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Bill Gates Shares His Memories of Donald Trump (cnn.com)
MSNBC recently published a video of Bill Gates telling his staff at the Gates Foundation that he had two meetings with Donald Trump since the president was elected. In the video, Gates says Trump doesn't know the difference between two sexually transmitted diseases -- human papillomavirus (HPV) and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) -- and that it was "scary" how much Trump knew about Gates' daughter's appearance. Gates also said he urged Trump to support innovation and technology during those meetings. CNN reports: Taking audience questions about his interactions with Trump at a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation meeting, the former Microsoft honcho said he first met Trump in December 2016. He told the audience that Trump had previously come across his daughter, Jennifer, at a horse show in Florida. "And then about 20 minutes later he flew in on a helicopter to the same place," Gates said, according to video of the event broadcast by MSNBC late Thursday. "So clearly he had been driven away but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter. "Anyway, so when I first talked to him, it was actually kind of scary how much he knew about my daughter's appearance. Melinda (Gates' wife) didn't like that too well."
Gates also said he discussed science with Trump on two separate occasions, where he says the President questioned him on the difference between HIV and HPV. "In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody -- I think it was Robert Kennedy Jr. -- was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things. And I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that. "Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other," Gates said.
Gates also said he discussed science with Trump on two separate occasions, where he says the President questioned him on the difference between HIV and HPV. "In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody -- I think it was Robert Kennedy Jr. -- was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things. And I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that. "Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other," Gates said.
He would find Gate's daughter attractive. He openly said he would "do" his own.
Cue old head techie conservatives from the mid-west shouting about how it's actually a good thing that our president is an ignorant moron. You know because H1Bs or some shit.
Did Trump try to grab Jennifer Gate's pussy?
"You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything." - President Donald J. Trump
HPV and HIV. Both viruses. Context matters, but let's not talk about that. I guess we're just here to hear Gates bash Trump because why not.
You know they're sparring now. He bashed Trump. Holy shit. What an asshole Gates is. I can't wait to see them make fun of each other's hair.
Don's bestest buddy in the entire world was McCarthy's attack dog, Ray Cohn, who died of AIDs. As soon as Don found out that Cohn was sick, he dropped him like a live rattlesnake and coincidentally developed a massive case of germophobia. Its probably why he thinks avoiding STDs was his own personal Vietnam.
Don definitely knows the difference between HIV and HPV, he was just trying to wind up Gates because he knows Gates takes public health seriously. Its a relatively common sociopath move - figure out what some cares about and then take plausibly deniable digs at it in order to get them twisted. Source: have a couple of clinically diagnosed sociopaths in the extended family.
Bill Gates should run for president. He's highly intelligent, genuinely cares about people and has so much money that he can't be corrupted. I would absolutely vote for him.
Next you'll be telling us Trump doesn't know the difference between Kerberos and Kubernetes.
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Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him. That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job. Surprised you didn't go with "fake news"... is it because Trump himself admitted that what he calls 'fake news' is simply anything that portrays him in a negative light?
You should probably stop wasting time projecting on Slashdot and get to figuring out where you're going to run to, Skippy.
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I have to wonder if Trump was actually unaware of which groups of people have what opinion about vaccines (regardless of his knowledge about the actual science), which makes me wonder if his repeated questions weren't intended to deliberately make Gates uncomfortable. The word "innovation" coming from MS similarly makes me feel uncomfortable. Perhaps Gates can have someone innovate a way to help his daughter fool digital photography. Maybe strong IR emitters in the cloths coupled with IR reflecting particles in makeup or CNC face painting that subtly gives the impression of bone structure that isn't there.
I guess we can envision Jennifer Gates in full bondage gear now. Way to go, Dad.
Oh FFS, get a clue. MicroSoft is one of the largest contributors to open source software and even Bill Gates sings its praises now.
You should be thankful your daughter is worth remembering, and didn't come out looking like a spitting image of her dorkshit nerd father.
Remember how you cringed like a bitch? when you got smacked with that pie? I do. Me and Peprich Fahms recall how you curled and winced like a fucking weenie, and the gorillas around you stepped up to protect the frail William Scrupulous Gates.
We get it. It's hip to shade on Donald because he's a big dum-dum and the chances are small you could upset anyone of significance (except Donald). But really, you should just be very happy and pleased your daughter doesnt look like Chelsea "Gums" Clinton, whose features are memorable for all the wrong reasons.
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All he needs to do is to not bush the 'button'
Fast-forward a couple of years.... You had one job. ONE FUCKING JOB!
I think rule by wealth ("has so much money that he can't be corrupted") is called "plutocracy," likely even if the plutocrats are "elected."
Bill Gates has kind of a cult of personality among working class Americans who see him as somebody who came up from nothing to become the richest man on earth. For some reason He's not lumped into the "elites" category like Jobs or Bezos. Not sure why, since he grew up wealthy and used his mom's connections to get an in with IBM and his dad's advice to take advantage of it, but go figure.
Anyway, him saying Trump is a bit of a buffoon is going to resonate with Trump voters. It'll be a significant hit to Trump's reputation with his base.
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That doesn't mean MS wasn't also one of the most anti-FOSS companies for decades, that means Linux elbowed its way into existence and Gates saw the writing on the wall like everybody else. Gates sure did NOT help that along.
Of for jebus' sake, windows source code has been all open since ballmer had his sweat glands start gushing that one time. Visual studio pro isnt $50 a month, thats just how open source code works, when you buy it half automagically goes to save wild animals in the former leningrad
We are currently ruled by some of the worst people of our nation.
Why? Because of joy.
"What? Joy?" You may ask. Yes - joy, the emotion of joy - that little element of discovering something that pleases you.
Americans discovered that amongst the boring moments of their lives, and amidst the confusing cycles of our politics, the thing that brought them the most joy, was the crude, often cruel mockery of difference.
It's not quite comedy, in the professional sense - even the most crude professional comedians would find this kind of humor career destroying. See Kathy Griffin to see what happens when one wonders into that territory.
But the conservative movement doesn't really have comedians - instead, they have a unique brand of cruelty that takes the place of open comedy.
It's not always about laughing - it's about joy, the joy of knowing how you are treating your enemy, the joy of cruelty, of punishing difference. At all levels, from online sharing, to the highest offices.
This isn't new - there were large amounts of this spread across newspapers in the era of 'yellow journalism' - it's actually kind of shocking to read some of the stuff around the civil war. And we're kind of returning to that state of political cruelty - cruelty ahead of everything else.
And that's what Trump represents more than anything else - cruelty in place of political strategy, cruelty in the guise of comedy, cruelty as the dominant force in a major political party. And cruelty called common sense and wisdom in our popular culture.
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Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him. That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job
To me, the biggest condemnation of Trump is not that he's ill-informed - Lots of people are ill-informed on lots of things - It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed. Obama read for hours each night - Briefing papers, books - You name it. Trump reads nothing.
Find me stories on Slashdot that paint Trump in a positive light. I'll wait...
Trying to figure out what aspect of this story actually merits coverage on Slashdot.
It's the ignorance, stupid!
Kind of hard to tell in Trump's case since he is also quite stupid and has been sheltered and protected from the normal consequences of his stupidity. His father was only the first person to pump in money to cover the losses from Trump's bad decisions.
However I think it is much more significant that Trump doesn't care about what he doesn't know. I insist that Trump regards Bill Gates as admirable, for the money, if nothing else, but Trump still doesn't care enough to listen to him. Any moderately educated person should know the difference between HIV and HPV, but Trump doesn't know and doesn't care. Actually, given Trump's sexual peccadilloes (or perhaps you prefer to describe it as "raging libido"), it would even be normal self-protection to know a LOT about sexually transmitted diseases, but "Trump don't know and Trump don't care."
Not sure of the exact numbers, but there are a lot of proudly ignorant fools in America, and many of them voted for Trump precisely because they felt that Trump's disdainful attitude towards knowing things made him a true representative of their views, the kind of "leader" they wanted to follow. Scare quotes on "leader" because if you're ignorant you can't actually lead since you have no idea where you're going. Normal peasants like you and I would merely fail hard when we stumble blindly into holes, but Trump has always gotten more money to pull him out and hide his failures.
There's another option: Learning from mistakes. I actually think there is a tiny bit of evidence that Trump has learned two things along the way. That's why he doesn't gamble with his own money now. His bankruptcies didn't teach him how to be a better businessman, but they did teach him to take his own cut up front and to make sure the contracts allow him to walk away when projects fail.
Trump has never learned that truth matters.
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âoe That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job. âoe
I have some bad news for you. The vast majority of our elected Presidents are all on equal footing with regards to intelligence and knowledge about the â wide range of issues â you speak of.
The only difference is some of them knew to keep their mouth shut until their â advisors â told them what to say. Trump didâ(TM)t get that memo apparently.
Why the hell do you think pre-selected / screened questions are even a thing ?
âoe That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job. âoe
I have some bad news for you. The vast majority of our elected Presidents are all on par with intelligence and knowledge about the â wide range of issues â you speak of.
The only difference is some of them knew to keep their mouth shut until their â advisors â told them what to say.
Why the hell do you think pre-selected / screened questions are even a thing ?
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Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him. That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job. Surprised you didn't go with "fake news"... is it because Trump himself admitted that what he calls 'fake news' is simply anything that portrays him in a negative light?
Scott Adams has an interesting insight on the two views of Donald Trump: one view has him as stupid and incompetent, and the other one has him as brilliant and capable.
