Incorrect. Opera, since version 3.50 (it's at 3.60 now, IIRC), has supported Java (via a freely available plugin). You can also customize the toolbar, get rid of it entirely, move around/get rid of the box that displays the URL, and mess with other aspects of the UI. As for CSS, I don't think it supports it fully, but it's ahead of both IE5 and Netscape 4.6, so it's the best there is at the moment.
I find this to be a good example of reading only what you want to read. The original article clearly said "BeOS/Linux hybrid," yet slashdot incorrectly posted saying it was a Linux-based computer. Then this mistake was pointed out, and slashdot corrected itself. Ironically, it turns out there's no Linux involved at all, so the OS (BeOS) that slashdot ignored from the original press release turns out to be the only one actually used, and the much-ballyhooed role of Linux turns out to be nonexistant.
1) I think this shows that both Linux and NT are insanely fast under these circumstances. Both the setups in this benchmark pumped out enough data to satisfy the needs of nearly any possible webserver or fileserver you can think of. What type of server gets more than 150 million hits a day?
2) Why isn't BSD ever tested in these benchmarks? Many sites, such as cdrom.com, put up impressive numbers with BSD systems. It'd at least be nice to see what BSD can do with a 4-CPU/4-ethernet card box.
Hmm, that's an interesting theory. Somebody should test this. I'd be interested to see how Linux and NT each perform as a webserver if each has 500 T1 visitors and two 33.6 modem visitors. Will NT pump data into the T1 visitors forever, forgetting about the low-bandwidth modem users? Will Linux be better in this respect?
How are you going to get better hardware? Adding more processors won't work, since the SMP is the problem in the first place.
Say you have an NT server running on a 4-processor 500 MHz Xeon. To get similar performance from Linux, you'd probably need something like a 1 GHz processor.
It's somehow related to this inch-thingy so it's not exactly the same size as our DIN A4 format. Guess where the important parts of your letters, abstracts, etc. go...
Oh. Well it's fairly close. What are the dimensions of DIN A4 paper? The standard US letter paper is 8.5 in by 11 in (about 21.6 cm by 27.9 cm).
I'm really glad you know so much about telecommunication in Europe. You're so smart!
Heh I know that there's no ADSL in Europe. However, I don't see what your complaint about ISDN is. I know several Europeans with ISDN, and they've had no problems getting it supported.
Sure, some people just hate drinking beer in public. So the have to go to the US or Russia, where the cops really know their business. Otherwise you live in the "land of the free", of course. Except from stupid export regulations... and porn... and... oh, well, what a great country.
I don't recall any laws in the United States about drinking beer in public (unless you're under 21, which, I agree, is a dumb law). As for crypto, U.S. citizens are perfectly free to use strong crypto. It's just the Europeans/Africans/Asians/others who aren't allowed to import it from the U.S. Porn is still legal.
It's unlikely that the trademark on the term "Linux" would be enforceable. Linus does not defend the term as required under trademark law (for example, he does not send nasty letters to magazines when they fail to put (r) after using the word Linux).
I find it humorous that "Information Wants to be Free" is one of the long-held justifications for "ethical hacking" (the breaking-into-systems-but-not-damaging-them sort). Perhaps ESR is not telling us something.
1) What's wrong with US letter paper? 2) What doesn't support ISDN? FWIW, ADSL is cheaper and faster anyway. 3) windows supports foreign keyboards, and Linux supports at least a few types of foreign keyboards
FYI: not all non-US citizens share your opinions on every subject imaginable. If they all hated the American Way of Life, we wouldn't have so many of them trying to immigrate to the U.S.
Hmm, when i retake that test thinking of what I'm like online, I get ENTP. The same, except the I (introverted) switches to E (extroverted). Interesting.
Well he did suffer mild brain damage (amnesia) in that plane accident. However, he seems like an intelligent person today (albeit not doing much technically-related anymore).
It tries to be platform-neutral, but it's not. Trivial little Linux stories get posted (such as "The Wall Street Journal had a 2-paragraph article on Linux, if you care" or "Civ:CTP is being ported"), but important win32 stuff (such as "Civ:CTP came out in the first place") is ignored.
You should take a minute and realize that many people here are posting in their second or even third language. Get off your high horse and be a little more tolerant.)
CmdrTaco's first language is English, unless I'm badly mistaken, so that's not an excuse.
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Incorrect. Opera, since version 3.50 (it's at 3.60 now, IIRC), has supported Java (via a freely available plugin). You can also customize the toolbar, get rid of it entirely, move around/get rid of the box that displays the URL, and mess with other aspects of the UI. As for CSS, I don't think it supports it fully, but it's ahead of both IE5 and Netscape 4.6, so it's the best there is at the moment.
I find this to be a good example of reading only what you want to read. The original article clearly said "BeOS/Linux hybrid," yet slashdot incorrectly posted saying it was a Linux-based computer. Then this mistake was pointed out, and slashdot corrected itself. Ironically, it turns out there's no Linux involved at all, so the OS (BeOS) that slashdot ignored from the original press release turns out to be the only one actually used, and the much-ballyhooed role of Linux turns out to be nonexistant.
