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French Publishers Prepare Lawsuit Against Adblock Plus
HughPickens.com writes Frédéric Filloux reports at Monday Note that two groups of French publishers, the GESTE and the French Internet Advertising Bureau, are considering a lawsuit against AdBlockPlus creator Eyeo GmbH on grounds that it represents a major economic threat to their business. According to LesEchos.fr, EYEO, which publishes Adblock Plus, has developed a business model where they offer not to block publishers' advertisements for remuneration as long as the ads are judged non-intrusive (Google Translate, Original here). "Several criteria must be met as well: advertisements must be identified as such, be static and therefore not contain animation, no sound, and should not interfere with the content. A position that some media have likened to extortion."
According to Filloux the legal action misses the point. By downloading AdBlock Plus (ABP) on a massive scale, users are voting with their mice against the growing invasiveness of digital advertising. Therefore, suing Eyeo, the company that maintains ABP, is like using Aspirin to fight cancer. A different approach is required but very few seem ready to face that fact. "We must admit that Eyeo GmbH is filling a vacuum created by the incompetence and sloppiness of the advertising community's, namely creative agencies, media buyers and organizations that are supposed to coordinate the whole ecosystem," says Filloux. Even Google has begun to realize that the explosion of questionable advertising formats has become a problem and the proof is Google's recent Contributor program that proposes ad-free navigation in exchange for a fee ranging from $1 to $3 per month. "The growing rejection of advertising AdBlock Plus is built upon is indeed a threat to the ecosystem and it needs to be addressed decisively. For example, by bringing at the same table publishers and advertisers to meet and design ways to clean up the ad mess. But the entity and leaders who can do the job have yet to be found."
According to Filloux the legal action misses the point. By downloading AdBlock Plus (ABP) on a massive scale, users are voting with their mice against the growing invasiveness of digital advertising. Therefore, suing Eyeo, the company that maintains ABP, is like using Aspirin to fight cancer. A different approach is required but very few seem ready to face that fact. "We must admit that Eyeo GmbH is filling a vacuum created by the incompetence and sloppiness of the advertising community's, namely creative agencies, media buyers and organizations that are supposed to coordinate the whole ecosystem," says Filloux. Even Google has begun to realize that the explosion of questionable advertising formats has become a problem and the proof is Google's recent Contributor program that proposes ad-free navigation in exchange for a fee ranging from $1 to $3 per month. "The growing rejection of advertising AdBlock Plus is built upon is indeed a threat to the ecosystem and it needs to be addressed decisively. For example, by bringing at the same table publishers and advertisers to meet and design ways to clean up the ad mess. But the entity and leaders who can do the job have yet to be found."
I'd care a lot more if I had ever read any of the publication threatening to sue. But I haven't and never intend to so it is hard to get really worked up.
That their efforts won't kill adblocking in general even makes it slightly amusing.
...as someone else will develop a list, and just a list, of hosts serving ads, and someone else will develop a plugin that can read lists of any kind to block content, with claims that the content blocked can be for adult material or any other form of objectionable content. The user will put the location of the list in to the program themselves, and they'll continue to block the content. If the list gets taken down in one place, it'll be propped-up again somewhere else, or even stale, would still be better than no list at all.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
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A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
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* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Just uninstalled AdBlock Plus and installed regular AdBlock.
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
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* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
I bet the French surrender after that.
I think they already did ... I tried to look at the original article in french ... wait ... wait ... wait ...
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
So, they are attacking ABP for giving them the possibility to send some form of adds, instead of just blocking all of them?
That's kind of fun.
They use my bandwidth (without permission) to peddle me ads for things I don't want and they think the courts should force me to look at their ads by removing my choice? I use ABP specifically because I don't want their invasive rubbish. The courts should be forcing them to ASK me if I want them using my bandwidth if anything as they are effectively stealing it.
none other than Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
Only winning move is not to play.
IANAL, so I'd like a tort guru to enlighten us on exactly how creation and distribution of a product (AdBlock) that that gives consumers an informed choice over another product (advertising bullshit) is an actionable case. It sounds like a water utility company suing faucet makers for making a device that restricts flow of billable water, or the electric company suing light switch manufacturers.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
I predict these companies will try to make it illegal for users to use any form of ad blocking.
Good luck with that.
Greedy bastards seem to think their desire to get paid means we're legally obligated to do so.
If your site wants to display ads, host them yourselves. But if you think I'm going to allow 3rd party trackers to support your business model, you're horribly mistaken.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Based on what? It's just a software that users choose to use.
Plus more efficiently with greater abilities than browser addons http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... with TOTAL end user based control.
So what they are saying is that I should not have any say in which bits get pulled through the internet pipe into my home?
I suggest people run the Firefox Addon called 'RequestPolicy' (I am not affilliated with it in any way, shape or form) even just to see how many different domain a website pulls data from these days... If I don't allow my computer to pull data from your ad-serving server, then that's YOUR problem and not mine. Who are you to say that I should pull data from that server?
Good Lord Jibbers Crabst, you'd almost start thinking that that stupid APK dude had a solution after all...
Maybe a reserve fund for NoScript, too, just in case?
In reality, the French fought hard for 45 days and suffered over 350,000 casualties. France, Belgium and the Netherlands fell because Germany gained superiority in the air and through the use of highly mobile armored divisions.
Wonder if i should sue those french publishers for using my bandwith without my prior consent for their marketing crap... Im sure 200€/100.000 bytes transferred is fair price for unauthorized use of my bandwith.
They only show how weak you, and "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (sold-out/crippled by default) are.
APK
P.S.=> Truth's truth, whether you like it or not... & all I've said, is 100% pure truth (of course, you KNOW that, hence your weak bullshit response attempt @ impersonating me - that only proves my points all the more)... apk
AdBlock is clearly doing something right, and for every google action there will be equal and opposite reaction.
If internet is called an ecosystem, then we, the small fish, have every right to the cloak of invisibility.
The big fish forgot that the the right to spy should be consented. Of course, there are certain type of fish that does not give a damn and use all kind fishing tools, starting from targeted baits, evolving to infections and ending to the 100% filtering.
If AdBlock will be drifted to playing both sides against each other, get the funding from both marketing companies as well as from the small fry being fished, alternatives will appear.
In reality, the French fought hard for 45 days and suffered over 350,000 casualties.
Was that a whole 45 days, including weekends and holidays?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I don't allow "reasonable" ads either. Pay Eyeo or don't pay them, it doesn't matter: I won't see your ads. I don't subscribe to any lists either, so if Eyeo only published the software and made no decision whatsoever what to block, I STILL WOULD NOT SEE YOUR ADS. If a website crashes and burns because it can't get enough ad revenue, then guess what: I don't care. Someone else will fill the void, and I will still not see your ads. There may be a pattern here.
Is the day I stop browsing the net.
We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
I browsed the internet with ads for so many years, they didn't really bother me and the flash was blocked (but available) with flashblock.
I finally had to give in and install Adblock Plus everywhere (even on throwaway firefox profiles) because friends rely too much on youtube for music. Then I realized that we're in the days of needing multiple gigabytes of memory for browsing, and bandwith isn't getting better (maxed out DSL lines) or even going backwards (using a wifi hotspot). The web content is huge and inefficient so it uses too many CPU cycles, too much memory and too much bandwith. An adblocker has become a way to trim that down, especially as the average PC is about 5 to 7 year old. And that's not touching the security issue, for people on Windows or maybe OS X (and arguably everyone, because the tracking still happens if you have a 100% secure OS and browser)
Arguing againt an ad blocker is thus becoming like arguing against firewalls, antiviruses and spam filters. Afterall a firewall hurts communication products (IM, etc.), an antivirus hurts a program that would like to patch a binary on the fly and a spam filter hurts commercial prospection.
in legal matters for ABP and also develop an alternative?
HTTPS Everywhere works great.
Maybe EFF should develop NOADVERTISEMENTS Everywhere!
Millions of people have never heard of Ad Block Plus. Until today. I once dreamed of buying a TV ad for ABP during the Superbowl. The Streisand effect will do the job.
Fifty years of Yippie! 1968-2018
Could be worse. Like Italy that changes sides to hide behind the biggest guns.
My ad block counter says it has blocked 3.7M ads. My head would have exploded if I had actually looked at 3.7M ads. Maybe there are teensie bit too many ads? So at three seconds viewing time per ad, that would be about a year's worth of full time ad viewing.
I use AdBlock not because I believe no one with a website shouldn't have the opportunity to make money via advertising, but because of the METHOD of advertising.
Flashing ads, quick movements, anything with Flash that can crash and stall my use of my browser, or any ad of more than 600 KB in size is intrusive. I don't mind being advertised at, but if you DEMAND my attention via tactics instead of attempting to CONVINCE me to buy a service or product with the facts of that service or product, then I will turn off and walk away.
Example of good Slashdot-based advertising for me: "Newegg - 15% off orders $25 - $100. December 8 ONLY. We know there's a couple things you've been meaning to buy. Be smart about it and buy them now. CLICK HERE to apply coupon." The coupon could take effect only via clicking in from Slashdot.
Also, I pay for my bandwidth and if you want to advertise to me, cool. Just don't take liberties with the size of your advertisement. Keep it small. Maybe a 2-3 frame gif changing every 20 seconds.
Lastly, I don't like the tracker cookies. I know some people say that tracking one's surfing habits enables more relevant ads to be used, but I don't like being tracked at all. Why not just use advertisements relevant to the site content? It's Slashdot -- post tech stuff. Slashdot builder? Then push 3D printer filaments.
As a result of some really BADvertisers, no one gets to put advertisements in front of my web-surfing eyes. I don't even know if a site has changed to less-obtrusive ads unless they tell me. (And if they do, I turn off AdBlock.) It's as simple as that.
"a lawsuit against AdBlockPlus creator Eyeo GmbH on grounds that it represents a major economic threat to their business"
How is that grounds for a lawsuit? By that logic, if I invent teleportation, the auto industry can sue me for destroying their business? Madness. You operate a business given an opportunity to do so in the market, if that opportunity dissapears, that's your shitty luck. You should have seen it coming and changed your business model, or accept defeat and fold.
Look at Apple, they saw that the iPod simply wasn't a viable product and shifted into iPhone production. It was incredibly smart. They didn't sue mobile manufacturers to stop them putting music listening functionality into phones.
Selling out to NOT do its job properly by default and it can't do as much as hosts or as efficiently http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and clarityray is making mincemeat out of adblock as well.
Can we organize a boycott of all the brands they represent?
FUCK YOUR SLOPPY AIDS!
There's really no other rational choice than to block most/all ads, in a world where ads can do just about anything they want. The annoyance and performance slowdown are trivial issues compared to the real problems. The same openness that allows Web-based ads to track you using cookies, launch plugins and pop-up windows, and prevent you from viewing content until you watch a video or wait some time, also (fortunately) allows users to fight back as a natural defense mechanism against these predatory tactics. For the advertisers to abuse this openness for their own personal monetary gain, while presuming to control what *I* run on *my* computer, while being appalled at my choice of doing the same, is ridiculous and contradictory.