His point being: each of these is a model of reality, so which is the better predictor?
Look at the predictions made about Trump using the "stupid incompetent" model:
Trump will never win the presidency
The economy will tank if Trump wins
Trump will get us into a nuclear war
Trump will start WWIII
End of the world
Numerous Hitler-like situations
There are even specific things that people have said about Trump:
"Every taunt back and forth between Trump and Kim Jong Un maked deescalation and diplomacy less possible" -- Ben Rhodes, via twitter
"Poll: What one thing will work with North Korea? a) Military strike (9%), b) Embargo or blockade (1%) c) A grand bargain w/China (4%) d) Trump has no idea (86%)" -- Bill Kristol, via twitter
So we're scientists here, we know that science works by making models and predicting outcomes, and when we have two models we throw one out and keep the one with the better predictions.
Which model is the better predictor for Trump?
If you still believe in the "stupid and incompetent" model, what future predictions can you make based on that model? And what specific criteria can we agree on to determine when those predictions have failed or succeeded?
Too bad you've got to be at least a little bit scientific literate to understand more than just the headline. According to the paper HIV and HPV are about as related as smoking cigarettes and the common cold. Yes, one can make the other worse by facilitating an infection. But that's simply because it weakens certain parts of your body and not because they're related somehow.
.3% of the US population.
Information from the American CDC states that about 79 million Americans are infected with HPV. Just to put this into perspective that ~24% of the US population.
They also have a number on HIV infections which is 1.1 million in the US, which is like
Just compare these two numbers alone and ask yourself how much linked those diseases can actually be.
I voted for Obama and used to think that was a good thing. But what has it gotten us? Executive overreach, deteriorating race relations, increasing inequality, a stuttering recovery, a missed opportunity on health care reform, political polarization, and foreign policy disasters. And the problem was exactly that Obama was really smart, wanted to do everything himself, and ended up micromanaging. Obama represents the hubris of technocrats, progressives, and intellectuals. And it's Obama's miserable performance as president that paved the way for Trump.
That's right. I'd rather have a well-read, informed and intellectual President with whom I can have a good conversation than an anti-intellectual womanizing loudmouth who brings the country to peace and prosperity by however incomprehensible means. ... is what I believe most educated liberals think these days. Their biggest fear seems to be Trump ending up being right about things because how he gets there does not seem to make sense.
Executive overreach, wrong. Deteriorating race relations = Trump. Increasing inequality = GOP tax focus. Stuttering recovery = you are high. Health care reform occurred DESPITE you. Foreign policy disasters = Bush legacy.
You're a moron. Trump lives in his own asshole, none of this has anything to do with the actual record of the office of the President. Trump will die in prison a traitor.
All of those bad things fanned by Trump and GOP operatives like yourself.
I can see you want to ralk about Obama to change the subject, but doesn't that just show the problem? Fair enough. Obama left the USA as the worlds biggest trading block with a stable economy and lower deficit than now and better healthcare and a dead Bin Laden. Trumps has helped Chniese companies evade a trade war he has created (ZTE) and received over millions in kickbacks so far some of which have gone to pay off hookers and hackers via Cohen.
Except Gates is a lying piece of shit that can't be trusted. Maybe that's a positive attribute for a politician?
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Yes, context does matter. Like, was he blindly pushing an agenda based on the assumption that they were the same thing? TFS suggests that, no, he was simply asking questions.
We should not be berating someone for admitting to their ignorance. Especially when that someone is the President of the United States and has a history of diving head-first into a course of action with everyone around him saying "no, no, that's not how that works".
Of course it is biased against Trump. I searched "trump HIV HPV" the other day and saw pages and pages of coverage, the same article (mostly) smeared across at minimum dozens of news sites. Meanwhile, the ignorant statement by Trump (I'd add "purported", but I feel it is basically impossible for Gates to be making this one up) makes him look REALLY bad.
HPV was linked to cervical cancer in 1984, at which time Trump was 38 and long out of school. HIV was discovered in 1983, about the same time. Someone who has devoted half of his life to fixing diseases, as Gates has done, or pretty much anyone who is less than 50 years old today, of course knows at least a little about what these virii do to harm humans. But I am sure plenty do not.
This is important context, and all these articles leave it out.
Now, as for bias? It is obvious at this point that Gates released this legitimately hilarious factoid about Trump's ignorance with the intention of hurting Trump, and it has been predictably tossed around the media.
Anyway, I think it's funny as fuck that he doesn't know what I'd consider pretty basic shit. But that doesn't mean it is a fair takeaway for his general and specialized knowledge buckets.
Executive overreach, wrong.
True, that already existed - Obama just continued along the path set out by his predecessors.
Deteriorating race relations = Trump.
Hahahahah, no. BLM peaked during the Obama years, where his Department of Justice continued to grind African Americans under its jackboots.
Increasing inequality = GOP tax focus.
So how pricey is your California McMansion? Aww, gonna have to pay your fair share of taxes little guy?
Stuttering recovery = you are high.
That or he actually looks at charts and figures.
Health care reform occurred DESPITE you.
Sure, that's why inequality rose with the exponentially increasing premiums of the ACA. "BUH BUH IT WULD HAV ROSE MOAR!" of course, despite no indications to that effect.
Foreign policy disasters = Bush legacy.
Libya wasn't the Bush legacy; nor was Syria. But half a point, because most of the foreign policy fuckery under Obama was inherited from that shithead.
President. Trump will die in prison a traitor.
The gallows are building as you shitpost. Hope you aren't accepting money for your poutrage.
What's Bill Gates' daughter look like?
It's not OK for anyone in a position of authority to be that stupid. I want to agree with you, but it's just too much.
I don't see what the "insightful" mod was for, though the mod did get me to look at the troll's comment. Lowest form of lie, Level 0 self-contradiction. Don't need to check anything to know that there's at least one lie there, though the example here was a case of two lies. (The impossible case is multiple true statements that are in contradiction.)
One of the things that is interesting about Trump is that he is a low-level liar. He often contradicts himself, sometimes within the same tweet. He frequently lies at Level 1, counterfactual statements, but any fool can check the facts.
The better liars, such as the lawyers and politicians, are mostly working at Level 2 of partial truth. That depends on knowing the whole truth and picking bits and pieces, but Trump rarely if ever gets that high. The most professional liars at Level 3 are using framing and various other techniques that render the truth itself meaningless. If you actually listen to a pro like Conway or Bannon you wind up wondering if the sky is actually blue or if the sun actually rose yesterday.
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Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him.
What are you talking about? This makes him look smart, not stupid. He's actually asking about a topic that has him confused. That is a good thing! The bias is in TFS's attempt to make it out like it is a bad thing, which it is not.
That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job.
No it's not, it's how he handles that lack of basic knowledge that is the very big problem. But this right here, him asking about it, is the CORRECT approach to that. You would do well to not berate him for that. After all, your whole spiel is about how it's bad for him to lack knowledge. So why are you saying things that would make a person intentionally want to remain ignorant?
I voted for Obama and used to think that was a good thing. But what has it gotten us? Executive overreach,
That one is arguable. He saw the problems of the world and so how impossible it was to work with congress and just did the best he could. Did he overreach a few areas? Probably, but of course nothing compared to the Trump crime family.
"deteriorating race relations"
I think you are confusing cause and effect. Race relations didn't deteriorate, if they did really deteriorate, because of Obama. They deteriorated because of Obama's political opponents used race as a vile weapon to go after him with.
", increasing inequality,"
Been happening for ages. It is not new. Obama did the single most important thing to address it, by taking a stab at health care, and his approach while hardly perfect was "better". It was also all he could get done in that environment.
Yes, there are many other reasons. The absolutely fucking insane tax cut we just put in is going to make income inequality worse, since most of the money goes to those who already make a lot of money. Its also completely irresponsible, but that is another topic. Of course republicans would argue that income inequality in itself isn't bad. I tend to disagree. Past a certain point it distorts things too much and the markets basically fail.
" a stuttering recovery,"
Seems similar to the last one really from what I vaguely recall. There is no magic. People someone expect because something happened in the past under a vastly different set of circumstances that you can expect the same outcomes. Either way, the president doesn't have that much control there. The economy did well under Obama and I see no particularly sign that it will be magical under Trump. We are just feeling the effects of the heroin he pumped in (tax cuts), but the crash and burn will come eventually. The bills must be paid.
" a missed opportunity on health care reform"
Now here is where you are flat out lying. I watched the entire process. They got done what they could get done. It was amazingly close to failing. You think you can do better, maybe you should run for office?
", political polarization,"
Again, your confusing cause and effect here. Obama isn't a particularly polarizing guy. He is actually pretty much a centrist. the hate and polarization was ginned up by the right, including Fox news and all the rest. The polarization came because the right decided, one way and another to do anything to get rid of him. They stirred up the primary forces of hatred and bigotry and out came Trump out of their unholy cauldron of crap.
"and foreign policy disasters."
The biggest one I saw was making a promise on a reprisal that he decided not to do. Yah, wasn't a fan of that one, since the world must believe us, but then you bring in Mr. lying sack of shit with his 3000 plus lies and i'm like, really, we are still comparing that? I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the world, with the exception of I think Isreal and Russia saw us far better pre Trump.
"And the problem was exactly that Obama was really smart, wanted to do everything himself, and ended up micromanaging."