Ok, in that case, why was that guy bitching at me for suggesting ADSL as an alternative to ISDN?
1) I think this shows that both Linux and NT are insanely fast under these circumstances. Both the setups in this benchmark pumped out enough data to satisfy the needs of nearly any possible webserver or fileserver you can think of. What type of server gets more than 150 million hits a day?
2) Why isn't BSD ever tested in these benchmarks? Many sites, such as cdrom.com, put up impressive numbers with BSD systems. It'd at least be nice to see what BSD can do with a 4-CPU/4-ethernet card box.
Hmm, that's an interesting theory. Somebody should test this. I'd be interested to see how Linux and NT each perform as a webserver if each has 500 T1 visitors and two 33.6 modem visitors. Will NT pump data into the T1 visitors forever, forgetting about the low-bandwidth modem users? Will Linux be better in this respect?
How are you going to get better hardware? Adding more processors won't work, since the SMP is the problem in the first place.
Say you have an NT server running on a 4-processor 500 MHz Xeon. To get similar performance from Linux, you'd probably need something like a 1 GHz processor.
It's somehow related to this inch-thingy so it's not exactly the same size as our DIN A4 format. Guess where the important parts of your letters, abstracts, etc. go...
Oh. Well it's fairly close. What are the dimensions of DIN A4 paper? The standard US letter paper is 8.5 in by 11 in (about 21.6 cm by 27.9 cm).
I'm really glad you know so much about telecommunication in Europe. You're so smart!
Heh I know that there's no ADSL in Europe. However, I don't see what your complaint about ISDN is. I know several Europeans with ISDN, and they've had no problems getting it supported.
Sure, some people just hate drinking beer in public. So the have to go to the US or Russia, where the cops really know their business. Otherwise you live in the "land of the free", of course. Except from stupid export regulations... and porn... and... oh, well, what a great country.
I don't recall any laws in the United States about drinking beer in public (unless you're under 21, which, I agree, is a dumb law). As for crypto, U.S. citizens are perfectly free to use strong crypto. It's just the Europeans/Africans/Asians/others who aren't allowed to import it from the U.S. Porn is still legal.
It's unlikely that the trademark on the term "Linux" would be enforceable. Linus does not defend the term as required under trademark law (for example, he does not send nasty letters to magazines when they fail to put (r) after using the word Linux).
I find it humorous that "Information Wants to be Free" is one of the long-held justifications for "ethical hacking" (the breaking-into-systems-but-not-damaging-them sort). Perhaps ESR is not telling us something.
money.
1) What's wrong with US letter paper?
2) What doesn't support ISDN? FWIW, ADSL is cheaper and faster anyway.
3) windows supports foreign keyboards, and Linux supports at least a few types of foreign keyboards
FYI: not all non-US citizens share your opinions on every subject imaginable. If they all hated the American Way of Life, we wouldn't have so many of them trying to immigrate to the U.S.
I never suggested NT or WinCE for embedded systems either. I was just saying that Linux is not ideal.
I'd probably use either DR-DOS or one of the OS's specially designed for embedded systems.
Hmm, when i retake that test thinking of what I'm like online, I get ENTP. The same, except the I (introverted) switches to E (extroverted). Interesting.
Hmm, if you go look through that site, the list of Presidents who are Idealists says "There are None!"
Perhaps that's part of our problem.
FWIW I'm INTP/INFP, depending on my mood.
Well he did suffer mild brain damage (amnesia) in that plane accident. However, he seems like an intelligent person today (albeit not doing much technically-related anymore).
I got that impression too. Wozniak reminds me of RMS, only less dogmatic. They both have (or at least had) beards too, and look/looked like hippies.
But we all know ESR is the only person in the world capable of giving speeches in favor of Open Source.
Atheists For Jesus, for those who like Jesus but not the "belief in God" or religious fundamentalism stuff =)
Either that or intelligent people.
I personally use Netscape v4.51 as a matter of principle, but I have to concede that IE5 is significantly superior.
It tries to be platform-neutral, but it's not. Trivial little Linux stories get posted (such as "The Wall Street Journal had a 2-paragraph article on Linux, if you care" or "Civ:CTP is being ported"), but important win32 stuff (such as "Civ:CTP came out in the first place") is ignored.
Not everybody on WinXX is using it at work. For example, I'm reading from my Win95 box at home right now.
The last time I saw the stats, it was around 65% Windows users, and around 25% Linux users (with BSD/Mac/Solaris/other making up the rest).
My personal website's hits are less than 0.1% Linux users (30 out of about 33,000 hits), so I suppose 25% is quite good.
You should take a minute and realize that many people here are posting in their second or even third language. Get off your high horse and be a little more tolerant.)
CmdrTaco's first language is English, unless I'm badly mistaken, so that's not an excuse.
Not to mention the whole/hole mixup and the cel/cell misspelling in other articles today.
It always amazes me how Slashdotters/Linux advocates manage to work Microsoft into everything, even the most unrelated topics.