Actually, if you read the fine print for, say, the UltraLinux port, you'll find that the kernel is 64 bit and userland is still 32 bit. Now the *BSD on the other hand are much cooler in that regard.....
To be fair, don't even get me started on companies like Sun and SGI claiming they had 64 bit back in the mid 90's....their OS were 32/64 hybrids in many various and interesting ways also. Even in Solaris 8 there's issues if you run the 64 bit kernel, some commands don't work correctly when one hits the 32 bit limit!
this judge is no stranger to software disputes, she did the AT&T / BSD thing, and in a manner quite geek-friendly, too I might add. I think everyone needs to quit worrying about how the judge views SCO's claims
Having worked with Unixware / Openserver in the past when it was offered by a real software company, it's funny to see how the SCO newsgroups have totally dried up with 0 nonspam posts but for 1 which has maybe 16 threads in it, and another with 1 thread. I've interviewed for 2 jobs in the last 6 weeks where SCO-> Linux migration was being done for a couple HUGE corporations. This flavor of Unix(tm) once RULED the point-of-sale and franchise type of business. Were they smart, SCO/Caldera could have made a business strategy based on a clear migration with a drop-in replacement Linux system with premium-priced support based model their customers would gladly have paid, but they shot both their feet off instead.
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Google does allow use of their API, limit to 1,000 searches a day. So *some* types of automated query are allowed, and of course since Google provides the most supremely valuable internet service aside from being able to connect to the internet in the first place, let's everyone respect Google's terms of use!
you must be doing X, Y or X....nonsense, I have to keep up several HUGE software packages (e.g. Oracle's software, several Unix/Linux distros), and I routinely download huge loads of ISO's after midnight. My cable modem provider InsightBB has never complained), but from what I'm reading other ISP's do. Hmmm, my ISP actually brags in their ads about pandering to large file transfer users....and even have an option to upgrade upstream rate. I get about 150-340kbytes/sec downstream and 15Kbytes/sec upstream for $40 a month. Glad I don't have some of your ISPs!
Best sales, yes. Nothing else. One of our units didn't even have upgrade path though we were locked into 5 year contract. Phone lines for monitoring was actually part of their contract, by the way. They are the very worst SAN vendor I've ever had to deal with, HP and Hitachi being the best.
you miss the point, EMC didn't give a crap enough to even have the phone lines attached - it was their job & part of their contract
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Salemen that will wine, dine & fellate to get a contract, then nonexistent support on equipment that's 2 generations behind at 2 x the price of their competition. Where I used to work we had EMC SAN that never even had the phone lines attached that EMC was to use to dial in & monitor, and after asking about an upgrade for a unit they had to come and physically look inside the cabinet because they didn't even know what the **** they sold us. They got our pinhead CFO to sign an ironclad 5 year contract we couldn't get out of. Yay, EMC!
I've seen too many competent, serious scientists who are willing to put "wild & crazy" ideas to serious test; even dowsers have been tested under controlled conditions.
I would point out that if your father works in a large city or with structures larger than a duplex, you're going to find much the same situation as my example of the omnipresent water table (dig a hole anywhere within 100 miles of where I live deep enough and you WILL hit water, no question about it. Dig a hole anywhere within 100 feet of the 3 building x 52 unit complex along a major business corridor I live in and you will find all manner of cables, pipes, conduits, sewer lines)
heh, was the hip hop sound level 120 db at a distance of 10 feet from your car? Playing almost any kind of music with extreme volume will get one checked out by the boys in blue in some neighborhoods.
Science does believe in lifters, but they're just air ion engines, and I have to laugh at the very poor experimental technique and bad logic of those who try to "prove" they're anything but that. Dowsing: you know, anywhere in the part of the midwest I live in, you could jiggle your dowsing rod & be correct, there's a water table everywhere. Cold fusion: very reputable scientists have tried to duplicate the results, but could nothing conclusive found. Just as an aside, at U.of I. some of the senior physics professors did a number of interesting experiments to see if they could find a "fifth force" that some elements supposedly possess, and the reason I bring that up is that you're wrong if you think mainstream scientists will reject new ideas out of hand.
China's REAL nuclear capability is pretty limited - they have 20 ICBM, which are liquid propelled (long pre-launch prep time) and immobile. They have ONE submarine which maybe could come to our coast (which has never ventured that far) Meanwhile, assuming we have a way to detect they are preparing an attack, we could destroy their entire ICBM arsenal within minutes, and hunt down & wipe out their one sub. Then we decide how many of our 6,000+ devices we want to spray all over their landscape.
Hard to beat very low cost of 100+ bushels of corn per acre. actually, with the revised U.N. estimates of 9 billion people by 2300 a.d., it seems we may not have the "exponential" growth in population we once thought we had. Farming the land & oceans for 50% more people, we probably can do that, just need to be a little smarter about it. The main problem is that we aren't yet managing/farming the oceans yet, just plundering.
