Well if I was a trucker or driving a big vehicle, I'd slow down once I saw that sign right out of eisenhower, heading east bound, that basically says: "Get ready for a joyride!". I forget how to describe the sign but to my knowledge I've never seen any other one like it. It basically shows the bend and grade of the road affecting the truck in a non-intuitive way.
Do a --help for both iwlist and iwconfig for all of the options. If you're looking for wpa support, might want to check the forums as that's a different animal if you don't use networkmanager.
'hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit' 'buffer i/o error on device hdc, logical block'
Are normal errors, it's simply the device telling your kernel there is no media currently.
NetworkManager barely made it into dapper in time. It allows you to list wireless networks using gnome and work with the dbus to manage all of your connections. It was going to be the default in edgy but it was pushed due to some other issues that I believe are fixed now. I'd be willing to bet that it will be the default in the one in 7.04, and I'd encourage you to try again then.
Honestly, network manager isn't that hard, but as of right now (with 6.10 and 6.06) you must have dynamic addresses on all interfaces you want it to manage.
sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
sudo vi/etc/network/interfaces (Comment out all lines but "auto lo" by putting a # in front of them)
Then in a terminal type "nm-applet" to get your little network icon up by the clock and click on it. It should give you options for available wireless connections and a wired connection (if it's available as well).
Assuming this all works, add nm-applet to your startup by going to system->preferences->sessions and in the startup tab, add nm-applet
My roomba discovery came with a remote, and I swear the only reasons my sisters come over any more is to "clean" using the roomba w/ the remote. It's useful for the occasional shutdown when it's too loud, but other than that, you can't even issue the park command with the remote - and there's no reverse!
Entertainment? Announcer: And driver number four has just turned left! Wow, Jimmy, another left! Where's the excitment going to stop? Look! OMG ANOTHER LEFT!!! What an amazing race we have here today!
Economy? As I see it, the big three companies are getting bailed out by YOU and I right now.
Transportation? At 180MPH, you'd have a better chance arriving alive if you hiked. Through a desert. Without clothes. Or water. At 180MPH, the braking distance with appropriate tires is enormous, the average person's reactions are atrocious, and you're guaranteed a death certificate by hitting any obstacle larger than a dog.
Sports? "Connect 4" requires more skills, and less money over your entire hobby's lifetime.
The gist is that edgy has many experimental features. It was made known well before release to expect some departures from the norm. Edgy lacks in almost all areas from extensive testing to just plain polish. If you have strange variables like upgrading an upgraded upgrade or wierd combinations of hardware, you may see some issues, and some issues may not be very friendly, though I don't believe there is any dataloss.
A standard computer + fresh edgy install is a good setup, but I wouldn't give it to a newbie because I'd hate to explain how he's running a little experiment. I'd go with dapper and wait for the next LTS version, which is likely to upgrade from dapper very well.
If a linux distro has a gcc installed by default (Hopefully the same one that was used to compile the kernel, cough, unlike redhat, cough), it chould be a sign that the distro may be bloated and a heavy weight.
More packages installed by default == more space used, more security vectors and more clutter.
Personally, I prefer having to install "less" or "build-essential" in debian because I know that if they don't exist, there's probably very few useless tools on my system that could be exploited, that take up space, that conflict with other packages, that run as daemons and steal precious memory/cpu cycles, etc.
Ubuntu, while certainly heavier than debian, follows more or less the same guidelines.
Malaria is an extraordinarily highly evolved disease. It's been around so long that it's becoming generally accepted that sickcell anemia is a symptom of the immune system attempting to evolve against it. There are sleeping bags/nets for malaria, but those won't stop the disease, only put a finger in the dam. I highly doubt a pill is going to come along anytime soon. The disease does most of its maturing within the misquito and by the time it reaches the person, it's pretty much too late in a very short while. I do sometimes agree with people that pharma likes to sell treatments and not cures, but you have to be realistic about malaria, aids and cancer. These diseases have survived a substantial amount of evolution, and we're no where near as effective as darwinism.
In fact, cancer is an entirely different subject. It's not a disease per se, it's a meta-disease. No 1 pill is going to cure it, unless it also simultaneously repairs/replaces genes.
utilities (by which you mean "command-line utilities" != Applications.
