It's worse than that. When the backlight on the flatscreen goes out the car can't be driven. Backlights go out on panels all the time. In a few years the battery capacity will have diminished significantly and it will cost more to replace the battery than the car will be worth on the resale market.
1. Display panel backlights are almost certainly LED and will probably last longer than the batteries.
2. Those lithium cells in Tesla cars have been keeping charge capacity *significantly* longer than originally estimated.
So assuming the low-end cost of $3 per ton of CO2, we're talking a mere $3,030,000,000,000 to mitigate anthropogenic CO2 emissions
Sounds like just the type of pragmatic negative emissions technology we so desperately need!
Until you can quantify the costs of *not* mitigating anthropogenic CO2 emissions or identify the value of this method relative to that of other mitigation techniques it is impossible to gage the absolute value of this particular method.
(Re)read the article, particularly the fifth paragraph:
For example, one method uses special membrane filters to separate the hydrogen and hydroxide ions produced during electrolysis. Adding the hydroxide to water allows it to take up CO2 from the air, turning it into bicarbonate. If the hydrogen ions weren't separated, they'd push the chemical equilibrium away from bicarbonate and toward dissolved CO2. But when powdered carbonate rock is added, it can react with the dissolved (atmospheric) CO2 to produce a bunch of happy, stable bicarbonate. Combined, these reactions allow people to tune the hydrogen production and carbonate formation.
The CO2 is not being dissolved into the water to form carbonic acid, it is being added to hydroxide ions produced by electrolysis to form soluble alkaline bicarbonates.
I was specifically talking about beer, having missed the topmost comment about meat. One reason for not using Nitrogen for slaughterhouses (higher suffocation risk for humans) has already been mentioned, plus add to that the fact that compressed Nitrogen gas is generally more expensive than compressed CO2.
>Well, since the air we breathe is something like 85% nitrogen, why not just sub Nitrogen for CO2?
Because CO2 dissolves in water and forms carbonic acid. Nitrogen gas does not dissolve and will quickly dissipate quickly after injection into a solution. This is why nitrogen is added to Guinness at the time it is dispensed...it won't stay in solution, and is the reason you don't buy "nitro brews" in regular growlers.
Correct. The topic is ridiculous and my obviously humorous remark may have confused you.
If you're looking for a serious remark, here goes:
Nobody here has enough deep knowledge about the infinitude of complex software that exists, and its actual level of sophistication, to make a meaningful conclusion. People are free to tell tales of the most sophisticated software they're encountered, but there is no way anyone could know the "most sophisticated piece of software ever written."
Back in the day, every time I spoke to PC manufacturer's reps and asked why they were taking so long to provide support for more RAM, faster processors and wider, faster system busses the standard reply was "Nobody needs more than [fill in current limitation]."
Note that they didn't actually *believe* that, they simply didn't want to admit that their current offering might be lacking.
QI has located the earliest instance of a close match to the saying specified by the questioner. This is the version that is often attributed to Gates today. It appeared in InfoWorld magazine in January 1990 in an article that presented a timeline for the development of the PC industry in the 1980s. The remark ascribed to Gates was placed in quotation marks [BGSF]:
IBM introduces the PC and, with Microsoft, releases DOS (“640K ought to be enough for anyone” — Bill Gates)
"Nobody needs more than 640k of RAM"
~Steve Jobs~
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Nope, that quote is from Bill Gates, not Steve Jobs. It was the IBM PC running MSDOS/PCDOS in regular memory on x86 processors that had that limitation.
Producing a lifelong addiction to the medication is the preferred business model and always has been the "gold standard" for business. Every dealer of illicit drugs knows that fact.
Oops, I forgot to log in before I the last post A.C. post, the one with the link to his webpage describing his organ. Eh, as Sterling Archer would probably say, *phrasing*....
But seriously, Knuth also likes to solve puzzles. I met him at a gathering of puzzlers from the SF Bay Area and didn't even recognize him until someone introduced me to "Don" and it finally clicked. There was some serious brain power in that room....
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It's worse than that. When the backlight on the flatscreen goes out the car can't be driven. Backlights go out on panels all the time. In a few years the battery capacity will have diminished significantly and it will cost more to replace the battery than the car will be worth on the resale market.
