I understand trolling to be making a deliberately shocking and disruptive statement which 1 - is patently absurd and indefensible in debate and 2 - I know to be false in order to produce an emotional reaction for the sheer sport of doing so. I wish I were trolling.
You are correct, it is absurd. Unfortunatly this is the state to which/. has devolved. I miss the days when it was about debate, with a tint of flame at times, but none of the current trolling and full on personal attacks. A common tactic of trolls is to reply quoting text the original poster never typed. The 'universe' statement stuck out like a big troll warning lamp.
Atheism's primary practice is to work through the government to supress the religious life of others. I have never known of any organized atheist effort not directed toward limiting the religious freedom of other people.
I disagree. From my point of view this practice is to prevent christanity from becoming our national religion. The debate is almost always concerning the 10 commandments. Atheists see this as very dangerous. For example, no religion at all in public(read government, public schools): The religious(christian, as other religions are rarely espoused to warrant public display) have the ability to teach their children, and practice their beliefs in thier churches and homes. If religion was taught in public school or displayed in every predominant government building(I won't open the argument of which religion) atheists as well as religions other that the posted one, go through the difficult task of unlearning that dogma that is forcibly subjected on them. Is it limiting your religious freedom? Probably somewhat, but the opposite completely destroys the religious freedom of atheists and every other non dominant religion by forcibly subjecting them to the majority's religious views.
Furthermore, say the top 10 list of huey the goblin were the posted items/classes in question. I pay taxes. You pay taxes. Do you want your tax dollars going toward instilling in every child, including your own, a dogma that you do not subscribe to?
Moment of silence in school? Sure go for it in my opinion, but as soon as one particular religion is pushed, I'll be there voicing my disagreement. Atheists get a bad name on this issues, as we take the front lines saying "no way." What you don't hear is the silent support from hindus, muslims, and the myraid of other religions practiced in this country. They don't want christianity shoved down their throats either, but don't want to publically take the side of "those devil worshipping atheist ammoral evildoers."
Point taken, but given that, I would really like to know how you distinguish yourself from agnosticism.
Unfortunatly, it's back to semantics. Admittedly, others can better describe the difference than I, but I'll try.
Agnostic: Believes god might exist(skeptical), but even if it does, it is not provable.
Atheist:Lack(back to that word again) of belief in god. But not anti-god.
Maybe this will help: a quote from another discussion that says it better than I can:
No, I'd call "hard atheism" a faith. "Soft atheism" -- nontheistic agnosticicm -- is the position that discounts faith; hard atheism assumes that something does not exist.
Or, to put another way: you can't prove a negative. You can't say God doesn't exist any more certainly than you can say he does. Nontheistic agnostics consider God irrelevant at best, but take no position on the definitive question of whether God exists at all. Such people are those who choose no faith at all. Everyone else -- believers, fideists (I would prefer to call myself a "theistic agnostic"), and "hard atheists" -- are operating on faith, either for or against.
/Brian
Now, he uses the term nontheistic agnosticism. This is what atheism is. It has been highjacked by people who are anti-theists(they are religious in this IMO) but do not want to call themselves 'anti' anything.
Theists==Agnostic||Atheist||Agnostic==Anti-theis t
Agnostics sit on the fences, some lean toward theism, some lean toward Anti-theism. True atheists are in the DMZ. We are the Switzerland of religion. I want so bad to say "we don't care" but that's not it, but at the same time that's it exactly. Very difficult to explain in a very binary issue.
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Hey, I can do this all day. I don't mind feeding trolls once in awhile.
My humility extends to my recommendation that you reevaluate your standard for truth. The invincibility of your ignorance with regard to the flaws of how you think demonstrates a lack of awareness of the capacity to do that. Your faith is, for lack of a better word, blind.
You sure read a lot into my thought process from a total of 4 lines of text. Faith? Faith? Atheism is not about faith. Perhaps you are referring to anti-theists? A(theism)==not. A(theism)!=anti. Not theist is not the same as anti-theist. You were born an atheist, but were taught dogma. I prefer to skip the dogma.
Not only is atheism a belief and an idea, but it is distinguished among ideas in that its fundamental characteristic is applied to others. It is by nature, therefore, a belief which can only exist in as much as it is forced upon others.
In a word, bullshit. One more time for the cheap seats: Atheism is not an idea. It is a non-idea. As to forced upon others, how many times were you drug off to atheism church as a child? How many atheist have knocked on your door trying to convert you?
