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Mandrake 9.0 for AMD 64-bit Technology
Wister285 writes "Mandrake Linux has released a version of their operating system that is compatible with AMD's 64-bit x86 architecture. This version is based upon Mandrake 9.0. In addition to this, Mandrake announced Corporate Server 2.1 for AMD64 to be released in April 2003 and MandrakeClustering for Opteron in June 2003. Although they say that you can download the operating system now, I cannot find any FTP servers. The press release is located on Mandrake's website."
Why would you say that it's avaliable for download ... and then not actually have it anywhere? Am I missing something?
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Hrm. Microsoft announces development of AMD's x86-64 Hammer solutions. Mainstream Linux distro's follow suit. Software companies are looking at Microsoft and saying, "We're going to follow Microsoft, they have the money." I wonder is Intel is rethinking their plan to ride that piece of shit they call the itanium 2.
Choose wisely you must...
Will it be enough to keep them afloat?
Is anyone really running Mandrake on a business server? I thought their target market was educational users and the desktop...
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Enterprise server is proprietary. You have to pay for it. Enterprise server isnt like Red Hat's standard linux distibution which is free.
Choose wisely you must...
You can download ES from RedHat's site after you've paid it. You can get the same RedHat minus the Orcale and clustering from any of RedHat's mirrors, just without support, and only a year of updates
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
Jeopardy style:
...or would that be DrakHammer.... or HammerDrak?
AMD & Linux-Mandrake
What is: "How do you make a flaming Hammer"?
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I'd love to get my hands on some blade servers running Mandrake on AMD64-x86. Testing a web or app server config on this hardware+OS might make them the new winners of the most server bang-for-the-buck contest.
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I did find what looks like the x86 64 bit version, but it's dated 2/12/2003, so I'm not sure if this it it.9 .0/x8 6_64/
ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/Mandrake/
the mandrake control center was very handy for my laptop running 802.11b PCMCIA, and the install was very smooth on my ThinkPad. However, in the end, I still ended up switching over to a different distro simply because I wasn't happy with the package management. The defaults were giving me no end of trouble for my perl modules, and overall I felt i could get better performance out of a more customizable (from the outset, such as Core Linux or Gentoo) distro. So while I think they are fine for a great many users, Mandrake turned out not to be my thing in the end. Also, I recommend against Apt4RPM on mandrake...bad experience on my wifes desktop box with that.
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AMD64 + Mandrake = faster porno DVD ripping!
With so much and so many on board with the x86-64 platform, it's fascinating that the industry leader [Intel] has all but written it all of as so much hype. Intel's line has never been that the Itanium is in the same league, which they consider to be nothing more than an extension of the 32 bit market. Intel's position on that is clear. Faster P4/Xeon, more cache, that's all anyone needs. (please resist the urge to throw in the old 640k quote) Itaniums are for bigger servers.
The irony is that IBM once, rather cavalierly, dismissed the PC, they learned the hard way, Intel seems bent on making a similar choice.
Do you need a 64 bit AMD? Well, hell yes, if your budget can afford it. Even /. drools a trough over the latest hi-tech toys and you know once the 64 bit systems hit shelves in the <$2000 range the floodgates will be open. Intel's best bet was/(may still be) Yamhill, but their pride would take a bruising following their little brother.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
everyone knows linux is a slut that supports any architecture as long as there's one person willing to port it.
whoer.
Liberty.
Now finally I'll be able to mmap 5GB file into
memory on my default distro...
Is whether the Fritz chip will be on AMD motherboards? If so, Mandrake may be in a corner.
http://www.notcpa.org/members.html?PHPSESSID=8641e 28acdce91511fd69a42ffdb05a7
http://antitcpa.alsherok.net/phpnuke/html/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF -8&q=AMD+%22Fritz+chip%22&btnG=Google+Sear ch
That means AMD users will be in a corner as well.
The OS is ready for download? What good does that do anyone when we won't see the processor until at least SEPTEMBER?!
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cool...she'll be glad you did.
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Fritz Google search
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
I have been a long time Mandrake user (for the last 3+ years, I think) but wanted to try the new RedHat 8. So (as I have /home as a separate partition) I wiped the root and reinstalled. I had a comple of immediate gripes with RH8. First of all, both my partitions have always been resier since 2.4.1. The fact that I couldn't (even under the "expert" mode) install a fresh copy to an already-formatted reiser partition I thought was silly. But I was willing to bend a bit and made the root /ext3.
But I came to find later that the ntfs.o module was no where to be found and I couldn't write (ro) my win2k partiiton. Which was a must. I tried compiling the included source but someone got all these errors just for the ntfs module. Very odd - I've been compiling my own kernels since 1.2.13 and never found these errors before (don't remember what they said now).
Finally, though my harddisk had DMA successfully enabled, I just couldn't convince RH8 to use DMA on my DVD drive - the absence of which made everything choppy. hdparm just told me that was not possible.
So I'm back with Mandrake 9.0. Which I'm generally happy with SAVE FOR ONE BIG HEADACHE. I installed the "dev workstation" setup. But I still find I must keep installing -devel.rpm's left and right. O.k., this isn't a real problem, but I've found that these -devel.rpm's and their dependencies are quite equally distributed across ALL 3 DARN CDs!! I normally have to put in 2 of the CDs if not 3 to install any one devel package. This is infuriating!! Why?
