You're not taking the meaning of monopoly to heart, a 65-70 percent hold on a market, while the controlling interest, is not a monopoly.
Being "on top" does not mean having absolute control.
Companies that attempt such tactics while not in complete control would be commiting suicide. It would not stiffle the market, it would split it. Coke/Pepsi machines and fountains anyone?
You would end up with many companies that are unwilling to be bullied and a line would be drawn where companies are on the two sides.
Do you think companies like Wal-Mart are good things to piss off? Major retailers are a good source of sales, you don't risk alienating your income.
If Sony were actually near a monopoly state, say, 90 percent, then I would agree with you that they are near a monopoly. But that will not happen, at least not in North America, because Microsoft has a monopoly elsewhere to funnel great heaping wads of cash into the market and take a piece of it.
Their music holdings? No, there are competitors there which show reasonable sucess.
Maybe their film interests? Nope again, there seem to be quite a few film production companies that are not owned by Sony.
If it there were something else where they came close, it would have to be the console market, yet they still have competitors there too.
Just because a company is rich and powerful does not make them monopolists.
A monopoly is everything being controlled by one thing in a set market (it even says so in the word), Microsoft has been tried and convicted of this in a court, while I do not see that having happened in Sony's case.
While it is true that open sourcing something doesn't necessarily help with security issues simply by being open, it does give a better chance of finding those issues in a timely manner.
Now, I'm not saying that hackers will go and start fixing open source drivers just cause they're there, some will, but it is not something to count on. I am saying that crackers will go into that code and find the problems and start using them.
Once the bad guys see how something works exactly they can set up exploits much more rapidly - causing the code's maintainers and architects to fix these flaws both minor and major.
Do you not think that if drivers were open sourced we'd see a much more rapid developement of exploits and subsequent fixes?
This increased rate of reaction would in the end lead to a more mature and secure driver set; although for a time it would likely be hell for system administrators and home users.
That said, no, Sirius is not available outside the mainland United States.
Would you also not want to pay for your cable television because you cannot watch it when on another continent? This is a service, not a feature - you would have to subscribe to have access to Sirius Satellite Radio.
But this could all be easily understood already if you bothered to read in the first place.
It is not "proprietary" jackoff, it's "copyrighted", what is wrong between your chair and keyboard?
There is nothing wrong with specifically warning people against just trusting the Internet, if you download a.iso claiming to be a OpenBSD 3.7 installer there is a chance that it is not, or that someone has modified it. Therefore OpenBSD does not tell you to go out and download something that you cannot read the source for, that what they sell is what they know is trustworthy.
There is nothing wrong with specifically copyrighting a disk you make and saying other people cannot copy it - Theo de Raadt has never said that copyright was a bad thing, quite the opposite, he has been very procopyright. Theo has long been a supporter of people to use whatever license they like, using copyright law to best suit their needs and desires.
Theo does not stand for the same thing as Richard Stallman, for Theo there is no blurring involved. Your twisted view of things perceives one because you buy into the Free Software Foundation's rhetoric.
Yes, it is infact illegal to copy something that is copyrighted without first obtaining permission.
Damn, it had been in ports at one time, I guess it's been too long since I cared enough to look for it, I never really changed much for the defaults on the system anyways.
lighttpd wouldn't be what most people are looking for when Apache 1 isn't good enough, which is stuff that runs Apache 2 modules. Though lighttpd should be good enough for most people.
How exactly do you uninstall an operating system? I've never seen that option before.
Notepad is a Windows programme, if you want Windows you should try running Windows.
And of course, Windows doesn't have crashes either.
I'll admit it, I'd not read this troll before, but it's not funny or even very well done. How long as OpenBSD 3.7 been out? Two days you say? So how many days is a "few" then?
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If you need Apache 2, grab it, it's in ports.
Ports are often behind the most recent releases of things, which is kinda bothersome, but if you want to fix that then get involved and start talking on the ports mailing list. Take over the unmanaged ones and add your own.
That's the best part about a system like this, if you want to, you can change things.
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I am pretty sure when 3.7 was released 3.5 stopped being supported.
That's a year's span, as each release is a half a year apart.
And mine here was that you are viewing the word fucker in a different way than I am, you think of it as something more significant than jackass or git.
