My kyocera 7135 is the right size, and plays the right 'click click cheep' when ever the flip is opened.. (yes, I am a nerd, and yes, people in convenience stores do stare)
apparently the winner in the "lets get sponsored to look at porn" contest was from the georgetown law review, it's titled "Marketing Pornography on the Information Superhighway: A Survey of 917,410 Images, Description, Short Stories, and Animations Downloaded 8.5 Million Times by Consumers in over 2000 Cities in Forty Countries, Provinces, and Territories." from around 1995! but I can't find a copy of the actual piece, just places that refer to it.
what good is a dome that has no access?
I'd much rather see a dome construction demo/sample that made allowances for a DOOR or WINDOW..
I can make a dome with a hot glue gun going in circles.. (actually, my family made really neat snowflake looking ornaments pushing hotglue gun glue into a bowl of water) but how do you move the head around a door frame? show me that!
some chain hotels are built using premodular components today.. entire guestrooms, with plumbing and all. the make'em, put them on a barge, and install them on a foundation(i.e. in NYC it's a godsend)
you could bury them, and they slowly sped up with power on, and at death, the speedup motor became a generator.. I remember pricing one out at the time for work, to keep us juiced for a day would cost 20k + installation...
which method is likely to come up with the more innovative solution?
you think this is a bad idea? they have how many engineers and people working on the problem? and if they used a 100 million and a team of lockheed martin?
and you think this is WRONG?
why not stick a magnet to the bottom of the solar panels? Both rovers carry magnets supplied by Denmark for experiments to analyze martian dust. Dust covers much of Mars' surface and hangs in the atmosphere, occasionally rising into giant dust storms. One of the magnets is designed to exclude any magnetic dust particles from landing in the center of a target area. During Spirit's time on Mars, dust has accumulated on other parts of the target while the center has remained "probably the cleanest area anywhere on the surface of the rover," said Dr. Morten Madsen, science team member from the Center for Planetary Science, Copenhagen, Denmark.
"Most, if not all of the dust particles in the martian atmosphere are magnetic," Madsen said. Another of the magnets is within reach of the rover's robotic arm. Examination of dust on the target by instruments on the end of the arm will soon yield further information about the composition of the dust, he said.
Re:Has the atmosphere DRASTICALLY changed in 20 yr
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Well let's see, the link I gave says (from viking)
Surface pressure: 6.36 mb at mean radius (variable from 4.0 to 8.7 mb depending on season)
[6.9 mb to 9 mb (Viking 1 Lander site)] Surface density: ~0.020 kg/m3 Scale height: 11.1 km Total mass of atmosphere: ~2.5 x 1016 kg Average temperature: ~210 K (-63 C) Diurnal temperature range: 184 K to 242 K (-89 to -31 C) (Viking 1 Lander site) Wind speeds: 2-7 m/s (summer), 5-10 m/s (fall), 17-30 m/s (dust storm) (Viking Lander sites) Mean molecular weight: 43.34 g/mole Atmospheric composition (by volume):
Major : Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 95.32% ; Nitrogen (N2) - 2.7%
Argon (Ar) - 1.6%; Oxygen (O2) - 0.13%; Carbon Monoxide (CO) - 0.08%
Minor (ppm): Water (H2O) - 210; Nitrogen Oxide (NO) - 100; Neon (Ne) - 2.5;
Hydrogen-Deuterium-Oxygen (HDO) - 0.85; Krypton (Kr) - 0.3;
Xenon (Xe) - 0.08
now- from pathfinderMeteorology It was mid-summer in the northern hemisphere of Mars when Pathfinder landed. The Pathfinder Lander is at 19.33 N, 33.55 W. The Viking 1 Lander touched down at 22 N, 50 W, 2 km below datum elevation on 20 July 1976, and is used for many of the comparisons below. The pressures measured over the first three days average about 6.75 mb, 10% to 20% smaller than those recorded by the Viking 1 Lander during the same season 21 years ago (note that this result is consistent with the elevation difference of about 100 meters between the Mars Pathfinder and Viking 1 landing sites). The pressure showed a slight decline over the first few weeks but is now starting to rise slowly. This rise should continue through December, 1997. The pressure rise is concurrent with the slow shrinking of the southern polar cap, now at its maximum extent, as the southern winter ends.
