Asus Motherboard + AMD + DDR400 + AGP version of video card
vs
Abit motherboard + P4 + DDR2-533 + PCI-E version of video card
The P4 is no doubt hotter, but the faster RAM and video bus on that rig must account for a good chunk of the extra wattage too. Note that the benchmarks used are particularly memory intensive (mpeg rendering, speech recognition, molecule modelling)..... Hmmmmmmmmmm..
I hate rigged tests to make "my favorite corporate tech asshole company" look better than they are.
Bullshit all around from AMD fanboys
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The problem is, it doesn't use 100 watts more than AMD. The difference at idle is 40 watts.
The 6800GT in their test-bed sucks more power than any CPU they're testing.
And who knows how the various motherboards being tested are affecting the measurements. They aren't even from the same maker (Asus vs Abit). Odd that they take a top tier manufacturer for the AMD tests (Asus), and a manufacturer known for shit (Abit) for the Intel.
Not only that, they have the intel running DDR2 533 vs DDR 400 on the AMD - the memory alone counts for A LOT of the power usage, especially in the mpeg encoding tests.
The AMD rigs use an AGP card, the Intel rigs PCI-E. How does the faster Intel bus affect power usage?
The AMD probably does use less power. I just hate lies and horseshit motivated by some hardon people have for the "underdog".
What was preventing them from taking some accurate measurements?
My machine is on 24/7, but usually in standby mode.
They suck next to no power with the processor idle, the monitor shut off, the hard drives spun down, etc.
I don't have sophisticated wattage measuring equipment, but I can "eyeball" my power usage by gauging how long my UPS says it can hold out. With my computer asleep that length of time increases 10x.
Sucking 130 watts constantly sounds like an awful lot. Consider all those mATX eMachines with 150 watt PSUs.
Leaving your computer on doesn't cost a lot, of course leaving it running SETI@Home and a looping 3DMarks demo going will. (you know, just in case someone breaks in you can show them how l337 yer rig is)
NASA did a whole lot more than just "go high", which is really all SSO did.
It wasn't on a precise trajectory, it wasn't trying to achieve orbit, or position itself in the right place to release a satellite, or orbit and land on the moon.
Once detached from it's plane, all it really has to do is go "up". Last weeks launch had the SSO barrel-rolling on it's way up. It doesn't matter, so long as it went up.
If NASA's only objective was to go to as high for only a few seconds, I'm sure it'd have been a lot cheaper, though to be fair, probably not as cheap.
He buys the shows from the conglomorates, the only people he's competing with are the service side of the industry.
His solution scales until there's an old dipshit on his cul-de-sac waking him up at 3 AM screaming because something went wrong and today's Oprah got cut off.
The content is really cheap, (another argument against "broadcast flags" and DRM). But the larger your customer base, the more they'll expect from you, and the stupider they'll be.
Comcast charges 40 bucks a month markup because people keep digging through the cables, can't get their cablemodem working, etc.. (Comcast sucks and is a ripoff)
All the article really says is that the installed base of linux users is smaller than the amount of linux machines shipped.
You can assign whatever meaning you want to that "statistic". Maybe it means linux machines are more likely to accidentally get knocked off the desk and busted. To Gartner it means that people are buying linux boxes to avoid paying for Windows, yet using Windows anyways.
A little bit of Rosen in my life A little bit of Moglen by my side A little bit of Ravicher makes me dance A little bit of Taco dripping down tims pants
I don't know what mambo is. They probably stole this guy's code, though.
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This isn't just P4 vs AMD, this is:
Asus Motherboard + AMD + DDR400 + AGP version of video card
vs
Abit motherboard + P4 + DDR2-533 + PCI-E version of video card
The P4 is no doubt hotter, but the faster RAM and video bus on that rig must account for a good chunk of the extra wattage too. Note that the benchmarks used are particularly memory intensive (mpeg rendering, speech recognition, molecule modelling)..... Hmmmmmmmmmm..
I hate rigged tests to make "my favorite corporate tech asshole company" look better than they are.
The problem is, it doesn't use 100 watts more than AMD. The difference at idle is 40 watts.
The 6800GT in their test-bed sucks more power than any CPU they're testing.
And who knows how the various motherboards being tested are affecting the measurements. They aren't even from the same maker (Asus vs Abit). Odd that they take a top tier manufacturer for the AMD tests (Asus), and a manufacturer known for shit (Abit) for the Intel.
Not only that, they have the intel running DDR2 533 vs DDR 400 on the AMD - the memory alone counts for A LOT of the power usage, especially in the mpeg encoding tests.
The AMD rigs use an AGP card, the Intel rigs PCI-E. How does the faster Intel bus affect power usage?
The AMD probably does use less power. I just hate lies and horseshit motivated by some hardon people have for the "underdog".
What was preventing them from taking some accurate measurements?
My machine is on 24/7, but usually in standby mode.
They suck next to no power with the processor idle, the monitor shut off, the hard drives spun down, etc.
