we software developers with slower machines have discovered this cool utility called "make", so usually the core stuff of the project doesn't need to be compiled, just the recently changed newer stuff.
1GHz?????? bah, my 300MHz Pentium II runs Microsoft Office 2000, MS-Project, and even AutoCAD just fine. And the latest RedHat Linux is running just fine on my 500MHz Celeron, and I have Oracle 9 & PostgresQL 7.2 running in there.
Meanwhile, my internet domain is hosted on a 70MHz Sparc running OpenBSD......
I'd say the point of diminishing returns for NORMAL user with e-mail, little word processing, tax software on WinTel is somewhere in the 400MHz with 128MB of memory range.
I *DID* put the same users in front of Solaris and IRIX boxes and my life was much easier.
Funny, no one ever called me needing help changing mouse click speed, real corporate administration is involves much more serious tasks, like install/upgrade of software, changing network settings, restoring backups.......all of which are MUCH easier to do on a network of Unix systems. I've done NT admin for 7 years and Novell admin for 5 years, by the way.
One of the benefits of Windows is that everyday users can do most system administration tasks.
You must be joking, I've run myself RAGGED supporting networks of PC's operated by (ab)users who could not even grasp the concept of a subdirectory or network drive pointing to an area on the server. But 99% of Unix admin I could do from my chair......
4:00am in Rockford, 70 miles NW of chicago, somewhat hazy but can see stars...a few VERY bright trails every 10 minutes or so...too bad too much city light. Would like to get at least one of these bright streaks on film...no success doing that yet
I'm utterly fascinated that you believe everything Microsoft's marketing department tells you.....maybe you should try a google search on Windows XP compatibility problems: you'll find some adobe products won't run, Corel Wordperfect 2002 won't until Service Pack 2, etc. etc.
of course, in the Open Source world, we can recompile Hello World or other programs using standard API's, but alas not my Micsoft Visual Studio 5.0 Professional (academic edition) which doesn't want to work on Windows 98 or later
(Of course, back in those halcyon days, all electronic devices came with a manual and a schematic so an electronics tech could repair them.)
You know, you just reminded me of the transistor radios, cassette recorders and TV's of the 70's and prior years with the schematics and circuit tuning instructions affixed to the inside back cover. Open Hardware! Doesn't reveal any IP that a competitors reverse engineering teams aren't going to quickly find out anyway.
..and the Unix and unix-like operating systems are following suit. I helped my friend install RedHat 8 on his T22 laptop because he wanted to get back into Unix. Seven years ago when we worked with SunOS, an install could easily fit on a 424MB disk including all X11R4 and OpenLook stuff. He was horrified that we had to carve out more than 2GB for/usr and 100MB for/var (heck RedHat reccommends 384MB for var!!????) and > 80MB for/.
The REALLY old Byte from circa 1976 and the next six years was the really good stuff - hardware projects, language design, heavy programming including assembler.
It's what got me (starting at age 12) into all aspects of computers: theory, hardware, firmware, communications, and software.
So sad that it became just another PC Magazine + Computer Shopper. bleah!:(
Several studies have shown that women use their brain differently. Women tend to distribute the processing over smaller segments around the brain.... This would also explain why women tend to recover from strokes faster
I knew it! They've got neural Beowolf clusters in their heads, and they use it to produce PUSH MEDIA into our ears! And the reason why they change their minds so often, it's feedback fed dynamic modification of the cluster quota!
cmgi acquired it, and the upper management morons of cmgi only know how to acquire, bleed and destroy companies, with no long term business plan other than to just waste the stock holders money buying more companies in the hopes they blunder into something good. Now cmgi is liquidating their companies as their cash pile dwindles to zero...maybe Altavista will get lucky and be sold off to someone who knows what to do with it.
All of this has been a major advancement in computer science
yes, that is ALL the HURD is about...it has nonething whatever to do with doing real live WORK....no one is going to be running the HURD in a data center in the next 5 years to do business. Linux can easily do all kinds of REAL LIVE WORK you'll never be able to get the HURD to do.
