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Oh right , so any behaviour thats valid in a server enviroment but perhaps not in a desktop
enviroment should be ditched , right? Get a clue. Not opening a CD drawer may annoy some desktop user but it could SERIOUSLY impact a business if it happened in a server enviroment. ANd frankly I couldn't give a damn if it makes it as a desktop OS. If I wanted some all single & dancing user friendly piece of fluff I'd used MacOS.
God its a pain in the arse. Why does it care what maker of monitor I've got? Why do I have to tell it what damn mouse to use , can't it spot/dev/mouse for itself?? Why doesn't version 4 support my old Matrox card when version 3 supported it fine?? Why is installing any extension libraries about as easy as trying to decipher ancient babylonian while blindfolded and drugged??
I HATE it , wtf can't the config file just consist of screen resolutions I want and thats it?? Why can't it do everything else itself?? I can't be too hard to find out which graphics card is plugged into it... can it?
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And what happens if the person who is opening the CD drawer really has no right to and then completely screws up whatever some other user(s) are doing. Remember Linux/unix is a MULTIUSER system , its not single user like Windows. Ejecting the CD is not necessarily the brightest thing to do in all circumstances and shory of endowing the machine with AI how is it supposed to know which action is appropriate?
Calling it "dubbing" is being kind. They don't even bother to lypsynch , they just read a translation of the script over the top of the soundtrack at roughly the same time that the characters speak. The funny thing is they still leave the *original* soundtrack underneath so you can occasionally hear the english (or whatever language) being spoken.
Actually there are some good fil;ms from russia , but they're in russian so your average yank isn't going to go see them. Just because foreign films don't get released in Hicksville USA doesn't mean they're not being made or doing well in their own countries. Stop being so insular.
For complex operations and uses I'd agree , but if you're just doing simple calculations (+, - etc, maybe a bit of trig) and don't need anything more , why spend $500 on a PDA plus god knows how much on maths software when you can go spend $10 on a cheap casio calculator?
Actually I think its more a case of you having a complete lack of any broadcasting knowledge. You use one of these things the other side of a wall to your neighbour who is listening to a radio station on a nearby frequency and you'll screw his reception badly because. Laws exist to make everyones lives easier , just because you can't use your Geek-Gadget-Of-The-Week (tm) thats too bad.
Yeah , ha hah ha , that'd be REAL funny. Yeah , just piss off those neighbours and spoil what they're listening to cos its like... real funny,
huh huh huh.
Christ , get up to date, that was back in the 60s! These days you just get teenagers and other retards broadcasting from the top of a tower block with a directional microwave link to the studio so they're harder to track down by the police.
Most worms spread because they use VB script or a subset thereof and because most ignorant home
users use windows. If you want it to work on most systems in the internet it will have to run on
multiple OSs and multiple architectures. No such cross platform toehold exists because even if you exploit a buffer overflow in a cross platform VM such as Java your overflow exploit with be CPU and probably OS specific unless you code in every possible exploit. In which case your worm will have to know about X86 , Sparce , MIPS , PowerPS , RS6000 and god knows how many other machine codes. As for the high level scripting route only javascript is portable across all platforms and that has so little power you couldn't write anything harmful in it.
Luvvies always blame something else for screwing up their lives. I could understand it if she
was playing the role over and over again day after day , for instance if she was in a theatre play on every night, but it was a small part (scenes wise) in a TV show. She probably didn't do more than a few hours work a week on it so how she could have got into the role THAT deep beats me. More likely it sounds better than saying she had a drink/drugs/food problem etc etc.
My god , have you seen what the actress who played her looks like now? I won't be so rude as to say what I think she looks like now , suffice to say she won't be winning any beauty prizes these days and if I were her I'd get
my money back from the plastic surgeon!
But unlike Blakes 7 they actually had decent some special effects in Space 1999! For the time (mid 70s) some of the space scenes weren't far off being cutting edge and not too far behind the effects in the original star wars. Shame they couldn't have extended the budget to the monster costumes though , they sucked!
If US cars hadn't been such utter garbage (mostly due to - and I'm sorry to say it - lazy over unionised workers) then more people would have bought them. Detroit only has itself to blame for producing 3 decades of crap and you
can't realistically expect people to have bought that rubbish to save the jobs of guys who would strike if there was the wrong color toilet paper in the bathrooms!
