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People Swapping PS3s for Wiis?
An anonymous reader writes "To add to Sony's problems with the PS3 launch, it now appears that some Playstation 3 owners are trying to trade their PS3s for Wiis. The author writes: 'There's also speculation that people want the Wii because the PS3s best game is Resistance: Fall of Man. This, of course, forget that there are plenty of cool PS3 games on the way, and the PS3 has its own motion sensing technology, which, while not as good as the Wii, is still pretty cool and opens up Sony to emulate some of the Wii's successes.'"
I'd trade in too if my Wii looked like this.
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Great, now even more people are taking my Wiis. I'm thinking about waiting until March with the discount + colors now since it's not that far away anymore. That is... if I even get one at all.
My UID is prime... is yours?
To be fair, it does happen the other way around plenty, and with 360s, too. I've seen a lot of people return their Wiis when they learnt that online play wouldn't be Nintendo's main focus.
Not enough people, unfortunately, since I got Zelda for christmas, and I have no Wii to play it on >. I had several chances at a PS3, but not at a Wii, grrrrrrr...
but that didn't happen...
An interesting story for my fellow dotters on a Christmas night...potentially offtopic, but probably not...
So I'm over my girlfriend's parents' house this evening for Christmas dinner. First Christmas for the both of us together, though I've been to the parents' house several times before, a nice yet cozy 3/1.5 built in the 1950s. We were getting ready to sit down for dinner, with the presents to be exchanged after dessert.
So we're in the living room making the normal chit-chat about work and family and presents, yada yada yada. And then it hits me. That "you know what it means when it happens" cramp in your colon. And then a bubble or two. I'm percolating. A cold sweat comes over me. And then your intestines tell your brain in no uncertain terms: things will be exiting soon, at a very rapid pace.
So I excuse myself from the conversation, sweat already forming on my brow, and I make my way to the back bedroom to purge this unrelenting force from my bowels. But oh my God...my GF's father is in the back bathroom. The only other bathroom is a small bath located directly off of the living room itself. Oh no, that would never do. But alas, the percolation continues and my colon is screaming for purging. This will wait no longer.
So I return to the living room, no time for chit chat, though everyone there can sense that something is not quite right by the sweat pouring down my forehead and the singular purpose on my face. I plow my way into the guest bathroom and barely have time to sit on the toilet before the full force of a major colon blow bellows forth from my rectum. The sound virtually echoes in the small half bath and then the purging continues unabated, half diarrhea half flatulence over and over, shit splashing up on my backside. This process continues for a good 5 minutes before the wave is over. And now I sit there, brown liquid dripping off my anus, dripping off the sides and lid of the toilet.
And I ponder how I will exit the bathroom.
Do I pretend nothing happened. Do I play the sympathy angle? Play the "I'm sick sweetheart" angle? I decide to just play it off and pretend nothing happened. Perhaps they hadn't heard anything. Maybe it was all in my mind how noisy and guttural the sounds were.
So I flush, do my best to tidy up the bowl with the tiny little toilet brush they had next to the toilet. Wash, and exit.
And I exit to the horrified wide-eyed look of everyone in the living room. Yes, Virginia, it was really that loud apparently. GF's mom asks me if I'm ok. I play it off like, why yes, I'm fine, why? And then it hits. Like a brown fog descending on the valley, the odor from the bathroom washes over us like a wave from hell. I had turned the entire living room into a dutch oven. Oh my god.
So I did the only thing I could come up with quickly and motioned to the GF that we had to leave. And we made our quick apologies and made our way to the exit, while her mom noticeably gagged on the stench that had blown out of my asshole. And on our way out -- which the GF's mom by the way didn't object to at all (she was likely in a state of shock over what she had witnessed) -- the GF's dad comes out from the back bedroom and the stench hits him like a baseball bat to the face. The expression on his face was priceless, you'd think he had just walked into a room filled with mustard gas.
At that point, we quickly departed leaving behind a half dozen victims of my gastric evacuation. Merry fucking Christmas, LOL.