It bears mention that the only defense you've raised outside of trying to bolster the "platform of Absolute Knowledge of the Universe" has been the emotional statement quoted above. Also, you have characterized my criticisms of the platform principle as trying to prove"a superiority complex" on the part of atheists. I thought the underpinning of atheism is the iron adherence to reason. It is interesting that someone so ostensibly dedicated to reason is capable of being so guided by emotion.
This gave you away as trolling. Good job feeding it though. Never anywhere have I said I was trying to bolster "platform of Absolute Knowledge of the Universe." Nice job trying to put words in my mouth however. I did not pin the superiority complex issue on you. That was all your doing:
Excerpt from the catechism, verse (hehe) 2: Their arguments are therefore intrinsically superior and not subject to question.
Atheists are not robots. We do not desire to be. Emotion is part of the human condition. Again, atheism has no iron underpinnings. It is about the lack of faith in deities. Nothing more, nothing less. Notice how I said "lack," but didn't say "disbelief." A very crucial difference between atheists and anti-theists.
That wasn't my point at all. Debate atheism to your heart's content. However, you will not be debating an idea, rather a non-idea. It's more akin to debating what's written on a blank piece of paper.
As an aside, pointing fingers while claiming that something has a superiority complex while quoting one's opinions as fact hardly portrays humble intentions.
My goal is to pull atheism off its pedestal and place it in the arena of ideas.
Atheism is not an idea. Take a chalkboard and put a big label across the top, "RELIGION." Leave it blank. Do not write in "god," "pink unicorn," or "NONE." That's atheism.
2% isn't that much in normal electronic terms. But when it comes to frequency 2% might as well be 50%. I worked with a guy who was retired FCC. He used to talk about checking radio stations(mostly it was a discussion about old test equipment). He said they were only allowed 5Khz deviation for their carrier. At 100Mhz that works out to way less than 1% and that was in the 1960's. Most base clocks in transmitters are based on 5 or 10MHz and converted from there. It is VERY common to see 5 X 10E-8 tolerances. That's 5 millihertz @ 10Mhz, which translates to 240 millihertz at 2.4GHz. Granted doublers and triplers add error as well, but even if it increased the error by a factor of 10(way over actual) would give you 2.4hertz at 2.4Ghz. That's all Xmitter side. The problems are different for receivers. Even so I don't see 5Mhz offset(taking into account the bandwidth only gives 5MHz separation) causing problems. I think their main problem is they can't make a receiver sensitive enough to use a 0 gain(omnidirectional) antenna to receive satellite feeds. Sounds to me like they are whining to compensate for a bad design to begin with.
I think Agilent is in the crapper because when the spinoff took place, their customer service SUCKED(I'm not aware that it has gotten better, new job, don't deal with them directly anymore). Right after they split they wanted to charge the company I worked for $100 to talk to tech support, this on a signal generator that was still under warranty. HP has been getting by on reputation for 10 years now. People had to wake up sooner or later.
It'd be square if it was terminated properly. Funny thing about most EE's though, they can do trig in their head but need an instruction manual to tie their shoes.
Warning: Rant that is probably partially off-topic.
Everytime I read a story like this, or stories about another school shooting I keep coming back to the same thought: Everytime they tighten up the rules after some incident it only gets worse.
Kids (males especially) from 12-17 have a natural instinct to assert thier independence. It's part of becoming an adult. Most of the things they do, and I did in my time, are just plain stupid, but the punishments have gotten so far out of whack it is ridiculous. There is no release for this aggression now that won't have them end up under a jail somewhere. Short non-scientific comparsion:
- We used to toilet paper yards on halloween, if we got caught we had to clean it up and do yard work for the victim. Nowadays a kid would spend a night in juvie, have 30 days community service and have to pay a fine.
- Graffiti, same deal, clean it, plus some you didn't do as well. Today in some cases it's a felony in California.
- Get caught with a beer, if you were driving you were screwed, if not, pour it out and the parents got called. Today, no license till you are 21, then you might get it if you are out of juvie in time.
Teens are already in enough of a pressure cooker. Every new zero tolerence policy that is applied like a wet blanket making shooting a spitball the equivelent of shooting a stinger missle down the hall only makes the pressure go up a few psi. If we keep this up it is only going to get worse. More kids killing themselves and each other.