"By 1955, people will be flying at supersonic speeds in sleek aircraft and traveling coast to coast in just a few hours."
Well actually for normal people that didn't happen until the 70s - Concorde. And after
October they won't be able to do it anymore ironically because of economic reasons so frankly he couldn't have picked a worse analogy.
We hear this Futurama crud all the time from people with starry eyed techno-vision , yeah
they may come tru e, they may not but I can promise you one thing - any technology that makes half a country jobless (without any replacement jobs to give them) will face social unrest the like of which has never been seen
and will make the actions of the Luddites look like a scuffle in a playground in comparison. If technology companies want to persue the profit motive to its logical conclusion then thats up to them , but they must accept the fact that it may lead to a breakdown of society and hence to their own companys total collapse.
"it's the way some broken (read Microsoft) compilers *don't* follow the standards and lay their"
I didn't know about that but it doesn't surprise me. However , just because one company doesn't
comply with a standard doesn't mean that it shouldn't be used. After all , MS don't follow the telnet RFCs to the letter but we still use it.
"Your inability to see the value in losing a little performace to gain a lot of compatibilty is showing who the real clueless person in this thread is. It's all about the right tool for the right job. XML is not meant for low level networking or for high speed transfers, or for low footprint data storage"
And I agree with you entirely, but you seem to have forgotten that the original story was
called "Using XML in Performance Sensensitive Apps" in this case the guy was talking about using it in a 1000 per sec concurrent request system which IMO is crazy. Sure if you want to pass across some large data file in a
one off transfer or maybe send a few packets a second I would have no issues with using XML , but using it for some high throughput quick response system is just folly.
Oh for gods sake , as I've pointed out to someone else , go check out the htons() , ntohs(), htonl() and ntohl() functions
for solving endian issues. Ordering of struct members?? In the C standard it states that all members MUST be laid out in memory in the order they're defined in the C code. Otherwise half of the unix networking code would fail!
Alignment is a non issue when passing data from one machine to another.
No doubt you've read about all these terms in some book and think you're being smart but all
you've done is prove my point about high level coders being clueless.
Perl - optimised... nah sorry , those 2 words just don't go together in my mind.
Replace "Optimisation" with "Obfuscation" and I'm with you all the way!
You seem to not understand how small utilities are used in unix. They are generally NOT used
as standalone programs , but rather put in scripts or pipes and called in sequence or
frequently over and over again in a single script. The one thing you do NOT want when doing something like this is having the overhead (and time wasting) of kicking off a
large interpreter process (Perl aint a lightweight) FOR EVERY LITTLE UTILITY.
Anyone who suggests this is the way to go really needs to get a clue.
"operating systems need less C programming, not more"
Funnily enough I frequently here this from scripting language "programmers" , I hardly ever hear it from programmers who can do both scripting AND low level C/C++ coding. I wonder why....
"Additionally, this approach brings in endian ordering issues. I doubt the int representation in a struct is the same accross PPC, x86, and big iron. Likely COBOL mandates a byte ordering"
When you have time to tear yourself away from your Dummies Guide To Markup Languages I suggest you go check out the man pages/help files on the htons(), ntohs(), htonl()& ntohl() C functions.
Throw out security? Wtf are you talking about?? Anything can be encrypted if thats what you want. Do you think ssh uses XML?? Don't be fuckwit, go get a clue and if you manage to find one then get back to me.
In a protocol designed for efficiency you shouldn't have to parse anything at all!
If some binary protocol was used you'd would for example use 1 char to represent the field types another to represent the record types and so forth. If you put all this into a packet that can be DIRECTLY mapped on a C structure you'll save god knows how many cycles. I like the way you say you just have to recognise tags. Have you any idea of the amount of processing involved in even simple regexp matching?? This is the problem when high level coders try to design low level systems, they simply don't have a clue how things really work and assume that the high level procedures/objects that they work with are some sort of magic that "just happens" and you can use them everywhere with no performance degradation.
The air be at -60C but since they'll be so little of it it won't remove much heat from a liquid so any liquid would keep at its current temperature for much longer than if on the ground. That of course is if it didn't boil away.