At first the GF was mad, but after we started laughing about it (and about a few of the "victims" whom we both can't stand) all was forgiven. I can't imagine eating Christmas dinner in that house, with it wreaking of shit and bowel blowback.
This is a lame story.
I'll gladly trade my lightly used Wii for a new or lightly used PS3. Any takers?
1. Trade in PS3 for a Wii (and maybe a few Wiimotes/games)
2. ???
3. PROFIT!
on video games. She and her family won't buy a new console for at least the first six months that it's out because they want to see what actually comes out for it, what others think, how many bugs it has, etc. I'm not surprised in the least now because the PS3 is very expensive, said to be rushed in a number of areas, and well, wasn't quite worth the hype.
As a former Dreamcast fan, I'm not surprised. Sony's hype engine is a double-edged sword. On the one hand it can really crush a poorly marketed, but good console. On the other, it set a bar that was ridiculous for their engineers to try to achieve.
People are starting to wise up to Sony and realize that they are great at hyping stuff that ends up being no better than their competition's products that happen to be significantly cheaper. They probably haven't even figured out why it is that Apple has kicked them squarely in the nuts in the digital music player market. I think their worst nightmare would be a dynamic duo of Apple and Nintendo building the One True Living Room Suite.
There are so many good games for XBox/XBox 360 and Playstation 2 that only hardcore gamers need to really go out and buy a PS3. I'm going back now and buying all of the games I missed when I was busy graduating from college last year and... there's no reason for a guy like me to buy a PS3 for at least a year and a half.
I tell you what...for all the hype around these things just a few weeks ago, I've had three chances to buy one (a PS3) in the last few days. One was a friend who bought two of them for Ebay and couldn't sell them at all. The other two times were regular retail stores while I was Christmas shopping. I passed all three times. Not sure why but the price of those things sure made me think twice.
I can certainly see buyer's remorse sneaking in after people play it for a few days and realize that maybe it isn't $500 cooler than their old PS2.
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And posted anonymously by Jason, no less.
The real reason why people are switching from PS3 to Wii:
This commercial.
People are trading PS3's and Wii's for money, too! Shocking!
Not the linked article, the article the linked article linked to...
In my search of Austin, I only turned up 6 total people who wanted to trade their PS3 for a Wii, so I moved on to New York City, which boasted a pretty substantial 18 desired trades. Here's where it gets crazy: in San Francisco, there are 48 different PS3 for Wii trades going on at this moment. Now, keep in mind, most of these trades are requesting a Wii plus cash difference, but there is the occasional barter that will take a loss just to get their hands on the latest Nintendo console.
So to summarize - the "occasional" person willing to trade a PS3 for a Wii straight up warrants another Slashdot front-page zOMG SONY IS SO SCREWED wankfest.
The fact that MOST of the trades want the Wii + the cash difference is apparently totally irrelevant. Tell you what, I'm willing to trade my brand new video iPod for some used dental floss and $1,000. Now someone write an article about this amazing new trend of people shunning Apple in favor of OralB!
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
..people wanting to play something that's fun. What's the video game industry coming too...
Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.
Friend loaned me his PS3. Meh. If Resistance is THE game to own for it right now, save your money. GoW is 10x the game. The new GT HD "concept" demo is pretty good, but as for graphics I think PGR3 looked every bit as good a year ago. Physics in the game? That's a different story. Sony's network implementation leaves a LOT to be desired. I'll happily keep paying my $50/year Live membership over Sony's free offering. I couldn't even use my normal nickname since Junkie is a banned word on their service.
I love consoles and I'm sure I'll end up with one...but it'll be at least 6 months. Luckily I just moved to a 1080p DLP set from my older HD RPTV that didn't do 720p. If I had my old set everything I've played except for GT HD would have been shown in 480p.
The hype around the Wii is more than fanboyism, it's obvious that astroturfing is going on. Not that I think the other consols are any better - I pitty anyone who falls for one of those soul-less marketing black holes.