Motherboards, Blades and even a peek at Win64 at CeBit
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Ahem. Of the 12 CPU architectures you listed, the NT OS (3.51 and 4.0) has already been ported, boxed, shrinkwrapped and shipped to three of them (Alpha, MIPS and PowerPC), and if you think MS isn't going to ever ship an IA64 version of windows at some point, I have some prime real estate that I'd like to sell to you.
Granted that the MIPS and PPC versions of NT were effectively footnotes, but there they were.
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The location is http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#iso I'm pretty sure that is the 9.0 i586 release. Try research in the future.
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opteron == April
AMD64 == June
According to , there are almost 100,000 web servers running Mandrake (look for Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer).
;-)
I thought their target market was educational users and the desktop...
Think again
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According to Netcraft, there are almost 100,000 web servers running Mandrake (look for Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer).
I thought their target market was educational users and the desktop...
Think again
There's a little clause on the Mandrake page that says something to the effect of, "These are the available servers, more may be overloaded right now, but available later." What they are doing is checking the servers before they send users to them, to save our time. It seems that the mighty Mandrake servers were pre-emptively /.ed after their press announcement, but before it made it to these postings.
After all, what does it matter to you? Do you have a 64-bit processor right now? I thought not. So be patient, the nerds that beat you have really gained nothing.
How would one go about playing with the new 64bit x86 version of Mandrake. Do you need a hammer CPU? Does it run on 32bit processors?
I saw the Mandrake logo and was hoping that 9.1 was released... *sigh* just a bit longer.
Those r all ia32 and the old releases for IA64, Sparc, UltraSparc and Alpha.
:)
Try research in the future.
Try reading the hole page
hahaha FUCK you!
The whole idea behind x86-64 is that it is compatible with the x86 instruction set -- 32-bit processors. I'll assume they just mean that it was compiled/coded specifically FOR a 64-bit platform, since that would be the LOGICAL conclusion. (Since this is /. though, I figured I'd post this anyway.)
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Oh, Mandrake's not dead yet? How's their bankrupcy going?
I actually just got back from a presentation by AMD here at UIUC (and I won a free t-shirt, too). They oulined the whole hammer architecture and how it's going to be a good thing. By putting the north bridge/memory controller on the CPU die, they're able to cut the DRAM latency by 20% over Athlon! Anyone who's designed computer architectures knows that 20% is HUGE! It only takes 54 clock cycles to complete an instruction cycle, including memory access; if there's a cache hit it was around 30. Actually, the memory read process is started in parallel with the cache hit/miss test and then canceled if there's a hit. Memory bandwidth is also going to get pretty ahead of Intel. AMD is really going to step ahead of Intel with the new hammer architecture. In the future...multiple cores on a single die. That means a single chip, multi-processor system. That'll be huge for the server market! Tech talks are fun!
It's obviously more portable than Linux.
What does it mean for Madrake to announce "their" OS is compatible with a processor already known to be compatible with the current crop of 32-bit operating systems from x86? Did they just recompile the apps in their distro using a version of GCC capable of compiling code for the new AMD processor? Or did they just install their OS on a system with new the processor and decide to tell the world the good news? This doesn't sound terribly exciting.
A specific reference to the actual system used to manage the install, removal, and maintenance of packages (urpmi), or a vague discription of a black monitor icon you can click that will give you the option to add different programs? /. is supposed to be a tech savvy forum so people just say "urpmi." That has nothing to do with Linux or how user friendly urpmi is. If you tried Mandrake you would be able to install all the packages you ever wanted "WITHOUT" having to know how to even spell "urpmi." It is all part of a central "control panel," that a noob, like yourself, should be able to figure out. However, don't expect slashdotters to describe this system in your native "noob" speak (just click there and select . . .).
Again, all Linux users are not like that, just geeky slashdot linux users. Plenty of "non-techy" places to learn about Mandrake . . . why don't you check some of them out?
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Suse has led the ball to x86-64.
It is nice to see that MDK is ready though.
At linuxworld, RH said it would be Q3 till they had one ready.
You can get the same RedHat minus the Orcale and clustering from any of RedHat's mirrors, just without support, and only a year of updates
Admittedly, I bought RH way back in the day, but I've downloaded it now, and I just download updates whenever I want.
And I use yum instead of the icky up2date or the better but still not ideal apt-get.
May we never see th
This humble opinion comes from somebody who's sick and tired of having a sluggish Mandrake distro on his AMD Atlon. And don't tell me about Gentoo : I don't have a fast network connnection anyway, which pretty much rules it out.
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Ancient and obsolete versions don't help your argument. Yes, the release for other arches IN THE PAST. No they will not release them EVER AGAIN. Yes, they will release for IA64, sorry I left that in by mistake. Otherwise, MS is a one architecture outfit. You will never see anything they release run on any of the architectures I listed (except IA64 OBVIOUSLY and whatever CE runs on, which is largely irrelevant).
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