I don't care much for the phrase "kids will be kids," but at those ages we have to stop treating them like criminals for petty little annoying shit. And before you troll with "well murder is just annoying" save your typing, we know the difference assholes.
If this kid broke into the school's system he should have received a punishment more suited to the crime. 10 days? I'd like to know the specifics of the whole deal. No disrespect to foo's post earlier, but it smells funny to me, and I don't believe those accounts. Sounds too much like a warped rehashed rumor.
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So I tap the old back button to return to slashdot. Only thier main page hijacks it. No backing up from the site. While the pulldown back menu got me out unscathed, fucking with *my* back button?? It's exit only Pal!
SDG&E (distributor) is owned by Sempra Energy(Producer). Sempra Energy sells wholesale power to SDG&E. While SDG&E whines about losing money, Sempra dramatically increases it's profits. As I see it Sempra is raping its subsidary company until SDG&E is allowed to increase prices, at which time Sempra will make even more money.
Funny how back in july when my power bill(for 525KwH) was over $150 they were reporting 34% growth. Now that retail prices have been capped, Sempra is still projecting higher earnings.
Add to all this, last week when CA had a state stage 3 emergency(power reserves drop below 2% of availble power) 1 THIRD of California's production capacity was off line for "routine maintenance or other factors."
Its stuff like this that makes me want to be a parent, just so I can participate in the educational system and tell some those idiots to get their head out of their ass. Of course, I could just social engineer my way to become a school administrator and accomplish the same goals. Judging from what I've seen, I probably exceed the qualifications for the job.
I hear you, but as a parent, it doesn't matter. Morons outnumber people with a clue 5 to 1 at school board meetings. It's much like being a little different was in high school, no matter how logical your position, you get shouted down by people who can't think for themselves that are doing just what the 6 o'clock news told them to do. Becoming a parent doesn't make a stupid person any more intelligent unfortunately.
I appreciate your sentiment for Mr. Hewlett. For most test equipment HP couldn't be beat. Agilent makes good stuff now, they are just a pain to deal with. That said, HP scopes have always sucked. The 545xx series digital scopes sucked, and their newer models haven't gotten much better. If TEK has lost scope market share, they've lost it to Fluke with it's line of scopemeters, not HP.
Still it's amazing how far one company has gone from having the 200CD oscillator as thier only product. It was a sad day when the spun the test and measurement division off into Agilent. Kinda like the company has forgotten where it came from.
I get 5-10 hits a day from spammers trying to hit port 1080. On a stock win98 system I'd be a unknowing little spam relay. I also get 3-4 scans a day from @home's 'security' boxes looking at port 119. Using a Linux box as a firewall/router helps with most script kiddies, and all the 'security scans,' but if someone really wants, they'll get in. I don't think that's @home's problem. If we put our boxes' security in thier hands, there goes what little freedom of use we have now, considering the midevil AUP that is in place. The service would become nothing more that REAL fast WebTV.
No, but the FCC should be concerned with citizen's rights.
Why do so many people self identify as a "consumer"? 10 years ago that word wasn't used except to describe someone sitting at the dinner table. Where exactly did we stop being citizens, or even customers?
I think on a subconsious level it is easier for groups/businesses/government to trample over our rights when we are thought of as consumers. It has such a parasitic tone to it, as if we need them more than they need us.
Funny how a small change in terminology can swing the power base.
U.S. Navy and Marine electronics schools, and technical manuals use E as the symbol for voltage applied. I saw another post in this thread where U was used and I thought it was a typo!:)
Also, it's not AC, it's pulsed DC, not the same thing. Trons don't run the other way when the voltage drops without a reverse in potential.
Ever notice how people get pissed when they see themselves as the butt of the joke? I wonder if that was the case here. Maybe he had to call tech support because he forgot to hook up his video cable or something.
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I understand trolling to be making a deliberately shocking and disruptive statement which 1 - is patently absurd and indefensible in debate and 2 - I know to be false in order to produce an emotional reaction for the sheer sport of doing so. I wish I were trolling.
/. has devolved. I miss the days when it was about debate, with a tint of flame at times, but none of the current trolling and full on personal attacks. A common tactic of trolls is to reply quoting text the original poster never typed. The 'universe' statement stuck out like a big troll warning lamp.