-IAAAC
The PS3 doesn't have motion-sensing technology. It has gyros that can sense the controller's tilt. No MEMS accelerometers, and no position sensitivity.
It's a cheap knockoff, and everybody knows it except idiot Sony fanboys.
Is that another Sony run website or is that real? ...
I couldn't imagine anyone (who is not [in]directly paid by Sony) being all that interested in the PS3
Maybe I'm wrong though
A PS3 just went for $630 on eBay. Almost down to retail. We'll probably see the speculators trying to dump unsold stock starting tomorrow.
I own all three systems and generally don't play favourites, but I have had the most fun on the 360, followed very closely by the Wii and I have had NO fun with any of the PS3 games. The PS3's "showcase" game: Resistance: Fall of Man is a joke, a total and utter joke. My friends came over and watched me play the game from the start without sound (we had yet to hook up my Christmas present (new audio system) and were laughing our asses off at how stupid EVERYTHING in the game is. The A.I. is sooooooooo stupid. It sticks it's head out, shoots, takes cover: rinse, repeat. I mean, come on, Half Life, TEN YEARS ago has better A.I. Everything in the game looks cartoony and crappy, especially explosions. I can't believe how anyone is giving RFOM good reviews. Honestly, if you put this game in the PS2 kiosk at a mall, nobody would look twice. I was expecting at least Half Life 2 level graphics, not PS2.5 graphics. Yes, I know super, uber games are coming out this time NEXT year, but that's an awful long wait to shell out $600 bucks (minimum) for what Sony touts as the "true" next-gen. Sony has already lost this war, and everyone knows it. Just look at all of the developers jumping ship, producing 360 versions of supposed PS3 only games. Also, don't forget that the Wii development kit is only $3,000, so you'll see a lot of really fun, inventive, games on the Wii. Sony is in a no-win situation. The public perception is that the 360 is just as powerful, if not more powerful than the PS3 and it costs upward $300. Coupled with the fact that Sony is losing at least $300 on each PS3, it's hard to see how Sony can pull this one out, let alone attain the number one spot again.
"Jeremy, you need to get to an internet cafe and cut and paste some appropriate sentiments about me from the world wide
Nope, that's holiday drinking, too much rich food, and more holiday drinking for you.
Because it looks like the PS3 might go the way of the Dreamcast, and they are going to have a lot of extra hungry consumers. For all it's perceived worth, the PS3 is worth much...yet. It will be, if it lives long enough. But let's face it, we need them to come in third place or lose. Just like we needed Nintendo to come in 3rd/lose, like what happened. Winners become assholes, just like Nintendo once was, just like Sony is now, and just like MS will be(in the console world). But, it would be best if Sony doesn't completely quit. One thing that I wish never happened was SEGA's withdrawal from the race. It created less competition. Now if Sony's nightmare scenario comes true, and the PS3 fails, and they have to withdraw, or worse, they sell the gaming division to MS(most likely), I wonder if SEGA might jump back in.
ebay fees, paypal fees, shipping costs, sales tax on the initial purchase of the PS3...
unless the seller is (over)charging $100 for shipping, they could have lost money on this sale.
Compared to the Wii, which is still going for $400+ It's still worth a professional ebay sellers time to snatch them up as soon as they go on sale, and flip them on ebay.
------ Work is so much easier when you don't
Part of the attraction of consoles is that it is immediate entertainment. Unlike most other forms of entertainment (going out, going and renting a movie etc), consoles provide entertainment RIGHT NOW.
That is what many gamers want, right now.
So is anybody really surprised that having to wait for games to be released isn't satisfying some gamers?
--I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
My god, that was epic. For a second I could swear I was on 4chan. I had to triple check that this was slashdot. Well done, sir, well done.