Far and away the gravest problem with ads today is that the vast majority of them pose *serious* security and/or privacy issues. Most ad networks do very little to prevent bad actors from embedding malicious content that tries to exploit browser zero-days, steal cookies, track your behavior, or trick you into visiting malicious websites. Until website owners and ad networks decide to completely purge all the security and privacy risks, advertising is essentially synonymous with an opportunistic attack on each user who visits an ad-infested site.
On the open web, the only way advertisers are going to get any revenue is through earning the trust and goodwill of their customers. And we ARE customers -- customers who are currently being treated like shit. How would you like it if a car salesman walked up to you and started giving you a tattoo on the arm with the manufacturer's logo, seconds after you get out of your car and step foot on the lot? That kind of intrusive behavior should not be tolerated. And it isn't: users are doing exactly what the advertisers should expect them to do, given how they are being treated.
Ad networks should start by having a manual screening process for each entity that wants to submit ads through their network. The integrity, ownership, and status of each entity should be scrutinized to ensure that they are a legitimate business and are registered with the proper authorities. Additionally, the network should perform constant random sampling of their current ads being run, and employ experienced security auditors or penetration testers to examine the source code and other dynamic behavior of the advertisement payload on various popular browsers, to determine if it is tracking the user or malicious in any way. If it is, all further business with that partner should be stopped immediately, and the advertisement removed from the network. Website owners and users should not be the ones having to push the ad networks to remove these abusers.
The open Web is not going away. Users are in control of what displays in the web browser. Advertisers must either learn to work within a system of reasonable rules that do not attack users' systems or try to compromise their privacy, OR just keep fighting until their revenue stream is slowly strangled to death by their own despicable policies.
Seriously, I *work* for a communications marketing company, and still, I think the whining and gnashing of teeth over plug-ins like ABP is misplaced!
You can't realistically expect to stop people from blocking your ads with software any more than you can stop people from pressing "mute", channel change buttons, or just the "on/off" switch on the television when commercials come on!
The truth is, ad banners, pop-ups, pop-unders, animated page overlays and the rest of it are just distractions. If you create one that's minimal enough so most people can't be bothered to actively use a tool like ABP to filter it? Then you've probably just made an ineffective advertisement that people aren't even paying attention to in the first place. Advertisers who "get" this and have worked hard to build more effective ads are prompting people to "fight back" with these blocking tools. The takeaway we probably all SHOULD be getting from this is that this form of marketing isn't a very good one.
The fact that many site operators out there can barely make enough revenue to cover their costs of hosting means there's a strong interest in keeping the current business model in place and pretending it works. But truthfully, I think things would work out far better if marketers would agree to sponsor web sites likely to have an audience interested in one of their products. Just flat out pay their hosting for them, in exchange for the site making it clear your company is doing that for them. THEN you'd win the respect of the userbase and generate good P.R. and sales.
i just got this notice from slashdot today....
Disable Advertising As our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to Slashdot, you are eligible to disable advertising.
thing is, i've never seen an advert on slashdot because i have adblock plus. hahahaha fuck all you who put up with this shit.
pas de peau de mon cul, je ne lis pas le franÃais
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Just like the LimeWire lawsuit ended music piracy, right? Its so much easier to cling to a bad marketing model for dear life and sue anyone who gets in your way. Of course, contrary to their beliefs most of my own clients didn't even know what adblock was until I recommended it. I suppose while they're at it they should sue Microsoft, too, for introducing their own content blocker and opt-out do-not-track requests which uses the same lists as adblock.
IMO, win or lose they won't survive any longer for it.
I like how APK is spamming us to promote his adblocking solution. Buying his solution is in effect supporting spam!
It has apparently never occurred to publishers to band together and fund the creation of a system for buying content at dirt cheap prices using something like ACH transfers to keep the transaction costs low. How about a one-click purchase model where you pay $0.50/article or $3 for all content published that day? Nah, couldn't do that. That would require someone to say "this isn't working, let's try finding a new way to sell this stuff."
The reality, though, is that you'd never get them to realize that opening it up to all publishers, even prominent blogs, is a great idea. They'd never be able to fight their political biases and elitist views on new media and blogs to make a content sale system capable of replacing advertising.
Correct. Then a large fraction of the government capitulated, formed a puppet government, and did the Nazis' bidding, including rounding up people for shipment to concentration camps. And in some cases, like in North Africa, fought (weakly) against the allies.
At the same time, the parts of the government and military that were caught in or escaped to England made themselves royal pains in the ass to the allies, posturing and playing politics to try to claim they were in charge of the government in abstentia, This greatly complicated the invasion planning and led to poor tactical decisions based on maintain the pride of strutting martinets like DeGaulle. This allowed the Germans to escape through the Falaise gap, for example, when they were otherwise going to be caught. This probably extended the war another 6 months.
The ultimate was in the 60s. DeGaulle demanded that all American tropps be removed from French soil. Lyndon Johnson asked him "does that include the 65000 that died lliberarting it*.
That's why we hate the French.
Google was founded on a clean, simple design with unobtrusive ads. In fact, that's the very basis that attracted so many people to Google at first. It wasn't that it returned better search results or indexed more of the web--although one could argue it did both of those. It was that while Altavista and others were further conflating search results and ads, Google strove to present them independently of each other. Now, over time Google as bought up Doubleclick and they've been caught doing the same thing that drove people away from others to Google. But the overall point is that Google is at best relearning the lesson their founders saw and they're trying to monetize it, not actually fix it. I mean, really, paying to avoid obtrusive ads?
PS - As much as technological solutions are no magic that solve problems, things like Pop-up blockers, click-to-play plugins, and Adblock Plus (or clones) all have done a great deal to resolve the issue of obtrusive ads. To be honest, I don't mind unobtrusive ads, even if they were per se targeted--although considering the great lengths I go to to avoid be tracked, being targeted at all for anything is disturbing. But no amount of "we'll only show unobtrusive ads" works because advertisers either don't or won't accept the notion that what they're doing is annoying or deceptive. In the end, that results in a 3rd party needing to regularly review ads to blacklist advertisers who act badly, regardless of whether it is in bad faith, and I don't think Adblock Plus is in the position to do anything about it--although Google is big enough it could if it so wished. The fact that Google bought Doubleclick and has been sliding more and more towards the dark side? I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them when it comes to their judgement on unobtrusive ads or paying to avoid seeing ads. Because as much as I would like to contribute, indirectly, to websites that I visit by displaying ads, we're currently at a point that no one player has the trust and power to be a guardian to display ads that aren't little more than perpetrators of fraud (or worse, in the case of malware). And I can't see supporting fraudsters to support websites I like or use.
I run all my desktop browsers with ABP. I thought I never click on Google Ads, however recently I checked the history of my primary Google account and was very surprised to find that I had, and not just a few times, many times, and on things I had been interested in.
You can see your own history through Google's History site: Google History for Ads. It's pretty interesting. I don't know how they're getting me, but I assume it's on my phone. In any case, it's been so subtle (and useful) that I am in no way upset (I actually needed/wanted these things).
That's how advertising should be. Beyond that, all the un-targeted stuff deserves to be blocked.
So we can mourn with those poor, poor autoplay video ad creators.
France did surrender. The rest of the allies expected the government to detach to North Africa and continue the war from there. Instead they surrendered and more french troops fought for the Axis than they did for the Allies. Hitler had expected the invasion of france would claim a million german casualties, but he faced a demoralised army and took paris in six weeks with less than 50,000 dead or missing.
The French ministry of defence figures that around 200,000 military deaths during the whole war, including metropolitans and colonials, as well as resistance fighters; a fourth to a third of their casualties occured during the Battle of France. While the French can certainly claim to be a warlike people that has many times destroyed its neighbours, during World War II they fought poorly and surrendered promptly.
I don't recall seeing such things as adverts when I am browsing the internet...
Oh wait, I had forgotten, I block all adverts using my proxy server and firewall, how silly of me...
I guess I'll wait patiently for the advertising agencies to sue me personally for refusing to accept their advertising crap...
There's a local (well, national) newspaper that I read frequently. They implemented a paywall (five free articles / month) few years ago - it's trivial to bypass, naturally, clearing out cookies or using "porn mode" does the trick, but why bother, a simple ABP rule works. However, in doing so the comments are hidden as well. Most of the time this is entirely positive, but I guess I have some masochistic tendencies; when there's a really controversial (or bound to wake up the retards) topic, I sometimes like to read them. Call it self-trolling (trollorbation?) maybe. And to do so, I use another browser (that I can just wipe clean as needed).
And oh-my-$DEITY. It is absolutely horrible. We're not talking just about a few ads here and there. The entire page background can change. Popups that use position:fixed. Fucking animated ads. I do realize they have to pay for the content somehow. Some sites I frequent, I might even whitelist them. But as long as no ABP means being bombarded with ads, ABP it is.
ABP makes browsing bearable. It is the MUST have for any internet user. It saves bandwith, loadtime and it stops me from going blind of the the VERY UNWANTED spam that is pushed onto my system. IMHO these guys deserve a statue and i would gladly donate to assist in a lawsuit. Spammers shouldn't even be in business. And yes i consider all forms of intrusive commercials as spam.
And slightly off topic, the Ghostery, same deal but blocks trackers etc. Excelent work.
The ultimate was in the 60s. DeGaulle demanded that all American tropps be removed from French soil. Lyndon Johnson asked him "does that include the 65000 that died lliberarting it*.
That's why we hate the French.
And this is why WE love De Gaulle and give you Yanks the Finger in all its glory.
Then I'll disable adblock plus. Otherwise go fuck yourselves.
That was quick. An article about ads devolved faster than anticipated. On /. We strive for excellence.
Killing AdBlock will TOTALLY stop people from blocking ads... just like killing Napster totally killed illegal downloads... right. Nevermind that there are already countless other options for blocking ads- like peerblock or epic browser.
The United States suffered less than 1% of those casualties on Sept. 11th and more or less surrendered its freedom on the spot. Fuck off.
I like how apk makes you "run, forrest: run" rather than proving him wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
France had a population of only 40 million at the time, so I think it would be rather difficult to have that many casualties.
When they pay me for the bandwidth they use
+1 funny
I will accept whatever content you offer for free and always manipulate it to remove any inserted ads before rendering it. You can make them uninstrusive, make them subtle, target them as relevant all you like.
I will never ever see them.
I remember not that long back...early to mid 90's when you rarely ever saw an advertisement.
People need to be reminded that the internet is supposed to basically be a large network, where anyone can connect and set up a peer computer/server and trade information. I wasn't set up for making $$. While business is extremely valid on the internet, that is not the primary reason for its creation, and hopefully...not for its continuance nor regulation.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
To promote a rival adblocker. Stuff it where it hurts the most.
France. A country that used to matter.
If having to submit to a little extra time and security checks at the airport constitutes a massive loss of freedom for you, you have your priorities in a tangle. I don't know about you, but I lived my life more or less exactly the same before and after Sept 11th.
While true, they also tended to fight using outdated tactics, such as forcing millions of men at gunpoint to advance, regardless of the odds or support. Russian "tactics" were a partial cause of them losing so many men.
A whole 45 days? 350,000 casualties?
Such effort.
The Soviet Union fought the Germans for more than four fucking years, suffering somewhere between 20 and 40 million casualties.
