Oh I can imagine a plenty of ways that would convince me that the god exists. For example if I met a guy that can bring my dead grandparents to life I'll certainly start considering that God as real. Or if he can undo Fukushima. Or World War II. You know what? I'll settle for "if he can cure stupidity, make politicians to adhere to Constitution and break the two-party system in US";-)
If someone wants a distro without systemd bad enough, someone will fork and then develop one.
Let's try s/distro/samba/:
If someone wants samba without systemd bad enough, someone will fork and then develop one.
Do you really think the a fork of samba can be created and maintained? Do you think that it is a problem to come up with other products that cannot be easily forked?
I too have some experience with SCO UX, HP UX, OSF/1 - when something was broken there, then it was broken. You could not really go and replace a DNS server with something else. Or the vi editor. Or syslog deamon. If it wasn't there you could wait for next release and cough up the money or you were SOL. You also could not take a package for HP-UX and install it on a BSD. Or recompile. What makes linux great is that if you don't like the component X then you can google up a replacement pretty quickly. It may not be so polished and it may need some work to get it working (because the most popular choices get most exposure and thus polish), but it is possible.
But we are now 1 or 2 decades later. We don't only run simple software on our machines. I fear the day when samba, JBoss, KDE, LibreOffice, GIMP,... start to be dependent on systemd. When that happens it may or may not work for me. If it does, fine. If it does not then fixing the problem myself will be made complex exactly by difference of complexity between a shell script or alternative package installation and a C code. The may be low, but the potential loss is high.
Most people are far too dumb to be enjoy the right to free speech. They could proliferate and exploit the main weakness of democracy: that two idiots have twice as many votes as one intelligent person.
That is - you look not for things that are particularly likely to exist, but for things easy to detect.
So for example rather then trying to find factorization of a 2048-bit RSA modulus (which exists but is hard to find), you try to find 2048-bit prime that is even and bigger than 2 (that does not exists but is ridiculously easy to detect). Totally makes sense. Huh.
I'd like to have an app that records quality of WiFi signal depending on location of the phone in 3D space. Show it as 3D heap map that I can rotate and zoom. That would allow me to identify the zones with good/bad reception in a building, find out where to put the next AP or whether moving AP 30 cm helps. I might try to write one myself when I find some time...
The real shock is going to be the death of the PC.
If that happens to be true, it will be another piece of history that I was lucky to live through from the beginning - when it was really great - until the death. Along with software that I really own, computer games that work without network connection, media without DRM and Internet used to spread information rather then spam, collect personal data and distribute ads.
I think that I've watched this developing from the beginning. Some sites implemented it and keep using it. Some implemented it and then gave up. Some took the idea and implemented their own version. Some people just moved elsewhere. Some people keep bitching about it (which may indicate a success). It works better if you have one major media outlet and it locks news about local events in a small country. For anything global there is enough of independent sources.
The parent post should not have mentioned earthquake. For earthquake prone zone you want wooden houses because they are more flexible. But I don't often see earthquake reports from US. On the other hand I see tornado reports from US several times a year. The houses are turned into a pile of debris every single time. Also the victims don't usually wander around saying - "Ah, it's cheap to re-build a wooden house". More likely they say "I've lost everything; I can't afford to build a new house". I don't say that a concrete/brick building will not suffer any damage. But surely it will be in better shape compared to a wooden house.
Or the NSA's mass surveillance, the TSA, the Patriot Act, DUI checkpoints, free speech zones, and the countless other things our government does that violates the constitution.
True on slasdhot. Not the case anywhere else as far as I can tell. If I asked 100 in a shopping center whether they are care about having their internet surfing monitored, text messages monitored, phone calls monitored - I would not find one person that cares. Try convincing a BFU to start using encryption in e-mail. Good l luck. All you get is a blank stare (or they report you to authorities). Do you think anybody stops and thinks about containers for bottles at airport security check? Nobody does. Claim "it's for the children" or "it helps to fight terrorism" and you get a free pass with anything. Absolutely anything. Gosh, don't you see that everywhere?
Consisting of multiple binaries/libraries is not sufficient to call it modular. Not in my book anyway. What are the options to replace a specific "module" with a different implementation?
- there is a link on words "an overwhelming level of support of systemd from Linux users" - and that prompted me to click on that link (in clear violation of/. codex) because I was hoping to see who are these people that overwhelmingly support systemd? (apart from Lennart himself, that is).