Temperatures measured from the top of the 1 meter mast on Mars Pathfinder varied from daily highs of about 260 K (+8 F) to lows of 196 K (-107 F). This is about 10 K degrees (18 F degrees) warmer than Viking 1 Lander measurements made at 1.6 meters. The sol-to-sol temperatures have been very repeatable over the first 30 sols, and should continue until about 60 sols after landing, after which they will start to show more variation.
Preliminary wind speed estimates give late evening and early morning prevailing winds from the SSE, which shifted in the early afternoon to be from the N to NE. This is very similar to what Viking 1 found at this time of year. During the day, winds were light at only a few km or miles per hour. At night the wind speed increased to about 10 to 20 mph (16 - 32 kph) from the south.
The repeatable weather patterns of northern summer found by Viking 1 have been verified by Pathfinder so far. These include diurnal (day-night) pressure changes and semi-diurnal changes by as much as 4.5% due to atmospheric thermal tides.
Interruptions in the normal pattern of temperature drops observed on a few nights may indicate water in the atmosphere is condensing as fog. Humidity measurements are planned later in the mission.
On sol 25, temperature sampling was done at 4-second intervals for the whole day. Temperature fluctuations by 15 to 20 K (30 to 40 degrees F) were observed over minutes or seconds at some periods, suggesting turbulent boundary-layer mixing between the warmer near-surface region and cooler layers above that. A "dust devil" was also detected passing by the lander on sol 25, and later high resolution sampling has detected more dust devil signatures.
More detailed information and historical weather reports are available at the Mars Pathfinder project weather page. Raw and reduced data are available online at http://atmos.nmsu.edu/PDS/data/mpam_0001/aareadme. htm
Pathfinder used a parachute... didn't anyon notice how hard it hit? the fact that pressure and temperatures change so mu
no- you missed my point- my ionic breeze has a negative charge to attract dust-- I propose a positve charge over the entire panel to expel dust.. wires as small as old fashioned rear window defroster's- on the very surface of the panels, giving off a positive electrical charge.
Has the atmosphere DRASTICALLY changed in 20 yrs?
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NASA's Viking Mission to Mars was composed of two spacecraft, Viking 1 and Viking 2, each consisting of an orbiter and a lander. The primary mission objectives were to obtain high resolution images of the Martian surface, characterize the structure and composition of the atmosphere and surface, and search for evidence of life. how does that mean they had no idea the air was so thin?
yes well, let's look at dell.com and consumer purchase
for me to buy XP retail-199 for me to buy XP pro retail-299...
for me to chose to go to pro from home on dell.com? 70$.. that's a major clue right there...
cover the panels with multiple layers of clear material, something between a a chunk of mica,and layers of saranwrap-- say, 10 layers, one atop the other- at the far end (out from the body) each layer is attached in the corners like a yoke (y shape from spindle to the corners) to a thread, when the top layer gets dusty, have a small motor reel in the thread- peeling away the top layer (which falls to the wayside) the next thread being under the layer above just removed.. (not flopping around)
all it requires is a motor with a spindle, monofiliment, and the layers of clear material.
cyberdildonics... you'll find a lot more than just a 'joystick' that's gender specific..
warning, some mental images, you can't ever get away from..