...buy a PS3 at launch. It is an abortion. The Wii is fun, but it is a lot of hype, too. The controller is certainly unique, but I don't want to play it for 3 hours at a go. Plus, the graphics are lame. Neither of these have well implemented online infrastructure. I don't care about browsing the internet with a console. I just want to play games with friends around the country. If you can get over the fact that the 360 is a MSFT product, it does what it's supposed to do rather well. Ok, so there's no motion control. I'm already tired of the Wii control scheme. The PS3 is back in its box. Resistance is just another game--it just happens to be THE game for the PS3. Maybe I'll hook it up again when F1 2006 comes out in, wait for it, 2007. In the mean time, I'll have wasted a few hundred hours of my life on XBox Live.
you seriously realize that you have to break up with her now, right? :)
Wow, I just read that entire story and was sure the punch line would be about TMX Elmo. Guess not.
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It's too bad they're not trading around 360 power bricks...one could say that they're hot-swappable.
Ever hear of a courtesy flush? Nothing wrong shitting and flushing at the same time.
Good-bye
This is a very old rumor that is false.
Of course, since it's your "girlfriend" and not your "wife", none of us believe you.
If that is the case then Rogers Video outlets should educate their staff.
Undetectable Steganography? Yep, there's an app fo
Huh? Do you have a link to back that up? I've gotten almost all my PS2 games used, so having that option taken away would be a showstopper for me buying a PS3, not just until they're easier to get, but ever.
If he provides a link, it'll just be a link of some other misinformed person spreading incorrect rumors. I wish they just wouldn't talk about stuff they have no knowledge of, because now we have yet another person who "heard it from someone". Just don't repeat it. Let it die already.
R:FOM, ridge racer and that genji? game. I didn't open a single one, and plan on returning them. It took me hours of trial and error trying to update the firmware so i could connect to the ps store and get the gt hd and motorstorm demos, which i finally did. They're great demos, and i'll enjoy those for a while and start renting brd's through netflix, but aside from that i'll continue playing guitar hero 2 on my ps2 until some good ps3 games come out. Guess i won't get that Wii i really wanted.
Gimme, gimme.
Seriously, shut up.
Hey, I'm no Sony fan, but FUD is bad from any direction. Gamefly certainly think you can rent PS3 games.
---- Den ene knappen er powerknapp, den andre er Bender voice knapp "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass"
i hope that you enjoy all of these wonderful and fantastic gifts.
But my fangirlism for Insomniac Games will not allow you to badmouth Resistance! Even if Sony is completely insane, Insomniac knows what they're doing, and the detail of theirs being the best game for the console right now proves that.
I have no reason to believe that this game isn't top-notch, except for the detail of "I haven't played it yet". That should be corrected over the next few weeks at minimum.
I ended up trading it today with a friend who got a Wii. I gave him a PS3, he gave me the Wii + 350. Best trade ever.
...allows anyone to create their own games, albeit for a small fee (free for the Windows platform). After playing with it a bit I can imagine a lot of non-programmers putting together really cool--AND FUN--games. The PS2 Linux dev kit was cool, yeah, but was one hell of a hump to climb to get anything on the screen.
Brian, is that you?
And yes, we will be giving you a PS3. And a Wii and a 360 after tonight. Just LEAVE ALONE MY DAUGHTER.
Obama likes poor people so much, he wants to make more of them.
reminds me of something on alt.tasteless...
Oh, I forgot the booktype/story telling kind of games, of which the lawyer games seems the most liked but there are others released/in the works aswell.
...)
;D
(Phoenix Wright: Ace attorny and the follow up, Another Code and the follow up, Hotel Dusk,
Also I guess the "non-game titles" should be mentioned, such as the brain training, cooking game, and such, which I don't care about
Everybody gets the shits. And everybody's mama too. But I guess you didn't get your PS3. Or did talk of the PS3 remind you of a shit story? Speaking of shit stories, this one time when I was hitch-hiking . . . Or maybe you just didn't get that Wii you wanted. Which is why you're writing pointless shit stories on Slashdot instead of fiddling with your Wii. I didn't get a Wii either. Happy Christmas.