He did probably control more militarily than was a good idea, but Trump is the opposite, and seems to not do much at all. Neither are great solutions. Thankfully Trump isn't trying to control much since he is so ill informed and not interested in being informed that if he were to attempt it it would be an unmitigated disaster.
"Obama represents the hubris of technocrats, progressives, and intellectuals."
There is nothing wrong with being intelligent or educated, no matter how much the right pushes this drivel. I also never saw arrogance in his being.
"And it's Obama's miserable performance as president that paved the way for Trump." And yet histor
Right. With a summary like that, who needs more than one political party. Eh, comrade?
Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him. That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job.
It is a fact, but it doesn't *have* to be a very big problem if he gets good and relatively unbiased advisers. At that level, you should NEVER know as much as the people who are advising you, because there's only so much time in the day and if you're supplanting their judgment then chances are you're making a *less* informed decision.
The problem is that without knowledge, it's easier to be misled, so you need really good advisers who are relatively unbiased and who share objectives that are desirable from the POV of the entity that he is running (in this case, the United States). It does not appear either that he is doing that or that anybody is meaningfully able to teach him how to take more intelligent personal actions to help that entity.
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The Democrats will never win another national election and its all because of you.
So Trump asks a bunch of people for advice. Including Gates. About a received wisdom ("Vaccines are an absolute good").
Can someone please explain what's wrong with that?
We're talking about a guy who saw what 99% of the vaunted elite failed to see. Is he really so stupid?
Yeah, he has experts like Bill Gates flown in to explain it to him so he can ask questions.
Liberal anti-intellectualism has been cranked up to 11 for the last two years (at least), and the country is tired of it. Your party has already suffered the consequences in terms of fundraising. It's going to get really real come November.
Can't wait.
Yeah, "the left". You should try zodiac signs instead, they would at least give you 12 pointless distinctions instead of 2.
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I hope Secret Service is on the ball, because I can really only see one thing saving a republican presidency in the next election.
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To me, the biggest condemnation of Trump....
You value condemnation? Why?
Now that Gates got his, he cares about open source.
There's stupid and then there's stupid:
"The GOP front-runner asserted that the U.S. also "cannot be the policeman of the world" when it comes to allies in the Asia Pacific region, suggesting he would like to see Japan and South Korea develop nuclear weaponry in order to combat North Korea."
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"In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody -- I think it was Robert Kennedy Jr. -- was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things. And I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that.
The Cult of Science has spoken: Researching into BAD effects is a BAD thing, mmmkay?
Especially if it exposes flaws, or fraud!
Is because he wants to bang her.
Besides that, it’s poetic justice that a tech giant feels like his daughters life has been invaded. Welcome to the club.
What's wrong with BLM? It's only divides away those who think black lives don't matter.
> with the exponentially increasing premiums of the ACA.
You can always tell when someone doesn't remember life before the ACA. We got the same increases for insurance that didn't cover anything, if we were insured.
> nor was Syria
ISIS was a disaster created indirectly by Bush and contained by Obama. Syria as a whole is going more or less the way Obama wanted: It's been soaking up Iranian and Russian defense spending for a long time.
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CohibaVancouver opined:
To me, the biggest condemnation of Trump is not that he's ill-informed - Lots of people are ill-informed on lots of things - It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed. Obama read for hours each night - Briefing papers, books - You name it. Trump reads nothing.
Sadly, it's actually worse than that.
It is quite clear that not only does Trump have, as you put it, "little interest" in becoming informed, but, instead, that he actively resists any attempt to provide him with information on subjects that trigger him.
It's also why he labells as "fake news" anything that displeases him. It's not that those things are factually inaccurate. It's that he just doesn't want to hear them ...
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He hasn't got there. Yeah, racial unity through bigotry, prosperity through corruption, progress through ignorance, world leadership though jingoism does not make sense. But worse, they've been tried throughout history over and over, and they don't work. How many chances are *you* going to give them?
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I bet she could come up with some political jargon that you wouldn't get but every politician in the room would know what she was talking about.
No sig today...
It's interesting that you think "Like with a cloth" was serious when it's obvious from the context that it was a joke: https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...
I'd agree, except Trump is a disaster for peace and prosperity. China and South Korea are primarily responsible for NK, not because Trump made threats and insults on Twitter, and his actions with Iran and Israel are extremely terrible for peace. Prosperity? Sure, if you're the 1%. His massive giveaway to them gave some crumbs to the middle class, at the expense of massive debt. I could list a bunch of policies from healthcare to education that are appallingly awful for the prosperity of the poor.
Trump supporters live in a fantasy world thinking his propaganda about things improving for everyone is true.
Maybe the version from 1999
"He's highly intelligent, genuinely cares about people and has so much money that he can't be corrupted."
Sure but now there is a stable genius who cares for his business and claims to have so much money ...
Sorry, just because something makes Trump look stupid doesn't mean it's biased against him. That he lacks basic knowledge on a wide range of issues is simply a fact, and a very big problem considering his job
To me, the biggest condemnation of Trump is not that he's ill-informed - Lots of people are ill-informed on lots of things - It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed. Obama read for hours each night - Briefing papers, books - You name it. Trump reads nothing.
Even worse, he believes he is the smartest person in the room, and thus acts based on his opinion with little consideration of what others have to say.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
I absolutely don't trust Gates. The man has repeatedly lied and connived the world, a snake and weasel. DJT might "test" Gates some way to see his response either as an intellect, as a biased advocate, or as a useful advisor.
It is fair for DJT to quiz an involved party about "differences" in vaccines and viruses. I don't expect DJT to be a molecular biologist.
Gates certainly flunked DJT's loyalty and discretion tests. I do suspect that Gates is engaging in character assassination and misrepresenting his interactions.
Wasn't it Bill Gates that banged Phillipe Kahn's wife?
Although personalities like Trump tend to be shallow in many ways, in this case, I think Gates is engaging in character assassination and probaably misquoting or misreading Trump's questions.
Even George W. Bush reads. Trump thinks he's too "smart" to need it. Dunning-Kruger effect in action. If you profess you're the smartest person ever most likely you're just stupid. The bastard can't even finish a sentence without nonsense.
She's gross looking. He was probably trying to be generous, and overcooked the praise
until it wandered into 'little too much' territory.
But yeah, she is barf-bag ugly. Maybe that's what tipped Bill off? Nobody ever sang such praises over his barf-bag daughter before, with such detail.
XCode is not $100 /yr. If you wish to publish software on the Apple App Store then that is $100 year.
Try to mkdir "LPT1" in your OS and will fail.
is his comment about immigrants being animals. Don't get me wrong, I have issues with America's immigration policies (I'm a tech worker and the constant stream of H1-Bs has killed my wages and lead to companies that won't train or promote), but it frightens me to see anyone referred to as an animal. Once we start dehumanizing people we can do anything to anyone because it's not a big leap to declare anyone who's inconvenient an 'animal'. That line of thought shouldn't be in our country much less our president.
Now, I don't actually thing Trump believes that. But that's the problem. He knows how to work a crowd and will do and say _anything_ to do it. He's amoral. No immoral, amoral. He has no morality whatsoever. He feeds the crowd whatever it wants and, well, things are tough in America right now for about 80% of the population. And when things get tough people get mean. Trump's feeding that sentiment with wild abandon...
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To me, the biggest condemnation of Trump is not that he's ill-informed - Lots of people are ill-informed on lots of things - It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed. Obama read for hours each night - Briefing papers, books - You name it. Trump reads nothing.
What are you talking about? He subscribes to Playboy for the articles! Not the pictures. He reads. You must be Melania's friend.
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Isn't it a shock how dumb *all* of the Republican presidents are? Either they were all just ridiculously stupid, including Trump, or the media is lying.
Yes, it's option 2.
You are supposed to be the smart ones, the kind of people who don't take media at face value, and look underneath the hood.
But you have been brainwashed by the media.
Well done.
Perhaps, do some more research and understand politics a little better. Or just stay being brainwashed little sheep without a clue on what's going on, but chiming in "popular" anecdotes about Trump with little knowledge of the truth.
Ps. Weiner's laptop got released for discovery on May 16th.
I would choose a leader who actually gets stuff done over one who comes off as scholarly any day. Taxes got cut and my take home pay went up. The US embassy just opened in Jerusalem and it didn't cost a billion dollars. The mainstream media has been exposed for the biased fraudsters they are.
But since I didn't even know HPV was a thing, I guess I should never run for president.
You're suggesting we don't berate the POTUS over ignorance about common knowledge issues?
Seriously?
That is one of the most naive and fallacious things I have ever read. Gates isn't that smart, just wealthy, and he got that way by stealing and then abusing the resulting monopoly. There is no one to praise in this piece.
You also got 1.2 trillion in debt your grandchildren will be paying for you. But hey, enjoy those extra $50 a month.
A politician like Trump than one like a tech CEO who feels like it's his/her place to police speech and silence their political opponents on their personal internet platforms.
Gates: "Trump is so dumb he doesn't know the difference between floating point and integer BASIC! I'm so smart."
Really, why SHOULD he know a priori? It's silly to ding someone on an esoteric point of science. Trump probably doesn't understand regression equations either.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
one does not need to be biased, for or against, really (unless you're both biased and a moron.. then there's no hope for you), to see that president creepy is the worst thing to ever happen to this country... slavery? the civil war? that was nothing. the great depression? world wars? nixon? assassination of jfk? cuban missile crisis? nope. annihilation of native americans during expansion? terrorism? okc? wtc? racist law enforcement? watergate? snowden revelations? no, sorry. not those either. it's trump. the fake hair, spray-tanned, narcissistic, moronic, creepy conman currently occupying 1600 penn ave; and by association, the moron-minority that voted that loser into office, is the most absolutely destructive thing to ever happen to the u.s.a.
