Well, I think it's called Reloaded because it's about the fact that the Matrix is about to be Reloaded when Neo meets the Architect. Neo then decided to do something the other Ones didn't do in the past. The movie ends. Ergo, the last movie is named Revolutions.;)
Law 101 which says that signs must be billingual is a Quebec law therefore it's only valid in Quebec. In fact, this law is considered anti-constitutionnal, but it prevails because of a special law call "clause nonobstant" (I don't know the name in english, sorry), which lets a government make an "unfair" law if it's for the good of the majority. It's not "exactly" that way it's formulated in law books, but that's mostly it.
The rule is valid only on the manuals, not on the product themselves. There are ten of thousand of CDs and DVDs that DON'T HAVE french on them and are legal. The law only states that manuals should be in french.
The Law 101 is about the displays in commerces. It says that you must at least have a display in french twice as big at the english one. Whether you agree or not with this, this law doesn't have anything to do to a products cover.
I don't agree. Money is revelevant. I would love to have one on these little devices, but I don't need 10 gig of music. If they made a 1 gig version, it could sell for a lot less, maybe 100/150$ and I would definitely buy one then. Face it, a lot of people don't need 10 gigs to store their music, and 15 gigs is just insane. I have 50 CDs at home and I'd be surprised if I would need more than 10 gigs to store them all on a single device, if every song was worth it. Since a lot of songs are not, maybe it'd need something more along the line of 5 gigs. Personally, I would definitely buy a 1 gig version and add/remove some songs as I feel.
Yeah, but that's what I really didn't buy. I mean, appart from the battery stuff, the Matrix movies pretty much tries to be believable to a scientific eye. Well not try to, but I see it as a world that could exist for real. But to me, a person who manages to turn his own flesh into a 802.11c antena is not a "realistic" explanation. Of course, I mean "realistic" as what can be realistic in a movie like this.;)
I think I've read somewhere that the Wachovsky brothers said that they wanted people to just forget about the last scene with Neo in the first movie as it would break continuity. Maybe that's it...
", because Smith absorbs Neo, but realizes that the Machine God has access to the whole Smith consciousness through the link that Smith has unwittingly formed
This is a really great theory, except that I was under the impression that Smith absorbed other people than Neo, not only programs. All these people are already connected to the Matrix so the Machine God could have access to them anytime anyway. If he only absborbed programs, that would explain why the Machine God couldn't reach Smith. But I'm pretty sure Smith was meant to asborb humans too. So if Neo dies when Smith abords him, that must also mean that everyone else in the Matrix who has been absorbed are dead too.
The more I think about it, the less I'm satisfied about the Smith vs Neo fight.
I agree with you about the Dark City commentary. That has to be one of the most intelligent audio commentary ever for a movie. Before I laughed about this guy because of the "Two thumbs up!" quote he adds to every film he sees, but now I realize those are "Two very informed and thoughfull thumbs up".
Really great rant, you have a lot of interresting points, and the opinions you raise are valid though they differ with mine. I hope you'll reply to my post, I'm sure you'll prove me wrong some places.:) So I'll start with...
The Twins? Nope, they just kinda went away.
The twins are to The Matrix what Boba Fett is to Star Wars. They look cool, being ghosts and all, an anomaly in the Matrix, but that's it. They're just henchmen, like the two vampires that Persephone kills.
Near the end of the movie we're left with this huge Architect speech. Looking back, it doesn't even play a role in Revolutions. Does it really matter he's the sixth?
Of course it doesn't matter. All the previouses Matrices built were about control and the illusion of choice. In the third movie Neo chooses his own path and makes his own choices, regardless of what the Architect tells him.
So how does Neo have powers in the real world? We're told it just kinda happened, a quick 2 liner by the Oracle
That you're right, it's my main gripe with the movie. I think were meant to accept it as we are meant to accept that some people in some movies have certain powers. It's been in other movies before, and it's gonna be done again. Maybe in an audio commentary this will be cleared up.