Oh come on now. I get a sick pleasure out of all of the Sony FUD (the word is Schadenfreude) but this is just stupid. If 1000 people trade their PS3 for a Wii, guess how many people are trading their Wii for a PS3? Hmm...1000?
Jesus, getting busted for astroturfing once wasn't enough for Sony?
Why not link to the original story which actually has hard data in it? Rather than some copy which mentions "cragslist" (whatever that is) and uses vague weasel words like "a number of people". 1 is a number, 100 is a number, 0 is a number.
- for-wiis/
http://gigagamez.com/2006/12/22/ps3s-being-traded
And the link was even right in the write up, no searching required.
I hadn't been planning on buying any of the next gen gaming consoles. I have my PC, WOW, some other games, and a long backlog on my PS2 that I don't have time to get to. Why waste money? Especially since I'd need a badass TV to display the PS3 in all it's glory? I can feed my PS2 through my PC to play FF12 on my LCD monitor, and it's all right, though much uglier than even Quake1 (which I've gotten back into, incidentally -- Quake1 with Bloom is awesome. And free: www.customtf.com).
But then I was hanging out with my family for the holidays and was trying to figure out something for everyone to do (nobody wanted to play Settlers of Catan yet again) when I suddenly realized that a Wii would be the perfect thing (we're all a pretty techie family). I went out to all the stores in the area, and found it's totally sold out, more or less everywhere. Bummer. And once the holidays are over, my desire to own one will drop back down to nil, since I'm not going to play my Wii with myself.
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Your parents have way too much money. I had to buy my Wii myself since it's too expensive to be a christmas present.
Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
while noone publicizes this and everyone 3's nintendo for making zelda so great (dont get me wrong im a huge fan, been playing since '86 :))
;)
the success of the wii RIGHT NOW is due largely in part to zelda. Would you rather play Twilight Princess, the sequel to the game widely regarded as the greatest of all time, or _yet another boring launch fps_?
delaying zelda until wii launch is one of the two greatest business moves of the past two generations of consoles, the other being motion sensitivity
it took 16 years, but nintendo is finally back on top of their game
can they hold on?
p.s. im honestly not trolling, i just lack social graces
Sunday morning (Christmas Eve) about 10AM we met my Dad at Best Buy because he wanted to buy the family a DVR. After wandering around for over an hour (and buying a DVD-R instead, d'oh) we passed a table in the front of the store where a manager type was standing over some boxes. He looked at us and said "Anyone want a PS3?"
I realized he had four PS3s on the table. I said "No, thanks." and kept walking. Chuckling to my fiance about it.
I remembered that a friend of the family was looking for one, so I started a long chain of calls to get in contact with them. Her son arrived a little over an hour later to pick one up.
To see four PS3s sitting on the table.
In the front of the store.
With a guy asking everyone who passed if they wanted one.
On Christmas Eve.
This does not bode well.
Maxim: People cannot follow directions.
Increases in truth directly with the length of time spent explaining them
This is absolutely true. The prime example is a female friend of mine. Whenever the topic comes to video games, she explains that she doesn't play videogames because they're too complicated. "I'm too stupid," she'll exclaim. She's not stupid at all (she's studying law, and she's really very sharp), and she's also not not playing video games: She does play Donkey Konga and Dance Dance Revolution, and she loves Magnetica on the DS. She'd never even pick up a normal controller, but she does like playing Wii.
If you're new to video games, the standard controllers are overwhelming. The Pong had a knob. The VCS 2600 had one digital stick and one button. The original NES controller had a D-Pad, A, B, Start and Select. Since then, every generation has simply added new stuff to the controller: an Analog stick, shoulder buttons, a second set of shoulder buttons, a second analog stick, more buttons, analog shoulder buttons, analog shoulder buttons with a digital "pressed" state, analog face buttons, analog sticks you can also press to create the effect of yet anoter button... People picking up a controller for the first time simply can't learn it in any kind of meaningful time frame.