Who knows the difference? Iâ(TM)m not an idiot and I donâ(TM)t know or care. I donâ(TM)t have STDs and donâ(TM)t associate with people (low class) that do. At least that I know of. Itâ(TM)s not a casual topic. How it came up, who knows.
I like gates from his Microsoft days. But he, like all billionaires are out of touch. His wife, gone crazy. And making unrealistic, fantasy based statements.
Gates isnâ(TM)t a doctor. He met trump twice? And not alone so it wouldnâ(TM)t even be undivided attention. And of course recorded. So not personal a conversation.
So what is gates choose to talk about during this little time he had with the president? A quiz on STDs and some other bullshit.
So it was wasted time. Time is precious. Gates should know this. Or is he so far out of touch he simply does not care about being useful except to talk trash like a trailer park drug addict.
Welcome to the bottom gates.
Like when Trump asking Russia to recover Hillary's emails was a joke?
Welcome to 2018. The Left has decided that context, intent, and humor doesn't matter.
Your ilk shat the bed. Now you can fucking sleep in it.
Hillary For Prison.
I'm neither a Trump voter nor a GOP "operative". But given the increasing idiocy of the American left, I may well become one in the future.
But the ACA promised to fix this, and it failed to deliver.
It is not, however, what voters wanted when they elected Obama.
That's not an entirely irrational idea.
If Canada was a tyrannical rogue state threatening to eradicate America daily while developing nuclear weapons to do so, why the fuck would we ask, say, Britain to protect us?
You low life scum will never have a conversation with any president. To lie and say you can is pathetic. Or is English your second language and you didnâ(TM)t mean it like that.
You donâ(TM)t matter. You never will.
Your comments come down to saying "if Obama had only been totalitarian ruler of the country without opposition, then he could have done all these wonderful things for the country that he promised during his campaign".
Well, sorry, that's not the way the US works. When Obama promised something (improved race relations, more privacy, lower health care costs, etc.), he needed to take into account what opposition he would face and moderate his promises accordingly. He didn't do that, and that is exactly the kind of hubris that intellectuals often suffer from.
As for harnessing "disgusting and loathsome forces", that's how I and many others have come to view the Democratic party.
Science and reason tell us that the most successful societies are those that protect freedom of association, private property, free markets, and freedom of speech. That's what Republicans run on, and it is what Democrats (including Obama and Clinton) increasingly oppose.
Though Gates is far less corrupt than Trump, both came to their fortunes by great luck, embellishing their own worth, and a lack of guilt about screwing people over for a buck.
Bill Gates should run for president. He's highly intelligent, genuinely cares about people and has so much money that he can't be corrupted. I would absolutely vote for him.
His money isn't a reason to vote for or against him. He has lived a basically ethical life and even did a lot of charity he didn't need to. Is Microsoft perfect? Of course not, but compared to what we have Bill would be an excellent choice.
Trump, on the other hand, has a charity, or at least had one, but it seemed to be mostly a useful tool by Trump for Trump. There are so many examples that showed Trump has no ethics, and yet here we are..
If I had to pick someone rich with the skills, I'd likely go Bloomberg. Sure his idea of restricting soda sizes is never going to happen and he clearly has the skills and the ethics to do the job.
If I had to pick a more normal figure, it would likely be Jon Stewart, though he would hate the job. Elizabeth Warren might work for a woman nomination, but I've not seen enough to convince me she is a top choice, though obviously she would be tons better than Trump. Hillary could probably do a credible job, but I just don't think it is happening, even though a lot of the scandal is manufactured.
Cuomo on CNN really seems to know the issues, but itsn't a politician and may not have the leadership skills. For that matter, I'm not sure Bernie has them either.
When it all comes down to it, I have two requirements for a president to vote for them.
1. Are they when all is said and done a good person? Before Trump I never really doubted that of our presidents.
2. Do they have the skills needed to do the job? Of course if they are a good person but have a huge blindspot in one area such that they will make poor decisions then the answer to 2 is no. The last Bush was arguably weaker in the skills area, but still a good person.
That held a science degree...
Bill Gates? Don't make me laugh. Bill is the incarnate of evil. Microsoft is the same as ever. Open Source is meaningless to oppose because they can't win, so they focus on monopolization of hardware (DRM) instead. Is free software a thing yet? No, it's not.
Then lets use another example Ronald Reagan. Reagan spent years debating issues and reading. You may disagree with Reagans policies but he was
not ignorant he understood his own beliefs and why he believed they were right. He usually hired very competent people to advise him. In last few
years he was suffering from alzheimers but before that he was fairly quick witted and could laugh at his own shortcomings and could
sit down and make a deal with his political opponents. Im a liberal democrat and I liked Reagan as a decent human being. Now compare that
with Donald Trump a man who is notoriously thin skinned and believes he knows more about everything than experts do.
This is a guy who raw-dogs porn stars. So his life *literally* depends on knowing something that everybody else knows - and yet a total fucking face-palm.
Yes. The universe owed it to Obama to behave ideally. Whenever anything in the universe fell short, it was the universe's fault, never Obama's. With the universe constantly failing him, there was no way he could accomplish his goals. It's very sad. Don't you feel sad?
There's no such expectation of Trump. Trump will have to succeed or fail with the actual, non-ideal universe, based on his own actions.
At least we won't have to feel sad.
"has so much money that he can't be corrupted"
Unfortunately the bar is so high that this is difficult to rely on; mere billions can't guarantee honesty, indeed most of those who amass huge fortunes show few signs of becoming less acquisitive.
Gates is probably a rare exception, given his vast wealth and the protection offered by his nerd genes.
After all, he's so heavily invested in the democratic socialist machine, you think he would say anything nice about Trump? And get thrown out of the club?
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What's wrong with BLM?
What's wrong with a one race matters movement?
The exclusion of other races.
Glad I could answer that for you.
"you have to pass the bill to know what's in the bill" -nancy pelosi -d (current minority leader, us house of representatives)
Your first example is a much derided clip that was severely taken out of context?
That's not offering as much as you may think.
Trumptard spotted.
Why would we? We already have thousands of nukes. Would Britain ask us? Actually they would. âoeTheirâ nukes are actually our nukes. They come from the same pool.
Microsoft needs.it's cheap supply of H1B to keep profits up, or Bill might.loose a few billion, time to make fun of Trump.
Bill Gates? Don't make me laugh. Bill is the incarnate of evil. Microsoft is the same as ever. Open Source is meaningless to oppose because they can't win, so they focus on monopolization of hardware (DRM) instead. Is free software a thing yet? No, it's not.
Please BIll is no more the incarnation of evil that Romney was. In some ways we overreacted with Romney and that made us less believable when Trump came along. As sad as it is to say it, we might have been better off had Romney won, if for no other reason is it would have almost certainly prevented Trump. Not that I would ever vote for someone just because 4 years later it might prevent another Trump from getting in. That would be crazy.
Visual Studio is free now.
"Open source" is not about the price.
Xcode is the one that is $100 a year and also requires an expensive hardware dongle to run.
Wrong and wrong. Xcode is free (no cost) and does not require any dongle.
Don't you mean Melanie?
Thats EEE you're witnessing. From that same article you referenced:
"And so, Microsoft’s kneejerk rejection of open source became a liability, as it tried to convince CIOs to move their server infrastructure up to the Microsoft Azure cloud. That’s why Nadella has made it such a point to claim that “Microsoft loves Linux,” and why Microsoft has released certain key technologies as open source."
Their contributions to Linux are so that Linux works better inside Windows to make windows better not Linux better.
> ISIS - No longer a major threat.
Trump had nothing at all to do with this.
> US economy - Heading back in the right direction.
Trump had nothing to do with this either. All he's done is give a lot of money to rich people with his future-robbing tax cuts.
> N. Korea - Coming to the negotiating table.
That's all down to China! How ignorant are you?
It's absurd to suggest Trump has done anything useful!
Also fuck you with using microsofts contributions to open source as their proof of being open source friendly. Has microsoft ever made a program which they gave away to the open source community like Netscape did? Name ONE single program microsoft has made thats open source. Even Google has at least 2 big ones.. Chromium which is what Chrome runs on and Android. You can't name one because the only contributions microsoft has made are to existing open source programs and it is only to help its windows empire such as windows tools and better integration with azure. GFY!
Visual Studio may be free on the surface but its not freeware. Freeware has no strings attached. It is more like spyware. Visual studio has more telemetry than even windows 10 has and even when you turn it off it still persists in talking to the mothership. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/16131. See comment by delsvr on Oct 30, 2017. Their answer was to close the thread!
....his actions with Iran and Israel are extremely terrible for peace.
You mean the long history of peace between Iran and Israel is over?
His massive giveaway to them gave some crumbs to the middle class,
Keep telling middle class people that the extra money in their paycheck is "crumbs".
Trump supporters live in a fantasy world thinking his propaganda about things improving for everyone is true.
Maybe not everyone, but individuals know whether things are improving for them or not. Unemployed people see the help wanted signs. Middle class people see the extra money in their paycheck. Investors see their 401k balance.