The Soviets were very proud of the fact that, having executed all of their competent commanders, they relied on brute-force meat-grinding in place of actual strategy. Make no mistake, it wasn't the Germans that killed all those Soviets; it was their generals and kommissars, sending them into needless suicide. And at the end of the day, they ended up killing as many Jews and enslaving half of Europe in place of the Nazi's.
Fuck the Soviets. It's their own fault. Next time don't trade oil for land to Nazis.
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
You say this like people were free before 2001 ?
better than the always late sceptic tanks
I don't hate the french; I just find them amusing. I find the antics of De Gaulle during WWII absolutely hilarious, as in, Monty Python-esque funny. He would march down the Champs Elysees when he did virtually nothing in the immediate aftermath of D-Day to help liberate his own country. Even Montgomery, who himself was insufferable, found De Gualle insufferable.
The Anti-French sentiment stems from lingering inadequacy on the part of the Americans. France did not give the US the Statue of Liberty just because they thought the US was a bunch of really nice guys.
The American Revolution was a proxy war, by France against Britain. It was very similar in many respects to the Soviet-Afghan War, where the United States funneled arms and billions of dollars to the Afghanis. The French involvement in the American war was of a vastly greater scale.
The French supplied almost all of the gunpowder used through at least the first half of the war, almost all the cannon used throughout the war, tens of thousands of muskets, an army about the size of the Continental Army, military advisors, and vast amounts of money. In total they spent about a billion livres and increased their national debt by a third. The ante-climactic battle of the war involved a massive fleet engagement of French and British vessels and forced Gen. Cornwallis' surrender to the American forces. The Americans had no naval force worth mentioning (the description of a sixth-rate frigate as being "rough equivalent of half of a 64-gun ship of the line" is hilarious), and it is difficult to overstate either the power of a massed group of warships or their impact on warfare. Considered from an objective perspective, the American Revolution was an important but not decisive campaign in what should be known as the Second Hundred Years' War.
Why did Americans turn against the French after the war? It's simple: they wanted to promote their own heroes, and the idea that they had won the war all by themselves. It's really embarrassing to have to teach your children that your country wouldn't exist except that it happened to be a bone of contention in someone else's scheme. Similarly, I spent quite a bit of time down in Panama this last year, and I met very few people who had any idea of the US involvement in the creation of that country. They make anti-gringo jokes pretty often too, and they're funny for the same reason that anti-French jokes are in the US, but in both cases the joke is on the one telling it.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
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A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
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* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
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I don't think you're familiar with the patriot act.
While i agree about blocking intrusive ads, the fact that adblock are demanding money from advertisers really is extortion.
If they were just allowing unintrusive ads by default and not taking money for it they might actually encourage advertisers to clean up their act.
http://spamdecoy.net - free throwaway anonymous email - avoid spam!
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
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* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
The French would probably have done a lot better if they'd had a thousand miles or so where they could burn all of the crops and retreat across during winter, stretching the Germans supply lines and making a lot of their equipment stop working due to the temperature.
I am TheRaven on Soylent News
I have sound/Animation/Flash on the main Slashdot page.
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
It's a different web without adblock, and it's not pretty one. It does more than just hide advertisements, it also reduces bandwidth usage considerably. I've been using adblock since I was stuck on dialup. It was critical to me back then to make pages load faster. Then I was on satellite and adblock helped keep me under my data allotment. On the rare occasion that I have to use a computer without it, I'm always taken back by how bad the web is with all the ads. According to some estimates, we're exposed to over 3000 marketing messages every day, on average. I'm all for anything that reduces that number, whatever it actually is. Every person that I show Adblock to, has been very, very happy with the results.
Alex, I'll take keybindings not used by Emacs for $400....
I use Adblocker Plus and it works wonders. It eliminates tons of crap. However, some site ads still get through. I'm assuming that the hosting site has directly incorporated a sponsor's ad into their site structure, thereby bypassing Adblocker's filter. This works because the site owner now has a stake in not pissing off their readers and will only incorporate non-intrusive ads in their site. This is exactly the opposite of what DoubleClick does.
You gest, but during WWI they actually had a Christmas truce in 1914 where the troops came out to play football. No, the kind played with your feet. The commanders in chief were not amused. In WWII the Germans overran the trenches with armor, so there was no time for that sort of thing. The actual people in the trenches were pretty much the same, called to war because your country asks you to. Cannon fodder meats cannon fodder.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
I would think it would be trivial to circumvent adblock plus. It's a free download so as soon as they
release a new version you could load your site and check to see if it is working and if not then
adjust accordingly. It's an arm race that adblock can't possibly win. Spamassasin is much harder
to fight because it is based on text and is based on the individual's personal heuristics but I would
think circumventing adblock plus would be trivial.
Can't say I'm surprised. I really get fed up with these kinds of memes: 'murica!, "Germans are Nazis", and, "the French are cowards" .. and so on.
Can't we all just get along?
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
You live in Antarctica?
Nice to hear from you.
Advertisement / marketing organizations that want the status quo to remain should not press the issue. Some simple facts are going to come out of any meaningful conversation on the topic: 1) we don't want your cookies. we didn't ask for them, and we don't like them. 2) we'll be happy to pay a small fee to not see your ads, and you won't see any of that $.
Most (all?) ABP users use blocklists that are updated frequently, the plugin itself doesn't change that often. And you can naturally add your own (regex-based) rules. Sure, it might work, for a little while. But it is ultimately futile.
What gets me is, they somehow think the internet, particularly the web portion of it, was set up primarily for their business needs.
What gets me is that they don't take responsibility for the malware they spread with the ads.
If you need to pull in ads from a third party you are doing it wrong.
There was another huge contributor to The Fall of France. The french doctrine relied heavily of fortifications in the form of the Maginot Line. It was an impressive installation and would have stopped the German army except for one major flaw; The main fortifications stopped at the Luxembourg border. The French Government did not want to isolate Luxembourg and Belgium. The German forces easily out flanked the static heavy defences.
Really, I tried, to use the internet without adblock. But some of the websites I visit have so many ads, ads everywhere! Ads that take up more spaces than the articles, animated ads, ads that cut off articles at random places....
Just... Screw you.
It's not so bad if it's just one or two ads, on the side, that can be ignored, but lets face it, almost no websites do it.
So basically it will be against the law to not have Ad malware installed on your device. If you don't like it, you know, you can leave the internet. Another win-win!
In other news in 9 months:
Closing of "Adblock Plus" forces millions of ABP users to waste 90 seconds to search for an alternative. Film at eleven.
Seriously, WTF?
This is probably just some publishers organisation trying to show publishers that "they are doing something!".
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
This after suffering 1.4 million military dead in the previous generation during WW1. US losses during WW1 were about 117,000.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
-We can think of all sorts of analogies for intrusive ads (which are perfectly valid) but the truth is is that most people don't block ads on most sites unless someone can cite some statistics suggesting otherwise so I suggest a technologically feasible approach to serve unobtrusive ads to adblockers.
-As such, if website publishers want to get paid more for their content and think they are being shortchanged by ad-blockers, they could insist that the networks they work with provide them with a less interactive/obtrusive (i.e., non-flash, etc.) ad which will display when the user is using adblock (presumably in conjunction with the functionality already embedded in adblock to allow for those unobtrusive ads; presumably in the form of a cookie that an ad server could read then determine what th serve the user?)
As well as a complete and utter disdain for the lives of their own troops and civilians.
Best reply to the "France is full of cowards" that I've ever seen.
As an end-user, I expect my ad blocking to block ads. If they sell out and let some ads in for a fee, why would I use it? I don't know anything about French law; but this sounds a lot like the Yelp problem, except they're shaking people down to let their ads in instead of shaking them down for good reviews.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I've also heard that a lot of their soldiers played Russian Roulette in their free time.
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Most (all?) ABP users use blocklists that are updated frequently, the plugin itself doesn't change that often. And you can naturally add your own (regex-based) rules. Sure, it might work, for a little while. But it is ultimately futile.
I don't think it's futile. A website knows if you view their ads. There are already websites that block your access if you
turn off their ads. You're viewing their ads because you're viewing their content. Worst case scenerio is that the website
makes ads indistinguishable from content then there is no way to block the ads. This can be accomplished by embedding
the ad as an image in the website, writing the website in flash, product placement, etc... It's the same thing that will
happen with blockbuster movies. If the studios can't make money by selling the movies then they will make money with
tie-ins, product placement, etc... It will degrade the movie, sure, but they have to pay for it somehow.
The same will happen with the web. If ads ultimately fail then websites will start doing product placement, charging for
access, etc... New scientist went the pay route. Their free content is basically gone. I could see slashdot easily going
the product placement route where every 5th article is an article that was paid to be put there.
Can users (or the website owners) sue them whenever it's shown that their streams are vectors of malware? I think advertisers suing might be opening pandora's litigious box.
Careful, you'll upset the ignorant conservatives by threatening their faith-based worldview, where whatever hate-fueled derp wingnut media fills their heads with becomes "Truth."
I wish we woulda gave you guys the finger during WW II. if we did, many Americans would not have had to die for you fucking cowards.
it's been proven war after war that France is a bunch of sock puppet sissies. fucking cowards.
The French may have more holidays and spend less time per day working, they are still more productive on average than US Americans. Just because you spend 60 hours a week at your workplace doesn't mean that you work more.. How much time do you spend on Facebook or playing Candy Crus on your smartphone ? How effective are you at your work ? Basically they spend less time on their workplace, but they produce more hourly..
Dice. And Bennet Haselton.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
I can't wait for you all to go out of business and starve.
We have a Do Not Call Registry for phones. Perhaps we should also have a Do Not Advertise Registry for internet users.
Latest version of ABP installed. Thanks GESTE & the French Internet Advertising Bureau guys, now I know what gets your attention.
De Gaulle fought that war from the beginning to the end, from the first line, while *others* hid trembling behind the ocean, hoping war would pass them by, because they could not overcome their cowardice.
Whom do you think I find amusing?
I don't think you're familiar with the patriot act.
Yeah, he's probably American.
Extortion? Go cry me a river. You advertise because it works. Moreover, you and all your competition follow the same rules. God forbid you have to go back to the days of word-of-mouth advertising and promote your product by its merits rather than by blinking, dancing, intrusive, obnoxious page filler. We'll all be better off for it. So Boo. Fucking. Hoo. Get over it.
Are they going to sue my pop-up blocker now to?
What about my email spam filter?
I find the content you distribute on the internet to be offensive. I have every right to reject it. In fact, I think your continued attempts to get around my firewall/filters to be an attempt to attack me and my network. In my opinion, what you're doing is illegal and you should be jailed.
what are you swiss?
oh wait, no you're not a grave robber.
Marcel Marceau?
hahah your economy says other wise
This problem arises for very simple reasons:
1) the production of high quality content costs money.
2) the distribution of the same content costs the distributor money (ISP Service Cost).
3) the consumption of any content costs the consumer money (ISP Service Cost again).
So, both parties feel like they have already paid. The ISP's, however, burn the candle at both ends and laugh all the way to the bank.
The providers need an incentive to produce, as well as distribute, and obviously that's where the ad money comes in. And, just as obviously, consumers don't want to fuss with the ads.
So....the solution......
ISPs should pay producers a portion of their earnings from consumers; the proportion being calculated based on percent of traffic.
This gives producers/distributors incentive to compete against one another for hits. Naturally, they won't want ads driving those hits away, and they will want high quality content pulling the hits in.
