But on the contrar, Internet Explorer IS running. Just take a look one day at the similarities between the Explorer, and the Internet Explorer. I think you will find that they are one in the same. This is Microsoft's reason for not being able to remove Internet Explorer from Windows. Now the question remains of why they weren't forced to remove the desktop icon for IE. The DOJ really dropped the ball for us here..
Actually.. the whole education department of the state of Kentucky runs under a 10.0.0.0/8 network, and we don't seem to have that big of a problem with any load at all.. of course, we have a lot of dns servers (one in every district) and domain controllers (AD network *rolls eyes*), so if they woulda put any thought behind it, probably shouldnt have been a problem... *besides, they probably use 10.0.0.0/8 to break down via department (for example, all of the school districts in kentucky have their own 10.x.x.x block usually... and in fact, I believe our district alone is allocated 10.16.x.x through 10.18.x.x, and we barely have 600 machines....)*
I didnt mean to imply anything was wrong with NT kernel.. it's just M$ has a tradition of changing things.. and they've had a really sharp eye on linux lately.
As for the Mach comment..... Fuck you dude.. I'm fuckin tired of people playing this card... it's fucking BSD all over it.......
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There's a small problem with that.. M$ will lose a lot more ground to us if they do that. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest, most overwhelming problem to desktop linux is GUI. If my gut's telling me right, I'm betting that M$ will move to a BSD kernel variant like Mac OS X did, and simply port their GUI over top of it. Then, who knows what will happen to the NT and 9x kernels, they might get open sourced after all.. but not until Bill Gates dies....... or hell freezes over, whichever happens first.
Actually, at our K-12 setup, it's still true that the 98 decision blows, but there's plenty of advantages to moving to AD. For one, it allows our students to store information in their own, private folders, on a remote, secure server. One student can't access another's files, but the teachers all have access to what the students are saving. Makes doing papers a breeze.
Two, it allows us to track what users are breaking the usage policy. Our proxy is configured to log IP's for machines that go to any site, then the proxy's logs are sniffed by a program, and when an "Odd" one pops, it sends us an email telling us what user account logged on. Simple.
There are a lot of disadvantages to using 98 for us, because of the incompatibilies to AD.. but we can't migrate many machines because the hardwares simply too pitiful to take it.. Losing 98 support basically kills these machines for good, or until I can convence administration that moving to Linux would be a cheap and easy step....
I've actually wondered a bit about this myself, but why can't we extend it a bit...
Why can't we make a set of librarys per archetecture, per UI, so that the application is transparent to the UI? Kinda hard to explain, but it's simple. Make a layer in-bewteen the UI (be it Mac, Windows, KDE, Gnome, etc.) and the actual program itself. Make the API common between all the platforms so that the "program" can ask the widget interpreter to "draw a button here", and the widget interpreter can tell the UI that it wants a button drawn here. May lag the program a little bit, but at least all apps would look native (even between GNOME and KDE).
Not to still Starship's thunder, but I've actually been thinking about this for a while now, ever since working on the UserLinux project, and finding that nobody could choose between KDE and GNOME. I like both, they both let me get work done, it's just the programs between the two sides are completely different (ie, KDE's got lots of productivity software, office, etc, and GNOME has more of the other stuff, games, instant messangers, etc). Maybe this is a project worth starting afterall.....
This makes no sense to me, especially where they could simply ship it with Firebird and make the web experience seem faster. Combine that with the dialup compression.. you could seriously convence older dialup users that it's actually a whole different service.
This is particually devistating to our technology department as we just installed Windows 98 on 38 Dells to go in our computer lab and around the school... Microsoft should have provided us with a little warning before we purchased the licensing, or at least offer us an upgrade to the license to install 2000 pro.....
With IBM's awesome new PowerPC chip, the whole MacOS X push, the way Apple is really making it's way back into mainstream, and now this push to make x86 even less nerd friendly... is the next big computer movement heading toward Apple?? I think it may be really possible to see a few years down the road, IBM back on top.. thanks to Microsoft....
Smart Playlists is what did it for me. Being able to categorize my music by how much I listen to it and my favorite artists instead of having to add each and every song by hand is a great time saver. Maybe the dudes over at nullsoft can borrow this idea...
Hey, at least now people can poison themselves eating devil fruit instead of smoking and getting lung cancer... this has gotta be highly marketable to those wanting to kick the habit.. easier to kick eating the tomato than smoking a cigarette... and probably hella cheaper too.