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You are correct, it is absurd. Unfortunatly this is the state to which
Atheism's primary practice is to work through the government to supress the religious life of others. I have never known of any organized atheist effort not directed toward limiting the religious freedom of other people.
I disagree. From my point of view this practice is to prevent christanity from becoming our national religion. The debate is almost always concerning the 10 commandments. Atheists see this as very dangerous. For example, no religion at all in public(read government, public schools): The religious(christian, as other religions are rarely espoused to warrant public display) have the ability to teach their children, and practice their beliefs in thier churches and homes. If religion was taught in public school or displayed in every predominant government building(I won't open the argument of which religion) atheists as well as religions other that the posted one, go through the difficult task of unlearning that dogma that is forcibly subjected on them. Is it limiting your religious freedom? Probably somewhat, but the opposite completely destroys the religious freedom of atheists and every other non dominant religion by forcibly subjecting them to the majority's religious views.
Furthermore, say the top 10 list of huey the goblin were the posted items/classes in question. I pay taxes. You pay taxes. Do you want your tax dollars going toward instilling in every child, including your own, a dogma that you do not subscribe to?
Moment of silence in school? Sure go for it in my opinion, but as soon as one particular religion is pushed, I'll be there voicing my disagreement. Atheists get a bad name on this issues, as we take the front lines saying "no way." What you don't hear is the silent support from hindus, muslims, and the myraid of other religions practiced in this country. They don't want christianity shoved down their throats either, but don't want to publically take the side of "those devil worshipping atheist ammoral evildoers."
Point taken, but given that, I would really like to know how you distinguish yourself from agnosticism.
Unfortunatly, it's back to semantics. Admittedly, others can better describe the difference than I, but I'll try.
Agnostic: Believes god might exist(skeptical), but even if it does, it is not provable.
Atheist:Lack(back to that word again) of belief in god. But not anti-god.
Maybe this will help: a quote from another discussion that says it better than I can:
No, I'd call "hard atheism" a faith. "Soft atheism" -- nontheistic agnosticicm -- is the position that discounts faith; hard atheism assumes that something does not exist.
Or, to put another way: you can't prove a negative. You can't say God doesn't exist any more certainly than you can say he does. Nontheistic agnostics consider God irrelevant at best, but take no position on the definitive question of whether God exists at all. Such people are those who choose no faith at all. Everyone else -- believers, fideists (I would prefer to call myself a "theistic agnostic"), and "hard atheists" -- are operating on faith, either for or against.
/Brian
Now, he uses the term nontheistic agnosticism. This is what atheism is. It has been highjacked by people who are anti-theists(they are religious in this IMO) but do not want to call themselves 'anti' anything.
Theists==Agnostic||Atheist||Agnostic==Anti-thei
Agnostics sit on the fences, some lean toward theism, some lean toward Anti-theism. True atheists are in the DMZ. We are the Switzerland of religion. I want so bad to say "we don't care" but that's not it, but at the same time that's it exactly. Very difficult to explain in a very binary issue.
/. will likely close out this discussion soon. If you would like to continue it you may email me at ninjalex@NbellOSsouthPA.Mnet (remove the NOSPAM obviously)
--Alex
Hey, I can do this all day. I don't mind feeding trolls once in awhile.
My humility extends to my recommendation that you reevaluate your standard for truth. The invincibility of your ignorance with regard to the flaws of how you think demonstrates a lack of awareness of the capacity to do that. Your faith is, for lack of a better word, blind.
You sure read a lot into my thought process from a total of 4 lines of text. Faith? Faith? Atheism is not about faith. Perhaps you are referring to anti-theists? A(theism)==not. A(theism)!=anti. Not theist is not the same as anti-theist. You were born an atheist, but were taught dogma. I prefer to skip the dogma.
Not only is atheism a belief and an idea, but it is distinguished among ideas in that its fundamental characteristic is applied to others. It is by nature, therefore, a belief which can only exist in as much as it is forced upon others.
In a word, bullshit. One more time for the cheap seats: Atheism is not an idea. It is a non-idea. As to forced upon others, how many times were you drug off to atheism church as a child? How many atheist have knocked on your door trying to convert you?
It bears mention that the only defense you've raised outside of trying to bolster the "platform of Absolute Knowledge of the Universe" has been the emotional statement quoted above. Also, you have characterized my criticisms of the platform principle as trying to prove"a superiority complex" on the part of atheists. I thought the underpinning of atheism is the iron adherence to reason. It is interesting that someone so ostensibly dedicated to reason is capable of being so guided by emotion.