See what I meant about everyone has a different opinion? What's the difference between an application and a utility?
That's not the problem, that's the symptom. The problem is *that there's no specific place for them to put things*. Linux would gain 100-fold in usability were it to embrace application and framework/library bundles.
The problem goes much deeper than not having a standardized location, it's that types of programs can, and often do, bleed over into other definitions.
Linux does use libraries/frameworks. In addition to the ones already used, many have died for one reason or another, mostly due to software darwinism.
WTF? Ubuntu is the sole authority on its OS. RedHat is the sole authority on its OS. Debian is the.. well, you get the picture.
The named distros all follow http://www.pathname.com/fhs/. They are the sole authoritity, indeed. They have, however, all decided to follow the same standards. That's more than most OSs can claim.
WTF? take 2. That doesn't even make any sense in the normal way "Apple == MS" doesn't make sense.
They share a similarity in that there are no clear formal rules for what goes where. With debian, I'm all but guaranteed that the package I install from the repos follows all debian guidelines and has predictable locations for files. With OSX and Windows, the applications/utilities I install are all installed with the values the author decided.
To sum up: The difference between application and utility is very hard to gauge. It'd be ridiculous and error-prone to separate them out, so just group them together and be done with it. Maybe 10 years down the road computer science course will decide which end to cut the hard boiled egg on (big end or little end?) and we can make a new folder for apps. Maybe we can even call it "app" without the CAPITAL so we can keep our pinky usage to a minimum (no pun intended).
Suprisingly, linux separates userland utilities already - well at least debian does. Check your/usr/bin folder and compare to/usr/sbin. Alternatively, compare/sbin and/bin.
The reason it doesn't work so well to do it the way you suggested is because there is a lot of gray area. Every person, company, shareware maker, vendor, etc. is going to have a different opinion of where software should go. Just look at unix in general or even other distros (besides debian/ubuntu/gentoo). Apple can do it without few issues because they are the sole authority on their OS. What's the difference between MS and Apple again?
I recommend evaluating beryl, or a comparable GL program. I have the same tendencies as you, it seems, for maximizing windows. Recently, I tried beryl and much to my delight it offers the "cube" desktop, but one better - It lets you "push" applications to a different desktop by dragging the app to the edge of the screen. After a small delay it puts them in another desktop - wickedly satisfying for someone who has grown weary of the other alternatives (right clock menu, move to ->, switch then open, etc).
It's a little unstable for me yet, giving me hard lock ups every so often, so don't say I didn't warn you.
Indeed. I always like to think this is a sign of newbs. If you need to overwrite the files a package maintainer maintains, what good is a package maintainer anymore? He has three paths from here:
A. Keep doing what he is doing, and suffer compounded problems in the long run. (Which is why I think he is a newb, as most people learn this lesson early). B. Deal with what his package manager gives him. C. _Understand_ his system and the intimacies of his package manager. Prevent problems before they happen. Install in/usr/local.
Agreed. The clutter is one if the reasons I switched to gnome. Uglyness was second. Kde _can_ be made to look pretty, but it takes a lot of tweaking. The default gnome on ubuntu is excellent, which is one of the reasons I use it. There is still some life left in kde, though. I am very much looking forward to 4, and I still use konsole and kopete on a daily basis. While gnome-terminal is alright, they still have some speeding up to do as well as some option tweaking (Like when you use your "next tab" left/right shortcut, why does it not wrap? When you enter in a new short cut like "alt-v" - remnants of my tera-term days - for paste in the preferences menu, it does unexpected things, etc.)
It's only when I see screenshots like the ones in that article that I realize just how much polish ubuntu puts in. Still not switching from debian on my servers, though.
OT: The point of posting as AC is that it allows you to say what you think/feel without a penalty. Saying something bad about apple will get you a smackdown which casts you into the depths of -1 ness for some time. The same goes for most other anti-group think posts. I've had to climb out of the -1 abyss a few times, and it's not exactly fun. While you don't get as much recognition for a 0 mod, it's still better than posting at -1.
Since it has to be powerful and flexible, it has a daunting config, but it is worth every second of your learning when you have more than a few machines.