The first thing I noticed is just how much it looks like Microsoft Office. With that degree of visual compatibility, you could probably drop it in place with MS Office and users not even notice the difference....
Looks like we actually have a competitor now guys..
True, I was thinking applications, but I was also thinking of like the sony clie and it's color lcd monitor... That would be extremely handy, but im not paying 500$ for it without a hard drive and some capabilites of music....
Why can't they merge these two devices? How hard would it really be to strap a 15 gig hard drive and lithium battery to the back of an existing pda board, add an mp3 decoder and make a really small, lightweight portable device that you can listen to music on. The iPod is definitely the leader on this.. but where it's a black and white lcd, and it's small, your productivity is pretty much nil. Add this feature and it's the next purchase I make (along with some of that nicely priced iTunes songs...)
why do companies still think it's acceptable to integrate things like 56k modems, when it's a centrino capable laptop, meaning it can be fully wireless. also noted is the lack of gigabit nic, as this is starting to make it's way into offices, however slowly.
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beside that, it sounds like a great laptop, now if only i could afford it...
Heh, the only thing I can think that would be worthy is giving me Fiber to my house;), that'd be really nice:-D.. but more likely they'd just lay more copper to shore up the interconnecting sections..
What I'd really love to see: a new, non-profit organization ran.com/.net gTLD root server. This is the only thing I could think of that'd be worthy for everyone to pay taxes to get.. and even then I wouldn't want to pay taxes to get it, I'd much rather donate 50$ all at once... and I'm sure a lot of people share my sentements on this one...
I don't believe their should be taxes on things sold on the internet.. that's one of the only advantages the internet has (other than shopping from home). If taxes were there, I would imagine most internet stores would have to close.. thing's would just be too expensive to buy online, then have shipped to your house. Then you run into problems.. think of Amazon.com. Which state gets the taxes? Is it a federal tax? What about people buying things internationally, will they be taxed too?
No, I just believe it isn't time for internet sales taxes. Our economy is hurt enough, we don't need extra taxes on one of the best performing markets. State taxes are bad enough (and I say this hailing from Kentucky.. 6% isn't that bad.. but being a college student, every penny counts.....)
I'm not sure about this, because I'm not exactly sure how the program works, but from what I understand, the main whoop about it is that it simply uses the ram as a hard drive to highly increase speeds. I saw some users on here talking about how it would end up being slow, especially for millions of users, where most of the data on those users would just sit in the ram and eat up space. Well, wouldn't any well designed operating system swap out the memory pages that haven't been accessed in ages? It sorta defeats the purpose of having it in ram, but at the same time, it works. Also, a well maintained database wouldn't keep records that were that old, but instead would store them to a more permanate solution such as a Tape Backup or a hard drive array.
Furthermore, ram is dirt cheap, and with the advent and steady rise of Flash RAM and mram (not sure if this is what it called, but it performs like dram, but like flash ram, won't lose data without being refreshed every so often by converting the electrical impulses into magnetics), but you should be able to fit enough of this ram into a machine (ie, look at the virginia cluster, cut it in half, and you should have about the power), back it up to a hard drive array every so often, and poof, there you have an enterprise solution. I really like this idea.. good work Klaus!
But at the same time, the Level Three Cache is MUCH "further away" from the core in the sense that it takes much longer for data to travel accross the lines of the processor to get to it. Level Two isn't much closer, but that little edge does make a huge difference in this case. Game developers now have room to seriously push their applications because the processor will be able to cache more (data||instructions). It should vastly improve scores on very memory intensive apps.
On the other hand, I would much rather see them quadruple the size of the Level One Cache. This would improve performance on these processors, but at the same time, without the extra registers that a 64-bit chip would have, these improvements are limited by their usefulness, not to mention they would take up loads more valuable core real estate. I can't wait to see Intel move to a 64-bit chip with a 2 meg level 2 and maybe a 128k level one... we'd start to see chips FLY....
Anyone know the Kernel version of this release? I tried Knoppix, but due to Alan Cox's "patch" my sound doesnt work under linux (the only think keeping me on windows as of now). If this release is running 2.4.22, My switch is complete:D
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But on the contrar, Internet Explorer IS running. Just take a look one day at the similarities between the Explorer, and the Internet Explorer. I think you will find that they are one in the same. This is Microsoft's reason for not being able to remove Internet Explorer from Windows. Now the question remains of why they weren't forced to remove the desktop icon for IE. The DOJ really dropped the ball for us here..