The Wii remote has gone back to the very beginning: Wii Sports needs two buttons, A and B, and that's it. And you don't even need the buttons during gameplay of most games.
Oh, it's obvious? How is that obvious? Do you have any kind of evidence? Or could it just be that the Wii is freaking fun to play, and people like to talk about it?
I agree, though, this is much more than fanboyism. But it's not astroturfing: People are simply genuinely excited about the Wii.
ryanw loves himself some scientific explanations of the PS3's superiority:
Wow, three times more powerful! Who would have thought! And the modders declare:
Precious little Slashdot... :-)
that's just awfull
Do you have any cites for this "common parlance" in which "rocking" does not involve movement? Or in which rotation doesn't involve movement? I don't know of anyone who would subscribe to this "common" parlance. They'd have to be pretty damn stupid to say that something which is rocking or rotating is not moving.
Well I guess I may be a little coloured by my exposure to mathematics, but none of my friends would refer to a rotating body as "moving", but they're mostly physicists and computer scientists, so therein may lie the problem in the difference between what I consider "common parlance" and what you consider "common parlance"...
So I'll offer up some references:
motion (m'shn)
n.
1. The act or process of changing position or place.
"motion." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 26 Dec. 2006.
While in mathematics rotation is defined as:
The turning of an object or coordinate system by an angle about a fixed point.
Weisstein, Eric W. "Rotation." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Rotation.html
Which taking into account the previous definition of 'motion' means the object has not moved, as it's rotating around a fixed point.
That's just fucking retarded.
I guess that's one way to describe math. I imagine Pythagoras said something similar before he had Hipassus drowned for discovering irrational numbers. His shouting of epithets and subsequent termination (with extreme prejudice) of his student, however, did not change the truth behind Hipassus's proof. Extrapolate that experience onto our current one.
Motion does not just involve a displacement of the co-ordinates of the center-of-gravity of an object, it involves any part of it moving, or it moving about a rotational axis.
Well if I were to put a perfect sphere on the table in front of you, have you study it, hide it, rotate it, and then show it to you again and ask you if it had moved you'd be unable to give me an honest answer. However if I physically moved (noticed the word used) the sphere three inches to the left, you most likely would be able to tell me it was moved.
Also, I said nothing about a center of gravity. In the case of the Sixaxis its origin will most likely be at the point that lies closest to the center of where it is gripped by both hands, which may or may not be its center of gravity.
Once again, fucking retarded, as changes of orientation are - by definition - movement.
To loosely quote a favorite philosopher of mine, "Who's definition, joker? Yours or mine?"
How else does the videogame respond with movement when you change the rotation of the device?
I don't understand this question as phrased. Following my best attempt to understand, this is my answer: A programmer can map any input to any action in a game he or she so chooses. If somehow I could measure the rate of flatulence being expelled from a player I could easily map that to forward movement in a game. So mapping rotation to movement is not at all difficult. In face, Rayman Raving Rabbids does that in several minigames: mapping tilting the controller to moving a character on the screen.
Maxim: People cannot follow directions.
Increases in truth directly with the length of time spent explaining them
I actually saw a few PS3's in stores last weekend (20 gig units) that people didn't seem to eager to buy (one was in target for at least 6 hours). On the other hand i have yet to see a wii in a store.
I thought about getting the ps3 but it felt silly to get it for just one game i'm sure i'll get one next year
Unless ur playing on the PSP that is...where load times rival the time it takes for your grandma to get to her walker.
Wouldn't that imply that exactly as many people are trading their Wiis for PS3s?
sic transit gloria mundi
Now I'll wait until the strongly rumored January price drop and their appearance in stores.
There is no strongly rumored January price drop, there isn't even a weakly rumored January price drop. There is only a, "one guy said on Slashdot that he thinks there will be a January" price drop.
There will be no price drop. There is no reason for a price drop. Demand still outweighs supply, why on Earth would anyone even consider a price drop?
Best pants-shitting post ever.
My God sir, that was legendary. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying and my co-workers probably think I'm drunk. Three cheers for the master of the poop story.