But it means ISPs would have to share their profits. Obviously, they won't do this without a fight. And even if they lose the fight, it means costs will go up for consumers, which will make them whine.
This would ultimately produce a superior Internet, but far too few people actually want it this way.
You'll be delighted to know that the Christmas truce has been turned into Sainsbury's 2014 Christmas ad. It's the advertising limbo: How low can you go? And here's the required link for discussions about ads: Bill Hicks on Marketing.
-1 tasteless
Perhaps, but ultimately France went from having the most powerful army in Western Europe, with a decent air force and many other advantages against Germany even in 1939, to being run over and occupied in short order.
The French themselves may not have been on vacation, but their politics and military strategy were seem to have been.
or at least pushed it to the fringes enough that a few edge-case exceptions really didn't matter...
I don't think you lost many freedoms. You think you did, but you didn't.
Because French mouth breathers don't work at all. Hence they don't drag down the productivity numbers.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Because WW2 involved Hitler. Godwin wins, every time.
No, I live in America, and never felt in any way constrained by any part of the Patriot Act.
Jerry Lewis?
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I think they are fighting for page neutrality. Why would one image not be loaded and the other one will be? Who is the author and holds the copyright? Who is the receiver to modify such works? I think they have a point (when net neutrality would be law; oh wait it isn't)[/evil grin]
nosig today
EITHER:
1) International treaties will make the production and/or distribution of adblocking software illegal. Treaties will be used to accomplish this in order to avoid any kind of popular vote. The makers of the popular ad blockers will be removed from the playing field, and most of the world will be forced to put up with ads (geeks will be able to roll their own, or obtain blockers from surreptitious channels, but they will represent a small enough percent of the online population that nobody will care). This will probably be used to further push Linux away from the desktop (since Linux makes it too easy to block ads).
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2) Ad blocking will become popular enough that there will be no pure-content business models anymore. The Internet will largely be a collection of commercial sites like Amazon, and subscription sites. A few hobbyists will still serve up drivel that nobody wants, but that will be about it.
moi bien, insensible lourdaud !!
There is nothing BUT laziness and greed to prevent websites incorporating ads into 'editorial' content so they cannot be identified and blocked. Rather than this system, profoundly EVIL web site operators prefer to use AD SERVERS that have all been proven to have served the most destructive MALWARE to unsuspecting visitors of even the most 'respectable' locations.
Again, any site handling its own use of ads- vetting and processing them appropriately- can easily blend said ads into their output in a completely unblockable way- thus solving their 'ad-block' issues.
Look, I was late to the use of 'adblock'. I guess I kinda accepted the purpose of ads, and wanted to allow the sites to choose what they sent to my screen. BUT across time, the ads served got worse and worse- every possible kind of non-malware abuse was exploited. Ads that would stream HUNDREDS of megabytes of video in the background, before triggering (off an INVISIBLE trigger) an unstoppable video promotion overlaid on top of the entire page.
When users complained, the web-masters told them to "GET BENT". The breaking point, however, was my first taste of devious malware served from a FULLY legitimate website. "Fuck this" I thought, and Adblock was applied everywhere from then onwards.
There is ZERO morality or responsibility in the online ad biz. Year by year, ad companies have boasted about employing ever more deplorable criminal hackers to exploit the latest weaknesses of current browsers. NO-ONE, and I mean no-one, would have bothered to block ads had they remained appropriate and proportional to the browsing experience.
AND WHERE'S THE CODE OF CONDUCT? No matter how much the filth moans about adblock, not once do the same filth refer to a need to create and follow a 'code of conduct'.
If a 'code of conduct' were created and enforced, do you think Adblock would refuse to allow (under a USER-SELECTED option) Ads to appear on sites able to provide an appropriate 'blue-ribbon' signature? Adblock plus LOVES to give its users power over how and when ads are blocked. If course Adblock, and users, would adore an advertising 'code of conduct'.
But a 'code of conduct' means no more criminal hackers finding ways to exploit browsers on behalf of the BIG ad agencies- and that the big boys DO NOT WANT. The big boys want MORE abuse in the future, not less- ads based on the most fundamental invasion of your privacy. And to get this, many major politicians across the West will be getting VERY fat cheques from their 'friends' in the online ad biz.
Today, I see my use of Adblock as a direct act against internet crime/fraud. Like I said, any smaller 'legit' site has the option of generating the ad data on their OWN servers- flowing it into their own content- and fooling Adblock - if they can't be bothered to do this, I shed no tears for their financial loss.
Fuck the Soviets. It's their own fault. Next time don't trade oil for land to Nazis.
AMERICA, ARE YOU LISTENING?
XML is a known as a key material required to create SMD: Software of Mass Destruction
Because I use my mouse to close adverts, are mouse manufacturers vulnerable?
From a free speech perspective, this is an idiot joke- obviously the guy should be able to publish an add blocker.
From a property ownership perspective, this is an idiot joke- obviously, the property owner (me) should be able to control what my property fucking DOES, and what it doesn't do is show me dumb adverts.
From a moral perspective, this is an idiot joke- advertisements are objectively harmful to the recipients, and those who do not wish to be subject to harm should not be.
So if this DOES go through, what it means is that ad blocking software will be moved to places where these guys have no jurisdiction. Note that it's happening in France by French companies, so they are hoping for a home team advantage. But hopefully their courts aren't fans of idiot jokes.
When they are NOT shown to people I get reimbursed?
Anyone see the flaw in this?
I won't even have to have a real product! Just make ads people don't want to see for products they don't want and that doesn't even exist.
Because I would think a single "Your computer has a virus" ad would serve as a slam dunk for the defense.
(If at first you don't succeed, do it different next time!)
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APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend" ...apk
I browse with Javascript disabled. Although crappy Firefox has made it quite difficult to do so (seems users are deemed too stupid to decide for themselves). Sue me, you assholes.
Godwin is no longer a conversation ender, since the Snowden revelations.
You have to be able to talk about Nazi's when your country is going that way...
Truth isn't Truth - Guliani
[Citation needed]. Wikipedia mentions nothing of the sort.
Fuck you.
No ads.
Sell your product.
Here's the truth, if you pay them XYk-XYZk (They NDA you) per year you get added to their "safe" list no matter what. Google, Facebook & pretty much every semi-legit ad network does. They brag about it & it's expensive.
It's not about the ad's being "safe" it's about how much you pay them. They have TONS of shady networks that pay the fee because it's ROI effective to do it.
It's a genius business model with almost no costs at all.
Adblock in my experience is roughly 10-15% of all internet traffic. This is based on real stats, impressions go up this much when you get around it.
Conversely for advertisers, the traffic generally is almost worthless & generates very little revenue at all. But the Ad network's don't care because the majority of Ad networks operate on a CPM basis. It's dirty.
No, I live in America, and never felt in any way constrained by any part of the Patriot Act.
That's because you haven't seen the effects directly, yet. Once the investigation is further along, you'll see how badly your rights are going to get trampled on.
What's that...you say you've never done anything to warrant investigation? That's exactly the same as many of the people on the No Fly List. And, you're not one of the nearly 10 million US citizens who are three steps away from a "selector"? So far, then, you've been lucky.
This whole ads business needs to go away. Seriosly, stop trying to convince people to buy your garbage.
Create a nice web site for all your site so that people can search and compare. And for all independent publishers there are other means to get a buck.
https://www.kickstarter.com/
http://www.patriondigital.com/
https://www.indiegogo.com/
http://www.patreon.com/
etc.
http://www.mueller-public.de - My site http://www.anr-institute.com/ - Advanced Natural Research Institute
Citation needed. 30 seconds on Google had France at 92% of usa for gdp per hour in 2009.
Really, I could have sworn that we went to war after that to try to rid the planet of the people responsible. I also could have sworn that everybody else I know went back to their life as usual after a period of mourning.
2 ways to whitelist: Enable/Disable the hosts file from its trayicon or rightclick menus OR just don't add sites you don't want blocked in hosts - VERY simple!
(Of course, that's BEYOND your limited skillset, now isn't it? LMAO - Answer, obviously = yes).
User personalization? WTF for?? That'd be STUPID, you moron - hosts protect GLOBALLY as they ought to, dumbass
Wildcards? WTF for?? To be as "good" (not) as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked", crippled by default & sold out to NOT DO ITS JOB?? No thanks!
APK
P.S.=> Who's the laughing stock now, shithead? Not I, that's certain... apk
"Don't mention the war"
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
I actually like to see ads from e.g. Tektronix (their new entry level scopes). Ads which do not jump right into my face and play animations. AdBlock is only necessary because of indecent bastards running the Ad Monopolies.
Plus it often is a security risk to run their Flash Shite - more than one virus has been spread this way,
Make ads decent and nobody will work against them.
Obviously you haven't had to work with French people... Once they have gotten their nose into something they stick there until they are pried from it by some superior.
And they don't see foreigners as superior.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
De Gaulle of course.
AdBlock != userfriendly as it doesn't do its job since it sold out http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
See my subject-line, & this link, as to the rest of your "so-called 'points'" -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
You must've missed this post then also as it addresses your others 'points' here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and all my 'naysayers' (technically weak feeble dolts since they can't prove my points wrong validly) have is downmods vs. it - that tell YOU anything? Does me, lol... they FAIL!
As far as being a competitor? AdBlock'd have to be the EQUAL of hosts @ least, & clearly? It's not -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> This is NOT spam, so you can cut that bullshit right now... see, I guess it's ok for you adblock sockpuppets to spout off on your crippled sold out inefficient wreck, BUT it's NOT OK for me to show how lousy it is vs. hosts? NO... don't *think* so! Due to that? You have failed... apk
The French should have just installed ABP (Aryan Block Plus), and configured it to only allow the Germans that they wanted into France.
what are you swiss?
oh wait, no you're not a grave robber.
That's a new one on me. I imagine there's a pretty good story behind that reputation, though.
:D
Besides, how do you know I'm not a grave robber?
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
It updates DAILY (sometimes, more) from 12 reputable security community sites (see it's CONFIG tab here -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... )
Not out to "make money" from it - I did decades of that as a software engineer & have been fortunate to have done well enough to be in business on my own since 2008 in a completely different field & I pretty much have all I need.
APK
P.S.=> I did this so folks can have more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity online (especially today), for free & it works more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons (especially SOLD OUT TO NOT DO THEIR JOB LIKE ADBLOCK is) + does more from 1 single file you already have that operates in a more cpu serviced/faster level of operations, that operates LONG BEFORE browser addons, & with less messagepassing overheads too... apk
...it's intended to block the typical addresses used by copyright monitors, but it also blocks malware and ads.
I remember a few years back you could download a host file. It was intended to block the typical sources of malware. But for some unfathomable reason, malware and ads seemed to share the same hosts 90% of the time so it would block advertisements too.
Hosts do more. Hosts do their job right, unlike sold out crippled adblock that's also inefficient as hell and can't do 1/15th of what hosts can. ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR "SPAM" CRAP: That's mere bullshit. I think it's amusing that 1 guy, apk, can outprogram you open sores morons with ease with a better design using hosts, a something you already have natively instead of piling on more stupid overheads with an intentionally broken piece of junk called adblock.