Actually.. the whole education department of the state of Kentucky runs under a 10.0.0.0/8 network, and we don't seem to have that big of a problem with any load at all.. of course, we have a lot of dns servers (one in every district) and domain controllers (AD network *rolls eyes*), so if they woulda put any thought behind it, probably shouldnt have been a problem... *besides, they probably use 10.0.0.0/8 to break down via department (for example, all of the school districts in kentucky have their own 10.x.x.x block usually... and in fact, I believe our district alone is allocated 10.16.x.x through 10.18.x.x, and we barely have 600 machines....)*
I didnt mean to imply anything was wrong with NT kernel.. it's just M$ has a tradition of changing things.. and they've had a really sharp eye on linux lately.
As for the Mach comment..... Fuck you dude.. I'm fuckin tired of people playing this card... it's fucking BSD all over it.......
There's a small problem with that.. M$ will lose a lot more ground to us if they do that. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest, most overwhelming problem to desktop linux is GUI. If my gut's telling me right, I'm betting that M$ will move to a BSD kernel variant like Mac OS X did, and simply port their GUI over top of it. Then, who knows what will happen to the NT and 9x kernels, they might get open sourced after all.. but not until Bill Gates dies....... or hell freezes over, whichever happens first.
Actually, at our K-12 setup, it's still true that the 98 decision blows, but there's plenty of advantages to moving to AD. For one, it allows our students to store information in their own, private folders, on a remote, secure server. One student can't access another's files, but the teachers all have access to what the students are saving. Makes doing papers a breeze.
Two, it allows us to track what users are breaking the usage policy. Our proxy is configured to log IP's for machines that go to any site, then the proxy's logs are sniffed by a program, and when an "Odd" one pops, it sends us an email telling us what user account logged on. Simple.
There are a lot of disadvantages to using 98 for us, because of the incompatibilies to AD.. but we can't migrate many machines because the hardwares simply too pitiful to take it.. Losing 98 support basically kills these machines for good, or until I can convence administration that moving to Linux would be a cheap and easy step....
you might want to read about the xbox, neat new (computer) gaming console.. it can do all of this on a 4th of the hardware ;)
I've actually wondered a bit about this myself, but why can't we extend it a bit...
Why can't we make a set of librarys per archetecture, per UI, so that the application is transparent to the UI? Kinda hard to explain, but it's simple. Make a layer in-bewteen the UI (be it Mac, Windows, KDE, Gnome, etc.) and the actual program itself. Make the API common between all the platforms so that the "program" can ask the widget interpreter to "draw a button here", and the widget interpreter can tell the UI that it wants a button drawn here. May lag the program a little bit, but at least all apps would look native (even between GNOME and KDE).
Not to still Starship's thunder, but I've actually been thinking about this for a while now, ever since working on the UserLinux project, and finding that nobody could choose between KDE and GNOME. I like both, they both let me get work done, it's just the programs between the two sides are completely different (ie, KDE's got lots of productivity software, office, etc, and GNOME has more of the other stuff, games, instant messangers, etc). Maybe this is a project worth starting afterall.....
This makes no sense to me, especially where they could simply ship it with Firebird and make the web experience seem faster. Combine that with the dialup compression.. you could seriously convence older dialup users that it's actually a whole different service.
Times have see seen that headline... "The Life of a Spammer", "a day in the life of a spammer", "a spammers life".... *sigh*
This is particually devistating to our technology department as we just installed Windows 98 on 38 Dells to go in our computer lab and around the school... Microsoft should have provided us with a little warning before we purchased the licensing, or at least offer us an upgrade to the license to install 2000 pro.....
With IBM's awesome new PowerPC chip, the whole MacOS X push, the way Apple is really making it's way back into mainstream, and now this push to make x86 even less nerd friendly... is the next big computer movement heading toward Apple?? I think it may be really possible to see a few years down the road, IBM back on top.. thanks to Microsoft....
Smart Playlists is what did it for me. Being able to categorize my music by how much I listen to it and my favorite artists instead of having to add each and every song by hand is a great time saver. Maybe the dudes over at nullsoft can borrow this idea...
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!!!!!! and you thought verisign was bad... sheesh..
Hey, at least now people can poison themselves eating devil fruit instead of smoking and getting lung cancer... this has gotta be highly marketable to those wanting to kick the habit.. easier to kick eating the tomato than smoking a cigarette... and probably hella cheaper too.
