Or maybe you name, addy and phone just aren't that "private". It's not like it's that easy to look up public information about someone . But hey, it's tough to work up that "irony" tag when there's nothing ironic...
The contention is that somehow by providing Name/Addy/Phone in order to download a datasheet, someone is "risking personal information" that might gain them the scrutiny of some nefarious government entity. But somehow the same person, for whom the same information is trivial to find (by, presumedly, the same nefarious people), writing a device driver and publishing it, is somehow less likely to be flagged as suspicious. It's a rubbish argument.
Evil Agent X: Look...some guy named Theo registered to download some crypto info. We better keep an eye on him.
Evil Agent Y: Hmm...funny, I did a google search and some guy named Theo wrote a device driver for that same chip a couple of years ago.
Evil Agent X: Yeah, but he didn't register, so he can't be much of a threat. Besides, all we have is his email address, full name, that he lives in Canada, pictures of him on his web site, his actual street address on his web site, oceans of email records...it's not like we could track him down or watch him or anything. Just forget about him....it's this Theo that filled out the form that we need to worry about.
By all means, let's pillor HP for dropping (finally) support for the HP3000. What's up HP? It was only introduced in late 1972. That was like, yeasterday! Thank gawd HP still supports the PDP-11, Data General has held in there with the Novas, GE & Honeywell are still changing the world with Multics and Xerox is happy to keep that Sigma in the back happily humming along. And I can still get Visicalc & dBase-II upgrades!
What a wonderful world! Everything lives FOR EVAH!
So you have an environment with requirements totally unlike the ones described in the article and needing none of the solutions illustrated in the article. Hey...thanks for letting us know. Maybe the other million Slashdot users with environments irrelevant to the post can let us know what they have as well.
1) He couldn't get the on-line application to work.
2) He's dumb enough to think because he couldn't get it to work, noone can.
3) He considers it an entitlement that the company change the way it handles applications because *he* can't get it to work.
4) He's self important enough that because the company won't change established procedure, it's a *civil rights* case.
The EOE is about race, religion, sex, color, age, national origin, or physical or mental disability, etc. Not education. It's perfectly legal for a company to require computer ability and minimum education level to get a job. We do it all the time (clue: read the want ads some time. See where it says "BS Degree Required"?).
Kroger however I feel that I am being denied my equal opportunity to gain employment due to the failings of a broken piece of software and hardware
Get. Over. Yourself.
I'm going to go out on a limb here. I bet Kroger is still hiring people. No...really, I bet they are. I'm betting that all the brokenness in the world isn't keeping people from getting through the on-line application and getting jobs.
Actually, I know this is true, since I shop at Kroger and there's always a new face. And you know what? I don't know how dumb you are, but I do know that a few of those new hires are not real bright. I mean, really really not bright. And yet they got through the on-line application. And got a job.
why do I need to know how to use a computer to stock shelves?
Because that's your prospective employers process. It's the little hurdle you have to get over to be considered for a job. And it's apparently a pretty good screener. If you can't manage to get through the application, there's good odds you'll have "issues" when faced with the really broken, mindnumbing and annoying parts of the actual job.
Pretty slick stuff and Sun's been doing it for about 5 years or so.
You mean smallish form factor diskless machines booting off of and running applications from a central server? Suns been doing that for more than 25 years. Try googling for "Sun 2/50".
You forgot about the usual quota of nutters who will post endlessly that they've already solved the problems, but the mathematicians don't understand their genius, want to suppress their genius, or both. Aliens may or may not be involved.
Woe be to the first person competent in the field who mistakenly rebuts said genius...as you will likely get to be the nutters singular obsessive object of hatred, held above all others. Your every utterance in the forum will demand the most vigourous (mostly ad homen) rebuttal. If you say the sky is blue, you will be told that you aren't competent to understand if the sky is blue or not. And you molest collies, so your opinion on the "blue sky problem" can't be regarded as credible.
Might as well go tell your department head, university president, anyone whose name appears near yours in a Google search, to expect a flood of correspondence detailing in exquisite, though totally bonkers, detail how you are unfit to teach math to first graders, much less where you are. Your penchant for molesting collies will be implied in varying degrees of ernestness.
Sounds like a peachy idea.
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Yeah...got that. It's still eye surgery.
One of my employees had RK. They (a university hospital, and one of the top RK shops around) screwed it up. I'll keep my glasses.
I could not have possibly said it better. Definately consistent with my involvement with large scale platform management.
Obviously, because customers aren't asking for it.
Or maybe you name, addy and phone just aren't that "private". It's not like it's that easy to look up public information about someone . But hey, it's tough to work up that "irony" tag when there's nothing ironic...