Here, here! I'm very sorry the U.S. governemt is continuing the policy started by Jimmy Carter of snubbing Taiwan to gain the Chinese market. I would like for the U.S. to sell some nuclear weapons to Taiwan & some medium range missiles to deliver them. Also, to completely cut off communist governmets from doing any business with the U.S. Instead, we're sucking up to theseenslavers of man. Boooooooo.
SCO was making Linux its core business; what's stupid is they derailed their own train. Could have provided a solid path with support & consulting services for migrating from Unixware/OpenServer to their Linux distribution. Instead they chose lawsuits for profit. Well, we'll see what this gets them, I predict January will be not a happy new year in SCOsville.
As a 13 year Sun Sparc & Solaris customer, I can tell you the things you said are true of Solaris on Sparc, but for x86 it's a big question mark. Standards compliant? There are interesting issues porting Sparc code over to x86. Scalable? I don't see any evidence Solaris for x86 would go beyond 4 processors. Well supported? Sun has dropped Solaris x86 in the past, and picked it up again (for how long?) Maximum uptime - a couple of the BSD do as well in my experience for x86. As an aside, on single processor Sparc with limited memory (128M) Solaris certainly isn't the highest performance OS one can run.
"Also, let me really clear about our Linux strategy. We don't have one. We don't at all. We do not believe that Linux plays a role on the server. Period." -- Jonathan Swartz, Sun VP of Software, Sept 20, 2003
"Linux is a great environment for the hobbyist, but not for corporate IT shops" -- Scott McNealy, San Fran SunNetwork Conference 2003
Well, I'm not soooo old, because my freshman year was the last year my college had punched cards for the Honeywell mainframe. After that it was high tech 3270 type terminals with that nice slow green phosphur, no interlace/flicker headaches from those babies, I can tell you. That ended the hassle of signing up for the keypunch, or standing in line at the keypunch where you could do 12 cards or less for corrections. But also during my freshman year, the physics department acquired a shiny new IBM PC with 640kb ram, dual 360kb floppy disks, and cga graphics. I did many assignments with Turbo Pascal on that rather than Fortran on the mainframe. w00t.
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Actually, if you read the fine print for, say, the UltraLinux port, you'll find that the kernel is 64 bit and userland is still 32 bit. Now the *BSD on the other hand are much cooler in that regard..... To be fair, don't even get me started on companies like Sun and SGI claiming they had 64 bit back in the mid 90's....their OS were 32/64 hybrids in many various and interesting ways also. Even in Solaris 8 there's issues if you run the 64 bit kernel, some commands don't work correctly when one hits the 32 bit limit!
this judge is no stranger to software disputes, she did the AT&T / BSD thing, and in a manner quite geek-friendly, too I might add. I think everyone needs to quit worrying about how the judge views SCO's claims
Having worked with Unixware / Openserver in the past when it was offered by a real software company, it's funny to see how the SCO newsgroups have totally dried up with 0 nonspam posts but for 1 which has maybe 16 threads in it, and another with 1 thread. I've interviewed for 2 jobs in the last 6 weeks where SCO-> Linux migration was being done for a couple HUGE corporations. This flavor of Unix(tm) once RULED the point-of-sale and franchise type of business. Were they smart, SCO/Caldera could have made a business strategy based on a clear migration with a drop-in replacement Linux system with premium-priced support based model their customers would gladly have paid, but they shot both their feet off instead.
Google does allow use of their API, limit to 1,000 searches a day. So *some* types of automated query are allowed, and of course since Google provides the most supremely valuable internet service aside from being able to connect to the internet in the first place, let's everyone respect Google's terms of use!
you must be doing X, Y or X....nonsense, I have to keep up several HUGE software packages (e.g. Oracle's software, several Unix/Linux distros), and I routinely download huge loads of ISO's after midnight. My cable modem provider InsightBB has never complained), but from what I'm reading other ISP's do. Hmmm, my ISP actually brags in their ads about pandering to large file transfer users....and even have an option to upgrade upstream rate. I get about 150-340kbytes/sec downstream and 15Kbytes/sec upstream for $40 a month. Glad I don't have some of your ISPs!
Best sales, yes. Nothing else. One of our units didn't even have upgrade path though we were locked into 5 year contract. Phone lines for monitoring was actually part of their contract, by the way. They are the very worst SAN vendor I've ever had to deal with, HP and Hitachi being the best.
you miss the point, EMC didn't give a crap enough to even have the phone lines attached - it was their job & part of their contract
Salemen that will wine, dine & fellate to get a contract, then nonexistent support on equipment that's 2 generations behind at 2 x the price of their competition. Where I used to work we had EMC SAN that never even had the phone lines attached that EMC was to use to dial in & monitor, and after asking about an upgrade for a unit they had to come and physically look inside the cabinet because they didn't even know what the **** they sold us. They got our pinhead CFO to sign an ironclad 5 year contract we couldn't get out of. Yay, EMC!