At the end of Revolutions, everyone is still in the Matrix, and Zion, apparently, would still be the only place where the people who escaped live. The machines aren't going to attack Zion anymore, whoopee.
Well for once, we were not shoved a happy ending down our throat. We were given the most realistic ending given the setting. Face it, the earth is a waste land. There's no hope to clean it up, anyway the machines cover the whole place now. And caves are not that interresting. The point is that now people who are in the Matrix now have a CHOICE. They can freely get in or get out. And if they ever regret their choice, they can always get back in and forget they were ever out like Cypher wanted to at the end of the first movie.
Is the Counsel the 23 freed? I think the architect says that The One choses who is to be freed. And the councel would probably not be the people saved, because the machines would need a lot of humans and quickly to replenish their energy source, so having old men and women who can barely reproduce efficiently (and don't forget that after a certain age there's more risks of birth defects) is not a good idea. So for me, the council was never the ones saved. Heck, I even never thought about that possibility before you mentionned it.
Counselor Hammods speech to Neo about machines helping us? Control?
Like a lot of other points, these things are given as an exercice to the viewer. What's probably going to happen is that machines are going to help humans who live outside the Matrix by building back Zion and other human cities. Thus we will depend on them. But they'll still depend on the people still jacked in.
Burly brawl Because it was cool, no other reason than that. It's an action movie with a touch of phylosophy, not the other way around.
Learn why Seraph is gold? Why he can fight like he does? Where he comes from? Gold, you mean chinese right? Maybe I didn't get the part where they say he's made of gold.;) Why can he fight like he does? Well, he's a program, that's probably why. And where he comes from? Probably from the Source, as every other program. Personnaly, this doesn't really bother me. He is there because he needs to be. Character development is important, but furthering this one isn't that worth it. Besides, I like to have my own idea of the purpose or reason of a character.
Does it even look like the machines care their entire source of energy is about to be destroyed? To quote (approximately) the architect in the second movie : There is a level of subsistance we are willing to live at. So I suppose they have
With that said, I can say that Revolution will go down as one of the best, it not the best sci-fi finale ever for a trilogy. (LOTR doesn't count, as it's fantasy). Much better than episode 6 of Star Wars, and probably better than what the finale of the prequels will be.
Contrary to what other people say, I don't believe there are any holes at the end of the movie.
*** SPOILER ALERT *** First of all, for all of those that said that the machine didn't care that their food could go bye-bye, well, that's not a plot hole, it was EXPLAINED why they accept so in the architect rant at the end of the 2nd one.
Second, why should we know what happens with Zion? Do you really need to see them have another rave of something? They'll rebuild what they can, and that's it. No need to do some cheesy crossfades of clips of people rebuilding the city. Those who want to be unplugged from the Matrix will be, and will live with the humans, as the Architect and the Oracle say at the end. What Neo, and Trinity and Morpheus and everyone wanted most of all to give is CHOICE. CHOICE to be part of the Matrix or not. It's not as if people were badly treaten inside the Matrix. They were happy and everything. The difference between what will go on after the end of the 3rd movie and what was going on before is that humans were hunted and killed when they rejected the Matrix, as they serve no purpose to the machines anymore. Now they will be allowed to be free. It's not as if everyone is going to disconnect from the Matrix all at once.
Anyway, having everyone disconnect would be a really bad idea because after all, the earth is destroyed, there's no hope to get it cleaned up and livable. If they want to live in that mess, FINE, now it's THEIR CHOICE TO DO so. They're not forced to be in the Matrix anymore.
Also, face it Neo is dead. For once, the hero dies in a movie. And I'm glad he did, because seeing him back with the rest of the people Zion would just feel so cheesy. Anyway, for those who doubt he's dead, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be an entry on IMDB soon about how this film as a connection with King Arthur's story. Notice how when his body was carried at the end on a machine ship it looked oddly like when Arthur is laying on a ship and going to the sea when he dies?
Somebody must not like Penny-Arcade. I posted the same link as you, and I got modded one time troll and one time funny, and you got modded troll to 0. Hillarious strip. Every once in a while I put it as my wallpaper.