1. Display panel backlights are almost certainly LED and will probably last longer than the batteries.
2. Those lithium cells in Tesla cars have been keeping charge capacity *significantly* longer than originally estimated.
When you bind the dissolved carbonic acid to hydroxides produced by electrolysis it neutralizes the acid.
So assuming the low-end cost of $3 per ton of CO2, we're talking a mere $3,030,000,000,000 to mitigate anthropogenic CO2 emissions Sounds like just the type of pragmatic negative emissions technology we so desperately need!
Until you can quantify the costs of *not* mitigating anthropogenic CO2 emissions or identify the value of this method relative to that of other mitigation techniques it is impossible to gage the absolute value of this particular method.
For example, one method uses special membrane filters to separate the hydrogen and hydroxide ions produced during electrolysis. Adding the hydroxide to water allows it to take up CO2 from the air, turning it into bicarbonate. If the hydrogen ions weren't separated, they'd push the chemical equilibrium away from bicarbonate and toward dissolved CO2. But when powdered carbonate rock is added, it can react with the dissolved (atmospheric) CO2 to produce a bunch of happy, stable bicarbonate. Combined, these reactions allow people to tune the hydrogen production and carbonate formation.
The CO2 is not being dissolved into the water to form carbonic acid, it is being added to hydroxide ions produced by electrolysis to form soluble alkaline bicarbonates.
A solution of meat?
I was specifically talking about beer, having missed the topmost comment about meat. One reason for not using Nitrogen for slaughterhouses (higher suffocation risk for humans) has already been mentioned, plus add to that the fact that compressed Nitrogen gas is generally more expensive than compressed CO2.
>Well, since the air we breathe is something like 85% nitrogen, why not just sub Nitrogen for CO2?
Because CO2 dissolves in water and forms carbonic acid. Nitrogen gas does not dissolve and will quickly dissipate quickly after injection into a solution. This is why nitrogen is added to Guinness at the time it is dispensed...it won't stay in solution, and is the reason you don't buy "nitro brews" in regular growlers.
The proper link is here: https://www.reuters.com/articl...
Link takes you to Reuters article "Fox shares pop ahead of expected Comcast bid"
Work makes free, after all, and the US is all about freedom :)
Arbeit macht frei
I prefer to use the original German phrase.
I can collapse all your reasons down to one: Trump told his voters what they wanted to hear, regardless of the truth.
Correct. The topic is ridiculous and my obviously humorous remark may have confused you.
If you're looking for a serious remark, here goes:
Nobody here has enough deep knowledge about the infinitude of complex software that exists, and its actual level of sophistication, to make a meaningful conclusion. People are free to tell tales of the most sophisticated software they're encountered, but there is no way anyone could know the "most sophisticated piece of software ever written."
ur dum
This guy gets it. Kudos.
I never called it good and "Hello world" ain't AIDS.
I called it successful, not sophisticated.
"Hello world"...it's everywhere, it runs on all platforms and has been translated into every major language.
And that is why sales reps are not engineers.
Sadly, sometimes they *are* engineers. A large increase in income will occasionally draw them to the dark side.
Back in the day, every time I spoke to PC manufacturer's reps and asked why they were taking so long to provide support for more RAM, faster processors and wider, faster system busses the standard reply was "Nobody needs more than [fill in current limitation]."
Note that they didn't actually *believe* that, they simply didn't want to admit that their current offering might be lacking.
The quote was probably made well before poster Armonk existed.
"Nobody needs more than 640k of RAM" ~Steve Jobs~ -
Nope, that quote is from Bill Gates, not Steve Jobs. It was the IBM PC running MSDOS/PCDOS in regular memory on x86 processors that had that limitation.
Producing a lifelong addiction to the medication is the preferred business model and always has been the "gold standard" for business. Every dealer of illicit drugs knows that fact.
*big grin*
Can you say "thoughtcrime?"
Oops, I forgot to log in before I the last post A.C. post, the one with the link to his webpage describing his organ. Eh, as Sterling Archer would probably say, *phrasing*....
But seriously, Knuth also likes to solve puzzles. I met him at a gathering of puzzlers from the SF Bay Area and didn't even recognize him until someone introduced me to "Don" and it finally clicked. There was some serious brain power in that room....