If itâ(TM)s important itâ(TM)ll be explained on Fox News
telling them what they wanted to hear was Bernie Sanders, and it's been pretty well documented that the DNC & the Mass Media (CNN/MSNBC/Fox News, etc) were actively ignoring him and trying to bury his campaign.
Like Trump said, what have you got to lose? Hilary is pretty far right economically. What folks wanted was a populist. Trump is a populist on the podium. Too bad that ended as soon as he got elected.
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The 'dongle' referred to is probably the requirement to buy a MacOS-running computer to develop & publish in Xcode for iOS devices. (Since you can only legally virtualize MacOS on Apple-branded hardware; because Apple refuses to license OSX to be run on any virtualization host)
Saying "Black LIves Matter" isn't exclusionary of other races, it's just pointing out a fact, or at least a near universally held opinion. It's hard to believe you feel excluded by the concept that black lives might matter. Did some BLM protestor tell you that or something?
If you think all lives matter then there's no way BLM should be offensive or controversial to you.
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It's completely irrational to support the spread of nuclear weapons. It's much better for all concerned if Japan never needs a nuclear program.
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Saying "Black LIves Matter" isn't exclusionary of other races, it's just pointing out a fact...
In an exclusionary way.
It's hard to believe you feel excluded
It’s not a feeling. I am excluded.
there's no way BLM should be offensive or controversial to you.
It’s not "offensive or controversial", it’s just one race caring about themselves to the exclusion of everyone else.
Would a white lives matter club be a problem? Clearly it would. Race exclusionary movements are a problem.
Chromium is based on webkit, an open source browser that existed long before Google and Apple decided to use it.
Android is based on Linux and Java.
You sad bruh?
You are a complete fool. Ignorant.
I'm neither a Trump voter nor a GOP "operative". But given the increasing idiocy of the American left, I may well become one in the future.
That'll show them! You are genius...
Obama put on more debt during his 8 years than that...
If Canada was a tyrannical rogue state threatening to eradicate America daily while developing nuclear weapons to do so, why the fuck would we ask, say, Britain to protect us?
In your hypothetical, does Canada have the same Queen as Britain? Because if so, it's not a ludicrous idea.
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I hope you're as upfront with your one-night stands as you are with Slashdot, because your ignorance is important information.
Know, world, that you should always use a condom with this moron.
You're missing the point of BLM. The reason people find it necessary to say out loud, is because it's a response to a system that for decades has said that black lives don't matter.
It might have been clearer if they'd instead chosen to say "black lives matter too."
Clearly the man is dead end.
The liar and chief is as ignorant or as willfully ignorant as his followers.
If you think all lives matter then there's no way BLM should be offensive or controversial to you.
If you think black lives matter then there's no way "all lives matter" should be offensive or controversial to you.
I'm pretty sure that's where the movement went sideways.
You mean the long history of peace between Iran and Israel is over?
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was a major setback in that conflict, and pulling out of the Iran deal is a risk for our peace with them, not to mention destroying our credibility for other such arrangements. Then there's the little matter of appointing a notorious extreme warmonger named John Bolton.
Keep telling middle class people that the extra money in their paycheck is "crumbs".
Since the average amount they'll see is $20, I absolutely will.
Maybe not everyone, but individuals know whether things are improving for them or not. Unemployed people see the help wanted signs. Middle class people see the extra money in their paycheck. Investors see their 401k balance.
Plenty of people recognize things are not actually improving for them. Aside from the question of how much credit Trump deserves for unemployment, which is a whole debate in itself, of the other two things you've mentioned one is propaganda unless you think $20 is significant. The other is mostly a benefit for the wealthy; and if you really want to claim the gains the part of middle class with 401k holdings have seen is worth everything Trump has done, especially looking at the net after accelerated health insurance cost increases due to repealing the mandate without implementing any other cost control measures, that's kind of a weak argument for all the harm he's done to the poor, to our credibility, to our reputation, to our environment, to minorities, to immigrants including some legal ones, to civil rights in his Sessions appointment... and on and on.
It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed
Can you really blame him for that in this era of political polarization where just about everyone on both sides of the political spectrum dig themselves into foxholes on "their" side and label anyone on "their" side that refuses to dig themselves into a foxhole a member of the "other" side? With narcissistic personality traits being on the rise over the last few decades (one study on first year college students that started in the 1980s was forced to change the scale in the 2010) you could even argue that the man is just a ahead of the curve when it comes to what kinds of people the American people are becoming.
Seriously thou, my experience as a traditional liberal (pro meritocracy, gun control, science over feelings and religion, gay and minority equality) arguing with people on a variety of topics, many of them political, is that refusing to learn or accept anything that may disprove your prejudices is a trait shared by people on the right and the left in about equal measure.
"Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
The biggest problem I have with the movement is that it's viewing police civil rights abuses through the lens of race. Police abuse all races. They shoot unarmed members of all races. They illegally search members of all races. They fabricate evidence and testimony against all races (including against me, a middle class white dude). We don't need to end police abuse of black people, we need to end police abuse. That these abuses occur more frequently against black people is terrible (although sorry, they do have more interactions with police for a reason, that is purposefully ignored; and unarmed shooting fatalities after considering threat model don't even show bias), but the whole premise of confining the movement to a single race trivializes our problems with police as a whole, as if abusing/shooting more white people (which a lot of them see as a good idea), or abusing/shooting black people at the same rate as white people, would resolve the issue.
Well, North Korea is threatened by a warmongering rogue state that has thousands of nukes. So they are wise to develop some of their own, including the means to deliver it.
It's completely irrational to support the spread of nuclear weapons. It's much better for all concerned if Japan never needs a nuclear program.
Can you really trust other countries to protect your sovereignty? (I wouldn't; See WW2 and allied guarantees and promises and how they were all broken, see current situation in Ukraine) Have you ever heard of "salami-tactics"?
You misspelled Trump.
sudo ergo sum
That's correct. About 100 times a day Trump provides a reason to bash him, and this is "basically" just another one of those times.
You should probably read the link. You may as well claim that there is a link between heartburn and HIV after studying the effects of HIV on heartburn incidences.
MS-13 is an American gang, started here in the USA.
Yeah, but it took him eight years. Donnie only took one!
Can you really trust MAD not to literally blow up in everybody's faces? History shows pure luck and some extraordinary individuals in the right place got us through the cold war unnuked.
Their biggest fear seems to be Trump ending up being right about things because how he gets there does not seem to make sense.
I think the relevant saying to this is "a broken clock is right twice a day".
If he gets something right it's not likely due to any merit. It's just a coincidence.
Race relations deteriorated because of Obama. Sorry but you are wrong. And your opinion means as much as mine.
Tard who doesnâ(TM)t know Trump has been talking about issues since the â80s and even been encouraged to run.
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) fights with "sovereign citizens" I.e. people who want the benefits of the USA but not the responsibilities or taxes... Could have happened under any President.
See? Not such a stupid debate to have.
"I donÃ(TM)t have STDs and donÃ(TM)t associate with people (low class) that do."
You're an utter cunt.
He doesn't want to be informed you say but he asked Gates for clarification on HPV vs HIV and you're mocking him. Makes no sense. Plus he's a 70+ year old repeatedly married man to whom HPV would be "noise" at best. It isn't relevant to his lifestyle and when he was reaching adulthood there was some awareness of "VD" and not a lot of differentiation like this is today in education. As your friends, see how high is awareness of HPV. I'm aware of the cancer links for certain strains, Gardasil, etc. but I'm a geek who has sex with other men so there's more pressure to have awareness of these things in that community.
Popular on here? I'd have thought so, given the volume of neckbeard-wearing, women-hating, immigrant-hating, black-hating cunts that festoon this place. Oh, hardly anyone here is brave enough to face up to climate either.
Uhh it absolutely was not taken out of context. Feel free to watch the entire speech and educate yourself.
The ACA is 897 documents (about 20,000 pages). Large parts of it were kept secret unti literally the day before the vote, and the vast majority of Congress didn't have access to ANY of the final bill a week before the vote.
When she said "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" she meant that quite literally, and that's exactly what they did.
Turns out what was in it would be devastating, with the average premium increasing over 300%, with 250% higher deductibles, less network coverage, and none of the benefits promised. Less than 7% of Americans took advantage of it, while it fucked over and bankrupted small business who never got the promised tax incentives due to rules that nobody in congress read first.
In summary, fuck you.
"and foreign policy disasters."
I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the world, with the exception of I think Isreal and Russia saw us far better pre Trump.
That is huge under-statement.
When Obama was voted president, he got the Nobel peace prize. True, maybe I have the casual relation the wrong way,
but I can't be sure - either way would make sense. That is how it looks "from the outside". And then it wasn't even in comparison to Trump.
I'm still wondering if wtf you people are smoking? That wall on the US border sounds better and better. Perhaps Canada could build one too?
since when does the left, who is currently trying to spin a trump comment about MS-13 into a comment about illegal aliens (nancy pelosi herself is involved in the spin no less) care about spin?
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
. And it's Obama's miserable performance
Miserable performance in what? By all accounts and looking at it from a different country's perspective (i.e. I don't have skin in the game of your silly politics), he seemed to leave the country better in every way than he found it despite being mostly hamstrung in many key areas where he wanted to make a difference.
Your "missed opportunity on healthcare" is especially interesting on this given what he initially proposed and what the republicans who's support it needed eventually watered it down to.
Obama represents the hubris of technocrats, progressives, and intellectuals.