This gave you away as trolling. Good job feeding it though. Never anywhere have I said I was trying to bolster "platform of Absolute Knowledge of the Universe." Nice job trying to put words in my mouth however. I did not pin the superiority complex issue on you. That was all your doing:
Excerpt from the catechism, verse (hehe) 2:
Their arguments are therefore intrinsically superior and not subject to question.
Atheists are not robots. We do not desire to be. Emotion is part of the human condition. Again, atheism has no iron underpinnings. It is about the lack of faith in deities. Nothing more, nothing less. Notice how I said "lack," but didn't say "disbelief." A very crucial difference between atheists and anti-theists.
That wasn't my point at all. Debate atheism to your heart's content. However, you will not be debating an idea, rather a non-idea. It's more akin to debating what's written on a blank piece of paper.
As an aside, pointing fingers while claiming that something has a superiority complex while quoting one's opinions as fact hardly portrays humble intentions.
My goal is to pull atheism off its pedestal and place it in the arena of ideas.
Atheism is not an idea. Take a chalkboard and put a big label across the top, "RELIGION." Leave it blank. Do not write in "god," "pink unicorn," or "NONE." That's atheism.
Now all he needs to do is order a chia pet and put a layer of dirt and seeds on the foam.
The only computer that requires a weedeater for maintance.
2% isn't that much in normal electronic terms. But when it comes to frequency 2% might as well be 50%. I worked with a guy who was retired FCC. He used to talk about checking radio stations(mostly it was a discussion about old test equipment). He said they were only allowed 5Khz deviation for their carrier. At 100Mhz that works out to way less than 1% and that was in the 1960's. Most base clocks in transmitters are based on 5 or 10MHz and converted from there. It is VERY common to see 5 X 10E-8 tolerances. That's 5 millihertz @ 10Mhz, which translates to 240 millihertz at 2.4GHz. Granted doublers and triplers add error as well, but even if it increased the error by a factor of 10(way over actual) would give you 2.4hertz at 2.4Ghz. That's all Xmitter side. The problems are different for receivers. Even so I don't see 5Mhz offset(taking into account the bandwidth only gives 5MHz separation) causing problems. I think their main problem is they can't make a receiver sensitive enough to use a 0 gain(omnidirectional) antenna to receive satellite feeds. Sounds to me like they are whining to compensate for a bad design to begin with.
--Alex
Isn't Sony's market cap jusr for Sony America? Does is count all their holding in Japan that are traded on the Neiki(sp?) exchange?
--Alex
I did. No mod points since. No more meta-mod link at the top of the page for me either. Oh well, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
--Alex
I think Agilent is in the crapper because when the spinoff took place, their customer service SUCKED(I'm not aware that it has gotten better, new job, don't deal with them directly anymore). Right after they split they wanted to charge the company I worked for $100 to talk to tech support, this on a signal generator that was still under warranty. HP has been getting by on reputation for 10 years now. People had to wake up sooner or later.
--Alex
It'd be square if it was terminated properly. Funny thing about most EE's though, they can do trig in their head but need an instruction manual to tie their shoes.
--Alex
Played any I76 lately d00d?
Warning: Rant that is probably partially off-topic.
Everytime I read a story like this, or stories about another school shooting I keep coming back to the same thought: Everytime they tighten up the rules after some incident it only gets worse.
Kids (males especially) from 12-17 have a natural instinct to assert thier independence. It's part of becoming an adult. Most of the things they do, and I did in my time, are just plain stupid, but the punishments have gotten so far out of whack it is ridiculous. There is no release for this aggression now that won't have them end up under a jail somewhere. Short non-scientific comparsion:
- We used to toilet paper yards on halloween, if we got caught we had to clean it up and do yard work for the victim. Nowadays a kid would spend a night in juvie, have 30 days community service and have to pay a fine.
- Graffiti, same deal, clean it, plus some you didn't do as well. Today in some cases it's a felony in California.
- Get caught with a beer, if you were driving you were screwed, if not, pour it out and the parents got called. Today, no license till you are 21, then you might get it if you are out of juvie in time.