My kyocera 7135 is the right size, and plays the right 'click click cheep' when ever the flip is opened.. (yes, I am a nerd, and yes, people in convenience stores do stare)
apparently the winner in the "lets get sponsored to look at porn" contest was from the georgetown law review, it's titled "Marketing Pornography on the Information Superhighway: A Survey of 917,410 Images, Description, Short Stories, and Animations Downloaded 8.5 Million Times by Consumers in over 2000 Cities in Forty Countries, Provinces, and Territories." from around 1995! but I can't find a copy of the actual piece, just places that refer to it.
if the choice is participation or jail- it's no longer 'free'
note to kids at home- don't post on slashdot while you are on the phone
(sorry)
some of the 'special skills' are translator..
where do you think some of them work?
strangely, animal testing is often relevant.
Kyocera 7135- (no add'l modem required)
I'd much rather see a dome construction demo/sample that made allowances for a DOOR or WINDOW..
I can make a dome with a hot glue gun going in circles.. (actually, my family made really neat snowflake looking ornaments pushing hotglue gun glue into a bowl of water) but how do you move the head around a door frame? show me that!
some chain hotels are built using premodular components today.. entire guestrooms, with plumbing and all. the make'em, put them on a barge, and install them on a foundation(i.e. in NYC it's a godsend)
my definition of season-- if they sell tickets
you could bury them, and they slowly sped up with power on, and at death, the speedup motor became a generator.. I remember pricing one out at the time for work, to keep us juiced for a day would cost 20k + installation...
I filled my truck bed, drove 30 miles, and got $40.00.. (paid for my gas and lunch and a bit more to boot)
you think this is a bad idea? they have how many engineers and people working on the problem? and if they used a 100 million and a team of lockheed martin?
and you think this is WRONG?
that make me regret the $500 I dropped this morning on a Palm OS device.
Damn, could I have a little warning in the future PLEASE?
here's a classic-
my boss- "meet me at the (name of a shop) between 2 and 4:30"
me-"which-2 or 4:30"
boss- "I don't know, I'll be there between 2&4:30"
yea, I keep ENTIRE books on my handheld.. I also read them, and re-read them..
why not stick a magnet to the bottom of the solar panels?
Both rovers carry magnets supplied by Denmark for experiments to analyze martian dust. Dust covers much of Mars' surface and hangs in the atmosphere, occasionally rising into giant dust storms. One of the magnets is designed to exclude any magnetic dust particles from landing in the center of a target area. During Spirit's time on Mars, dust has accumulated on other parts of the target while the center has remained "probably the cleanest area anywhere on the surface of the rover," said Dr. Morten Madsen, science team member from the Center for Planetary Science, Copenhagen, Denmark.
"Most, if not all of the dust particles in the martian atmosphere are magnetic," Madsen said. Another of the magnets is within reach of the rover's robotic arm. Examination of dust on the target by instruments on the end of the arm will soon yield further information about the composition of the dust, he said.
Surface pressure: 6.36 mb at mean radius (variable from 4.0 to 8.7 mb depending on season)
[6.9 mb to 9 mb (Viking 1 Lander site)]
Surface density: ~0.020 kg/m3
Scale height: 11.1 km
Total mass of atmosphere: ~2.5 x 1016 kg
Average temperature: ~210 K (-63 C)
Diurnal temperature range: 184 K to 242 K (-89 to -31 C) (Viking 1 Lander site)
Wind speeds: 2-7 m/s (summer), 5-10 m/s (fall), 17-30 m/s (dust storm) (Viking Lander sites)
Mean molecular weight: 43.34 g/mole
Atmospheric composition (by volume):
Major : Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 95.32% ; Nitrogen (N2) - 2.7%
Argon (Ar) - 1.6%; Oxygen (O2) - 0.13%; Carbon Monoxide (CO) - 0.08%
Minor (ppm): Water (H2O) - 210; Nitrogen Oxide (NO) - 100; Neon (Ne) - 2.5;
Hydrogen-Deuterium-Oxygen (HDO) - 0.85; Krypton (Kr) - 0.3;
Xenon (Xe) - 0.08
now- from pathfinder Meteorology
It was mid-summer in the northern hemisphere of Mars when Pathfinder landed. The Pathfinder Lander is at 19.33 N, 33.55 W. The Viking 1 Lander touched down at 22 N, 50 W, 2 km below datum elevation on 20 July 1976, and is used for many of the comparisons below.
