Sophos included worms and trojans in their top 12 list, which I consider a seperate problem to spam.
Many consider any unsolicited and unwanted email spam, because it makes the numbers look much bigger. But think about it, if my uncle sends me an email, I never solicited it, and I don't really want to talk to him, so is it spam? No. What about all those "crazy hilarious jokes" people keep forwarding me? I dont want that shit, is it spam? No.
That's how activist groups work these days. IMO they belittle the problem while they try to blow it out of proportion.
As another example, back when I was in school, a bunch of feminist grad students did a survey about "rape and sexual abuse" on campus. They concluded that 2 out of 3 girls were raped while attending the school. Since the girls outnumbered boys 2-1, it meant that every male must be raping one or two girls a year. What the fuck was wrong with that? I knew I'd never raped anyone, and as far as I knew none of my male friends had, and no girl I knew was ever raped. In fact, in my 4 years there, I only heard of one actual case of rape (which is still one too many).
I looked at the survey they sent out. It didn't say anything about rape. It had a question phrased like "did you ever have sex when you didnt want to?". There was my answer. Anyone who answered yes was ticked up in the "raped" column.
Unwanted sex isn't rape. If you throw one out on your anniversary, even though you dont feel like it, it isn't rape, and to try and twist the facts to include it as "rape", belittles and insults all the real victims. If your a girl and screw some guy because you think it'll make him like you, you're a slut - not a rape victim.
Activists are full of shit, beware anything you hear from someone with an agenda.
I'm hearing that a lot of linux newbies are running full blown sendmail servers on their home connections, and don't know how to set them up properly, so they happily allow people to anonymously relay mail through them.
RTFA, the spammers aren't in america, the zombied boxes they use to relay spam are.
No doubt windows in Korea or China is just as insecure, but does the average housewife in Korea have a 3.6ghz P4 with a gig of RAM and 120 gig HDD?
Plus, most of Asia has been RBTL'ed by now, no point in spamming from compromised Korean box.
I think that given sheer amount of insecure PCs with respectable specs in US, that are connected 24/7, the list makes alot of sense.
PS, upon re-reading, Sophos also includes Worms and trojans in their statistic, many big email worms have exploited a bug only exists in the US version of OE, IIRC, so now the list makes even more sense.
Didn't the little prince catch comets to travel around?
I only remember it as the gayest (in the literal sense) thing ever to air on the publicly funded TVO. I remember pulling my hair wondering "WHERES THE BEAR CALLED JEREMY WHO CAN DO MOST ANYTHING!?!"
Ah the joys of growing up in rural Ontario, with only CBC, TVO and Global (on a really clear day) to watch.
I've listened to HHGTG, and without having read the books, I would have had no idea what the hell they were talking about. They moved too fast, it was hard to tell narration from dialogue, it was really hard to follow.
Maybe if you were accustomed to listening to radio drama it'd be easier, but fankly I can't imagine anyone other than a DA fan listening to it.
It's way more fun than any other FPS I've played online, largely because the matchmaking feature works and you don't have to spend 4 hours trying to find someone to play with.
It consistently finds me games to play in about 30 seconds, with people who are at the same skill level by myself. They added Team Training to the list, which I love, because its unranked, and 9 times out of 10 it'll give you four complete newbies to beat the everloving crap out of.
Halo 2's matchmaking feature will be what it's remembered for. I guarantee it becomes a requirement of all future online titles, at least in the console world.
I tried playing Burnout 3 online, and just couldn't return to the "start game... sit and wait for hours for someone to play with you" method.
As for the game itself, yeah, it's another FPS, albeit a solid one IMO. So are Doom 3 and Half Life 2 (And Quake 4 and Half Life 3 and Far Cry 12). So whats your point?
You seem to have a very selective memory. The gaming market was choked with me-too pacman and space invaders clones in the 80s, it was full of me-too Street Fighter and Mario clones in the 90s. There wasn't a whole lot of innovation going on back then, either.
How many double dragon style beat-em-ups can you name from the 90s? Hell, just about everything Konami released in the 90s was TMNT with different characters (Simpsons, XMen, etc)
There are plenty of good, and innovative, games out today. PS2's EyeToy is pretty innovative. Viewtiful Joe is unique. Metroid Prime is completely different from any other first person game I've played, in that it's more about exploration and uncovering the story than it is about shooting baddies.
Any kid whos into skateboarding has seen Gleaming the Cube because that's about the only skateboard-related motion picture I can think of, that reference isn't too out there.