I don't have sophisticated wattage measuring equipment, but I can "eyeball" my power usage by gauging how long my UPS says it can hold out. With my computer asleep that length of time increases 10x.
Sucking 130 watts constantly sounds like an awful lot. Consider all those mATX eMachines with 150 watt PSUs.
Leaving your computer on doesn't cost a lot, of course leaving it running SETI@Home and a looping 3DMarks demo going will. (you know, just in case someone breaks in you can show them how l337 yer rig is)
Yesterday when mikey announced IBM would be shipping more computers with "trusted" technologies, you all cried and threw a fit about it.
Now some of that hardware is reviewed and you can't get over how neato it is.
What about "your rights online" people!?
NASA did a whole lot more than just "go high", which is really all SSO did.
It wasn't on a precise trajectory, it wasn't trying to achieve orbit, or position itself in the right place to release a satellite, or orbit and land on the moon.
Once detached from it's plane, all it really has to do is go "up". Last weeks launch had the SSO barrel-rolling on it's way up. It doesn't matter, so long as it went up.
If NASA's only objective was to go to as high for only a few seconds, I'm sure it'd have been a lot cheaper, though to be fair, probably not as cheap.
That Paul Allen put up some money?
/. fagbots have to flame anything that involves anyone that's involved with Microsoft?
How is that interesting, other than
What's interesting is that these guys went to space. Whether Carmack, Allen, Steve Jobs or Oprah Winfrey put up the bucks is irrelevant.
until Bungie sold out to MS, in the ultimate act of treason for many Mac users :)
And the ultimate act of sound business practices for Bungie.
Face facts, the Mac "gaming community" is dwarfed only by that of Linux and BSD. It's just the way it is.
Nick Barnes is also Your Company's Computer Guy.
Until you pull into a 6 way roundabout with about 40 signs within the reciever's "radius", some stops, some yields, etc..
Except this is a prototype system in an Australian lab, and has nothing to do with the USA at all.
They can't even outlaw radar detectors or police scanners here. Relax, dork.
and, Stupid Cars tell you about the Extended Warranty
As the other poster said, ignorance is bliss. You just go ahead and wait for problems to come to you.
You could plan ahead, think of potential alternate ways to accomplish things your software does.
These sorts of "attack" lawsuits are only filed against people with money anyways, so chances are you'll never have to worry about it.
Sheesh,
I defy you to prove that Burnout 3 is not the greatest racing game of all time, or even be able to say it and pass a lie detector test.
Go ahead and paint it with your conspiracy brush.
But trusted computing to the OSS world really means that no processes will run on my machines that I didn't specifically authorize.
Is teh funnest race car game evar.
The risk-reward concept and aftertouch feature really bring something to driving games that's always been missing.
It's all about slamming head-on into oncoming traffic at 200mph, not simulating the experience of driving to work in a Toyota Corolla.
So I nominate Burnout 3 because I have tunnel vision and acknowledge no game other than the one I happen to be playing ATM.
"Purebred" is just an arbitrary term cat (or dog) people come up with to create an artificially "elite" class of pet ownership.
Personally, I think it's a little cruel to keep inbreeding animals. Purebred pets suffer so many more congenital problems than mutts.
I mean, why do we make dogs who are cousins hump and make inbred, sick puppies?
we don't cover insane cat people enough on slashdot.
Blah whine "conglomerates".
He buys the shows from the conglomorates, the only people he's competing with are the service side of the industry.
His solution scales until there's an old dipshit on his cul-de-sac waking him up at 3 AM screaming because something went wrong and today's Oprah got cut off.
The content is really cheap, (another argument against "broadcast flags" and DRM). But the larger your customer base, the more they'll expect from you, and the stupider they'll be.
Comcast charges 40 bucks a month markup because people keep digging through the cables, can't get their cablemodem working, etc.. (Comcast sucks and is a ripoff)
At what point is the cost 0? I'm thinking once the link to POTS is redundant.
That is, buried in my internet pipe. I don't pay for any other protocol, after all..
To describe why we don't need a lot of rhetoric to support linux.
I know "irony" isn't the correct word to use, but I don't feel like thinking of the right one.
To summarize: Some blowhard likes linux and wont shut up about it
Neither Novell, Netscape nor OpenLDAP properly support the WidaNus GAPE extensions.
How is that a troll and the OP "Interesting"?
Of course OpenLDAP works, that guy is just an incompetent dope if he can't get it working.
Hell, it practically worked out of the box on Gentoo, the only thing to really setup was SSL/TLS.
OpenLDAP works great for me and plenty of others. You must not be very good with computers.
Blah blah.
All the article really says is that the installed base of linux users is smaller than the amount of linux machines shipped.
You can assign whatever meaning you want to that "statistic". Maybe it means linux machines are more likely to accidentally get knocked off the desk and busted. To Gartner it means that people are buying linux boxes to avoid paying for Windows, yet using Windows anyways.
A little bit of Rosen in my life
A little bit of Moglen by my side
A little bit of Ravicher makes me dance
A little bit of Taco dripping down tims pants
I don't know what mambo is. They probably stole this guy's code, though.