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Oh right , so any behaviour thats valid in a server enviroment but perhaps not in a desktop
enviroment should be ditched , right? Get a clue. Not opening a CD drawer may annoy some desktop
user but it could SERIOUSLY impact a business if it happened in a server enviroment. ANd frankly I couldn't give a damn if it makes it
as a desktop OS. If I wanted some all single & dancing user friendly piece of fluff I'd used MacOS.
God its a pain in the arse. Why does it care what maker of monitor I've got? Why do I have to tell it /dev/mouse for itself?? Why doesn't version 4 support my old Matrox card when version 3
... can it?
what damn mouse to use , can't it spot
supported it fine?? Why is installing any extension libraries about as easy as trying to decipher ancient babylonian
while blindfolded and drugged??
I HATE it , wtf can't the config file just consist of screen resolutions I want and thats it??
Why can't it do everything else itself?? I can't be too hard to find out which graphics card is plugged into it
And what happens if the person who is opening the CD drawer really has no right to and then completely
screws up whatever some other user(s) are doing. Remember Linux/unix is a MULTIUSER system , its not single user like Windows. Ejecting the
CD is not necessarily the brightest thing to do in all circumstances and shory of endowing the machine with AI how is it supposed to know
which action is appropriate?
Calling it "dubbing" is being kind. They don't even bother to lypsynch , they just read a
translation of the script over the top of the soundtrack at roughly the same time that the
characters speak. The funny thing is they still leave the *original* soundtrack underneath so
you can occasionally hear the english (or whatever language) being spoken.
Actually there are some good fil;ms from russia , but they're in russian so your average yank isn't
going to go see them. Just because foreign films don't get released in Hicksville USA doesn't mean they're not being made or doing well in their own countries.
Stop being so insular.
For complex operations and uses I'd agree , but if you're just doing simple calculations (+, - etc, maybe a bit of trig)
and don't need anything more , why spend $500 on a PDA plus god knows how much on maths software when you can go spend $10 on a cheap casio calculator?
Actually I think its more a case of you having a complete lack of any broadcasting knowledge. You
use one of these things the other side of a wall to your neighbour who is listening to a radio station on a
nearby frequency and you'll screw his reception badly because.
Laws exist to make everyones lives easier , just because you can't use your Geek-Gadget-Of-The-Week (tm) thats too bad.
Yeah , ha hah ha , that'd be REAL funny. Yeah , just piss off those neighbours and spoil what ... real funny,
huh huh huh.
they're listening to cos its like
Grow up you dumb fuck.
Christ , get up to date, that was back in the 60s!
These days you just get teenagers and other retards broadcasting from the top of a tower block
with a directional microwave link to the studio so they're harder to track down by the police.
OSs were a little bit simpler back in 1988. Thats a bit like saying now that something that
runs on Windows 98 and 2000 is cross platform.
Most worms spread because they use VB script or a subset thereof and because most ignorant home
users use windows. If you want it to work on most systems in the internet it will have to run on
multiple OSs and multiple architectures. No such cross platform toehold exists because even if you
exploit a buffer overflow in a cross platform VM such as Java your overflow exploit with be CPU and probably OS specific unless you code in
every possible exploit. In which case your worm will have to know about X86 , Sparce , MIPS , PowerPS , RS6000 and god knows how many
other machine codes. As for the high level scripting route only javascript is portable across all platforms and that has so little power
you couldn't write anything harmful in it.
Luvvies always blame something else for screwing up their lives. I could understand it if she
was playing the role over and over again day after day , for instance if she was in a theatre
play on every night, but it was a small part (scenes wise) in a TV show. She probably didn't do more than
a few hours work a week on it so how she could have got into the role THAT deep beats me. More likely it sounds better than saying
she had a drink/drugs/food problem etc etc.
"what, no Servalan?"
My god , have you seen what the actress who played her looks like now? I won't be so rude as
to say what I think she looks like now , suffice to say she won't be winning any beauty prizes
these days and if I were her I'd get my money back from the plastic surgeon!
But unlike Blakes 7 they actually had decent some special effects in Space 1999! For the time (mid
70s) some of the space scenes weren't far off being cutting edge and not too far behind
the effects in the original star wars. Shame they couldn't have extended the budget to the monster costumes though , they sucked!
If US cars hadn't been such utter garbage (mostly due to - and I'm sorry to say it - lazy over
unionised workers) then more people would have bought them. Detroit only has itself to blame for producing 3 decades of crap and you
can't realistically expect people to have bought that rubbish to save the jobs of guys who would
strike if there was the wrong color toilet paper in the bathrooms!