They make a reference to Willy Wonka, and the reference makes absolutely no sense in context (Star Wars game), which would lead me to believe that a kid did in fact say that.
They probably sifted through a few hours of the kids chattering on video tape, and took a few choice quotes, and probably corrected the grammar and phrasing the kids used.
The first GTA did suck. Hard. The controls sucked, the graphics sucked, the "story" and missions sucked. Everything about it sucked. And it sucked twice as hard on the PSX, which was the version "reviewed" in the article.
It only persisted because of the theme, much like Postal or Carmageddon, which likewise sucked.
I'm surprised they managed to turn it into the franchise it is today.
My kid (then 8) was constantly bugging me to hook up my old NES to play Zelda, then SNES, then Genesis, then TG16..
I eventually bought him his own PC and hooked him up with a bunch of emulators, and I catch him playing Bonk or old Sonic titles as often, if not more, than I see him playing his GameCube.
Left alone to play them, many older games are fun. Hell, Monopoly is still fun. But you aren't going to impress anyone with 1980s technology.
Why would these kids not recognize SFII? It's been released for every console since the TG16/PCEngine, including GCN, PS2 and XBox.
I'd like to see any of you sit through a silent film from the 20s or listen to old radio plays.
I know about 100 of you will respond and claim that you love silent films and have the worlds greatest collection of radio plays, and I say to you that you're full of shit.
ICEs still vary from 0-3000 rpm, while turbines are only efficient at one predetermined RPM.
So you'd need one hell of a transmission with like 100 different gear settings to get you a range of speeds from, say, 0 to 100. Transmissions in ICE cars only have 5 or 6.
God have mercy on you if it's manual transmission, though I'm sure you'd develop herculean calf muscles on your left leg from working the clutch.
You can refill at a modified gas station in 3 or 4 minutes, for a couple of bucks, and the vehicle is equipped with a compressor that you plug in and can refill itself in 3 or 4 hours.
It's also capable of running on gas, like a hybrid, so you can use it normally while you wait for the filling stations to propogate.
The air compression uses electricity. Whether that electricity was generated *cleanly* or not is irrelevant to the car itself.
The whole point is that 80% of vehicle emissions are released in densely populated city centers, and the quality of air in big cities is declining. When the local news is issuing "smog warnings" during the summer, somethings wrong.
This is about fighting the pollution problems in cities, it doesnt pretend to be a magical source of free energy.
This is an interesting idea, and I wish it success, but after reading that website (and the ridiculous amount of typos in their FAQ), it sounds like a lot of PR hype, they really seem to be running on hot air. Time will tell.
So it's not any more eco-friendly than anything else that runs on gas. The article is full of a bunch of speculation about hydrogen or hithane or whatever, but it's the type of "in the future...." bullshit/. posts every day.
To further burst your steam-turbine bubbles, quoth the TFA:
"But the problem of turbines is that to be efficient, they have to run at a predetermined speed.
"The very nature of road cars is that their speed changes all the time, so this design would be no good for road vehicles."
They just built a fast car to break a record. This wont wind up in your garage.
Intel CPU market is much, much larger than the "gamer" or "enthusiast" market.
In fact, Intel hardly gives a rats ass about that market. Only recently did they release a motherboard (Hey, when's AMD going to release a complete solution including chipset and mobo?) that supported any sort of overclocking. Even then it was a very half-hearted attempt at competing with other mobo makers, not AMD.
Intel's not going anywhere any time soon, in fact, I predict that Intel is still around years after AMD is bought out by some giant Chinese conglomerate.
It seems AMD's the one in trouble. They sell their shit so cheaply that profit margins are razor thin for them. They have to own this gamer market, any real competition in that arena could spell out the end for them. Intel could undercut them and eliminate them, if they chose to do so.
AMD is making strides in gaming and the "enthusiast" market more because of nVidias and ATI's chipsets, IMO.
I know that modern games (I've tested Doom 3 and Far Cry) perform exactly the same on a Celeron 1.8ghz system as a 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB P4, with the rest of the system *exactly* the same. (Radeon 9800, SB Live)
CPU horsepower isn't what gamers are lacking in any modern system, it's the rest of the machine.
It just seems to me as though "AMD fever" in the enthusiast crowd started around the same time that NForce came out.
They made pretty shitty gaming machines when they were restricted to VIA chipsets and had crazy compatibility problems with such esoteric hardware as Voodoo 3 video cards and Soundblaster Lives.