Citation needed. 30 seconds on Google had France at 92% of usa for gdp per hour in 2009.
Yeah, but those are metric hours.
A case could be made about circumvention of communication, and the fact that they ask money to allow the communication, which could spell trouble for ABP. The solution naturally is for ABP to disallow all advertising on french market, without asking money for special cases. Though they would still be liable for past "infraction".
Soccer. They played soccer, not football.
The French poured buckets of money into the Maginot line. The Germans just went around it. The Germans had tried the same end around in WW-I (though failed), so the lack of defense at the BeNeLux border was a costly strategic mistake. Hitler had it in for France because of the Treaty of Versailles, and even went so far to track down the rail car that the Treaty in Versailles was signed in, to rub Gallic noses into. Even the new tactics could be seen on their doorstep in the Spanish Civil War. The French should have seen it coming.
I think the part of the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" comes not from the initial invasion, but the puppet government that was Vichy France. The Russians fought to the last man in horrible siege conditions for years. France started to be a puppet regime paying tribute to Hitler and rounding up Jews just a couple months after initial invasion. Only later when Hitler changed terms of the agreement did the French underground resistance really form.
That, and there were two, probably more interesting "surrenders". When the French left the colonies of Algeria and Indochina (Vietnam), there were those that saw that as surrender. I call them interesting because they didn't leave because of being defeated, but they realized that the barbarism that it would take to hold these territories would change the national character. It's hard to talk about "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" when you're tossing people off of helicopters or torching villages. Was this surrender? Maybe on the ground, but to win a military would entail other surrenders of character, again, an interesting trade off.
In reality (and I'm of Polish descent) the Polish fighters lasted longer. (Compared to the French) the Polish had the disadvantage of being a new country, (re)formed in 1919 after, in effect, disappearing completely for a hundred years or so. Oh yeah, and they got attacked on two fronts.
I don't begrudge any credit to the French resistance. Their fighters fought bravely. The Poles fought just as hard against two armies, with less notice and much fewer resources. I wish they got more credit. Part of the Polish jokes were real - you did have farmers on horseback with single shot rifles going against tanks. But what else are you gonna do, let them roll into Warsaw without a fight?
Ditching NATO was the one good thing De Gaulle did.
- Contrary to what you seem to think, as far as we're concerned you didn't really have to come save us, the war was already won by the Russians. (Although I do thank you for protecting us from them).
- Historically, French military fares rather well. I'm not even proud of it, it's just a fact.
- A lot could be said about the reasons for the rapidity of the German invasion in WWII, but cowardness of the soldiers wasn't such an important factor.
- This page should be about the future of ad-blocking, using it to express your negative feelings about the French people is stupid and childish.
It is a loss of freedom. And with little benefit. Every loss of freedom should come with a benefit, and their is none here. I get into line, get irradiated by an X-Ray that can't even find what it's looking for (and the irony of me "assuming the position"). It's all security theater, from the XRays that can't find the bombs that they were designed in reaction to, from the change of the uniform color from white to blue (to look more police-ish).
The USA PATRIOT Act was in response to 9/11. We don't even know what freedoms we gave up because much of the law is secret. The US should not have secret laws. How many NSA violations came as a result of laws passed at that time? Google the term LOVEINT for a small taste of violations. If i want privacy, I need to look like a kook and be completely off the grid. Or else the NSA (or some other TLA) can get data from pretty much any big corporation. There are "border" checkpoints hundreds of miles inland in the US. You can probably find a bunch of confrontations on Youtube, where the agents pretty much refuse to answer direct questions about your rights (these are all "voluntary" stoppings, but some agents don't see them as such) until you comply.
Don't reduce the 9/11 changes to taking your shoes off at the airport. We're in a much different world. We're over a decade after 9/11 and we still have a massive security apparatus probing every US citizen with little oversight.
Firstly the distance was almost half to Paris (lower if you count the army basis in the Ruhr), making it very easy to crush anything or send reinforcement, bombing, and the german had a very good air and tank superiority (even if they still used a lot of horse caried stuff lilke everybody) etc... Secondely the climate , the countryside, is much harsher toward the east than toward the west. There was a running joke that the best german soldier killer of the russian army was named "colonel winter". Winter on the other hand is way survivable with the quasi oceanic climate north of France. Finally the capital with 15-20% of the french was already at the mercy of an attack, with practically nothing to stop german. That made the french position untenable no matter what resistance you could offer. Russian position was more tenable because they could play with the time and meat grind people.
Secondly do you find it really good to send human to the meat grinder like the russian did ? Personally I think people like you which think sending millions of people to the meat grinder is a valid tactic disgusts me. It is neither courageous to send people to their death that way, nor is it cowardice to admit defeat when your position cannot be maintained. Hey anonymous coward, WW1 missed you !
I am ready to bet you would not be in the first wanting to be grinded in such a way, but I am also betting your FAT ASS is nice and comfy in your parents basement typing your usual "surrender joke", far away from any risk of war.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
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"We're all wondering"? You and your side personalities? Glad you're finally coming to terms with it. You do realize, by the way, that by posting I can't mod in this thread. So I'm not the one modding you down. THEY are.
And don't forget to make a donation while you're at it....
So your only comeback is that a DNS server uses more power? Really? Is that the best you got?
Still no response to #10. Come on buddy... show me the benchmarks. I want to see the speed difference between parsing a 1,000,000+ text file vs a single dns query.
Take your time.. I'll wait.
Are you sure you're not the lovechild of Bennett Haselton and the Timecube guy?
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
That was quick. An article about ads devolved faster than anticipated. On /. We strive for excellence.
Behold the mighty AC blitzkrieg. You are surrounded. There is no hope.
The part of this article that has not been mentioned yet is that the developer of Adblock Plus (forked from the original Adblock) has decided to take money in exchange for allowing "non-intrusive" advertising through its lists, pretty much against the interests of it's users who don't want any ads. This puts them directly in the line of fire when media publishers get irate enough to sue, as advertisers see them as a blackmailer. You can see the whitelist of allowed sites here: https://easylist-downloads.adb... - along with Google and it's Doubleclick network, other notables and other publishers and trackers not easily recognized have paid up. Adblock Plus got the install base and trust, then they change the arrangement.
I turned off the ads on utorrent after a particularly salacious ad featured a lingerie clad derrière of a young woman squatting over a golden egg. It literally looked like she had just shat a golden egg. Not an image I want when I'm downloading Gravity Falls.
And then there's the stupid video, and voice ads that pop up, and takes me forever to figure out how to turn off. I'm sick of having cocks, and boobs waved in my face when all I want to do is look at a comic. Thank Dawkins I don't have any kids. I don't know how I'd explain that egg ad to them.
Websites can post, at users, any legal material they wish.
Users can curate, of what is available, what their computer displays.
Unless either of those two facts change, everything else is details that will persist or substitute in some form. So I'll oblige the article: "Yes, they're dumbfucks (better incompetence than malice) betting on bigger dumbfucks to do ruling."
I block most everything by default and have gradually learned exactly what scripts to allow in order to access the content I want. It's a little tedious but I'm completely used to it and don't have to think about it. Of course, remembering which sites to temporarily allow googleapis to run on would drive many people nuts.
Sockpuppet alternate accounts make doing mods in a thread from another account easy. You're doing your usual "run, forrest: run" from proving apk wrong too. Thanks for looking dumb and making apk appear invulnerable to bullshit like yours.
And in some cases, like in North Africa, fought (weakly) against the allies.
Funny story: the French port of Oran was tasked to the Americans because Britain and France were at odds before the German occupation. The allied commanders believed that they would not shoot at Americans, but would instead join them. They were wrong; the French at Oran fought to the bitter end. The French soldiers in North Africa, unfortunately, had more mettle than their continental counterparts, and paid with their lives.
Soccer == football. Soccer is just an old-fashioned word that means association football.
His reaction to banning the use of adblock.
Definition of "conflicted"... trying to figure out which side to support when the French ad agencies sue APK.
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
I think GP meant things like privacy and the right to a fair trial. You might not value those, but others do.
GDP is a bad measure for productivity (especially when comparing to the US with its strongly inflated GDP figure).
When you resort to "impersonating me": Have you NO shame, noob? Handed you your ass, again, once more http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> I really *tried* to be nice, but an arrogant FOR NO GOOD REASON noob dolt like you? YOU needed a GOOD public spanking, Pikoro... you got what you asked for, twice (lmao) & you failed, badly... apk
"Several criteria must be met as well: advertisements must be identified as such, be static and therefore not contain animation, no sound, and should not interfere with the content. A position that some media have likened to extortion."
Those are ads I can tolerate. The moving, noisy, noxious distracting ads are intolerable. AdBlock rules get rid of them.
"On /. We strive for excellence."
Well, excellence in being stupid and wasting everyone's time is, in fact, excellence, I'm sure you'll agree.
+1 to that sentiment. If this was freaking 4chan, I bet he'd be blocked.
If ads didn't cause so many problems, people like me wouldn't be blocking them. And I dont mean problems like obtrusive ads that hover over the page content. Or ads that play audio. Or even the tracking that ad companies do.
The biggest problem with ads is that compromised ad servers are a BIG delivery vector for malware though things like Flash vulnerabilities and drive-by downloads.
Unlike the US, who didn't trade with them at all, right?
Fuck the US. It's their own fault 9/11 happened. Next time don't fund terrorists.
So if you hit a site that has 5-10 of your "blocked" sites, you have to parse that file each time, for each query. Talk about a waste of resources.
Also, my DNS box is doing more than just serving up dns requests. You still haven't shown me any kind of benchmark. Only your made up numbers and statistics.
Come on... Step up. Show me a single study that compares a million+ line host file against a single dns query for the same item.
As for adding complexity... Yah, I guess it does add some. Things that someone that only knows how to parse a plain text file in notepad might not grasp...
Bring it on! Show me the study!
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
Thank god Jack Pershing told the French and the British what to do with their plans of using Americans as replacements for their units.
French and English leadership in WWI was criminally bad. Same as Frog 'leadership' in WWII.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
ABP used to be great, then they sold out, and now they're basically a protection racket. Once again, we the users are not the customers, we're the product. I've long jumped ship to one of the forks (AdBlock Edge, in case anyone cares).
It was obvious that turning it into a "nice ads you have there, would be a pity..." game would land them in trouble sooner or later, so my sympathies are very limited. Especially once you dig through the connections between the various companies belonging to the same corporate network and realize that magically, their own or ally companies are all on the whitelist.
To the publishers, meanwhile: If your business model is threatened by users telling you to fuck off because you've become obnoxious, then maybe the problem is in your business model, isn't it?
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
French publishers, welcome to our Internet for Dummies course. Today, we will learn about the Streisand Effect.
Quit using flash and javascript.
Well, that's why they make better lovers too.
The oil traded to the Nazi's was specifically for their war machine, in exchange for the mutual carving of Poland. See the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact. How much war material did the US sell to Nazi Germany?
If you refer to the mythical CIA-Bin Laden connection, you need to listen to less Alex Jones.
Read the "Liberation Trilogy" by Rich Atkinson. Brilliant work. The Americans had some good commanders and terrible ones. The Brits were hit or miss, but their men loved them in a way the yanks never could. The French generals hated everyone and each other, constantly vying for prestige and insulting the men whose help they needed. Even in defeat, they could not swallow their pride. But then, there were a number of British and American generals of whom the same could be said. Only the diplomatic genius of Eisenhower and the strong rapport of Churchill and Roosevelt held the operation together.