It's no overreaction on my part, I assure you, Scott was making a royal cock of himself on the mailing lists and forums (OSNews) talking about how wrong OpenBSD was and how this was ruining it for everyone else.
You were instantly dismissing points made because you don't appear to like potty language.
No, I said he thinks of OpenBSD users and developers as a bunch of fuckers - there is a difference.
I could call someone a whiney fucker or simply think of them as such and tell them they are an overly demanding person which needs to learn the proper form in discussions.
To me those two things are equals, though one a more crude manner of description.
Your gross overreaction over what are these days rather common words seem odd to me.
Anyways, feel free to view things as you will, I really don't mind - but do try not to dismiss one person being an ass because you don't like it when someone calls them one in language you would prefer not read.
How is it trolling when the man went to an OpenBSD talk at BSDCan about their recent wireless work only to tell them all that what they were doing was illegal and immoral as far as he was concerned?
Reports say that despite being told that that was not how OpenBSD developers view the situation he was unwilling to shut up about it until he was eventually told off by the crowd, which wanted to ask actual questions of Reyk.
Not only that, but Paul-Henning has been comparing OpenBSD developers to terrorists. Hardly a troll, more of an astute observation of one of several disgruntled FreeBSD developers making asses of themselves. The man went there trolling.
Scott's reaction to OpenBSD's call for it's users and other concerned Adaptec customers to voice their opinion about documentation is the major basis for my comment.
He said that what Theo was doing was wrong and that the closed source CLI he made was perfectly fine - that things like Theo's little crusade hurt all BSDs further hopes of companies cooperating with them.
The shouting and the threats and all the other tripe reflect poorly on everyone, whether you choose to see it or not, and _that's_ what I oppose in Theo, not his passion for openness.
--Scott Long, ex-Adaptec worker and FreeBSD developer
He thinks they're asses for following an ass - that a bunch of users who own Adaptec hardware asking that developers of an operating system they use be given documentation instead of just using some SDK that may happen in the future or using a closed couse CLI that they don't want and doesn't do everything they want.
In the end, a good quote, sourced through Rob Payne, to apply to Theo:
"I am a free prince and have as much authority to make war on the whole world as he who has a hundred sail of ships and an army of a hundred thousand men in the field. And this my conscience tells me; that there is no arguing with such sniveling puppies who allow superiors to kick them about the deck at pleasure, and pin their faith upon the pimp of a parson, a squab who neither practices nor believes what he puts upon the chuckle-headed fools he preaches to."
Gaging from past hackathons, ideas are usually thrown around between developers when they arrive and come up with things they want to do, then do them while there.
It isn't that there is no talking, they do go out drinking and hiking and talk while doing so - it's just that they should have a general idea of what they want to do before they head to Calgary anyways.
They're there for seven days and are given a good chance to plan out what they're doing ahead of time, so although new ideas do pop up there, it's not like it's total chaos.
Things like the rewrite of dhcpd came out of those kinds of discussions.
Yup, covered that: if Xbox 360 doesn't have a solid number of good games at release time and isn't able to play Xbox games, they may find people holding back to get a Playstation 3s or Revolutions because of the already present game catalog.
I'm hoping that this thing doesn't end up like the VirtualBoy - Nintendo has said it's trying a lot of new things with this console in snippets around the Internet, they may go too far with the strange "features".
It is good to maintain backward compatibility, Nintendo will have an easier time getting people that own a GameCube to buy their new console - just as Sony had an easier time getting people who owned the Playstation to buy the Playstation 2. This will give them an easier time with launching this new system.
Not only that, but as the new console generation pops up starting this Christmas, people will take into account which system has the most enjoyable games - if Xbox 360 doesn't have a solid number of good games at release time and isn't able to play Xbox games, they may find people holding back to get a Playstation 3s or Revolutions because of the already present game catalog.
I'm rooting for Nintendo, they've had some extremely fun games on the GameCube with a massively higher ratio of good games to bad when put alongside the Xbox or Playstation 2. The Mario sports games have all been excellent and enjoyable, rather than a pretty simulation of the sport like the EA and Sega sports titles carried by the competition.
It does seem wrong to allow for an anonymous developer as NetBSD has, Mike Parker sounds much better than der Mouse.