I've seen too many competent, serious scientists who are willing to put "wild & crazy" ideas to serious test; even dowsers have been tested under controlled conditions. I would point out that if your father works in a large city or with structures larger than a duplex, you're going to find much the same situation as my example of the omnipresent water table (dig a hole anywhere within 100 miles of where I live deep enough and you WILL hit water, no question about it. Dig a hole anywhere within 100 feet of the 3 building x 52 unit complex along a major business corridor I live in and you will find all manner of cables, pipes, conduits, sewer lines)
heh, was the hip hop sound level 120 db at a distance of 10 feet from your car? Playing almost any kind of music with extreme volume will get one checked out by the boys in blue in some neighborhoods.
How about feeding the device with propane or acetylene, and mounting an inductive spark-gap igniter about 2' from the opening.
Gee, I'm a pop of two, and I'm using Gnome and GIMP to edit family photos.
nah, let's do classical Newtonian teleportation first.
haha - where do you think the ice for the iceboxes came from since the 1870's?????? From refrigeration systems!!
Science does believe in lifters, but they're just air ion engines, and I have to laugh at the very poor experimental technique and bad logic of those who try to "prove" they're anything but that. Dowsing: you know, anywhere in the part of the midwest I live in, you could jiggle your dowsing rod & be correct, there's a water table everywhere. Cold fusion: very reputable scientists have tried to duplicate the results, but could nothing conclusive found. Just as an aside, at U.of I. some of the senior physics professors did a number of interesting experiments to see if they could find a "fifth force" that some elements supposedly possess, and the reason I bring that up is that you're wrong if you think mainstream scientists will reject new ideas out of hand.
China's REAL nuclear capability is pretty limited - they have 20 ICBM, which are liquid propelled (long pre-launch prep time) and immobile. They have ONE submarine which maybe could come to our coast (which has never ventured that far) Meanwhile, assuming we have a way to detect they are preparing an attack, we could destroy their entire ICBM arsenal within minutes, and hunt down & wipe out their one sub. Then we decide how many of our 6,000+ devices we want to spray all over their landscape.
Hard to beat very low cost of 100+ bushels of corn per acre. actually, with the revised U.N. estimates of 9 billion people by 2300 a.d., it seems we may not have the "exponential" growth in population we once thought we had. Farming the land & oceans for 50% more people, we probably can do that, just need to be a little smarter about it. The main problem is that we aren't yet managing/farming the oceans yet, just plundering.
Here, here! I'm very sorry the U.S. governemt is continuing the policy started by Jimmy Carter of snubbing Taiwan to gain the Chinese market. I would like for the U.S. to sell some nuclear weapons to Taiwan & some medium range missiles to deliver them. Also, to completely cut off communist governmets from doing any business with the U.S. Instead, we're sucking up to theseenslavers of man. Boooooooo.
SCO was making Linux its core business; what's stupid is they derailed their own train. Could have provided a solid path with support & consulting services for migrating from Unixware/OpenServer to their Linux distribution. Instead they chose lawsuits for profit. Well, we'll see what this gets them, I predict January will be not a happy new year in SCOsville.
As a 13 year Sun Sparc & Solaris customer, I can tell you the things you said are true of Solaris on Sparc, but for x86 it's a big question mark. Standards compliant? There are interesting issues porting Sparc code over to x86. Scalable? I don't see any evidence Solaris for x86 would go beyond 4 processors. Well supported? Sun has dropped Solaris x86 in the past, and picked it up again (for how long?) Maximum uptime - a couple of the BSD do as well in my experience for x86. As an aside, on single processor Sparc with limited memory (128M) Solaris certainly isn't the highest performance OS one can run.
"Also, let me really clear about our Linux strategy. We don't have one. We don't at all. We do not believe that Linux plays a role on the server. Period." -- Jonathan Swartz, Sun VP of Software, Sept 20, 2003
"Linux is a great environment for the hobbyist, but not for corporate IT shops" -- Scott McNealy, San Fran SunNetwork Conference 2003
Try to do anything useful with Debian for Sparc on my SS 5 was like that too - broken ports, errors during compiles from source, etc.
Sun is the "mystery licencee" who recently gave SCO a huge pile of cash last July. SCO is therefore leaving Sun alone.
naw, best of all is vt220 terminal plugged into serial ports on the back of my Sparcstation 5 and Ultra 170e.
Well, I'm not soooo old, because my freshman year was the last year my college had punched cards for the Honeywell mainframe. After that it was high tech 3270 type terminals with that nice slow green phosphur, no interlace/flicker headaches from those babies, I can tell you. That ended the hassle of signing up for the keypunch, or standing in line at the keypunch where you could do 12 cards or less for corrections. But also during my freshman year, the physics department acquired a shiny new IBM PC with 640kb ram, dual 360kb floppy disks, and cga graphics. I did many assignments with Turbo Pascal on that rather than Fortran on the mainframe. w00t.