I'm sorry but I pay enough for internet access I don't need to have this relentless crap bukaked over every single page I load up. I don't frankly give a damn if entire companys make there yearly figures on internet advertising, its far to intrusive.
Access2.ME also works with ad publishers to ensure minimum levels of compliance with user non-annoyance policies.
Victor von Frankenstein was a Swiss, so it computes.
A buggy whip.
Simply because a product threatens your business doesn't mean you are entitled to get it legislated out of existence.
AdBlock puts out a product that saves people bandwidth and filters out all sorts of noxious, potentially dangerous content.
However, there ARE ways around AdBlock. At the root of it, your ads simply CANNOT utilize any of the aforementioned noxious, potentially dangerous means to FORCE views.
If this breaks your business model?
Get a better fucking business model, as the one you're using now sucks.
Also, end users VOLUNTARILY install AdBlock. It isn't a default install anywhere. So these are people who have made a choice NOT to accept traffic from your crappy ad network. AdBlock didn't FORCE their product on ANYONE. Again, you don't have a right to force people to view your content.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
You can only talk about the quality of the ad networks in the negative. What haven't they done wrong? What haven't they screwed up? Internet ad networks are:
- a premier source of malware to unsuspecting victims;
- a frequent source of "eyeball muggings" and "eardrum assaults";
- misrepresentations and mismatches between the ad content and either the service provided or the service provider;
- slow performance;
- disallowing partial page renders when the ads are slow (as though the ads are the primary reason for the page to exist!);
- disreputable business practices in general;
- total lack of accountability. Seriously, try to trace who is responsible for any objectionable content, or objectionable performance, or objectionable business practices. I won't wait for you because you'll be at it for weeks, at least.
You have forgotten what freedom is and why people fight for it.
So uncheck that box or make your own lists.
They must have finally gotten their act together, because the original french text is now available. It's the usual whine about how they can't stay in business because less than% of people now have AdBlockPlus installed.
They brought it upon themselves by making ads more and more intrusive. I don't mind the occasional side-bar add or banner, but pop-overs, pop-unders, ads that track everything I do and phone home, ads that auto-start sound or video, these need to die.
This is no different from broadcast regulations that don't permit stations to increase the sound modulation (and hence the volume) of ads.
And now AdBlockPlus is taking aim at "publi-reportage" - news reports that are really advertisements. Coming soon to a slashvertisement near you?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Marshal Zhukov was an eminently competent commander. When you've got more men than weapons, which is more valuable? And when you've got lots and lots (and lots) of men, who all have to be fed and housed and clothed, but no minesweeping equipment - what better way to clear a minefield than to order your troops to march across it in close formation?
There's nothing incompetent about that. Ruthlessly pragmatic, yes. But it got the job done.
All advertising is intrusive. We should not even be exposed to this spam business model unless we invite them in. The advertising business has got away with it being backwards in their favor for way too long. They should be paying us to watch their advertisements (PERIOD)
At least they didn't stop for the afternoon tea like civilized combatants do. They did take their mandatory coffee breaks, though, continental style.
Something like maybe, iBlocklist, the providers to Peer Guardian/Peer Block. They work well, when they work, but that's the issue- they are just as extortive as everyone else. If you want daily updates or anything requiring heavy traffic, you gotta pay. I understand that, and I'm not decrying the process, but mainly trying to point out that there are no saints on the internet.
Many major AV vendors categorise Hosts File "application" as malware, and with good reason.
So what? It's in RAM, & I incur a lookup to OpenDNS (sub 4% of the time here) - big deal: I'd waste FAR MORE THAN THAT seeing ads etc. (worse being infested, & protected in MORE WAYS, by far, than "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" could even hope to do).
APK
P.S.=> See that subject-line above? You fail there, *AND* in terms of added complexity/moving parts for MORE than potential breakdown (downed or redirect poisoned DNS, which mind you, over 99% of ISP DNS servers out there to this day a DECADE or so later, aren't patched against (OpenDNS is, excellently)) vs. what I can provide from a SINGLE native part of the IP stack file doing MORE, with TONS less (vs. DNS use locally, especially DUMB if separate rig for a home lan imo OR AdBlock & other browser addons))... dumb... apk
I could see slashdot easily going the product placement route where every 5th article is an article that was paid to be put there.
That would be at least an order of magnitude better than what we have right now.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* :)
APK
P.S.=> That's all I've REALLY got to say (thanks, lol)... apk
Why do marketers have a right to my information?
http://computer.howstuffworks....
It appears posted in 1999, I know I read it a long time ago and thought are you nuts!
Mythical uh. You do know Bin Laden used to be in Afghanistan fighting the Soviet Union with the backing of the USA right?
As for 9/11 conspiracies that's something else.
And when you've got lots and lots (and lots) of men, who all have to be fed and housed and clothed, but no minesweeping equipment - what better way to clear a minefield than to order your troops to march across it in close formation?
IIRC they used the penal battalions for that not regular troops.
Yes Zhukov was a brilliant general. You just have to read about the Battle of Khalkhin Gol where he had less troops than the Japanese (but better hardware). There losses were much different. He basically saved the Soviet Union twice. First by knocking Japan out of the field and then Germany. He relieved Moscow from being encircled and the knocked the Germans back all the way to Berlin. Had he not been pressured into speeding things up all the time by Stalin I think he could have had much smaller losses in the Eastern Front than what happened.
That's Frahnk-in-steen!
The patriot act was drawn up prior to Sept 11th, please do your homework
You can see the whitelist of allowed sites here: https://easylist-downloads.adb... - along with Google and it's Doubleclick network, other notables and other publishers and trackers not easily recognized have paid up. Adblock Plus got the install base and trust, then they change the arrangement.
There's a little box in the settings.
Next to it is the text "Allow some non-intrusive advertising"
I unchecked that box a long time ago and haven't thought about it until just now.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
One can dream
On the contrary. Allowing non-intrusive ads (by default--you can disable this feature in: Preferences) is the best thing any Adblock type program has ever done.
It's actually offering content producers a significant incentive for using ads which are less objectionable to users. The alternative is advertisers benefit by doing worse and worse things, and those who choose to block ads are silent and uncounted. This could help reverse the trend, and keep sites and advertisers honest and decent, and offer counter-incentive to irritation.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
And that isn't even what caused most of the casualties.
The Soviet policies of scorched earth combined with the military receiving priority for absolutely everything created the perfect environment for disease and famine to claim more civilian casualties than their idiotic military policies.
The Soviet government killed more Soviet civilians than the Nazi government did.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Well the Soviet Union had a lot more strategic depth to it than France. The logistics chain was much smaller to attack France. I mean Hitler invaded Ukraine just fine and that is about the same size as France.
The failure was due to organizational problems more than anything else. Claims that the Nazis had superior weapons in the Battle of France are plain bullshit. The French and British had more weapons and better weapons. However it was not easy to fight under a non-unified command and the armored corps were spread thin. While the Germans were under air cover because the front was close enough to German airfields.
The French government could have retreated to North Africa along with the Navy and in fact there were plans to do so. However there are other countries which capitulated after losing their capital before.
http://computer.howstuffworks....
It appears to of been posted in 1999, I remember reading it a long time ago thinking are you nuts!
(might be a dupe post, wasn't logged in the first time around).
i use adblock (not plus) on chrome, but i also use dnsmasq/dhcp and some scheduled scripts on my home router running tomato usb to block almost all ads on all devices.
i don't get ads, so i don't get ads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
* That's me, it's what I do/how I roll...
APK
P.S.=> "I redefine anywhere..." albeit in my case? It's everywhere... & you know it! apk
Sure, I'll stop using ABP. They have to just agree to compensate me with $1M if their ad network sends me malware. Can't guarantee that? Then I'll keep on running ABP thank you very much.
I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
Seriously - no big trick to prove 'em wrong (@ least 4-5 already gave in on that account).
Would you like their names?
Ask.
APK
P.S.=> Want more like substantiating emails, or direct speak w/ those I speak of... again, ask - then, you'll "eat your words" (poor tactic that on your end vs. myself - I'm miles ahead with backing evidence)... apk
because the war planners never had to make allowances for any posturing American generals, right? I'm sure dealing with General Patton was easy and fun, and he willingly cooperated with every suggestion.
can French kiss my A**! I have the right to control what I see on MY computer. I DO NOT want to see their highly annoying, migrain inducing ads! And with Adblock Plus and NoScript, I don't have to. Without the two browsaer plugins just mentioned, our local newspaper is almost impossible to read online there are so many of the above mentioned ads!! As I have said before, advertising on web pages is self defeating at best. If the ad is static, it will be ignored. If it is an more annoying than a static ad, it causes people to want to install plugins to block it.
Those French bastards (please pardon my use of the F word!) can eat feces and expire! They don't have a leg to stand on in such a lawsuit.
I will CONSIDER using your program the day you stop spamming like this. The irony, spamming for something supposed to fight ads.
Compared to what Europeans had already given up or compared to what North Koreans never had?
Ah yes, reveling in ungratefulness, so hip.
The French lost the war when they insisted on a defensive strategy despite outnumbering the Germans on a massive scale when most of their forces were tied up in Poland. They simply didn't have the will.
They are suing AdBlock Plus? So we all then move to the next ad blocking application. Giant ads popping up on my computer, unwanted video, unwanted audio, and unwanted tracking. At one point, I was blocking ad software sites (blocking in hosts file). Sometimes web pages would not load if I did this, so I use AdBlock Plus. I run a site. There are ads on it. Small. Reasonable. Nothing obtrusive. No media other than the picture and text. No audio, no video. Loads as fast as the rest of the page (all coming out of cache). Ad Block doesn't stop it, because its reasonable. What these guys suing Ad Block Plus are trying to do is infect my computer with their ad crap. Screw that. Another set of Ad Blocking technologies will come along, and they won't be able to sue, and they will be where they are now. They don't get to control my computer, and that's that.
The French military fares well. The French high command however sucks donkey dick during the day and llama dick during the evening, except on Sundays where it is a steady helping of duck dick.
Well, the Netherlands fell because (as usual) they were naive and incompetent and expected the Germans to respect the Netherlands' neutrality (which they didn't). The country fell after a measly FIVE days during which most of the aerial fleet was destroyed on the landing strip because high command only woke up from their little dream when the German bombers were starting to bomb things.
Please don't hate 60 millions people for the acts of some so-called leaders. You may so hate everybody, including you, considering what your so-called leaders have done in various country since 200 years.
What the hell is going on, not a single relevant comment. All i can see is patiot act and ww2 comments...what happened slashdot?! Not a single unbiased ww2 comment i'll add...fucking comedy.
Dear publishers who totally missed the point,
Fuck you.
Sincerely,
Everyone who proactively chose to install ABP and thus won't buy shit from your ads in the first place, you dolts.
This can be accomplished by embedding the ad as an image in the website, writing the website in flash, product placement, etc.
Embedding the ads as an image: Problem fucking solved. Images aren't half as obtrusive as the script ads.
Writing the website in Flash: They won't because that doesn't work for mobile users.
Product placement: see image.