"By 1955, people will be flying at supersonic speeds in sleek aircraft and traveling coast to coast in just a few hours."
Well actually for normal people that didn't happen until the 70s - Concorde. And after
October they won't be able to do it anymore ironically because of economic reasons so frankly
he couldn't have picked a worse analogy.
We hear this Futurama crud all the time from people with starry eyed techno-vision , yeah
they may come tru e, they may not but I can promise you one thing - any technology that makes
half a country jobless (without any replacement jobs to give them) will face social unrest the like of which has never been seen
and will make the actions of the Luddites look like a scuffle in a playground in comparison. If
technology companies want to persue the profit motive to its logical conclusion then thats up to them , but
they must accept the fact that it may lead to a breakdown of society and hence to their own companys total collapse.
Just how many more audio codecs do we need??
"it's the way some broken (read Microsoft) compilers *don't* follow the standards and lay their"
I didn't know about that but it doesn't surprise me. However , just because one company doesn't
comply with a standard doesn't mean that it shouldn't be used. After all , MS don't follow the
telnet RFCs to the letter but we still use it.
"Your inability to see the value in losing a little performace to gain a lot of compatibilty is showing who the real clueless person in this thread is. It's all about the right tool for the right job. XML is not meant for low level networking or for high speed transfers, or for low footprint data storage"
And I agree with you entirely, but you seem to have forgotten that the original story was
called "Using XML in Performance Sensensitive Apps" in this case the guy was talking about using
it in a 1000 per sec concurrent request system which IMO is crazy. Sure if you want to pass across some large data file in a
one off transfer or maybe send a few packets a second I would have no issues with using XML , but
using it for some high throughput quick response system is just folly.
Oh for gods sake , as I've pointed out to someone else , go check out the htons() , ntohs(), htonl() and ntohl() functions
for solving endian issues. Ordering of struct members?? In the C standard it states that all members MUST be laid
out in memory in the order they're defined in the C code. Otherwise half of the unix networking code would fail!
Alignment is a non issue when passing data from one machine to another.
No doubt you've read about all these terms in some book and think you're being smart but all
you've done is prove my point about high level coders being clueless.
Perl - optimised ... nah sorry , those 2 words just don't go together in my mind.
Replace "Optimisation" with "Obfuscation" and I'm with you all the way!
You seem to not understand how small utilities are used in unix. They are generally NOT used
as standalone programs , but rather put in scripts or pipes and called in sequence or
frequently over and over again in a single script. The one thing you do NOT want when doing
something like this is having the overhead (and time wasting) of kicking off a large interpreter process (Perl aint a
lightweight) FOR EVERY LITTLE UTILITY. Anyone who suggests this is the way to go really needs to get a clue.
"operating systems need less C programming, not more"
Funnily enough I frequently here this from scripting language "programmers" , I hardly ever hear it
from programmers who can do both scripting AND low level C/C++ coding. I wonder why....
"Additionally, this approach brings in endian ordering issues. I doubt the int representation
in a struct is the same accross PPC, x86, and big iron. Likely COBOL mandates a byte ordering"
When you have time to tear yourself away from your Dummies Guide To Markup Languages I suggest
you go check out the man pages/help files on the htons(), ntohs(), htonl()& ntohl() C functions.
Throw out security? Wtf are you talking about?? Anything can be encrypted if thats what you want.
Do you think ssh uses XML?? Don't be fuckwit, go get a clue and if you manage to find one then get back to me.
In a protocol designed for efficiency you shouldn't have to parse anything at all!
If some binary protocol was used you'd would for example use 1 char to represent the field types
another to represent the record types and so forth. If you put all this into a packet that can be DIRECTLY mapped on a C structure you'll
save god knows how many cycles. I like the way you say you just have to recognise tags. Have you any idea of the amount of
processing involved in even simple regexp matching?? This is the problem when high level coders try to design low level
systems, they simply don't have a clue how things really work and assume that the high level procedures/objects that they work with
are some sort of magic that "just happens" and you can use them everywhere with no performance degradation.
You figure it out you halfwit.
The air be at -60C but since they'll be so little of it it won't remove much heat from a liquid so
any liquid would keep at its current temperature for much longer than if on the ground. That of course is if it didn't boil away.