I don't wanna burst your bubble but.. for every guy swapping his PS3 for a Wii, there has to be one swapping his Wii for a PS3
So I called Circuit City from the parking lot the other day. One of the floor reps had just given me that "I don't have any in stock... right now and I certaintainly haven't seen any in back but if you want a wii, try calling the switchbaord."
So I did. The poor operator (I think they may have been screwing with her) was really frazzled. I said I was calling about the Wii, and she said really sharply "We don't have any", will you have some soon? "I can't say." If I wanted to get one, is there a special key word? "No, we don't have any! No Wii's!!" Okay... well.. what about the PS3? >pause
Hmm?
They got 10 in, I was number 14 on the list.. bleh.
-GiH
1. I've noticed that the stores haven't had much of a problem selling their systems. Those having problems selling the systems have already purchased them and are trying to RESELL them online for a higher price. (READ: People aren't willing to pay $2K/system anymore.) Fact is that nearly every retailer (if not all) is sold out of the product, meaning that Sony has already made 100% of their profits from the sales. Selling 100% of your output is not considered a failure.
2. Those wishing to resell their systems and are unsuccessful merely need to keep their receipt and return the product to the store within 30 days for a full refund. I've watched some of the local stores very closely just out of curiosity, and there has only been a total of 1 return since launch. The system was immediately sold to a very grateful gentleman who had a preorder. Even the employees weren't able to get their hands on a system.
3. If a person buys an expensive product without first checking out the product and the competition, he deserves what he gets. With so many display units available to try in stores, there's no way that the person doing the buying wouldn't know what he was getting.
4. Thanks to frequent shipments, the Wii is not hard to find if you want one badly enough. I saw two in a Wal-Mart display case last week. Considering that the Christmas rush is now over, one only has to wait until the next shipment. I doubt seriously that someone is deperate enough to get their hands on a Wii that they would take such a hit.
If such a person exists who would do what the article is suggesting that they are doing, that person is the reason why my can of peanuts has a warning label reading, "Contains nuts."
I realize that I'm not conforming to the usual Sony-bashing that has become so popular on Slashdot, but I'm not seeing much of the doomsday for Sony that's being predicted here. I'll probably pay in karma. I admit that the PS3 is overpriced and that it neglects the main purpose of the product in an effort to produce an entertainment system instead of a gaming system. I will probably get a Wii sooner because of the price alone. But I won't be purchasing either system at least until after the first markdown, and I will most likely buy a used system. I just don't have a good enough reason to buy a system or game at launch. I can wait. But I'll probably buy a PS3 in addition to my Wii because I like the games from the PS1 and the PS2, and I will probably like the games that come out for the PS3. Better yet, I don't have to pay a second time to play those PS1 & PS2 games on the PS3, unlike the Wii, where I have to pay again to play those nostalgic favorites that I bought for the NES when I was much younger.
I don't see how anyone can draw any conclusions about the Console Wars at this point in time. We'll all know a lot more in a year or so when the new systems have more extensive software libraries available. As much as Sony deserves bashing, the PS3 will probably look a lot better when it's *Killer Apps* are avaiable - same for the Wii. And the 360 has Halo 3 coming. Just like in the past, this thing will be won by the system with the best gaming lineup. And it's a bit premature to conclude who that will be right now.
-G
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I'm not saying it's likely this happened, but wouldn't this make the most brilliant viral marketing ploy? Nintendo hires willing shills across the country, providing each with a pre-bought PS3, with instructions to publicly sell said units for Wiis. Everybody wins... except Sony. Bravo, Nintendo :)
Yes, to be fair, the "GigaGamez" site the original article comes from is a little bit Wii-biased. Not a lot, but at a minimum their least favorite system is the PS3 if you just pass over the past few months' articles. They seem to have some love for the Xbox 360 though.
So... it is newsworthy that anyone would trade a hard-won PS3 for a Wii if you think only of effort and cost - I'll give you that - but the article is exaggerating a little.