The pressures measured over the first three days average about 6.75 mb, 10% to 20% smaller than those recorded by the Viking 1 Lander during the same season 21 years ago (note that this result is consistent with the elevation difference of about 100 meters between the Mars Pathfinder and Viking 1 landing sites). The pressure showed a slight decline over the first few weeks but is now starting to rise slowly. This rise should continue through December, 1997. The pressure rise is concurrent with the slow shrinking of the southern polar cap, now at its maximum extent, as the southern winter ends.
Temperatures measured from the top of the 1 meter mast on Mars Pathfinder varied from daily highs of about 260 K (+8 F) to lows of 196 K (-107 F). This is about 10 K degrees (18 F degrees) warmer than Viking 1 Lander measurements made at 1.6 meters. The sol-to-sol temperatures have been very repeatable over the first 30 sols, and should continue until about 60 sols after landing, after which they will start to show more variation.
Preliminary wind speed estimates give late evening and early morning prevailing winds from the SSE, which shifted in the early afternoon to be from the N to NE. This is very similar to what Viking 1 found at this time of year. During the day, winds were light at only a few km or miles per hour. At night the wind speed increased to about 10 to 20 mph (16 - 32 kph) from the south.
The repeatable weather patterns of northern summer found by Viking 1 have been verified by Pathfinder so far. These include diurnal (day-night) pressure changes and semi-diurnal changes by as much as 4.5% due to atmospheric thermal tides.
Interruptions in the normal pattern of temperature drops observed on a few nights may indicate water in the atmosphere is condensing as fog. Humidity measurements are planned later in the mission.
On sol 25, temperature sampling was done at 4-second intervals for the whole day. Temperature fluctuations by 15 to 20 K (30 to 40 degrees F) were observed over minutes or seconds at some periods, suggesting turbulent boundary-layer mixing between the warmer near-surface region and cooler layers above that. A "dust devil" was also detected passing by the lander on sol 25, and later high resolution sampling has detected more dust devil signatures.
More detailed information and historical weather reports are available at the Mars Pathfinder project weather page. Raw and reduced data are available online at http://atmos.nmsu.edu/PDS/data/mpam_0001/aareadme. htm
Pathfinder used a parachute... didn't anyon notice how hard it hit? the fact that pressure and temperatures change so mu
no- you missed my point- my ionic breeze has a negative charge to attract dust-- I propose a positve charge over the entire panel to expel dust.. wires as small as old fashioned rear window defroster's- on the very surface of the panels, giving off a positive electrical charge.
NASA's Viking Mission to Mars was composed of two spacecraft, Viking 1 and Viking 2, each consisting of an orbiter and a lander. The primary mission objectives were to obtain high resolution images of the Martian surface, characterize the structure and composition of the atmosphere and surface, and search for evidence of life.
how does that mean they had no idea the air was so thin?
the former.... paypal tells you this when you go to add netbank as your bank
wouldn't a positive charge on the surface of the panel keep dust away?
yes well, let's look at dell.com and consumer purchase
for me to buy XP retail-199 for me to buy XP pro retail-299...
for me to chose to go to pro from home on dell.com? 70$.. that's a major clue right there...
here's my lame solution..
cover the panels with multiple layers of clear material, something between a a chunk of mica,and layers of saranwrap-- say, 10 layers, one atop the other- at the far end (out from the body) each layer is attached in the corners like a yoke (y shape from spindle to the corners) to a thread, when the top layer gets dusty, have a small motor reel in the thread- peeling away the top layer (which falls to the wayside) the next thread being under the layer above just removed.. (not flopping around)
all it requires is a motor with a spindle, monofiliment, and the layers of clear material.
you do know there is a difference between cost and price?