Any solution that is worse as what is no will be blocked. Any solution that is less bad is a partial solution.
The problem is that the balance is lost. One end is no ads and thus no income from websites. The other end is the current mess. The website operators need to go back to the middle so users will disable ABP. NoScript, ScriptDefender and all others.
They need to regain the user's trust. That is a long way to go.
Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.
Because of course all this RAM used by hosts is free of any kind of electricity, right ? Face it APK, GP killed all your lame arguments and you're left with nothing. You've faced the same rational rebuttal over the past 15 years of spamming us with your crap and you've ignored all of it.
You can keep running around screaming "I didn't hear you!!" all you want, for us you're just a moronic relic from the past, a spam, a joke, a meme.
Especially vs. DNS or "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" added topping out @ 4++gb or more https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...
* I'm putting out verified facts from analysis - are you?
APK
P.S.=> Answer = NO - thus, again, you fail... apk
Yeah, it's not as if there was a checkbox in it's preferences to (dis-)allow these ads, and you don't get asked on first run what you want...
Oh wait, there is and you are.
"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
I really didn't know blocking ads was a matter of international warfare... but hey, whatever helps.
"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
Unlike adblock http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... paid off & sold out to NOT do so as it should....
(That's what "WE" all want, not your bullshit)
I give it to others, gratis. Do you? Hell no... you're a trolling "ne'er-do-well", lol...
As to the rest of my points being "garbage" etc.? Funny how YOU can't touch them and I shoot down every single line of utter bullshit you spout, every single time... See my p.s. below vs. your initial point especially, stupid.
I do so with facts. Not bullshit (like you).
APK
P.S.=> Admin permissions? Using my program http://start64.com/index.php?o... it lets users do what the program needs to (which is also HOW it can enable/disable hosts for "whitelisting" per site for example, nullifying your STUPID "so-called 'point'" easily, & which I've DUSTED you on completely already -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... you fool - funny how you "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" from that now, eh? Not - you're a trolling technically weak "ne'er-do-well", nothing more)
... apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
Where I utterly spanked your wannabe ass for bullshit you spewed http://developers.slashdot.org...
APK
P.S.=> DarinBob, I've also got other posts bookmarked on hosts where you spouted your crap too and you can't prove my points on hosts superiority to adblock wrong validly either - you're a joke boy... apk
was referencing the fact that we still don't know where some jewish possessions are, and are most likely in swiss vaults.
In some dusty vault in switzerland, on some dusty table probably sits some dusty cup filled with some dusty gold teeth.
See my subject-line above - you have issues. Get over them. The fact you're trolling by ac posts tells me that also. Now, if your "geek angst" is the result of my utterly technically spanking you (has to be, look @ the topic and my points vs. AdBlock you can't disprove validly)? You did that to yourself.
APK
P.S.=> It must be a terrible thing to go thru life being a "ne'er-do-well" troll such as yourself. It really must be. Look at yourself and how you act. It's quite pitiful... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
(And before anyone starts flaming me - I don't want adds any more than the next man, and use ABP myself to block them.)
OK - there's a lot of predictable slagging off here of the advertisers (with which I broadly and mostly agree). But let's not, in the process, ignore the fact that EYEO aren't exactly behaving in a spotless manner either. Summed up, their position now seems to be "Pay us, and subject to a few conditions we'll stop our add-on blocking your ads".
Well - firstly, for my part, I don't want to see even the ads that EYEO deems "acceptable". I don't want ads, full stop, and will either be near the head of the queue to blacklist anything that ABP starts letting through, or will be looking for another add-on.
But secondly, the idea of trying to EYEO trying to monetarise ABP on the basis of "We have a headlock on part of your revenue stream, but we'll let go if you pay us" is extremely questionable - whether I like what the advertisers want to send me or not, that approach strikes me as a cynical business tactic verging on the unethical, and (whilst it's always dangerous to try to second-guess the courts) I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see them make a degree of headway on their challenge. Blocking everything across the board? Probably legally fine - it's the users' choice whether or not to use the add-on, and I strongly doubt that advertisers have any right to require people to let their ads be seen. Blocking everything but sufficiently "nonintrusive" ads, again across the board? Probably fine again, on the same basis. Telling people that you'll only let their stuff through if they pay you, though? Morally broken, and dodgy legal ground; I can see how a court might quite easily judge that to be extortion.
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
Huh.. I always thought he was German.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
Said the AC ...
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
IBM sold them computers, so a fair bit.
This and...
Facebook, contrary to popular belief, is not an international official authority whereby everyone must identify themselves to prove that they are allowed access to sites across the planet.
Facebook is a goddam revenue generator and its members' information is the commodity.
While Facebook can and will terminate an account for violations of terms and conditions, Facebook can't throw your ass in jail.
I don't use my real name on Facebook. My employer asked for my Facebook name so he could cruise it. I told him I don't have one.
He said get one.
I did.
The fucking site had not one single solitary entry except for the default Profile picture and a blank timeline.
Then I just deactivated that empty account and told them they banned me.
When he asked me why they did that, I told him I didn't bother to ask.
Then he told me to get a LinkedIn account ...
See above.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
It's this post. Stick to using it. The fact trolls downmod it constantly says everything. They can't prove you wrong.
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
Advertiser redirectors specifically, & I've shown he's a technically inferior liar here too http://slashdot.org/comments.p... LITERALLY SAYING He won't say something unless he knows its true? Ahem: BULLSHIT -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... right there in black & white...
* Hilarious - utterly hilarious!
(Your "so-called 'experts'" are wannabes that spout fables (lies) & are easily shot to pieces with facts...)
APK
P.S.=> Now, when "the great raymorris" (not, great bullshitter is more like it) *TRIED* to shoot his weak piehole off on hosts? I utterly ANNIHILATED HIM, making raymorris "eat his words" http://it.slashdot.org/comment... and, truth be told? OTHER SLASHDOTTERS TESTIMONIALS BY THE 100's DID IT, since they use hosts files http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
... apk
I'm sick of advertisers and marketers thinking that just because they have some thing to sell that they have the right to flash their shit in my face every fucking place I go on the Internet. AdBlock is a godsend and protection from those ass-wipes who think "free speech" entitles them to force their message into my world. Well, fuck you, advertisers.
Does that. ClarityRay makes adblock useless. ClarityRay can't affect hosts files users by comparison.
That's a very simplistic reduction of what actually happened. IBM bears no responsibility for either the Holocaust or how Nazi's misused Hollerith machines sold long before the war.
I don't do FB or any of the social networking sites, never have.
Actually, I've found having none of these type sites is good in that I often work areas of privacy or require clearance. Not having so much info out there is a good thing usually in my fields of employment.
I've never had an employer ask to look for one, much less insist that I have one?!?!
Might I ask what area of IT you work in? What part of the country?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
A common misconception. We could argue about the expense of the Maginot Line, but it did protect the Franco-German border well and served for economy of force. The French plan had the Germans go through the Belgian plains, where they would meet the best French forces and the BEF. General Gamelin thought that would be the main battle.
The French plan did not envision a drive through the Ardennes Forest, thinking that essentially impassible for large military operations. They were wrong. The Battle of the Bulge in 1944 showed that it was very defensible terrain, but there were enough roads to allow offensives to pass through it. Since the Ardennes was Belgian, and the Belgians had no intention of holding it, and the French had no plans to move forward into it. the German offensive went through as the Germans planned, and hit a very weak section of the French line.
Exactly why General Gamelin thought the Ardennes was impassible is unclear. General Georges, the man responsible for carrying out Gamelin's strategy, wanted to backstop that area of the front with an army, but couldn't get permission.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Try Soviet lack of tactics. Stalin's purges had resulted in having commanders at many levels new to their jobs and not understanding what to do. Stavka (the Soviet High Command) had to issue an order in 1941 that commanders were not supposed to space their anti-tank guns out evenly, but concentrate them where the most danger was. Soviet attacks were similarly inept.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
The diplomatic situation was more complicated than you suggest.
In 1939, the Soviets had a (very reasonable) fear of being attacked. The Japanese did attack them that summer, but they were mostly worried about Germany. They therefore set out to make a military alliance with France and Britain. While there were other factors contributing to the breakdown of negotiations, the French and British didn't take them seriously at all. Until it was too late, the British envoy had enough authority to pee without clearing it with London, and not much more. Since Stalin was after some security, rather than being set up as the fall guy for a German attack, he tried plan B, which was an alliance with Germany, which he thought would likely keep the peace between them while he rebuilt the Red Army.
In return for resources, the Soviets received stuff from Germany (less than Hitler promised, of course), some additional territory to use as a buffer, and time to rebuild the army. It turned out not to be enough time (a German attack in 1942 instead of 1941 would have had a lot more difficulty), and Stalin refused to believe Germany would attack when they did, but it was a lot more favorable to the Soviets than what the West was offering.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Who are GESTE and the French Internet Advertising Bureau anyhow? Are they Nazi dictators? I have never bought anything because of an ad I have seen while surfing if anything I would avoid buying it. Wall mart has it all so I buy everything I need there. If those bums can't make money because their ads are being blocked then or thats at least what they are thinking. They should think of a different way to advertise then. Adblocker Plus can't block ads on a billboard or street corner sign. I hate commercials and I havent watched any ads or commercials in over 5 years and it does not effect what I need to buy. F*** em if they don't like it. Watch them lose the lawsuit, idiot dictators....lol
Sorry, what? Soviets were killing Jews? You have no idea about the actual history.
Soviets allowed Jews to settle close and in the capital.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The architect of Soviet bloodbath was Jew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
To make long story short - fuck not Soviets but you and whoever was teaching you history.
The world wide web existed for at least a decade before advertizing carpetbaggers decided it needed to be monetized. Now its been a couple of decades and has anyone looked at the modern internet WITHOUT any kind of adblocker? Imagine watching a show on a 42 inch television where the actual program is restricted to a 4x5 inch rectangle in the center surrounded by a dozen ads with at least two different competing audio streams, four different video streams (which suck enough bandwidth to cause the program you are actually interested in watching to "buffer" every 5 seconds), with the four ads in the corners flashing at you like strobes, all with different rates. Oh, and then one of these ads decides to take over your television so it will only show the home shopping channel.
This is the modern internet and it is not a pretty sight.
If you give an inch, they take a foot. Any time you give an overarching exception to the rule of law, it will be abused. I'm not interested in comparing our freedom losses relative to anything or anyone else. We can do better than we are doing now. For example:
--US Gov. can hold you indefinitely without pressing charges. (gitmo)
--Big data queries without warrants can cause false positive flags on innocent civilians
--Recent choke hold fiasco has shed light on the police force being slapped on the wrist for killing using methods outside their own approval
--CIA lies to senate in front of the world (about spying on citizens). Faces no charges or repercussions
--Michael Chertoff (got money from US citizens for backscatter machines without the proper vetting and RFPs)
Might I ask what area of IT you work in? What part of the country?
I don't mind the question, but the answer is moot.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
everyone can write their own ad-blocker, I have my own, neoeblock on github, firefox has good support for blockers. everyone like money, everyone hate ads. blocking ads is very personal options.
If hosts only blocks bad.example.com & allows good.example.com hosts can do it (why on earth you would is beyond me - ads are ads - stealing your bandwidth & speed you paid for monthly, OR WORSE, infecting you... no thanks).