... people want the Wii because the PS3s best game is Resistance: Fall of Man. This, of course, forget that there are plenty of cool PS3 games on the way ...
How does this guy get a free review console when it seems he has a problem writing ?
Regards, Lex
Nice repost of email spam - you may now fuck off, and I hope your dog dies hillbilly cocksucker. Enjoy your next Nascar event.
are you by any chance a regular visitor of /b/ ?
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So what are you saying?
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You've got it all wrong -- that episode was from what your daughter has been doing to HIM.
At least she's happy.
You were "foed" because you consider normal to queue in the cold to reserve a gaming console.
No disrispect, but I asume the guy that foed you only befriends functional adults that can wait to buy something when it is available via the normal channels and that consider such unnecessary artificial shortages an insult to costumres.
But I am guessing here only.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
But you are being espectacularly dumb.
Just check how long dinosaurs ruled the planet and how long mammals have being around, specially hominids, and if you want to be really humbled, check how long homo sapiens has been around.
When mammals and we humans get anywhere close to what dinosaurs got on this planet, then we may start the jibes, before that we should be fearful that we may not do as well as such magnificent beasts did.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
So you are just saying the PS3 isn't there yet?
Thanks for making that awfully clear.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Curse you for making me crack up laughing at work!
"There's also speculation that people want the Wii because the PS3s best game is Resistance: Fall of Man. This, of course, forget that there are plenty of cool PS3 games on the way,"
If "plenty of cool PS3 games" are coming later, wouldn't it make more sense to buy the PS3 later? The (crazy) people who got themselves a PS3 this Christmas wanted instant gratification, or else they wouldn't have spent all that money on eBay to begin with. They're not going to take kindly to waiting for things that are "on the way."
"and the PS3 has its own motion sensing technology, which, while not as good as the Wii, is still pretty cool and opens up Sony to emulate some of the Wii's successes.'"
SIXAXIS: almost as good for twice the price!
Now addressing each of your points:
1.) Selling out of product when you're DELIBERATELY RESTRICTING SUPPLY is not demand either. Wii is already well on its way to 1 million units. ps3 still hasn't sold 400,000 units (and most "sales" were eBay scalpers, not people who wanted to PLAY with the ps3).
2. The numbers say otherwise. Most ps3s are either returned, unopened, or traded for Wiis. The facts say that ps3s are easier to get. Sorry, but watching the Sony store doesn't count as research.
3. Actually, you (and Sony) better pray they don't try the Demo Boxes in the stores -- they freeze up. I've yet to see an unfrozen ps3 demo display.
4. Once again, it comes down to Sony restricting supply, not actual demand. Sony made 400,000 units, and they sell out immediately. Wii has about a million units, and you can find a few here and there. You do the math.
But when ps3 goes Dreamcast on ya, you can talk about its obvious superiority.
so i could kick them
but i guess we're both out of luck
Fine, but consider the fact that this is with LESS than a million consoles sold, and within a month and a half of launch. It isn't just having consoles on the self that has people thinking that Sony is going to lose massively. It's the people who can't tell the difference between 360 and ps3 (85% of us without hidef), and scores of others who've been impressed with the Wii and can barely manage a "meh" for the ps3. Maybe because most manufacturers aren't planing ps3 exclusives anymore. Maybe it was the fact that Square Enix is so disappointed in ps3 sales that they'd rather release Dragon Quest on the NDS than the ps3.
I challenge the ps3 fanbois to show me one place where ps3 is leading the competition (assuming that, as is true for most people, the consumer doesn't have a hidef tv). Games? Xbox has a whole library of next gen games. Control? Wii has sixaxis kicked to the curb. Price? ps3 $600. Xbox360 $300, Wii $250. Then there's the complete waste of airtime ads -- maybe it would help if people saw the actual graphics instead of the self-solving rubix cube and crying babydoll? Honestly, the fact that they're still selling out baffles me -- there can't be that many rich retarded people out there.