All I got was a blog by Paul Venezia claiming that there is "an overwhelming level of support of systemd from Linux users". The links proving that claim are suspiciously missing. The blog itself seem to be be more on the skeptical side too.
So unless I see an overwhelming level of support of systemd from someone that matters and someone who knows what he talks about, then I'm not inclined to take that statement at face value.
Bottom line, unless you have very poor impulse control, not having a credit card is a poor financial decision.
You are assuming that whole world is equally fucked up. (It is fucked up everywhere, but in different ways).
1)Debit cards don't build credit history. This makes it hard to get a car or house loan at good rates.
The rates here are in all time lows (we talk about 2-3% for a house loan). Even if they are not, the ability to pay debts is evaluated here based on other things - such as "are you employed?", "how high is your income?", "how high are your expenses?", "do you have family?", "do you have a guarantor?", "can you provide any collateral?"
2)Credit cards have 0% interest if you pay at the end of the month every month.
The "if" is what bothers me. The bank basically sits there and waits until you make a mistake or run (even temporarily) into troubles where you can't meet the obligations. Then it makes you pay through the nose.
?? Does it matter? It answers queries received over the network.
Will it rebind to network interfaces if they change?
Hmm. Can you be more specific? I have problem coming up with scenario where replacing of NIC or changing of MAC/IP address could be handled transparently to the clients.
Does it need to write to disk?
Yes.
Does it need syslog to do logging output?
Does it matter? The typical configuration is to use direct logging to file. Without syslog. On Linux syslog may be used to log startup/shutdown of the daemon. Most likely using logger(1). On other platforms some native solution would be used.
If it crashes, should someone be notified? How? When? How often? Who?
If it crashes, people will notice because they don't get a service the daemon is providing. Immediately. They will notify the administrator and require the service to be restored. The administrator will capture the current logs and storage for investigation and restart the service. For HA systems, there will be failover system.
The problem with supporting multiple init systems is that each package that provides a daemon needs to support all of them.
The idea that "a daemon needs to support an init system" somehow does not make sense to me. But I'm ready to improve myself and learn. So, please, enlighten me:
Let's say I have a daemon that implements a network server. You start an executable, it reads a config file, opens a socket, listens for connections on some TCP port, reads a command from the socket, sends a reply. It can be shut down with a specific command received via socket connection or perhaps by sending a SIGTERM.
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How do you close all Firefox windows in one action on Windows? Alt+F4 closes just the current window. File->Exit is the only way I know of.
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Oh I can imagine a plenty of ways that would convince me that the god exists. For example if I met a guy that can bring my dead grandparents to life I'll certainly start considering that God as real. Or if he can undo Fukushima. Or World War II. You know what? I'll settle for "if he can cure stupidity, make politicians to adhere to Constitution and break the two-party system in US" ;-)
Let's try s/distro/samba/ :
Do you really think the a fork of samba can be created and maintained? Do you think that it is a problem to come up with other products that cannot be easily forked?
I too have some experience with SCO UX, HP UX, OSF/1 - when something was broken there, then it was broken. You could not really go and replace a DNS server with something else. Or the vi editor. Or syslog deamon. If it wasn't there you could wait for next release and cough up the money or you were SOL. You also could not take a package for HP-UX and install it on a BSD. Or recompile. What makes linux great is that if you don't like the component X then you can google up a replacement pretty quickly. It may not be so polished and it may need some work to get it working (because the most popular choices get most exposure and thus polish), but it is possible.
But we are now 1 or 2 decades later. We don't only run simple software on our machines. I fear the day when samba, JBoss, KDE, LibreOffice, GIMP, ... start to be dependent on systemd. When that happens it may or may not work for me. If it does, fine. If it does not then fixing the problem myself will be made complex exactly by difference of complexity between a shell script or alternative package installation and a C code. The may be low, but the potential loss is high.
Most people are far too dumb to be enjoy the right to free speech. They could proliferate and exploit the main weakness of democracy: that two idiots have twice as many votes as one intelligent person.
So for example rather then trying to find factorization of a 2048-bit RSA modulus (which exists but is hard to find), you try to find 2048-bit prime that is even and bigger than 2 (that does not exists but is ridiculously easy to detect). Totally makes sense. Huh.
I'd like to have an app that records quality of WiFi signal depending on location of the phone in 3D space. Show it as 3D heap map that I can rotate and zoom. That would allow me to identify the zones with good/bad reception in a building, find out where to put the next AP or whether moving AP 30 cm helps. I might try to write one myself when I find some time ...