I have the 6700 as well and am just wondering how you can stand minimo? For me, it's slower than slow. After about 2 minutes with it (after the 2 minutes it took to load), I trashed it and haven't tried it again (This was 8 months ago or so).
Thanks for the tip on KeePass and Argentim though...
I paired my phone recently with a (Holux) GPS and iNav software, it took me to far-north central manitoba, Canada and was still very accurate. I play MP3s (free plays for sure subscription), browse the web, read ebooks (acrobat sucks on this, so you're stuck with MS reader), and use google maps. This phone is by far one of most extensible phones I've owned. The reliability, being MS software, is another story entirely.
My 36" sony wega has the same issues with starting up, except its more like 11-14 seconds before I see the picture, and I get about 6 clicks. I thought it was defective when I first got it, but I'm on year 8.
The oil supply is finite. Say it with me: "finite"
This means there's only so much. There's no magical fairies with wands lobbing barrels of oil, coal, or natural gas into underground reservoirs for our plundering. Oil took millions of years to form from organic deposits. Organic deposits which represent life forms so diverse, you and I have not and can not imagine them. Numbers of organisms so high, that they make our current environment look like a mail order ant farm. We'll certainly have it used up with in the millenium at the exponentially increasing rate of consumption we're currently at. Arguably, the only true "natural" resources we have are the sun, which provides us with energy which more or less provides us with conditions favorable for our current environment, and the elements that accreted on our planet and one time or another. The elements either reflect the energy back into space, or collect and store the energy somehow.
Even the sun's energy is finite, but I won't be around long enough to collect the money from you that I'd win in the bet. We burn oil. We burn gas. We have nuclear power plants. This means we're breaking down the molecular bonds of this "trapped energy" and taking a considerably small portion of it for ourselves. Remarkably, the rest of the energy we didn't use is still stored in molecular bonds in the form of stuff we don't like. Well, I shouldn't say we, there could be a few people out there that like the breathing of, and seeing of, the yellow-brown haze that dwarfs clouds on a warm summer's day, or those beautiful sites layered with "Radioactive" signs and big fences. Sure beats those rolling green hills, wildlife and clear rivers, doesn't it?
In any case, there are evils and lesser evils. Right now oil is about the worst one, not only because it's byproducts are so wretched, but also because we're building our entire civilization on it, while being totally ignorant to an approaching light at the end of the tunnel.
At least in the US, the reason we haven't noticed _much_ difference, is because we've been able to unlock old reservoirs that we promised ourselves we wouldn't touch, in addition to having more advanced technology to find more supply. There's no secret we have plenty of oil right now, but the way you word that response is that you're confident we'll have oil indefinitly, which is certainly not the case.
Dams can only do so much. Watch how arizona, nevada and cali all bicker about the colorado river for an idea of why. Of course, it doesn't help that someone had the bright idea of building cities with parks, lawns and fountains in the desert, but that's not my point.
So are you just ignorant to the huge yellow and brown clouds lingering over even moderately sized cities in the US? I'd say we affect the climate more than we admit.
I suspect that the manufacturers design their hardware around the OS. I'd expect the same trends we see here to apply to laptops made around the win98->win2k rollout(Didn't use 2k->xp because they are pretty similiar). After some time, I expect Dell, et. al., to sell laptops that support vista's S3 bugs, nuances and expectations, because they engineers have had time to futz around with everything.
The problem with ACPI, IMHO, is not that noone follows the standards, it's that the standards are so general, you can interperet them seven ways from Sunday and still claim you are fully compliant.
If you're losing _any_ email besides as a result the reasonable processes you've implemented for blocking spam, it's my opinion that you're failing your task. IMNSHO, a sysadmin's first priority should be to not lose data. Then there's more time for quake.
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Well if I was a trucker or driving a big vehicle, I'd slow down once I saw that sign right out of eisenhower, heading east bound, that basically says: "Get ready for a joyride!". I forget how to describe the sign but to my knowledge I've never seen any other one like it. It basically shows the bend and grade of the road affecting the truck in a non-intuitive way.