That they allow this is their choice however, that he is bitter about Theo de Raadt and his OpenBSD project does not warrent that kind of behaviour true, but it is up to NetBSD to choose what they view as proper behavoir within their developer circle.
They made that choice with Theo years ago, maybe with time they will choose to reign Mike in. Mike doesn't seem to be counted amoung the core developers, so it's not exactly the same as the situation with Theo however.
Perhaps this reflects poorly on the level of maturity of the developers on the project, but it is the choice of the developers.
And you cannot base your feelings about someone's programming based on their behaviour, or everyone would hate OpenBSD for Theo being a dick.
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Being "on top" does not mean having absolute control.
Companies that attempt such tactics while not in complete control would be commiting suicide. It would not stiffle the market, it would split it. Coke/Pepsi machines and fountains anyone?
You would end up with many companies that are unwilling to be bullied and a line would be drawn where companies are on the two sides.
Do you think companies like Wal-Mart are good things to piss off? Major retailers are a good source of sales, you don't risk alienating your income.
If Sony were actually near a monopoly state, say, 90 percent, then I would agree with you that they are near a monopoly. But that will not happen, at least not in North America, because Microsoft has a monopoly elsewhere to funnel great heaping wads of cash into the market and take a piece of it.
Their music holdings? No, there are competitors there which show reasonable sucess.
Maybe their film interests? Nope again, there seem to be quite a few film production companies that are not owned by Sony.
If it there were something else where they came close, it would have to be the console market, yet they still have competitors there too.
Just because a company is rich and powerful does not make them monopolists.
A monopoly is everything being controlled by one thing in a set market (it even says so in the word), Microsoft has been tried and convicted of this in a court, while I do not see that having happened in Sony's case.
Perhaps you could enlighten a poor fool?
Now, I'm not saying that hackers will go and start fixing open source drivers just cause they're there, some will, but it is not something to count on. I am saying that crackers will go into that code and find the problems and start using them.
Once the bad guys see how something works exactly they can set up exploits much more rapidly - causing the code's maintainers and architects to fix these flaws both minor and major.
Do you not think that if drivers were open sourced we'd see a much more rapid developement of exploits and subsequent fixes?
This increased rate of reaction would in the end lead to a more mature and secure driver set; although for a time it would likely be hell for system administrators and home users.
If I have an onboard nic does that suddenly make high speed internet a feature for my computer? No, it makes it so I can subscribe to the service.
The feature with this new generation of iPods would be that it works with Sirius Satellite Radio, not that it has it.
That said, no, Sirius is not available outside the mainland United States.
Would you also not want to pay for your cable television because you cannot watch it when on another continent? This is a service, not a feature - you would have to subscribe to have access to Sirius Satellite Radio.
But this could all be easily understood already if you bothered to read in the first place.
But it is not proprietary, it is being sold off. It's is not exclusively owned, it is exclusively copyable.
There is nothing wrong with specifically warning people against just trusting the Internet, if you download a .iso claiming to be a OpenBSD 3.7 installer there is a chance that it is not, or that someone has modified it. Therefore OpenBSD does not tell you to go out and download something that you cannot read the source for, that what they sell is what they know is trustworthy.
There is nothing wrong with specifically copyrighting a disk you make and saying other people cannot copy it - Theo de Raadt has never said that copyright was a bad thing, quite the opposite, he has been very procopyright. Theo has long been a supporter of people to use whatever license they like, using copyright law to best suit their needs and desires.
Theo does not stand for the same thing as Richard Stallman, for Theo there is no blurring involved. Your twisted view of things perceives one because you buy into the Free Software Foundation's rhetoric.
Yes, it is infact illegal to copy something that is copyrighted without first obtaining permission.
You're being a git kid, bug off.
lighttpd wouldn't be what most people are looking for when Apache 1 isn't good enough, which is stuff that runs Apache 2 modules. Though lighttpd should be good enough for most people.
There is a difference, snapshots are not expected to be as stable because they're there for testing purposes.
Notepad is a Windows programme, if you want Windows you should try running Windows.
And of course, Windows doesn't have crashes either.
I'll admit it, I'd not read this troll before, but it's not funny or even very well done. How long as OpenBSD 3.7 been out? Two days you say? So how many days is a "few" then?