Teens are already in enough of a pressure cooker. Every new zero tolerence policy that is applied like a wet blanket making shooting a spitball the equivelent of shooting a stinger missle down the hall only makes the pressure go up a few psi. If we keep this up it is only going to get worse. More kids killing themselves and each other.
I don't care much for the phrase "kids will be kids," but at those ages we have to stop treating them like criminals for petty little annoying shit. And before you troll with "well murder is just annoying" save your typing, we know the difference assholes.
If this kid broke into the school's system he should have received a punishment more suited to the crime. 10 days? I'd like to know the specifics of the whole deal. No disrespect to foo's post earlier, but it smells funny to me, and I don't believe those accounts. Sounds too much like a warped rehashed rumor.
--ninjalex
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So I tap the old back button to return to slashdot. Only thier main page hijacks it. No backing up from the site. While the pulldown back menu got me out unscathed, fucking with *my* back button?? It's exit only Pal!
how many nanoseconds till M$ pulled the plug on office for Macs?
Gives a new meaning to s l o w news day.
SDG&E (distributor) is owned by Sempra Energy(Producer). Sempra Energy sells wholesale power to SDG&E. While SDG&E whines about losing money, Sempra dramatically increases it's profits. As I see it Sempra is raping its subsidary company until SDG&E is allowed to increase prices, at which time Sempra will make even more money.
Funny how back in july when my power bill(for 525KwH) was over $150 they were reporting 34% growth. Now that retail prices have been capped, Sempra is still projecting higher earnings.
Add to all this, last week when CA had a state stage 3 emergency(power reserves drop below 2% of availble power) 1 THIRD of California's production capacity was off line for "routine maintenance or other factors."
It's not about low production, it's about greed.
--Alex
Its stuff like this that makes me want to be a parent, just so I can participate in the educational system and tell some those idiots to get their head out of their ass. Of course, I could just social engineer my way to become a school administrator and accomplish the same goals. Judging from what I've seen, I probably exceed the qualifications for the job.
I hear you, but as a parent, it doesn't matter. Morons outnumber people with a clue 5 to 1 at school board meetings. It's much like being a little different was in high school, no matter how logical your position, you get shouted down by people who can't think for themselves that are doing just what the 6 o'clock news told them to do. Becoming a parent doesn't make a stupid person any more intelligent unfortunately.
How much will actually make it to the water, vice burning up?
I appreciate your sentiment for Mr. Hewlett. For most test equipment HP couldn't be beat. Agilent makes good stuff now, they are just a pain to deal with. That said, HP scopes have always sucked. The 545xx series digital scopes sucked, and their newer models haven't gotten much better. If TEK has lost scope market share, they've lost it to Fluke with it's line of scopemeters, not HP.
Still it's amazing how far one company has gone from having the 200CD oscillator as thier only product. It was a sad day when the spun the test and measurement division off into Agilent. Kinda like the company has forgotten where it came from.
Alex
I get 5-10 hits a day from spammers trying to hit port 1080. On a stock win98 system I'd be a unknowing little spam relay. I also get 3-4 scans a day from @home's 'security' boxes looking at port 119. Using a Linux box as a firewall/router helps with most script kiddies, and all the 'security scans,' but if someone really wants, they'll get in. I don't think that's @home's problem. If we put our boxes' security in thier hands, there goes what little freedom of use we have now, considering the midevil AUP that is in place. The service would become nothing more that REAL fast WebTV.
Did you read the law there genius? You might wanna try again
No, but the FCC should be concerned with citizen's rights.
Why do so many people self identify as a "consumer"? 10 years ago that word wasn't used except to describe someone sitting at the dinner table. Where exactly did we stop being citizens, or even customers?
I think on a subconsious level it is easier for groups/businesses/government to trample over our rights when we are thought of as consumers. It has such a parasitic tone to it, as if we need them more than they need us.
Funny how a small change in terminology can swing the power base.
Now they can assemble their very own Natalie Portmans(Portmen?) from common household items like hot grits and raw potatoes!
U.S. Navy and Marine electronics schools, and technical manuals use E as the symbol for voltage applied. I saw another post in this thread where U was used and I thought it was a typo! :)
Also, it's not AC, it's pulsed DC, not the same thing. Trons don't run the other way when the voltage drops without a reverse in potential.
Ever notice how people get pissed when they see themselves as the butt of the joke? I wonder if that was the case here. Maybe he had to call tech support because he forgot to hook up his video cable or something.