Forgot one thing, for scanning from cmdline do:
iwlist scan
To associate do:
iwconfig eth1 essid foo
Do a --help for both iwlist and iwconfig for all of the options. If you're looking for wpa support, might want to check the forums as that's a different animal if you don't use networkmanager.
It is also called bridging mode, FYI.
/etc/network/interfaces (Comment out all lines but "auto lo" by putting a # in front of them)
Also, the:
'hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected null handler on exit'
'buffer i/o error on device hdc, logical block'
Are normal errors, it's simply the device telling your kernel there is no media currently.
NetworkManager barely made it into dapper in time. It allows you to list wireless networks using gnome and work with the dbus to manage all of your connections. It was going to be the default in edgy but it was pushed due to some other issues that I believe are fixed now. I'd be willing to bet that it will be the default in the one in 7.04, and I'd encourage you to try again then.
Honestly, network manager isn't that hard, but as of right now (with 6.10 and 6.06) you must have dynamic addresses on all interfaces you want it to manage.
sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
sudo vi
Then in a terminal type "nm-applet" to get your little network icon up by the clock and click on it. It should give you options for available wireless connections and a wired connection (if it's available as well).
Assuming this all works, add nm-applet to your startup by going to system->preferences->sessions and in the startup tab, add nm-applet
My roomba discovery came with a remote, and I swear the only reasons my sisters come over any more is to "clean" using the roomba w/ the remote. It's useful for the occasional shutdown when it's too loud, but other than that, you can't even issue the park command with the remote - and there's no reverse!
What territory is this and what's the purpose?
Entertainment? Announcer: And driver number four has just turned left! Wow, Jimmy, another left! Where's the excitment going to stop? Look! OMG ANOTHER LEFT!!! What an amazing race we have here today!
Economy? As I see it, the big three companies are getting bailed out by YOU and I right now.
Transportation? At 180MPH, you'd have a better chance arriving alive if you hiked. Through a desert. Without clothes. Or water. At 180MPH, the braking distance with appropriate tires is enormous, the average person's reactions are atrocious, and you're guaranteed a death certificate by hitting any obstacle larger than a dog.
Sports? "Connect 4" requires more skills, and less money over your entire hobby's lifetime.
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4828732453.html
The gist is that edgy has many experimental features. It was made known well before release to expect some departures from the norm. Edgy lacks in almost all areas from extensive testing to just plain polish. If you have strange variables like upgrading an upgraded upgrade or wierd combinations of hardware, you may see some issues, and some issues may not be very friendly, though I don't believe there is any dataloss.
A standard computer + fresh edgy install is a good setup, but I wouldn't give it to a newbie because I'd hate to explain how he's running a little experiment. I'd go with dapper and wait for the next LTS version, which is likely to upgrade from dapper very well.
Well, in terms of bloated, I'd say no. It needs gcc, flex, bison, ncurses-dev, etc, for daily maintenance and use operations.
Heavy? Maybe, maybe not. Heavy by comparison to slimmer distros? Yes. Heavy in terms of what you could install? No.
Gentoo, LFS and other distros of that ilk are why I used the word "may".
If a linux distro has a gcc installed by default (Hopefully the same one that was used to compile the kernel, cough, unlike redhat, cough), it chould be a sign that the distro may be bloated and a heavy weight.
More packages installed by default == more space used, more security vectors and more clutter.
Personally, I prefer having to install "less" or "build-essential" in debian because I know that if they don't exist, there's probably very few useless tools on my system that could be exploited, that take up space, that conflict with other packages, that run as daemons and steal precious memory/cpu cycles, etc.
Ubuntu, while certainly heavier than debian, follows more or less the same guidelines.
Nearly every game these days is slammed up against the 4 GB wall.
FYI: The 360 games, at least, can use DVD9. Not sure about the PS2.
Malaria is an extraordinarily highly evolved disease. It's been around so long that it's becoming generally accepted that sickcell anemia is a symptom of the immune system attempting to evolve against it. There are sleeping bags/nets for malaria, but those won't stop the disease, only put a finger in the dam. I highly doubt a pill is going to come along anytime soon. The disease does most of its maturing within the misquito and by the time it reaches the person, it's pretty much too late in a very short while. I do sometimes agree with people that pharma likes to sell treatments and not cures, but you have to be realistic about malaria, aids and cancer. These diseases have survived a substantial amount of evolution, and we're no where near as effective as darwinism.