Am I the only one reading it as Being a Coder May Be Good For Your Health?
If that happens to be true, it will be another piece of history that I was lucky to live through from the beginning - when it was really great - until the death. Along with software that I really own, computer games that work without network connection, media without DRM and Internet used to spread information rather then spam, collect personal data and distribute ads.
Can you be a bit more vague, please?
I think that I've watched this developing from the beginning. Some sites implemented it and keep using it. Some implemented it and then gave up. Some took the idea and implemented their own version. Some people just moved elsewhere. Some people keep bitching about it (which may indicate a success). It works better if you have one major media outlet and it locks news about local events in a small country. For anything global there is enough of independent sources.
I thought those will be the ones that will be regulated out of the market.
The parent post should not have mentioned earthquake. For earthquake prone zone you want wooden houses because they are more flexible. But I don't often see earthquake reports from US. On the other hand I see tornado reports from US several times a year. The houses are turned into a pile of debris every single time. Also the victims don't usually wander around saying - "Ah, it's cheap to re-build a wooden house". More likely they say "I've lost everything; I can't afford to build a new house". I don't say that a concrete/brick building will not suffer any damage. But surely it will be in better shape compared to a wooden house.
If the complaint is about the location provided by the browser itself, then: Firefox: about:config - > geo.enabled - user set - boolean - false
Been that way since FF started to support geolocation.
True on slasdhot. Not the case anywhere else as far as I can tell. If I asked 100 in a shopping center whether they are care about having their internet surfing monitored, text messages monitored, phone calls monitored - I would not find one person that cares. Try convincing a BFU to start using encryption in e-mail. Good l luck. All you get is a blank stare (or they report you to authorities). Do you think anybody stops and thinks about containers for bottles at airport security check? Nobody does. Claim "it's for the children" or "it helps to fight terrorism" and you get a free pass with anything. Absolutely anything. Gosh, don't you see that everywhere?
Consisting of multiple binaries/libraries is not sufficient to call it modular. Not in my book anyway. What are the options to replace a specific "module" with a different implementation?
Rather then carrying explosives I would expect that the drones perform reconnaissance. They are perfect for that.
Was that the sound of salmon flying over his head?
- there is a link on words "an overwhelming level of support of systemd from Linux users" - and that prompted me to click on that link (in clear violation of /. codex) because I was hoping to see who are these people that overwhelmingly support systemd? (apart from Lennart himself, that is).
All I got was a blog by Paul Venezia claiming that there is "an overwhelming level of support of systemd from Linux users". The links proving that claim are suspiciously missing. The blog itself seem to be be more on the skeptical side too.
So unless I see an overwhelming level of support of systemd from someone that matters and someone who knows what he talks about, then I'm not inclined to take that statement at face value.
You are assuming that whole world is equally fucked up. (It is fucked up everywhere, but in different ways).
The rates here are in all time lows (we talk about 2-3% for a house loan). Even if they are not, the ability to pay debts is evaluated here based on other things - such as "are you employed?", "how high is your income?", "how high are your expenses?", "do you have family?", "do you have a guarantor?", "can you provide any collateral?"
The "if" is what bothers me. The bank basically sits there and waits until you make a mistake or run (even temporarily) into troubles where you can't meet the obligations. Then it makes you pay through the nose.
?? Does it matter? It answers queries received over the network.
Hmm. Can you be more specific? I have problem coming up with scenario where replacing of NIC or changing of MAC/IP address could be handled transparently to the clients.
Yes.
Does it matter? The typical configuration is to use direct logging to file. Without syslog. On Linux syslog may be used to log startup/shutdown of the daemon. Most likely using logger(1). On other platforms some native solution would be used.
If it crashes, people will notice because they don't get a service the daemon is providing. Immediately. They will notify the administrator and require the service to be restored. The administrator will capture the current logs and storage for investigation and restart the service. For HA systems, there will be failover system.
So as long as I can disable dependency checking, I can avoid systemd altogether?
That is a solved problem and does not need a new solution of the size of systemd.
The idea that "a daemon needs to support an init system" somehow does not make sense to me. But I'm ready to improve myself and learn. So, please, enlighten me:
Let's say I have a daemon that implements a network server. You start an executable, it reads a config file, opens a socket, listens for connections on some TCP port, reads a command from the socket, sends a reply. It can be shut down with a specific command received via socket connection or perhaps by sending a SIGTERM.
What do I need to do to "support an init system"?