But with a high-performance chipset made by the guys who make the high-performance video card, it can be safely assumed they'll get along together.
Not only that, you can finally put together a cheap system with embedded video/audio that has enough juice to play modern games.
If intel wanted to really compete on the same level they'd be looking at revamping their chipsets and integrated graphics solutions, not the CPUs, they already have a good combo of cheap and powerful with the newer Celerons.
Any cosmic thingamajoo that doesn't fit in with what we're told.... String theory.
Ie; There isn't enough matter in a galaxy to keep it together via gravity. What keeps a galaxy together? String theory and dark matter!
How? You're no astro-quantum dood so you wouldn't understand. It's done with strings. Shut up and sit down.
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Paul McLellan, general manager of Minneapolis-based ServiceLighting.com, which had an ad on the site, said Komarnitsky's actions were unethical.
"Finding out he's making a buck off of something that costs us a buck, it's not very cool," McLellan said.
Can someone explain what the fuck ServiceLighting.com are whining about? They paid to advertise on his site, and the site got thousands of hits. What's it to them?
Yeah, of course he "makes a buck" (selling ads) and it costs them "a buck" (buying ads).
People pay a lot more to advertise in the Times, and that's generally just as fake.
was extremely well received despite the whines and hand wringing from the no-one-should-ever-actively-defend-themselves crowd
Yeah, it was so well recieved they pulled it without a trace after what, two days? Three?
It's a boneheaded scheme that creates many more problems than it solves. Imagine a spammer finding a dopey judge to give him a multi-million dollar settlement against lycos.. That'd sure teach him a lesson!
The whole scheme is as easy to get around as changing IPs.
Anyhow, I have a new plan. I'm going to drive 90mph on YOUR sidewalk because I have a problem with people driving like idiots. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Get drunk, do donuts in other peoples lawns, take out their fences. Run over their pets - hell, kill a few kids! That'll sure teach people that they should be more responsible when they drive.
Because the conventional hot water heater is set at 78 degrees, (and mine is a scooch lower because of the presence of little hands dextrous enough to turn a faucet, and are easily scalded.) But you want it much hotter than that to wash dishes. So my dishwasher has a seperate inline heater to make the water even hotter.
Plenty of people have "rediscovered" the barter system, hell, many never forgot it.
I set up a laptop with quickbooks and some custom invoices and reciepts for a friend of mine who runs a tree service, in return he cut down a few trees and ground out some stumps.
I fixed another friend of a friends' kids PS2, and he (a plumber) came over and helped me replace a hot water heater.
I do it all the time, it's all about being social and knowing the right people, and having something to trade.
It works well for us.. Many/most tradesmen who work with their hands don't know shit about their PCs.
My neighbour is a cabinetmaker by trade, and a contractor. This idea of giving him free wireless internet is intriguing. I think I might just offer him free internet forever* if he helps me build the bar I want.
* - forever does not necessarily mean "for ever"
I wish 'society' could be a little more social. Look at an amish barnraising to see how much can be accomplished in a short amount of time if people will pitch in.
Yet, despite the fact that I sweated and toiled one weekend to help a neighbour install a chain link fence, he just sat there with his new snowblower while watching me bust my ass shovelling my driveway when he could have done it in about 5 minutes.
Oh well, people are a bunch of asses. That's why we invented money.
No need for a flamewar, the two teams put aside the moronic infighting years ago and have largely collaborated.
Back when, ZSNES was fast, because it was written in ASM. SNES9x was more compatable, because it was easier to tweak. And there was much boasting and bickering and it was basically an e-Penis contest between the two emus.
Eventually they came together.
Now, SNES9x got all its ASM code straight from ZSNES, ZSNES got its compatability and other features from SNES9x.
Both projects would suck without getting together. SNES9x would still be slow and chunky, ZSNES would be missing a lot of compatability and features.
Both are pretty good examples of what OSS projects can achieve when the authors put egos aside and focus on the end result.
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They do need to define spam.
Sophos included worms and trojans in their top 12 list, which I consider a seperate problem to spam.
Many consider any unsolicited and unwanted email spam, because it makes the numbers look much bigger. But think about it, if my uncle sends me an email, I never solicited it, and I don't really want to talk to him, so is it spam? No. What about all those "crazy hilarious jokes" people keep forwarding me? I dont want that shit, is it spam? No.
That's how activist groups work these days. IMO they belittle the problem while they try to blow it out of proportion.