Well, I don't watch the show, but it seems to me each guy has some private time with the girl to impress her and each week she decides which guy quits the show and at the end the stays with the guy or something. Anyway, as I said, it's a start.:p
Anyway, as long it's not 12 guys AT THE SAME TIME with the chick....
What the fsck is your problem. First of all have balls and sign your posts. Second, what I do with my money is none of your buisness allright? Games are 50 bucks. Buying a GC costs the same thing as two games. Since I buy games every other months, because I can't really afford more, that would be 4 months before even owning a GC game. Yeah, that would be sooooo fun. I can't believe there are sooo many people like you polluting Slashdot. Please do us a favor and just stop posting. I hope you come back to read this post. Worst part is, if you do reply, I won't know if you're the same asshole as before.
haven't tried it yet - still using the iTunes store And I haven't used it yet because it's still not available outside the US. When are these things going to work outside the US?
Personally, I'd prefer Nintendo to only make games and get out of the hardware buisness (well, except the handheld buisness) and make games for the Xbox and PS2. They make really cool games and it's a shame they're available only on Nintendo consoles. I own an Xbox, and I'm really happy with it. I don't miss PS2 games at all, since a lot of them are available on the Xbox, and the exclusives one don't do it for me. But I'd really like to play games like Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime, Mario Party 3.1416 (or whatever they're at now). I'd like to buy a GameCube, but I can't afford a new console, and even I could, it wouldn't be reasonable. (pffff, reasonable... god I'm getting too old!)
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I know you're tongue in cheek, but still you seem to know anyone so ou might appreciate what I'm about to say.
How about X/1999 : The live action movie.
That last fight scene between Fuma and Kamui in the TV serie looks a lot like the Neo vs. Smith fight.
Well, I think it's called Reloaded because it's about the fact that the Matrix is about to be Reloaded when Neo meets the Architect. Neo then decided to do something the other Ones didn't do in the past. The movie ends. Ergo, the last movie is named Revolutions. ;)
... you let your employees play Everquest. Then the company will not see another day of productivity ever again.
Look on their official website, it's like on the first page.
VIVE LA POUTINE!!!!
Law 101 which says that signs must be billingual is a Quebec law therefore it's only valid in Quebec. In fact, this law is considered anti-constitutionnal, but it prevails because of a special law call "clause nonobstant" (I don't know the name in english, sorry), which lets a government make an "unfair" law if it's for the good of the majority. It's not "exactly" that way it's formulated in law books, but that's mostly it.
The rule is valid only on the manuals, not on the product themselves. There are ten of thousand of CDs and DVDs that DON'T HAVE french on them and are legal. The law only states that manuals should be in french.
The Law 101 is about the displays in commerces. It says that you must at least have a display in french twice as big at the english one. Whether you agree or not with this, this law doesn't have anything to do to a products cover.
I don't agree. Money is revelevant. I would love to have one on these little devices, but I don't need 10 gig of music. If they made a 1 gig version, it could sell for a lot less, maybe 100/150$ and I would definitely buy one then. Face it, a lot of people don't need 10 gigs to store their music, and 15 gigs is just insane. I have 50 CDs at home and I'd be surprised if I would need more than 10 gigs to store them all on a single device, if every song was worth it. Since a lot of songs are not, maybe it'd need something more along the line of 5 gigs. Personally, I would definitely buy a 1 gig version and add/remove some songs as I feel.
Yeah, but that's what I really didn't buy. I mean, appart from the battery stuff, the Matrix movies pretty much tries to be believable to a scientific eye. Well not try to, but I see it as a world that could exist for real. But to me, a person who manages to turn his own flesh into a 802.11c antena is not a "realistic" explanation. Of course, I mean "realistic" as what can be realistic in a movie like this. ;)
You're right, but this incarnation of the Matrix pretty much works now that the machines won't be control freaks in it.
I think I've read somewhere that the Wachovsky brothers said that they wanted people to just forget about the last scene with Neo in the first movie as it would break continuity. Maybe that's it...