I have no doubt that had Linux not come along, there would have been more man power and efforts put into the Hurd these past years.
Really, this is getting to be too much.....after over a decade of floundering around, the FSF has yet to produce anything even remotely useful as a production operating system kernel. Linus and the people who worked on Linux did that in 7 - 8 years.
It's great what the FSF has done, to give the world a compiler to produce free software, and the tools and utilities to make Linux and other OS's a finished OS. And even the Hurd as a computer science experimental kernel to play with new ideas.
But it is ridiculous to say that Linux has distracted from the Hurd effort....the Hurd simply is not about designing a useful kernel.....it is a playground for ideas in OS architecture, and it will be many more years of flounder/play/redesign before it is known what ideas in there will even be useful for a production kernel,
I would bet money that anyone who lived for 8-10 hours a day in an office cubicle staring at sheets of PAPER would have these same effects, or who worked an adding machine all day.....
That's when the three major powers in the human universe make an alliance - the Lion Throne, the Spacing Guild, and CHOAM...it happened about 16,200a.d.
Being a Dune fan, I actually made a calendar with both Christian and Guild dates. Gotta format it up in html....
couldn't there be standard software packages and also libraries of already-tweaked code to run on the cruncher? Looks like another great application for Open Source methodology.
Nevertheless this should scare any officers of troubled corporations with a heavy investment in Microsoft server licenses.....I laugh as I remember the C.E.O. of my former employer telling me he was "scared of Open Source software". With the HUGE farm of 8 and 4-way servers running MS-SQL, he should be scared of Billy-ware.
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we software developers with slower machines have discovered this cool utility called "make", so usually the core stuff of the project doesn't need to be compiled, just the recently changed newer stuff.
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1GHz?????? bah, my 300MHz Pentium II runs Microsoft Office 2000, MS-Project, and even AutoCAD just fine. And the latest RedHat Linux is running just fine on my 500MHz Celeron, and I have Oracle 9 & PostgresQL 7.2 running in there.
Meanwhile, my internet domain is hosted on a 70MHz Sparc running OpenBSD......
I'd say the point of diminishing returns for NORMAL user with e-mail, little word processing, tax software on WinTel is somewhere in the 400MHz with 128MB of memory range.
I *DID* put the same users in front of Solaris and IRIX boxes and my life was much easier. Funny, no one ever called me needing help changing mouse click speed, real corporate administration is involves much more serious tasks, like install/upgrade of software, changing network settings, restoring backups.......all of which are MUCH easier to do on a network of Unix systems. I've done NT admin for 7 years and Novell admin for 5 years, by the way.
BeOS certainly was fun & interesting...but it would need a corporate champion or three just as Linux had to get business to take it seriously.
One of the benefits of Windows is that everyday users can do most system administration tasks.
You must be joking, I've run myself RAGGED supporting networks of PC's operated by (ab)users who could not even grasp the concept of a subdirectory or network drive pointing to an area on the server. But 99% of Unix admin I could do from my chair......
4:00am in Rockford, 70 miles NW of chicago, somewhat hazy but can see stars...a few VERY bright trails every 10 minutes or so...too bad too much city light. Would like to get at least one of these bright streaks on film...no success doing that yet
I'm utterly fascinated that you believe everything Microsoft's marketing department tells you.....maybe you should try a google search on Windows XP compatibility problems: you'll find some adobe products won't run, Corel Wordperfect 2002 won't until Service Pack 2, etc. etc.
of course, in the Open Source world, we can recompile Hello World or other programs using standard API's, but alas not my Micsoft Visual Studio 5.0 Professional (academic edition) which doesn't want to work on Windows 98 or later
(Of course, back in those halcyon days, all electronic devices came with a manual and a schematic so an electronics tech could repair them.)
You know, you just reminded me of the transistor radios, cassette recorders and TV's of the 70's and prior years with the schematics and circuit tuning instructions affixed to the inside back cover. Open Hardware! Doesn't reveal any IP that a competitors reverse engineering teams aren't going to quickly find out anyway.