As another example, back when I was in school, a bunch of feminist grad students did a survey about "rape and sexual abuse" on campus. They concluded that 2 out of 3 girls were raped while attending the school. Since the girls outnumbered boys 2-1, it meant that every male must be raping one or two girls a year. What the fuck was wrong with that? I knew I'd never raped anyone, and as far as I knew none of my male friends had, and no girl I knew was ever raped. In fact, in my 4 years there, I only heard of one actual case of rape (which is still one too many).
I looked at the survey they sent out. It didn't say anything about rape. It had a question phrased like "did you ever have sex when you didnt want to?". There was my answer. Anyone who answered yes was ticked up in the "raped" column.
Unwanted sex isn't rape. If you throw one out on your anniversary, even though you dont feel like it, it isn't rape, and to try and twist the facts to include it as "rape", belittles and insults all the real victims. If your a girl and screw some guy because you think it'll make him like you, you're a slut - not a rape victim.
Activists are full of shit, beware anything you hear from someone with an agenda.
I'm hearing that a lot of linux newbies are running full blown sendmail servers on their home connections, and don't know how to set them up properly, so they happily allow people to anonymously relay mail through them.
What's more surpsing is that ISP's have not done more to stop being the source of spam (ala blocking port 25 outbound).
No, it's not surprising at all. If my ISP started blocking destination ports arbitrarily I'd drop them in a heartbeat.
RTFA, the spammers aren't in america, the zombied boxes they use to relay spam are.
No doubt windows in Korea or China is just as insecure, but does the average housewife in Korea have a 3.6ghz P4 with a gig of RAM and 120 gig HDD?
Plus, most of Asia has been RBTL'ed by now, no point in spamming from compromised Korean box.
I think that given sheer amount of insecure PCs with respectable specs in US, that are connected 24/7, the list makes alot of sense.
PS, upon re-reading, Sophos also includes Worms and trojans in their statistic, many big email worms have exploited a bug only exists in the US version of OE, IIRC, so now the list makes even more sense.
Didn't the little prince catch comets to travel around?
I only remember it as the gayest (in the literal sense) thing ever to air on the publicly funded TVO. I remember pulling my hair wondering "WHERES THE BEAR CALLED JEREMY WHO CAN DO MOST ANYTHING!?!"
Ah the joys of growing up in rural Ontario, with only CBC, TVO and Global (on a really clear day) to watch.
I've listened to HHGTG, and without having read the books, I would have had no idea what the hell they were talking about. They moved too fast, it was hard to tell narration from dialogue, it was really hard to follow.
Maybe if you were accustomed to listening to radio drama it'd be easier, but fankly I can't imagine anyone other than a DA fan listening to it.
Play Halo 2 online. It's a blast.
It's way more fun than any other FPS I've played online, largely because the matchmaking feature works and you don't have to spend 4 hours trying to find someone to play with.
It consistently finds me games to play in about 30 seconds, with people who are at the same skill level by myself. They added Team Training to the list, which I love, because its unranked, and 9 times out of 10 it'll give you four complete newbies to beat the everloving crap out of.
Halo 2's matchmaking feature will be what it's remembered for. I guarantee it becomes a requirement of all future online titles, at least in the console world.
I tried playing Burnout 3 online, and just couldn't return to the "start game... sit and wait for hours for someone to play with you" method.
As for the game itself, yeah, it's another FPS, albeit a solid one IMO. So are Doom 3 and Half Life 2 (And Quake 4 and Half Life 3 and Far Cry 12). So whats your point?
You seem to have a very selective memory. The gaming market was choked with me-too pacman and space invaders clones in the 80s, it was full of me-too Street Fighter and Mario clones in the 90s. There wasn't a whole lot of innovation going on back then, either.
How many double dragon style beat-em-ups can you name from the 90s? Hell, just about everything Konami released in the 90s was TMNT with different characters (Simpsons, XMen, etc)
There are plenty of good, and innovative, games out today. PS2's EyeToy is pretty innovative. Viewtiful Joe is unique. Metroid Prime is completely different from any other first person game I've played, in that it's more about exploration and uncovering the story than it is about shooting baddies.
If anything we have much more variety now.
Any kid whos into skateboarding has seen Gleaming the Cube because that's about the only skateboard-related motion picture I can think of, that reference isn't too out there.
They make a reference to Willy Wonka, and the reference makes absolutely no sense in context (Star Wars game), which would lead me to believe that a kid did in fact say that.
They probably sifted through a few hours of the kids chattering on video tape, and took a few choice quotes, and probably corrected the grammar and phrasing the kids used.