In fact, cancer is an entirely different subject. It's not a disease per se, it's a meta-disease. No 1 pill is going to cure it, unless it also simultaneously repairs/replaces genes.
utilities (by which you mean "command-line utilities" != Applications.
See what I meant about everyone has a different opinion? What's the difference between an application and a utility?
That's not the problem, that's the symptom. The problem is *that there's no specific place for them to put things*. Linux would gain 100-fold in usability were it to embrace application and framework/library bundles.
The problem goes much deeper than not having a standardized location, it's that types of programs can, and often do, bleed over into other definitions.
Linux does use libraries/frameworks. In addition to the ones already used, many have died for one reason or another, mostly due to software darwinism.
WTF? Ubuntu is the sole authority on its OS. RedHat is the sole authority on its OS. Debian is the.. well, you get the picture.
The named distros all follow http://www.pathname.com/fhs/. They are the sole authoritity, indeed. They have, however, all decided to follow the same standards. That's more than most OSs can claim.
WTF? take 2. That doesn't even make any sense in the normal way "Apple == MS" doesn't make sense.
They share a similarity in that there are no clear formal rules for what goes where. With debian, I'm all but guaranteed that the package I install from the repos follows all debian guidelines and has predictable locations for files. With OSX and Windows, the applications/utilities I install are all installed with the values the author decided.
To sum up: The difference between application and utility is very hard to gauge. It'd be ridiculous and error-prone to separate them out, so just group them together and be done with it. Maybe 10 years down the road computer science course will decide which end to cut the hard boiled egg on (big end or little end?) and we can make a new folder for apps. Maybe we can even call it "app" without the CAPITAL so we can keep our pinky usage to a minimum (no pun intended).
Suprisingly, linux separates userland utilities already - well at least debian does. Check your /usr/bin folder and compare to /usr/sbin. Alternatively, compare /sbin and /bin.
The reason it doesn't work so well to do it the way you suggested is because there is a lot of gray area. Every person, company, shareware maker, vendor, etc. is going to have a different opinion of where software should go. Just look at unix in general or even other distros (besides debian/ubuntu/gentoo). Apple can do it without few issues because they are the sole authority on their OS. What's the difference between MS and Apple again?
I recommend evaluating beryl, or a comparable GL program. I have the same tendencies as you, it seems, for maximizing windows. Recently, I tried beryl and much to my delight it offers the "cube" desktop, but one better - It lets you "push" applications to a different desktop by dragging the app to the edge of the screen. After a small delay it puts them in another desktop - wickedly satisfying for someone who has grown weary of the other alternatives (right clock menu, move to ->, switch then open, etc).
It's a little unstable for me yet, giving me hard lock ups every so often, so don't say I didn't warn you.
Indeed. I always like to think this is a sign of newbs. If you need to overwrite the files a package maintainer maintains, what good is a package maintainer anymore? He has three paths from here:
/usr/local.
A. Keep doing what he is doing, and suffer compounded problems in the long run. (Which is why I think he is a newb, as most people learn this lesson early).
B. Deal with what his package manager gives him.
C. _Understand_ his system and the intimacies of his package manager. Prevent problems before they happen. Install in
Agreed. The clutter is one if the reasons I switched to gnome. Uglyness was second. Kde _can_ be made to look pretty, but it takes a lot of tweaking. The default gnome on ubuntu is excellent, which is one of the reasons I use it. There is still some life left in kde, though. I am very much looking forward to 4, and I still use konsole and kopete on a daily basis. While gnome-terminal is alright, they still have some speeding up to do as well as some option tweaking (Like when you use your "next tab" left/right shortcut, why does it not wrap? When you enter in a new short cut like "alt-v" - remnants of my tera-term days - for paste in the preferences menu, it does unexpected things, etc.)
It's only when I see screenshots like the ones in that article that I realize just how much polish ubuntu puts in. Still not switching from debian on my servers, though.