", because Smith absorbs Neo, but realizes that the Machine God has access to the whole Smith consciousness through the link that Smith has unwittingly formed
This is a really great theory, except that I was under the impression that Smith absorbed other people than Neo, not only programs. All these people are already connected to the Matrix so the Machine God could have access to them anytime anyway. If he only absborbed programs, that would explain why the Machine God couldn't reach Smith. But I'm pretty sure Smith was meant to asborb humans too. So if Neo dies when Smith abords him, that must also mean that everyone else in the Matrix who has been absorbed are dead too.
The more I think about it, the less I'm satisfied about the Smith vs Neo fight.
I agree with you about the Dark City commentary. That has to be one of the most intelligent audio commentary ever for a movie. Before I laughed about this guy because of the "Two thumbs up!" quote he adds to every film he sees, but now I realize those are "Two very informed and thoughfull thumbs up".
The guy is great.
Really great rant, you have a lot of interresting points, and the opinions you raise are valid though they differ with mine. I hope you'll reply to my post, I'm sure you'll prove me wrong some places. :) So I'll start with...
;) Why can he fight like he does? Well, he's a program, that's probably why. And where he comes from? Probably from the Source, as every other program. Personnaly, this doesn't really bother me. He is there because he needs to be. Character development is important, but furthering this one isn't that worth it. Besides, I like to have my own idea of the purpose or reason of a character.
The Twins? Nope, they just kinda went away.
The twins are to The Matrix what Boba Fett is to Star Wars. They look cool, being ghosts and all, an anomaly in the Matrix, but that's it. They're just henchmen, like the two vampires that Persephone kills.
Near the end of the movie we're left with this huge Architect speech. Looking back, it doesn't even play a role in Revolutions. Does it really matter he's the sixth?
Of course it doesn't matter. All the previouses Matrices built were about control and the illusion of choice. In the third movie Neo chooses his own path and makes his own choices, regardless of what the Architect tells him.
So how does Neo have powers in the real world? We're told it just kinda happened, a quick 2 liner by the Oracle
That you're right, it's my main gripe with the movie. I think were meant to accept it as we are meant to accept that some people in some movies have certain powers. It's been in other movies before, and it's gonna be done again. Maybe in an audio commentary this will be cleared up.
At the end of Revolutions, everyone is still in the Matrix, and Zion, apparently, would still be the only place where the people who escaped live. The machines aren't going to attack Zion anymore, whoopee.
Well for once, we were not shoved a happy ending down our throat. We were given the most realistic ending given the setting. Face it, the earth is a waste land. There's no hope to clean it up, anyway the machines cover the whole place now. And caves are not that interresting. The point is that now people who are in the Matrix now have a CHOICE. They can freely get in or get out. And if they ever regret their choice, they can always get back in and forget they were ever out like Cypher wanted to at the end of the first movie.
Is the Counsel the 23 freed?
I think the architect says that The One choses who is to be freed. And the councel would probably not be the people saved, because the machines would need a lot of humans and quickly to replenish their energy source, so having old men and women who can barely reproduce efficiently (and don't forget that after a certain age there's more risks of birth defects) is not a good idea. So for me, the council was never the ones saved. Heck, I even never thought about that possibility before you mentionned it.
Counselor Hammods speech to Neo about machines helping us? Control?
Like a lot of other points, these things are given as an exercice to the viewer. What's probably going to happen is that machines are going to help humans who live outside the Matrix by building back Zion and other human cities. Thus we will depend on them. But they'll still depend on the people still jacked in.
Burly brawl
Because it was cool, no other reason than that. It's an action movie with a touch of phylosophy, not the other way around.
Learn why Seraph is gold? Why he can fight like he does? Where he comes from?
Gold, you mean chinese right? Maybe I didn't get the part where they say he's made of gold.
Does it even look like the machines care their entire source of energy is about to be destroyed?
To quote (approximately) the architect in the second movie : There is a level of subsistance we are willing to live at.