Or not.. who cares.
The first GTA did suck. Hard. The controls sucked, the graphics sucked, the "story" and missions sucked. Everything about it sucked. And it sucked twice as hard on the PSX, which was the version "reviewed" in the article.
It only persisted because of the theme, much like Postal or Carmageddon, which likewise sucked.
I'm surprised they managed to turn it into the franchise it is today.
My kid (then 8) was constantly bugging me to hook up my old NES to play Zelda, then SNES, then Genesis, then TG16..
I eventually bought him his own PC and hooked him up with a bunch of emulators, and I catch him playing Bonk or old Sonic titles as often, if not more, than I see him playing his GameCube.
Left alone to play them, many older games are fun. Hell, Monopoly is still fun. But you aren't going to impress anyone with 1980s technology.
Why would these kids not recognize SFII? It's been released for every console since the TG16/PCEngine, including GCN, PS2 and XBox.
I'd like to see any of you sit through a silent film from the 20s or listen to old radio plays.
I know about 100 of you will respond and claim that you love silent films and have the worlds greatest collection of radio plays, and I say to you that you're full of shit.
ICEs still vary from 0-3000 rpm, while turbines are only efficient at one predetermined RPM.
So you'd need one hell of a transmission with like 100 different gear settings to get you a range of speeds from, say, 0 to 100. Transmissions in ICE cars only have 5 or 6.
God have mercy on you if it's manual transmission, though I'm sure you'd develop herculean calf muscles on your left leg from working the clutch.
You can refill at a modified gas station in 3 or 4 minutes, for a couple of bucks, and the vehicle is equipped with a compressor that you plug in and can refill itself in 3 or 4 hours.
It's also capable of running on gas, like a hybrid, so you can use it normally while you wait for the filling stations to propogate.
The air compression uses electricity. Whether that electricity was generated *cleanly* or not is irrelevant to the car itself.
The whole point is that 80% of vehicle emissions are released in densely populated city centers, and the quality of air in big cities is declining. When the local news is issuing "smog warnings" during the summer, somethings wrong.
This is about fighting the pollution problems in cities, it doesnt pretend to be a magical source of free energy.
This is an interesting idea, and I wish it success, but after reading that website (and the ridiculous amount of typos in their FAQ), it sounds like a lot of PR hype, they really seem to be running on hot air. Time will tell.
So it's not any more eco-friendly than anything else that runs on gas. The article is full of a bunch of speculation about hydrogen or hithane or whatever, but it's the type of "in the future...." bullshit /. posts every day.
To further burst your steam-turbine bubbles, quoth the TFA:
"But the problem of turbines is that to be efficient, they have to run at a predetermined speed.
"The very nature of road cars is that their speed changes all the time, so this design would be no good for road vehicles."
They just built a fast car to break a record. This wont wind up in your garage.
Intel is much more than CPUs.
Intel CPU market is much, much larger than the "gamer" or "enthusiast" market.
In fact, Intel hardly gives a rats ass about that market. Only recently did they release a motherboard (Hey, when's AMD going to release a complete solution including chipset and mobo?) that supported any sort of overclocking. Even then it was a very half-hearted attempt at competing with other mobo makers, not AMD.
Intel's not going anywhere any time soon, in fact, I predict that Intel is still around years after AMD is bought out by some giant Chinese conglomerate.
It seems AMD's the one in trouble. They sell their shit so cheaply that profit margins are razor thin for them. They have to own this gamer market, any real competition in that arena could spell out the end for them. Intel could undercut them and eliminate them, if they chose to do so.
AMD is making strides in gaming and the "enthusiast" market more because of nVidias and ATI's chipsets, IMO.
I know that modern games (I've tested Doom 3 and Far Cry) perform exactly the same on a Celeron 1.8ghz system as a 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB P4, with the rest of the system *exactly* the same. (Radeon 9800, SB Live)
CPU horsepower isn't what gamers are lacking in any modern system, it's the rest of the machine.
It just seems to me as though "AMD fever" in the enthusiast crowd started around the same time that NForce came out.
They made pretty shitty gaming machines when they were restricted to VIA chipsets and had crazy compatibility problems with such esoteric hardware as Voodoo 3 video cards and Soundblaster Lives.
But with a high-performance chipset made by the guys who make the high-performance video card, it can be safely assumed they'll get along together.
Not only that, you can finally put together a cheap system with embedded video/audio that has enough juice to play modern games.
