service, they keep adding shit on it that I don't ask for, like SMS and all sorts of *xx services (such as *50 to hear the weather report. Bullshit, look out the window.)
Every month I go through the meat grinder with them. One of these days someone is going to snap and go in some place and start whacking people. Overbilling rage, I'm sure there's a term for it..