The first thing I noticed is just how much it looks like Microsoft Office. With that degree of visual compatibility, you could probably drop it in place with MS Office and users not even notice the difference....
Looks like we actually have a competitor now guys..
True, I was thinking applications, but I was also thinking of like the sony clie and it's color lcd monitor... That would be extremely handy, but im not paying 500$ for it without a hard drive and some capabilites of music....
Why can't they merge these two devices? How hard would it really be to strap a 15 gig hard drive and lithium battery to the back of an existing pda board, add an mp3 decoder and make a really small, lightweight portable device that you can listen to music on. The iPod is definitely the leader on this.. but where it's a black and white lcd, and it's small, your productivity is pretty much nil. Add this feature and it's the next purchase I make (along with some of that nicely priced iTunes songs...)
why do companies still think it's acceptable to integrate things like 56k modems, when it's a centrino capable laptop, meaning it can be fully wireless. also noted is the lack of gigabit nic, as this is starting to make it's way into offices, however slowly.
</petpeeve>
beside that, it sounds like a great laptop, now if only i could afford it...
Well I hope the B(lue)S(creen)(of)D(eath) is dying.. that stupid BSoD is really friggin annoying.. especially on this Windows ME box.....
Heh, the only thing I can think that would be worthy is giving me Fiber to my house ;), that'd be really nice :-D.. but more likely they'd just lay more copper to shore up the interconnecting sections..
.com/.net gTLD root server. This is the only thing I could think of that'd be worthy for everyone to pay taxes to get.. and even then I wouldn't want to pay taxes to get it, I'd much rather donate 50$ all at once... and I'm sure a lot of people share my sentements on this one...
What I'd really love to see: a new, non-profit organization ran
I don't believe their should be taxes on things sold on the internet.. that's one of the only advantages the internet has (other than shopping from home). If taxes were there, I would imagine most internet stores would have to close.. thing's would just be too expensive to buy online, then have shipped to your house. Then you run into problems.. think of Amazon.com. Which state gets the taxes? Is it a federal tax? What about people buying things internationally, will they be taxed too?
No, I just believe it isn't time for internet sales taxes. Our economy is hurt enough, we don't need extra taxes on one of the best performing markets. State taxes are bad enough (and I say this hailing from Kentucky.. 6% isn't that bad.. but being a college student, every penny counts.....)
I'm not sure about this, because I'm not exactly sure how the program works, but from what I understand, the main whoop about it is that it simply uses the ram as a hard drive to highly increase speeds. I saw some users on here talking about how it would end up being slow, especially for millions of users, where most of the data on those users would just sit in the ram and eat up space. Well, wouldn't any well designed operating system swap out the memory pages that haven't been accessed in ages? It sorta defeats the purpose of having it in ram, but at the same time, it works. Also, a well maintained database wouldn't keep records that were that old, but instead would store them to a more permanate solution such as a Tape Backup or a hard drive array.
Furthermore, ram is dirt cheap, and with the advent and steady rise of Flash RAM and mram (not sure if this is what it called, but it performs like dram, but like flash ram, won't lose data without being refreshed every so often by converting the electrical impulses into magnetics), but you should be able to fit enough of this ram into a machine (ie, look at the virginia cluster, cut it in half, and you should have about the power), back it up to a hard drive array every so often, and poof, there you have an enterprise solution. I really like this idea.. good work Klaus!
But at the same time, the Level Three Cache is MUCH "further away" from the core in the sense that it takes much longer for data to travel accross the lines of the processor to get to it. Level Two isn't much closer, but that little edge does make a huge difference in this case. Game developers now have room to seriously push their applications because the processor will be able to cache more (data||instructions). It should vastly improve scores on very memory intensive apps.
On the other hand, I would much rather see them quadruple the size of the Level One Cache. This would improve performance on these processors, but at the same time, without the extra registers that a 64-bit chip would have, these improvements are limited by their usefulness, not to mention they would take up loads more valuable core real estate. I can't wait to see Intel move to a 64-bit chip with a 2 meg level 2 and maybe a 128k level one... we'd start to see chips FLY....
Anyone know the Kernel version of this release? I tried Knoppix, but due to Alan Cox's "patch" my sound doesnt work under linux (the only think keeping me on windows as of now). If this release is running 2.4.22, My switch is complete :D
Fix the user.