If intel wanted to really compete on the same level they'd be looking at revamping their chipsets and integrated graphics solutions, not the CPUs, they already have a good combo of cheap and powerful with the newer Celerons.
They aren't "staying in the game", they are the game.
Wake me when AMD provides complete solutions, chipset, motherboard, with integrated audio and video.
Intel is upgrading because 8 years is a long, long time for a modern chip fab. The "we'll make chips cheaper than AMD" crap is just investor PR.
AMD is only a threat to but one small fraction of Intel's business.
That's what string theory is for.
Any cosmic thingamajoo that doesn't fit in with what we're told.... String theory.
Ie; There isn't enough matter in a galaxy to keep it together via gravity. What keeps a galaxy together? String theory and dark matter!
How? You're no astro-quantum dood so you wouldn't understand. It's done with strings. Shut up and sit down.
Paul McLellan, general manager of Minneapolis-based ServiceLighting.com, which had an ad on the site, said Komarnitsky's actions were unethical.
"Finding out he's making a buck off of something that costs us a buck, it's not very cool," McLellan said.
Can someone explain what the fuck ServiceLighting.com are whining about? They paid to advertise on his site, and the site got thousands of hits. What's it to them?
Yeah, of course he "makes a buck" (selling ads) and it costs them "a buck" (buying ads).
People pay a lot more to advertise in the Times, and that's generally just as fake.
was extremely well received despite the whines and hand wringing from the no-one-should-ever-actively-defend-themselves crowd
Yeah, it was so well recieved they pulled it without a trace after what, two days? Three?
It's a boneheaded scheme that creates many more problems than it solves. Imagine a spammer finding a dopey judge to give him a multi-million dollar settlement against lycos.. That'd sure teach him a lesson!
The whole scheme is as easy to get around as changing IPs.
Anyhow, I have a new plan. I'm going to drive 90mph on YOUR sidewalk because I have a problem with people driving like idiots. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Get drunk, do donuts in other peoples lawns, take out their fences. Run over their pets - hell, kill a few kids! That'll sure teach people that they should be more responsible when they drive.
Aha mr smarty.
Because the conventional hot water heater is set at 78 degrees, (and mine is a scooch lower because of the presence of little hands dextrous enough to turn a faucet, and are easily scalded.) But you want it much hotter than that to wash dishes. So my dishwasher has a seperate inline heater to make the water even hotter.
See, I do heat hot water.
Plenty of people have "rediscovered" the barter system, hell, many never forgot it.
I set up a laptop with quickbooks and some custom invoices and reciepts for a friend of mine who runs a tree service, in return he cut down a few trees and ground out some stumps.
I fixed another friend of a friends' kids PS2, and he (a plumber) came over and helped me replace a hot water heater.
I do it all the time, it's all about being social and knowing the right people, and having something to trade.
It works well for us.. Many/most tradesmen who work with their hands don't know shit about their PCs.
My neighbour is a cabinetmaker by trade, and a contractor. This idea of giving him free wireless internet is intriguing. I think I might just offer him free internet forever* if he helps me build the bar I want.
* - forever does not necessarily mean "for ever"
I wish 'society' could be a little more social. Look at an amish barnraising to see how much can be accomplished in a short amount of time if people will pitch in.
Yet, despite the fact that I sweated and toiled one weekend to help a neighbour install a chain link fence, he just sat there with his new snowblower while watching me bust my ass shovelling my driveway when he could have done it in about 5 minutes.
Oh well, people are a bunch of asses. That's why we invented money.
Your math is silly.
You forgot about the lawyers!
So it works out to about 10-14 bucks each.
No need for a flamewar, the two teams put aside the moronic infighting years ago and have largely collaborated.
Back when, ZSNES was fast, because it was written in ASM. SNES9x was more compatable, because it was easier to tweak. And there was much boasting and bickering and it was basically an e-Penis contest between the two emus.
Eventually they came together.
Now, SNES9x got all its ASM code straight from ZSNES, ZSNES got its compatability and other features from SNES9x.
Both projects would suck without getting together. SNES9x would still be slow and chunky, ZSNES would be missing a lot of compatability and features.
Both are pretty good examples of what OSS projects can achieve when the authors put egos aside and focus on the end result.
Oh yeah, well I'm not a fluxbox user, I want to double click a ROM file and execute it.
Not based on extension, I want a real filesystem with attributes, and it executes based on the "SNES" attribute.
There's no integration needed, just a good filesystem and good desktop environment.
Replace "ROM" with "digital photo" and "emulator" with "GIMP" if you want.