The contention is that somehow by providing Name/Addy/Phone in order to download a datasheet, someone is "risking personal information" that might gain them the scrutiny of some nefarious government entity. But somehow the same person, for whom the same information is trivial to find (by, presumedly, the same nefarious people), writing a device driver and publishing it, is somehow less likely to be flagged as suspicious. It's a rubbish argument.
Evil Agent X: Look...some guy named Theo registered to download some crypto info. We better keep an eye on him. Evil Agent Y: Hmm...funny, I did a google search and some guy named Theo wrote a device driver for that same chip a couple of years ago. Evil Agent X: Yeah, but he didn't register, so he can't be much of a threat. Besides, all we have is his email address, full name, that he lives in Canada, pictures of him on his web site, his actual street address on his web site, oceans of email records...it's not like we could track him down or watch him or anything. Just forget about him....it's this Theo that filled out the form that we need to worry about.
Create a "Lives in Parents Basement" tag and make it mandatory on anything from WoW. Filter out that tag, problem solved...:-)
Sorry...that doesn't work.
How many times does GRC.com need to be debunked before people stop linking to it?
You beat me to it. Well played!
And Counterstrike would suck.
Wow...if ever there was a site that screamed to be included in Schneier's Snake Oil Crypto page, this is it. Total rubbish.
Unless you pick IBM. Much VM/360 code can run on their latest and greatest mainframes. But oh man...it'll cost you.
I know Unix. Therefore, !Unix is bad.
Welcome to Slashdot. Come on in. Meet the folks. They're just like you.
What a wonderful world! Everything lives FOR EVAH!
I still crank up the Homeworld games periodically. They are still fun.
I tried that. I got tired of having to shovel poop out from under the raised floor.
So you have an environment with requirements totally unlike the ones described in the article and needing none of the solutions illustrated in the article. Hey...thanks for letting us know. Maybe the other million Slashdot users with environments irrelevant to the post can let us know what they have as well.
Apparently, saving the allowance his Mom gives him hasn't added up to the $75 or so needed for another 1GB of DDR2.
Looks like someone riled up Comic Book Guy...
1) He couldn't get the on-line application to work. 2) He's dumb enough to think because he couldn't get it to work, noone can. 3) He considers it an entitlement that the company change the way it handles applications because *he* can't get it to work. 4) He's self important enough that because the company won't change established procedure, it's a *civil rights* case.
That's why he's getting pummeled.
Thanks! That's the first laugh-out-loud thing I've read today.
The EOE is about race, religion, sex, color, age, national origin, or physical or mental disability, etc. Not education. It's perfectly legal for a company to require computer ability and minimum education level to get a job. We do it all the time (clue: read the want ads some time. See where it says "BS Degree Required"?).
Kroger however I feel that I am being denied my equal opportunity to gain employment due to the failings of a broken piece of software and hardware
Get. Over. Yourself.
I'm going to go out on a limb here. I bet Kroger is still hiring people. No...really, I bet they are. I'm betting that all the brokenness in the world isn't keeping people from getting through the on-line application and getting jobs.
Actually, I know this is true, since I shop at Kroger and there's always a new face. And you know what? I don't know how dumb you are, but I do know that a few of those new hires are not real bright. I mean, really really not bright. And yet they got through the on-line application. And got a job.
why do I need to know how to use a computer to stock shelves?
Because that's your prospective employers process. It's the little hurdle you have to get over to be considered for a job. And it's apparently a pretty good screener. If you can't manage to get through the application, there's good odds you'll have "issues" when faced with the really broken, mindnumbing and annoying parts of the actual job.
You mean smallish form factor diskless machines booting off of and running applications from a central server? Suns been doing that for more than 25 years. Try googling for "Sun 2/50".
I tell 'ya...kids these days...
You forgot about the usual quota of nutters who will post endlessly that they've already solved the problems, but the mathematicians don't understand their genius, want to suppress their genius, or both. Aliens may or may not be involved. Woe be to the first person competent in the field who mistakenly rebuts said genius...as you will likely get to be the nutters singular obsessive object of hatred, held above all others. Your every utterance in the forum will demand the most vigourous (mostly ad homen) rebuttal. If you say the sky is blue, you will be told that you aren't competent to understand if the sky is blue or not. And you molest collies, so your opinion on the "blue sky problem" can't be regarded as credible. Might as well go tell your department head, university president, anyone whose name appears near yours in a Google search, to expect a flood of correspondence detailing in exquisite, though totally bonkers, detail how you are unfit to teach math to first graders, much less where you are. Your penchant for molesting collies will be implied in varying degrees of ernestness. Sounds like a peachy idea.