Reminds me of the Farage comments "people are sick of experts". That's Anti-intellectualism at its finest. A great way to run politics if your idea of politics is people bashing each other with sticks, and the muscliest man gets to impregnate all the women.
we got 10 trillion in debt under obama and NOTHING for it. at least now we get some extra cash
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
So what? He can judge a young lady's looks, we ALL do that because it requires no skill. As for him not knowing anything about a disease, I'm more scared about why Bill Gates DOES know that.
So... what is the difference?
Not at all. I'm winning.
Everyone's terrified of the former but everyone's got the latter.
Like when Trump asking Russia to recover Hillary's emails was a joke?
Welcome to 2018. The Left has decided that context, intent, and humor doesn't matter.
Your ilk shat the bed. Now you can fucking sleep in it.
Hillary For Prison.
Actually, we are all sleeping in the bed that your ilk shat in. Just saying...
I'm familiar with Bill Gates' daughter's appearance despite never having met her, that's the result of reading DailyMail.co.uk which has an obsession with women's appearance.
HPV is relatively unknown yet blasted all over TV in scummy ads trying to work up the hypochondriac crowd into taking more medicine they don't need. It does not surprise me that someone would have heard that acronym yet have no idea what it is actually in regards to, I certainly don't.
#FakeNews #Trump2020
So did Bush but that didn't stop people from calling him a moron.
There are many types of intelligence and ways of feeding and expressing it. One factor is not enough information to make an informed opinion on someone's intelligence alone.
Keep telling middle class people that the extra money in their paycheck is "crumbs".
Since the average amount they'll see is $20 [itep.org], I absolutely will.
Except, according to your article, the $20 benefit you cite was the benefit received by those with pass-through companies, not your average middle class worker as you claim.
What your article actually said, which is probably a conservative estimate in itself, is that the average benefit for the middle fifth of taxpayers who don't own a business would be $650. It also said this will raise to an $800 benefit next year. Most would agree $650 or $800 is more than just a few crumbs. You accuse others of propaganda, while you spread falsehoods yourself.
Since you're either dishonest or aren't so good at reading comprehension, you should leave the politics and other serious business to those capable of informing others of the facts, rather than your half-baked untruths.
That's like saying Philip Morris is an American company, started in America. However when rounding to the nearest percent, they derive 100% of their revenue from countries other than the US.
There has never been a towering intellectual who did a good job as president. Just Sayin.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
We have had a few presidents who were intellectuals. One will be remembered because he was black and started ISIS. The other was....? Leave your answer in the comments.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was a major setback in that conflict
But it was literally law since the 90's that our embassy would be in Jerusalem. Trump followed the law and a campaign promise unlike every other president before that made that promise and lied. You may not like it but following the law and a promise is a mark of good character for a president. Hamas and Iran will use anything as an excuse for violence especially if they can get a good photo-up western media will lap up. "protestors" killed that just so happen to be mostly Hamas.
pulling out of the Iran deal is a risk for our peace with them, not to mention destroying our credibility for other such arrangements.
The US never agreed to the Iran deal. Full stop. Obama made a promise he couldn't keep. Obama didn't have authority to make such a deal binding to other administrations. Obama made a promise and kept it for as long as he was in office. The US did not break any promise or deal. Not following the law to get what you want and lying about the pretenses is the mark of a bad character for a president.
I am sorry but the damage to US credibility is because of a president making promises without consent of the Senate expecting "not a treaty" to be treated as law by the rest of the government. There is no defending the Iran deal as struck by Obama and friends. He created a quagmire the moment he went around Congress.
whats the "difference between HIV and HPV", cause you know..... just asking for a friend.
You people are obsessed. Nuts.
For one thing, this is third party hearsay.
For another ... if you lose to a clown, the fault is not within the clown. If even a clown sounds better than you, it might be you with the problem.
Bill won't be free much longer.
And he's like a smart person, you idiots keep telling us, a genius, playing 3D chess with all the libruls. Are you saying he's, like, stupid?
Not at all. I'm whining.
FTFY
yeah, thatâs equally true for anybody who aspires to become president. another stupid candidate doesnât make trump smarter.
So he asked, but did not care to listen.
Last I checked Bill Gates was a c student right?
Wow. Ignore reality much, do we? The right actually campaigned as their major primary plank to make obama a lame duck president.
And it was HIS fault he got so little done?!?!?!?!?!
That's the biggest problem. He's the president of the United States, he can get information about any topic from the best and brightest at any time he wants, yet he consistently choses to listen to conspiracy theorists and watches cable news up to 8 hours a day. This guy is such a complete and utter moron, it's surreal. Even friends of him suspect that he hasn't read a single book during the past 30 years. Before Trump came into the public spotlight, I didn't even know people like him existed. (I don't watch reality TV shows.)
>> It's that he has little interest in actually becoming informed.
So, he didn't know about something. Then he asked about it. Now he knows about it. That seems like the opposite of your claim. In fact, I can only imagine that this practice has been a major ingredient of his (and many others') success in life.
Do you refrain from asking about things that you don't know about to avoid looking "stupid"? That seems like an excellent way to remain ignorant of things.
Since this is the second time I've seen this, sorry, but what?
If there was any group that would be safer than others to "raw dog" as you so eloquently put it, it would be porn stars. Do you have any idea how much internal testing goes on within the industry? If there was a group that's more likely to be STD free than the porn industry, I'd honestly like to hear it?
Also, is this somebody from the left slut shaming? How hypocritically intolerant of you.
Started ISIS? If only that was the stupidest comment here.
Surely there is a 'news for idiots' website where you could all hang out and spout diarrhea at each other without bothering the rest of us?
Only you think like that because if you arent mentioned, it is angering you like a triggered avalanche of snowflakes.
Wow.... some people here have really short memories when it comes to Bill Gates and Microsoft.
If Bill G ever got a position of power in the government, do you honestly think he wouldn't try to leverage that to get more government offices using Windows servers hosted in Azure?
Uh what? Porn actors are tested for HIV but not other STDs. STDs are rampant in porn.
I've liked Elizabeth Warren from Bill Mahar's show. Also, on Howard Stern, George Stephanopoulos' name has been floated. I haven't heard anyone really talk shit about that guy and doesn't have a pissed off wife or sex scandals.
"...to the exclusion of others". That doesn't apply when BLM is an argument for not being excluded from being treated with respect and equality. When people protest "Hookers' Lives matters", that's not to exclude others, that's another way of saying, "Motherfuckers, investigate Hookers murders and catch serial killers".
No, that's being tone deaf. It's like saying "I'm in pain" and the asshole beside you oblivious to your problem says, "we all feel pain".
And commented on by democrat operatives like yourself, who would've put either a senile commie in power or a massively corrupt witch.
I couldn't stop laughing reading that and thinking of Trump's Mexican wall. The repeal of ACA, locking up Hillary, all the fucking jobs he's bringing back, etc. Fuck, he did more for jobs in China than the US.
Are you high? None of that is true, thinking of abortions and hypocrisy off the top of my head.
Arnold Schwarzenegger can't be US President.
I don't believe Trump invalidated the deal or provided any proof that Obama couldn't make the deal, he just pulled out of it because of a couple of deal points. What really makes Trump make US look like shit is how it's going against it's allies on these deals. Now he's trying to fuck with the world's pharmaceutical prices because the US health care system is insane in the membrane. Fuck that guy.
We *know* that he walked into the dressing room at one of his beauty contests, and that the young women in there were only semi-clothed or nude. We *know* he's got a yen for Ivanka. Why should we not believe Gates when he implies Trump is a creep?
If they needed any help, I would *NEVER* let that sexual predator near my daughters or granddaughter.
In my imagination, Melania didn't have HPV when she got married but does now and that her recent hospital visit wasn't some kidney thing. That's why shit is ice cold between them now.
By Salvadoran immigrants, or so I've read.
If the embassy didn't cost a billion dollars, tear it down, it's fucked. That shit is bugged.
Swing and a miss. The guy had to ask twice. Also, you can't forget all the times Trump boasted how he made shit up in discussions with other countries and still didn't learn the facts after being corrected.
I'll give you a 1/100th of a point as some groups have indeed used the BLM phrasing to exclude other groups of people. But otherwise this is simply bullshit.
What is the problem with a WLM movement? That the BLM started as a protest that blacks were treated differently than whites, this in a lethal manner. So the BLM (non-extremists ignored) want to be treated the same as your whites. Your WLM movement would have to add some preferential treatment for whites to make sense - and there's the problem. Because wanting to be treated different than others because of your "race" is racism.
However perhaps your use of WLM is inclusive? If so please explain your line of thinking.
Most likely, what you like about Obama and his accomplishments is that he made the US more like a European progressive welfare state. You consider that "better", Americans by and large don't.
ACA was passed without Republican support, hence Republicans had no opportunity of watering it down.
You suffer from the typical misconception that "intellectual" = "intelligent, rational". In fact, "intellectual" is simply a class of professions: academics, journalists, writers--people who make their money from using their intellect. Karl Marx, Lothrop Stoddard, Charles William Elliot, and Giovanni Gentile were intellectuals. Henry Ford and Winston Churchill were not. You bet I'm "anti-intellectual": people whose main accomplishment in life is to theorize about how other people ought to run their lives ought not to run countries.
I think the lesson is not to be exclusionary. Then you don't have to say "...but we really don't mean it the way it sounds".