OT: The point of posting as AC is that it allows you to say what you think/feel without a penalty. Saying something bad about apple will get you a smackdown which casts you into the depths of -1 ness for some time. The same goes for most other anti-group think posts. I've had to climb out of the -1 abyss a few times, and it's not exactly fun. While you don't get as much recognition for a 0 mod, it's still better than posting at -1.
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Since it has to be powerful and flexible, it has a daunting config, but it is worth every second of your learning when you have more than a few machines.
I have the 6700 as well and am just wondering how you can stand minimo? For me, it's slower than slow. After about 2 minutes with it (after the 2 minutes it took to load), I trashed it and haven't tried it again (This was 8 months ago or so).
Thanks for the tip on KeePass and Argentim though...
I paired my phone recently with a (Holux) GPS and iNav software, it took me to far-north central manitoba, Canada and was still very accurate. I play MP3s (free plays for sure subscription), browse the web, read ebooks (acrobat sucks on this, so you're stuck with MS reader), and use google maps. This phone is by far one of most extensible phones I've owned. The reliability, being MS software, is another story entirely.
My 36" sony wega has the same issues with starting up, except its more like 11-14 seconds before I see the picture, and I get about 6 clicks. I thought it was defective when I first got it, but I'm on year 8.
p.s. Only sony product I own, and proud of it!
The oil supply is finite. Say it with me: "finite"
This means there's only so much. There's no magical fairies with wands lobbing barrels of oil, coal, or natural gas into underground reservoirs for our plundering. Oil took millions of years to form from organic deposits. Organic deposits which represent life forms so diverse, you and I have not and can not imagine them. Numbers of organisms so high, that they make our current environment look like a mail order ant farm. We'll certainly have it used up with in the millenium at the exponentially increasing rate of consumption we're currently at. Arguably, the only true "natural" resources we have are the sun, which provides us with energy which more or less provides us with conditions favorable for our current environment, and the elements that accreted on our planet and one time or another. The elements either reflect the energy back into space, or collect and store the energy somehow.
Even the sun's energy is finite, but I won't be around long enough to collect the money from you that I'd win in the bet. We burn oil. We burn gas. We have nuclear power plants. This means we're breaking down the molecular bonds of this "trapped energy" and taking a considerably small portion of it for ourselves. Remarkably, the rest of the energy we didn't use is still stored in molecular bonds in the form of stuff we don't like. Well, I shouldn't say we, there could be a few people out there that like the breathing of, and seeing of, the yellow-brown haze that dwarfs clouds on a warm summer's day, or those beautiful sites layered with "Radioactive" signs and big fences. Sure beats those rolling green hills, wildlife and clear rivers, doesn't it?
In any case, there are evils and lesser evils. Right now oil is about the worst one, not only because it's byproducts are so wretched, but also because we're building our entire civilization on it, while being totally ignorant to an approaching light at the end of the tunnel.
At least in the US, the reason we haven't noticed _much_ difference, is because we've been able to unlock old reservoirs that we promised ourselves we wouldn't touch, in addition to having more advanced technology to find more supply. There's no secret we have plenty of oil right now, but the way you word that response is that you're confident we'll have oil indefinitly, which is certainly not the case.
Dams can only do so much. Watch how arizona, nevada and cali all bicker about the colorado river for an idea of why. Of course, it doesn't help that someone had the bright idea of building cities with parks, lawns and fountains in the desert, but that's not my point.
So are you just ignorant to the huge yellow and brown clouds lingering over even moderately sized cities in the US? I'd say we affect the climate more than we admit.
I suspect that the manufacturers design their hardware around the OS. I'd expect the same trends we see here to apply to laptops made around the win98->win2k rollout(Didn't use 2k->xp because they are pretty similiar). After some time, I expect Dell, et. al., to sell laptops that support vista's S3 bugs, nuances and expectations, because they engineers have had time to futz around with everything.
The problem with ACPI, IMHO, is not that noone follows the standards, it's that the standards are so general, you can interperet them seven ways from Sunday and still claim you are fully compliant.
If you're losing _any_ email besides as a result the reasonable processes you've implemented for blocking spam, it's my opinion that you're failing your task. IMNSHO, a sysadmin's first priority should be to not lose data. Then there's more time for quake.