So I suppose they have
Almost as good as the first one? Not sure yet.
With that said, I can say that Revolution will go down as one of the best, it not the best sci-fi finale ever for a trilogy. (LOTR doesn't count, as it's fantasy). Much better than episode 6 of Star Wars, and probably better than what the finale of the prequels will be.
Contrary to what other people say, I don't believe there are any holes at the end of the movie.
*** SPOILER ALERT ***
First of all, for all of those that said that the machine didn't care that their food could go bye-bye, well, that's not a plot hole, it was EXPLAINED why they accept so in the architect rant at the end of the 2nd one.
Second, why should we know what happens with Zion? Do you really need to see them have another rave of something? They'll rebuild what they can, and that's it. No need to do some cheesy crossfades of clips of people rebuilding the city. Those who want to be unplugged from the Matrix will be, and will live with the humans, as the Architect and the Oracle say at the end. What Neo, and Trinity and Morpheus and everyone wanted most of all to give is CHOICE. CHOICE to be part of the Matrix or not. It's not as if people were badly treaten inside the Matrix. They were happy and everything. The difference between what will go on after the end of the 3rd movie and what was going on before is that humans were hunted and killed when they rejected the Matrix, as they serve no purpose to the machines anymore. Now they will be allowed to be free. It's not as if everyone is going to disconnect from the Matrix all at once.
Anyway, having everyone disconnect would be a really bad idea because after all, the earth is destroyed, there's no hope to get it cleaned up and livable. If they want to live in that mess, FINE, now it's THEIR CHOICE TO DO so. They're not forced to be in the Matrix anymore.
Also, face it Neo is dead. For once, the hero dies in a movie. And I'm glad he did, because seeing him back with the rest of the people Zion would just feel so cheesy. Anyway, for those who doubt he's dead, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be an entry on IMDB soon about how this film as a connection with King Arthur's story. Notice how when his body was carried at the end on a machine ship it looked oddly like when Arthur is laying on a ship and going to the sea when he dies?
Infinite loop! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Somebody must not like Penny-Arcade. I posted the same link as you, and I got modded one time troll and one time funny, and you got modded troll to 0. Hillarious strip. Every once in a while I put it as my wallpaper.
Penny-Arcade already gave a thought to it. :)
Thanks for the info, I'm sure you just stopped a geek somewhere to try it out!
...rushes down to the basement...
Well, I don't watch the show, but it seems to me each guy has some private time with the girl to impress her and each week she decides which guy quits the show and at the end the stays with the guy or something. Anyway, as I said, it's a start. :p
Anyway, as long it's not 12 guys AT THE SAME TIME with the chick....
... but with marijuana plants. Tomajuana anyone?
Don't lose hope. NBC is doing just that right now. It's called "Average Joe". See it here.
What the fsck is your problem. First of all have balls and sign your posts. Second, what I do with my money is none of your buisness allright? Games are 50 bucks. Buying a GC costs the same thing as two games. Since I buy games every other months, because I can't really afford more, that would be 4 months before even owning a GC game. Yeah, that would be sooooo fun. I can't believe there are sooo many people like you polluting Slashdot. Please do us a favor and just stop posting. I hope you come back to read this post. Worst part is, if you do reply, I won't know if you're the same asshole as before.
haven't tried it yet - still using the iTunes store
And I haven't used it yet because it's still not available outside the US. When are these things going to work outside the US?
Personally, I'd prefer Nintendo to only make games and get out of the hardware buisness (well, except the handheld buisness) and make games for the Xbox and PS2. They make really cool games and it's a shame they're available only on Nintendo consoles. I own an Xbox, and I'm really happy with it. I don't miss PS2 games at all, since a lot of them are available on the Xbox, and the exclusives one don't do it for me. But I'd really like to play games like Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime, Mario Party 3.1416 (or whatever they're at now). I'd like to buy a GameCube, but I can't afford a new console, and even I could, it wouldn't be reasonable. (pffff, reasonable... god I'm getting too old!)