As I'm sure you know, but I'll say it anyway...BLM doesn't mean "Black lives *only* matter", it means "Black lives matter as well". This is obvious to anyone who has seen a "look out for motorcycles" sticker. That sticker isn't saying "look out for motorcycles and cars, trucks, and buses can go to hell". It's saying "motorcycles are are often missed, so pay closer attention to them."
What Republicans actually campaigned on was opposition to Obama's policies and his vision for America, and Obama knew that going in, so he shouldn't have promised things that he couldn't deliver. But that isn't even the issue here.
The real problem with Obama was that his positions changed greatly from when he was campaigning to when he became president. He ran on restoring constitutionality, the rule of law, listening to voters, privacy, and fiscal responsibility, and all that went out the window when he became president.
Why would anyone in their right mind even acknowledge they had any kind of interaction with that orange toad of a man?
That's like running around proclaiming at the top of your voice that you have Herpes.
provided any proof that Obama couldn't make the deal,
Proof? Like Iran not signing on the deal because "not a treaty"? I am sorry but this doesn't make any sense. Sure, Obama can promise things that Obama can fulfill like "political commitments" but when it comes to promises of the United States the Senate must approve precisely because of shit like this. Obama set the Iran deal up for failure by ignoring the Congress. That is not how the US operates and Obama should have known better instead of trying to create a legacy built on lies and executive overreach.
What really makes Trump make US look like shit is how it's going against it's allies on these deals.
Because our Allies were fed the same bullshit lies that Obama could keep his political commitments after his term ended. Absolutely it causes problems and it makes our government look retarded. Because the United States did not agree to anything and this is exactly why the Senate must approve deals and treaties and that they have the same effect as law when approved properly. You want a treaty to be taken seriously in the US and not subject to the whims of the president? Follow that damn law and have the Senate approve. Obama was a damned fool and his "legacy" will be one of overreach, failure, and lies.
So what I'm hearing is, Tums cures HIV. Amirite?
I've seen countless documentaries on the porn industry, they get a whole panel done that tests against every STD known to man; and not strictly just HIV. Like anything in life, shit can happen. Testing is the industry norm, safety is a major concern to industry professionals as it is their bread and butter. This shit is also regulated. The industry is composed of a lot of the same people, and within this small community of isolated individuals what hurts one can hurt the group. News of this nature travels fast. Reputation is key. What you say makes no sense.
You're projecting Hillary Clinton's shortcomings onto Trump.
I have seen no indication that that is any different for Trump. If anything, Trump has been more consistent about implementing his campaign promises than other politicians: reduce regulations, tough negotiations with the Chinese on trade, get illegals out of the country, try to reverse ACA, cut corporate and personal taxes, appoint conservative judges, charter schools and school vouchers, etc. Those are traditional, rational, moderately conservative views.
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) fights with "sovereign citizens" I.e. people who want the benefits of the USA but not the responsibilities or taxes
I wouldn't call Google or Apple 'citizens;' they're corporations.
You obviously haven't read the charter. If the name doesn't bother you "Preserving the nature of the african american family" is pretty darn racist
How does the Republican position ("fetuses are human beings and deserving of the same protections as children") contradict "freedom of association, private property, free markets, and freedom of speech"? Where do you see the "hypocrisy"?
Well, one thing is sure. There is no doubt that the people who are currently in the White House share your opinion. You should try a career as a presidential adviser.
We're talking about Obama's presidency here and whether he kept his promises. In many cases, Obama didn't even try.
I have no opinion on whether Obama did better or worse in that regard than Trump; that's a question we can revisit in another six years, at the end of Trump's presidency.
My father-in-law parroted some Fox News bullshit about a Harvard study that concluded how all media is biased against Trump. I looked up the study. What it actually said is that a large percent of coverage of DJT is negative. That's not bias though. The counterexample would be "Is the local paper biased for reporting that the Thurber Beavers lost yet another Calvinball game?" No! Just because you're reporting on something bad, doesn't mean that you are biased against the person or thing that did bad things.
If Bill Gates were sincerely interested in working with (or through) Trump in order to advance some portion whatever he believes is the right agenda for America ... why publicly mock Trump after the discussion? It seems short-sighted. That Trump 1) reads news about himself, 2) is sensitive about his image, and 3) is spiteful is well-established. So does Gates care more about advancing what he purportedly believes, or getting a jab in at a buffoon?
It absolutely is taken out of context. The point of it was that people were being misled by the GOP about what the law was, and that one it passed and went into effect, they would see that the GOP was lying in many cases, and exaggerating in many others. Of course, she underestimated the GOP's ability to lie blatantly and their base's willingness to eat up their lies without so much as flicker of critical thought.
Saying "Black LIves Matter" isn't exclusionary of other races, it's just pointing out a fact...
In an exclusionary way.
In a way that refers to the many ways our society, and specifically within the justice system, demonstrates that black lives don't matter, at least not as much as others.
It's hard to believe you feel excluded
It’s not a feeling. I am excluded.
You are excluded from the assumption that you are doing something nefarious simply by being in a public space. You are excluded from the worst abuses of a police force that often views the black people they should be protection as enemies. You are excluded from laws that specifically hit black communities harder than white communities.
there's no way BLM should be offensive or controversial to you.
It’s not "offensive or controversial", it’s just one race caring about themselves to the exclusion of everyone else.
It's one race pointing out that they are being excluded from the basic levels of respect and freedom promised to ALL Americans.
Would a white lives matter club be a problem?
A problem? Not really. But incredibly dumb, because white people are no faced with inequality due to their pigmentation, whereas black people objectively and obviously do.
I don't think you'll find a single BLM supporter who thinks that only abuse of black people needs to end. If you take the time to look into what they actually advocate, you'll find that they back reforms in the criminal justice system that are in keeping with general principles of human rights and liberty, and would benefit people of all races. But those problems are borne disproportionately by black people and black communities, who are too often told through the actions of the police, courts, and their fellow citizens that their lives *don't* matter in a way that white people (and asians, for that matter, and latinos to a lesser degree) simply don't face.
and calling them animals is still a problem. Did you know there were death squads set up in parts of South America to kill street urchins like rats because they were a nuisance to the tourist industry? This is a real thing that happened in the 20th century. No human being should ever be called an animal. Ever. That will always end the same way. Concentration camps and death squads. Because once you get folks thinking that a person isn't a person then you can kill with impunity. And they will _always_ come for you when you become inconvenient.
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He's the president of the United States. There are some things you _do_not_say_. Period. End of subject. Dehumanizing people leads to genocides. We have thousands and thousands of years of history to back this up. The fact that the quote can be taken out of context is itself a problem. To you and me we see it as a nasty gut reaction. To a White Supremacist they see it as a call to arms. Like being asked to Rid him of a meddlesome priest.
Go read Bruce Sterling's Distraction...
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It depends on the context. In the case of a monarchy and unlimited power, those qualities are often disastrous, though not always, and not all the time.
In the case of a democracy/republic where such fairly ignorant and semi-jingoistic enthusiastic energetic leader -- bigotry and corruption I see as purely the left's exaggeration -- can be kicked out after 4 and certainly after 8 years, and where the members of the legislative branch have to suck up primarily to their own constituents, well all that to say is that such jolt of energy that's bad in the context of the unlimited power may well result in some good here, and some has already. If anything, all the doom prophesized by the left has not materialized yet, not even remotely.
Most likely, what you like about Obama and his accomplishments is that he made the US more like a European progressive welfare state.
Nope not at all. I was thinking actual metrics by which governments are judged. You know things like low unemployment, supporting marginalised groups against bigotry, pushing towards a greener and more environmentally friendly country, increasing energy independence, stopped torturing people, reduced homelessness, improved the economy on every primary metric which is especially amazing since under his watch there were more jobs created than any other president despite the entire economy being flushed down the toilet just as he started.
Yeah a bit of socialism helps too, like not leaving your war veterans to rot in the street, or the non-ultra rich to die of perfectly treatable medical conditions. Fuck yeah, socialism! I know, Americans hate the idea that the poor and old don't just die.
ACA was passed without Republican support, hence Republicans had no opportunity of watering it down.
Sorry you're right, it was massively watered down by corporate lobbying on democrats. Point is the same, the populous calling the ACA Obama Care couldn't be further from the truth given what he wanted to pass, and what eventually made it through your process. The ACA is what it is despite Obama, not because of Obama.
You bet I'm "anti-intellectual": people whose main accomplishment in life is to theorize about how other people ought to run their lives ought not to run countries.
Really? The people whose profession it is to analyse governments ought not to run them? Yep "sick of experts" rings true here. Don't worry mate, Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho should be running for office in 2020.
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Indeed the ACA did promise to fix this.
Think of it as a brand-new Tesla that can do 0-60 under 4 seconds vs. a brand-new Tesla trying to move at all with a huge log chain tying it to a tree (GOP opposition).
Yes, the car capable if ALLOWED TO DO SO.
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If Trump gets his way there won't be another national election, and its (sic) all because of you.
Bear in mind that there's never been a supreme court decision in the US saying that white lives don't matter, but there was one saying that black lives don't matter. The 13th amendment wasn't even fully ratified by all states until 5 years ago. The US treating black people like their lives don't matter is not, by any means, ancient history.
The biggest problem I have with the movement is that it's viewing police civil rights abuses through the lens of race. Police abuse all races. They shoot unarmed members of all races. They illegally search members of all races. They fabricate evidence and testimony against all races (including against me, a middle class white dude).