..and the Unix and unix-like operating systems are following suit. I helped my friend install RedHat 8 on his T22 laptop because he wanted to get back into Unix. Seven years ago when we worked with SunOS, an install could easily fit on a 424MB disk including all X11R4 and OpenLook stuff. He was horrified that we had to carve out more than 2GB for /usr and 100MB for /var (heck RedHat reccommends 384MB for var!!????) and > 80MB for /.
come to think of it, the IBM PC and clones are what killed Byte.
The REALLY old Byte from circa 1976 and the next six years was the really good stuff - hardware projects, language design, heavy programming including assembler.
:(
It's what got me (starting at age 12) into all aspects of computers: theory, hardware, firmware, communications, and software.
So sad that it became just another PC Magazine + Computer Shopper. bleah!
Several studies have shown that women use their brain differently. Women tend to distribute the processing over smaller segments around the brain.... This would also explain why women tend to recover from strokes faster
I knew it! They've got neural Beowolf clusters in their heads, and they use it to produce PUSH MEDIA into our ears! And the reason why they change their minds so often, it's feedback fed dynamic modification of the cluster quota!
But have you taken steps to protect your intelligence as you get older?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/832140.asp?cp1=1
My wife should be thankful I've helped her out in this regard......
Also, there was SCO Xenix for the 8088 and 8086 in 1983, and then SCO Xenix 286 in 1985.
http://stage.caldera.com/about/history.html
I used to run Coherent on my 286; I wonder if it would be legal to post the binaries since the company (Mark Williams Co.) is defunct?
PACHYDERM: n any of various nonruminant hoofed mammals (as an elephant, a rhinocerous....... Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary (1976 version)
cmgi acquired it, and the upper management morons of cmgi only know how to acquire, bleed and destroy companies, with no long term business plan other than to just waste the stock holders money buying more companies in the hopes they blunder into something good. Now cmgi is liquidating their companies as their cash pile dwindles to zero...maybe Altavista will get lucky and be sold off to someone who knows what to do with it.
All of this has been a major advancement in computer science
yes, that is ALL the HURD is about...it has nonething whatever to do with doing real live WORK....no one is going to be running the HURD in a data center in the next 5 years to do business. Linux can easily do all kinds of REAL LIVE WORK you'll never be able to get the HURD to do.
Maybe in another 10 years.......
I have no doubt that had Linux not come along, there would have been more man power and efforts put into the Hurd these past years.
Really, this is getting to be too much.....after over a decade of floundering around, the FSF has yet to produce anything even remotely useful as a production operating system kernel. Linus and the people who worked on Linux did that in 7 - 8 years.
It's great what the FSF has done, to give the world a compiler to produce free software, and the tools and utilities to make Linux and other OS's a finished OS. And even the Hurd as a computer science experimental kernel to play with new ideas.
But it is ridiculous to say that Linux has distracted from the Hurd effort....the Hurd simply is not about designing a useful kernel.....it is a playground for ideas in OS architecture, and it will be many more years of flounder/play/redesign before it is known what ideas in there will even be useful for a production kernel,
I would bet money that anyone who lived for 8-10 hours a day in an office cubicle staring at sheets of PAPER would have these same effects, or who worked an adding machine all day.....
That's when the three major powers in the human universe make an alliance - the Lion Throne, the Spacing Guild, and CHOAM...it happened about 16,200a.d. Being a Dune fan, I actually made a calendar with both Christian and Guild dates. Gotta format it up in html....
hmmm, makes me wonder if there were hairy versions of all pachyderms we have today
couldn't there be standard software packages and also libraries of already-tweaked code to run on the cruncher? Looks like another great application for Open Source methodology.
Nevertheless this should scare any officers of troubled corporations with a heavy investment in Microsoft server licenses.....I laugh as I remember the C.E.O. of my former employer telling me he was "scared of Open Source software". With the HUGE farm of 8 and 4-way servers running MS-SQL, he should be scared of Billy-ware.
...I meant to add, that of course Guinness Stout would be my fluidic medium of choice for this!