Ports are often behind the most recent releases of things, which is kinda bothersome, but if you want to fix that then get involved and start talking on the ports mailing list. Take over the unmanaged ones and add your own.
That's the best part about a system like this, if you want to, you can change things.
That's a year's span, as each release is a half a year apart.
Just make sure you've got the firmware somewhere handy, it doesn't come with the system.
It's no overreaction on my part, I assure you, Scott was making a royal cock of himself on the mailing lists and forums (OSNews) talking about how wrong OpenBSD was and how this was ruining it for everyone else.
You were instantly dismissing points made because you don't appear to like potty language.
Didn't think so.
I could call someone a whiney fucker or simply think of them as such and tell them they are an overly demanding person which needs to learn the proper form in discussions.
To me those two things are equals, though one a more crude manner of description.
Your gross overreaction over what are these days rather common words seem odd to me.
Anyways, feel free to view things as you will, I really don't mind - but do try not to dismiss one person being an ass because you don't like it when someone calls them one in language you would prefer not read.
Reports say that despite being told that that was not how OpenBSD developers view the situation he was unwilling to shut up about it until he was eventually told off by the crowd, which wanted to ask actual questions of Reyk.
Not only that, but Paul-Henning has been comparing OpenBSD developers to terrorists. Hardly a troll, more of an astute observation of one of several disgruntled FreeBSD developers making asses of themselves. The man went there trolling.
He said that what Theo was doing was wrong and that the closed source CLI he made was perfectly fine - that things like Theo's little crusade hurt all BSDs further hopes of companies cooperating with them.
He thinks they're asses for following an ass - that a bunch of users who own Adaptec hardware asking that developers of an operating system they use be given documentation instead of just using some SDK that may happen in the future or using a closed couse CLI that they don't want and doesn't do everything they want.
In the end, a good quote, sourced through Rob Payne, to apply to Theo:
aac was disabled, it is no longer supported by GENERIC (and thus OpenBSD).
Adaptec says they'll have their SDK out some time soon, which is still not what the OpenBSD people were asking for.
Scott Long thinks OpenBSD developers and users are a bunch of fuckers.
It isn't that there is no talking, they do go out drinking and hiking and talk while doing so - it's just that they should have a general idea of what they want to do before they head to Calgary anyways.
They're there for seven days and are given a good chance to plan out what they're doing ahead of time, so although new ideas do pop up there, it's not like it's total chaos.
Things like the rewrite of dhcpd came out of those kinds of discussions.
Yup, covered that: if Xbox 360 doesn't have a solid number of good games at release time and isn't able to play Xbox games, they may find people holding back to get a Playstation 3s or Revolutions because of the already present game catalog.
It is good to maintain backward compatibility, Nintendo will have an easier time getting people that own a GameCube to buy their new console - just as Sony had an easier time getting people who owned the Playstation to buy the Playstation 2. This will give them an easier time with launching this new system.
Not only that, but as the new console generation pops up starting this Christmas, people will take into account which system has the most enjoyable games - if Xbox 360 doesn't have a solid number of good games at release time and isn't able to play Xbox games, they may find people holding back to get a Playstation 3s or Revolutions because of the already present game catalog.
I'm rooting for Nintendo, they've had some extremely fun games on the GameCube with a massively higher ratio of good games to bad when put alongside the Xbox or Playstation 2. The Mario sports games have all been excellent and enjoyable, rather than a pretty simulation of the sport like the EA and Sega sports titles carried by the competition.
With out the random highlights it just doesn't read like he says it.
Well, you could also use FreeBSD, it's got spamd in their ports.
It does seem wrong to allow for an anonymous developer as NetBSD has, Mike Parker sounds much better than der Mouse.
That they allow this is their choice however, that he is bitter about Theo de Raadt and his OpenBSD project does not warrent that kind of behaviour true, but it is up to NetBSD to choose what they view as proper behavoir within their developer circle.
They made that choice with Theo years ago, maybe with time they will choose to reign Mike in. Mike doesn't seem to be counted amoung the core developers, so it's not exactly the same as the situation with Theo however.
Perhaps this reflects poorly on the level of maturity of the developers on the project, but it is the choice of the developers.
And you cannot base your feelings about someone's programming based on their behaviour, or everyone would hate OpenBSD for Theo being a dick.