Yes they do, and they do it provably much more often with non-white people.
We don't need to end police abuse of black people, we need to end police abuse.
Agreed, but if you shine a light on the biggest factor that leads to police abuse, which is irrefutably race, you have a much more stable threshold upon which to curb the rest of the police abuse. It won't end overnight, you must make footholds into the institution of policing itself.
That these abuses occur more frequently against black people is terrible (although sorry, they do have more interactions with police for a reason, that is purposefully ignored; and unarmed shooting fatalities after considering threat model don't even show bias),
And this is where you veered off into fantasy land. The reason that is "purposefully ignored" has been repeatedly talked about by nearly every institution on the planet that isn't US police: white nationalist infiltration of the law enforcement agencies. You can throw all the cherry picked statistics you want at this argument, but the rest of us prefer to deal with reality.
but the whole premise of confining the movement to a single race trivializes our problems with police as a whole, as if abusing/shooting more white people
Kinda like writing code a line at a time is a bad idea, and all programmers should have a buffer for every line they write and not reference the others while writing? It's no wonder right wingers are rapidly leaving the STEM fields :)
(which a lot of them see as a good idea),
Again, this is pure fantasy invented by the far right wingers. Sucks that you're gullible enough to fall for it, but I guess my extremely profitable fake news website wouldn't work without people like you :)
or abusing/shooting black people at the same rate as white people, would resolve the issue.
No, the purpose of BLM is to stop ALL police abuse, by stymying the main focus OF the abuse: abuse of minorities. I'm sorry you don't get to feel bad for yourself because reality hasn't affirmed your self-victimhood, but that's kinda the problem with reality: it goes on being reality whether you believe in it or not.
I'm no defender of MS, but it has started open sourcing number of new projects. Not Office, but certainly new stuff.
Not sure why, since he grew up wealthy and used his mom's connections to get an in with IBM and his dad's advice to take advantage of it, but go figure.
Gates was selling microcomputer BASIC to Fortune 500 clients in the mid seventies. Microsoft ultimately developed a full suite of languages for CP/M ---- and MBASIC in its many incarnations defines the eight bit era. Gates didn't go to the IBM PC team. the IBM PC team came to him. The IBM PC was going to be a 16-bit CP/M or CP/M clone, of that there was never any doubt.
So you agree then that the ACA was a crony capitalist handout to big corporations. That's not the fault of Republicans, nor is it the fault of big corporations. It was the job of Democrats and Obama to represent the interests of the people and do what is right and they both failed miserably.
Most of those supposed accomplishments are figments of your imagination.
You know, I come from a fairly poor family and grew up under both democratic socialism and Eastern European socialism. The idea that any form of socialism "helps" anybody other than a privileged intelligentsia is laughable.
Indeed, just like music critics rarely are good performers.
Don't worry "mate", your superior culture will vote itself the next strong, smart leader into power yet, just like Germany and Italy did a century ago; it's what superior cultures do. And I know you will love it, given your evident preference for much of the 25 Point Program and eugenics (Idiocracy). Have you ever wondered what had happened to Europe by 2506, by the way?
We in the US will muddle through with our Camachos and do just fine. Don't you worry your pretty little head about us.
The GOP was indeed opposed to the ACA, but how did that opposition affect the ACA? The ACA was designed and passed by Obama and the Democrats without any GOP votes.
Yes, that's roughly what the ACA designers said. Specifically, they knew that the ACA itself was just a first step, and they believed they could make it work sooner or later if they were just allowed to tinker with new regulations, mandates, laws, and subsidies. But that's not what they promised publicly and it was a foolish bet to make.
More importantly, it wasn't going to work. The ACA ended up handing out massive amounts of money to special interest groups important to Democrats without addressing all the really hard problems of health care reform: cost controls, coverage limits, and an end to the socialization of risk.
Yeah, that's a lot of exclusive group self-focus. I'm more of an "everyone matters" sort of guy. So when groups start making everything about themselves, then it's time to tune them out (at best).
Lives matter because humanity matters, not because race does.
I couldn't care less about your movement's self-inflicted wounds, at worst they're just enjoyable cringe.
I'm just pointing out that if your response to someone stating that they "value all lives" is a rant full of hysterical accusations of racism, the ensuing PR disaster is one of your own making. Best of luck with that.
1. You say "black lives matter".
2. They say "yes, all lives matter" as a way of agreeing with you, explaining why they agree with you, and being as philosophically universal as possible.
3. You get mad.
And they're the one that's tone deaf?
You realize that up until the BLM phrase went viral "all lives matter" would have been about the most bland and inoffensive pro-equity statement anyone could have made? That you're demanding exclusive focus on your pet racism problem at the expense of all others, including making progress against racism in general? That somehow you've convinced yourself that you (and/or a group that you empathize with) are the only people in pain? Really?
Gates could buy and sell Trump hundreds of times and still have money left over.
Do you really, honestly believe he has less global influence than Trump?
It doesn't sound the way you're claiming.
You're claiming that the group is "only black lives matter" and nobody has ever implied that as a meaning, you chose to assign that meaning because you don't understand ANYTHING about what it's like to live as a minority.
"Reverse racism" isn't real, you're just overly sensitive because you insist that treating everyone the same regardless of social and economic circumstances is the only fair thing, while you deliberately ignore hundreds of years of stacked cards.
Voter ID laws treat everyone the same. But they're racist, they are put in place by people who KNOW that it will stop minorities from voting while not affecting white people. It's a system where treating everyone the same is still deliberately targeting one group, and at the end of the day that's the real motivation behind it.
Police action toward minorities is the same.
Nobody is asking for special treatment, they are asking for the rules that apply to EVERYBODY to stop singling them out unfairly.
That's the world you refuse to see.
for a presidential campaign? No surprise there. I always though an ruthless egotistic money grabbing person like him would run as a republican though. Well, he is better than Hillary but not by much.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but what ever happened to, "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all?" It's pretty low to trash talk someone who's not there to defend themselves.
As for not knowing about HPV, give me a break, President Trump is over 70 years old. People didn't really talk about HPV before what, 2000? Prior to that most people called it genital warts and men generally don't know what a pap smear is or what it's for.
The answer is: Woodrow Wilson.
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Your comments come down to saying "if Obama had only been totalitarian ruler of the country without opposition, then he could have done all these wonderful things for the country that he promised during his campaign".
Yes, Obama probably would have done fine with unlimited power, even though giving a president unlimited power would be absolutely crazy. See Trump, Donald J.
Obama made promises that were likely somewhat unrealistic. Politicians do that, or at least winning politicians do that. It is a horrible problem, because you can't just say, I'm going to keep at it and make incremental improvements that you may not even notice, and oh, by the way I expect to be massively obstructed by the republican party, so progress may be highly limited. I'd love the electorate to be smart and well enough not to run and hide from someone so honest, but that kind of person will never get elected, and, in truth, you need a certain degree of optimism if your going to get anything done. If you are certain failure is the only outcome, then you can be pretty certain you will fail.
Well, sorry, that's not the way the US works. When Obama promised something (improved race relations, more privacy, lower health care costs, etc.), he needed to take into account what opposition he would face and moderate his promises accordingly. He didn't do that, and that is exactly the kind of hubris that intellectuals often suffer from.
I pretty much addressed this. Find a way to get everyone up to speed so that when a politician is flat out honest he doesn't have to run for the hills. I don't think this is an easy problem to solve. Hillary didn't over promise. See where it got her (at least in part).
As for harnessing "disgusting and loathsome forces", that's how I and many others have come to view the Democratic party.
The democratic party doesn't:
1. Toss random roadblocks up in front of a legal procedure such as your hallways have to be double the width.
2. Generally doesn't harp on all the "illegal voting" and make up "solutions" for all the "illegal voting" that generally result in oddly less "legal voting" with the net result favorable to them. (i.e. another scam, since illegal voting is altogether pretty rare.)
3. call Mexicans rapists and murders in general.
4. Try to separate children from adults (jeff sessions on illegals).
5. Keep doing crap that benefits the ultra wealthy while blowing our deficits all to hell, then blaming the result on the next democrat elected.
6. Put a guy in charge of the EPA whose goal seems to be to destroy the EPA.
7. Put guys in charge of the FCC whose goal seems to be to destroy Network Neutrality.
8. Gut the hard fought health care improvement as much as possible, particularly without putting something better in place. Sure Trump and company failed to break it entirely but they did damage. Also, where the hell is that great better than anything and super affordable health care at Mr. Trump sir?
9. Doesn't praise power made dictators that use bioweapons on their enemies. (Putin and the North Korean leader.)
10. Doesn't express praise for the idea of being made leader for life. If there is one thing that is anathema to our country is the idea of a permanent leader, yet trump has done it several times.
11. Doesn't destroy the credibility of all legitimate press to the extent he can.
12. Doesn't try to cause an "accident" to any related entities of legitimate press that displease him, simply because they displease him. CNN mess and the attempts to hurt Amazon by doubling their rates, and only their rates.
13. Doesn't fire the people investigating, and threaten to fire everyone that is left..
14. Doesn't openly ask for help from a foreign power to hack their enemies.
15. Doesn't attend meetings with a foreign power discussing getting dirt on their enemies. Anyone sane with any experience at all should know as soon as the topic comes up you don't fucking say, "This is great." or words to that affect, you call the FBI.
But yah, the democrats are the bad ones. That protecting the environment, and social program stuff.. Gotta stop that. The Koch brothers need a raise.