APK
P.S.=> You'd allow those subdomains by NOT adding good.example.com (just in case I need to say this) in a blocked fashion, that is... apk
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It might be a little bit of both. I have found a couple of references that state that before Belgium declared neutrality in 1936 that France did not want to cut them off. After 1936 they had little time to complete the fortifications.
Indeed.
A pity how poorly he was treated after the war's end by the very country he fought so hard to protect!
It's obvious you're staring into a mirror, yet attempting to project your issues onto others.
Hosts files make me "haul ass" online, safer & more reliably w/ less redundancy + more efficiency than *ANY* other single solution alone... period/fact!
Better than 95%++ of the time to to my favorite sites since they're at the TOP of my hosts file, unaltered, cached by another kernelmode subsystem (local diskcache) & thus less messagepassing to another kernelmode subsystem in the SAME FASTER RING OF PRIVELEGE (tcpip.sys) in the IP stack no less!
AND
What helps even MORE there?
Believe-it-or-not, sites like /. (news aggregators) - they keep me from "hopping all over" calling out to remote DNS (OpenDNS, best in their business, imo) getting often BETTER summaries & opinions from responders than articles put out initially many times (you get often valid critique thus, not "furthering an agenda"...).
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You, by way of comparison?
YOU'RE USING MORE:
Power
CPU Cycles
RAM
Complexity
Moving parts for MORE THAN POTENTIAL breakdown or exploit
DNS redirect poisonings
etc./et al
Not I...
APK
P.S.=> Thus, why'd you'd attempt what you're doing makes no sense: I'm doing MORE with less moving parts & yet with less - double bonus, & for free, with the BEST bar-none program for doing so (that is itself only 1 moving part that generates its own datafiles *if* need be when they're missing on disk for load into memory too):
REAL BIG on that here - why?
"A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein
&
"Less is more" = GOOD engineering...
... apk
It's true that I'm a troll in the old-school sense of engaging someone with the specific intention of getting a rise out of them. However, what is also true, and abundantly clear, is that you are suffering some kind of mental health problem, and professional health care is well advised.
Allowing non-intrusive ads is an option in Adblock Plus, that you can set as you see fit during the initial configuration step (it's all explicitly spelled out). And my understanding is that the money they're asking for that categorization is basically a fee for the service of verifying that the ad is, indeed, "non-intrusive" under their established criteria.
Let's settle at 10-20% of the prewar population, then.
Yeah ... mmmmh lemme think about it ... not!!! That's not how science and logic work. You sound like a religious nutjob saying Earth is flat or it was created in 9 and a half days. And we should believe that because he says so and thus it's facts.
Still waiting on those benchmarks.
Can my previous comment really have shut you up?! . Maybe you're out xmas shopping or something today? Heaven forfend that you might actually be visiting a mental health professional.
SPH
YOU'RE USING MORE: Power, CPU Cycles, RAM, & adding complexity, adding more moving parts for MORE THAN POTENTIAL breakdown or exploit + DNS redirect poisonings.
Not I...
APK
P.S.=> I'm just using what you already natively have to go faster, safer, & more reliably online vs. you using "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" + DNS, stupidly... apk
You can't prove my points on hosts superiority over adblock wrong here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* See my subject-line above: THAT IS A FACT!
APK
P.S.=> And you know it... apk
I don't see how you can say that: You guys can't prove me wrong on a damn thing here, and you KNOW it... lol!
APK
They know most folks won't dig into adblock's settings to do it & adblock can't do a fraction of what hosts can, period, for more speed, security, reliability, & more -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
FACT.
Additionally: My ware is not a malware - is THAT "the best you've got"? Apparently so. You fail again.
Let's see YOUR benchmarks (that you don't have), ok? Ones done by a reputable source, such as I produced regarding adblock's INEFFICIENCY in RAM + CPU overuse -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...
To alter the hosts file using my program, it has to use USER SETUP by hand (so they know it's happening) allowance to do so in the program's shortcut (many do this). You fail, again.
APK
P.S.=> Another fact? You have failed TOTALLY on those accounts above and more... lol! apk
It would also be a lot more expensive, in several ways, to run the fortress line through the heavily populated and industrialized northern border of France. Running it along the Meuse through the Ardennes, on the other hand, could have been a very good idea.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
See subject, here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... from you? No, of course not. There NEVER is - just more of your games & bullshit as usual that I easily blow away.
APK
P.S.=> Ask Microsoft about checking off settings in a shortcut stupid (I didn't make it that way - they did, AND, yes it works - however, it appears a dolt like yourself can't comprehend that)... apk
So, just to be absolutely clear, you're telling us that, on Windows, a non-admin user can modify a very sensitive file such as hosts without *ever* being asked the admin password ? yes or no ?
If I take my laptop on which I don't have admin rights nor the admin password, what is the exact manipulation I need to perform to achieve such a modification ?
All you need to do is read this which has shown all your so-called points wrong.
Still waiting the benchmarks of your claims.
Fact: You have none. I've put them up by the truckload https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... eating cpu/ram like mad yet not doing a fraction of what hosts can for speed, security, & reliability)
&
I've ALSO cited the OBVIOUS that when you "layer on more" (your stupid use of local DNS & on a separate system too, raising power bills stupidly for NO GOOD REASON), you consume more, needlessly
( - & open yourself to things like DNS poisoning (of which mind you, 99.999% of ISP DNS servers are NOT patched against in the Kaminsky redirect flaw)).
APK
P.S.=> It has been a pleasure watching a worm like you annihilate yourself - "no small wonder" you're posting by AC: You can't backup your utter bullshit whereas by comparison, I put out valid studies on AdBlock's inferiority on MANY LEVELS vs. hosts (& you know it) & you certainly CAN'T PROVE MY POINTS WRONG either -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
No, "the best you got" there? Bogus downmods you CAN'T VALIDLY JUSTIFY & not disproving what I wrote there validly, you little punk... lol! apk
All this without *ever* asking for the admin password (that the user may not have) ? Neat escalation privilege you got there." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 12, 2014 @03:44AM (#48579839)
A USER sets up the shortcut for my program himself, dumbass using the runas admin option: It's HOW that's done (no 'escalation of privilege' from my app, you dumb little fuck, lol...)
APK
P.S.=> Want to look STUPID, even more, dumbshit? Keep coming... Then again:
Of course, a PUNK like you posts by ac & has NO SHAME when you open your mouth as you did above & stuck your FOOT in it, defeating yourself via your stupidity as I can't "pin it" to you from here forward if you had the balls to post with your registered LUSER account (when I know DAMN WELL you have an account here pussy), since I have tossed your bullshit into the crapper here SO MANY TIMES, especially including this one HUGE BLUNDER of yours, that it's not even FUNNY anymore, you incompetent little wannabe... apk
Nope: 15 things adblock can't do as well as how inefficient adblock is http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Hosts protect globally. Adminuser sets hosts to protect all users on said machine easily (migrating it to network nodes via scripts on chronjobs/scheduled tasks OR via logon scripts even).
What YOU fail to understand, is that even on a LAN/WAN where a user *may* not have admin rights, that an admin class user can implement hosts for them, at each desktop/workstation, FOR users who are minus admin priveleges... stupid.
APK
P.S.=> Might as well "telegraph" HOW I am going to make the little dumbshit troll "run, forrest: run!!!" & "eat his words" on this "point" of his (easily tossed away & disproven yet again, unlike his inability to PROVE MY POINTS WRONG VALIDLY (which clearly, he can't, since all he has is downmods to *try* to "hide" his utter fail)... apk
"Warning: You need administrator privileges to install Adblock plus" from http://forums.mozillazine.org/...
* So, WHAT was that you were saying about "admin priveleges" stupid?
APK
P.S.=> Hosts can be setup NETWORK WIDE to every pc desktop node easily by admins since hosts protect globally -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... so how do you LIKE "EATING YOUR WORDS" chump? About as much as you did on 'whitelisting being impossible in hosts' too (BIG FAIL on your part)? Absolutely -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... you STUPID little shit... lol!
... apk
"Warning: You need administrator privileges to install Adblock plus" from http://forums.mozillazine.org/...
* So, WHAT was that you were saying about "admin priveleges" stupid?
APK
P.S.=> Second time = Hosts can be setup NETWORK WIDE to every pc desktop node easily by admins (by logon scripts &/or scheduled tasks-chronjob run scripts) since hosts protect globally -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
So how do you LIKE "EATING YOUR WORDS" chump?
About as much as you did on 'whitelisting being impossible in hosts' too (BIG FAIL on your part)? Absolutely -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... you STUPID little shit... lol!
... apk
The problem with online advertising is that on most pages 80% is ads and 20% is content. And not just 80% placed around the edges and at the bottom, no, it is constantly right in your face, over and over again. Online advertisers need to drastically change their approach to be welcome by web users. Put the ads on the right side of a page or at the bottom, or alternatively show me an ad upfront that I can close at will. Above all, show me something that is actually worthwhile looking at or clicking on.
YOU LOSE AGAIN (as per your "ne'er-do-well" usual, fool) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> See subject-line & that link dumbfuck... apk
See subject: We're wondering for 3 yrs now when you can stop running from proving apk wrong all the time vs his points herehttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6328725&cid=48548865 instead of minus modding it to try hide it (as you did THIS very post before, here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... since it shows your utter stupidity) That's not working well for you so you know. You look stupid in fact for it (and you KNOW it, hence your mod down of this post in that 2nd link, the first time I posted it).
A FREE hosts program adds speed, security, & reliability, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
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A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
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* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
And "run as admin" will not ask for any password *ever* ?
So I, a normal user without admin privileges, install your neat program, add a shortcut, click on "run as admin" and hosts will be modified ? without ever entering an admin password or having to call the sysadmins at my work to allow it ? (because let me tell you: they won't allow it. ever.)
To sum up what you said: a non-admin user installs your program, creates a shortcut, clicks on "run as admin" and it can modify any filesystem (such as hosts) without entering a password. And you don't call it an escalation ?
Unless of course you "forgot" to say that he will need either the password or the authorization from an admin to do so the first time ? is that what you did ? because the other option is that you're dishonest and/or incompetent.
ps: you should have read the whole post about Adblock+ (supposedly) requiring admin privileges (on SeaMonkey and in 2008, you got nothing more specific and outdated ?) before sharing it with us. You completely misread it (as per your usual yourself, nothing out of the ordinary). Worse thing is I don't know whether you just read the title of a forum post and thought ("oh yeah! in your face dumbass ac") or you really thought we wouldn't read it. So now, go re-read it and you will see your *huge* fail by sharing that crappy link.
And lastly, what YOU fail to understand is that the admin class user will *REFUSE* to implement hosts for us here (and he's right because he's a real sysadmin, not an unqualified wannabe plumber like you). stupid.
mwouhahahaha, epic fail from apk. you should go read that 2008's forum thread because it doesn't say what you think. summary: a warning given to a user, he rebooted and ABP was working fine with no needs for admin whatsoever. how weird (not!). ABP *never* asked for any admin privilege over here and anyone I know (and it's almost 2015 dude. a 2008's post, pffff, is that the best you got ?). APK *epic* fail #16480 right here. worse part is that you posted it literally dozen of times all over this article thus ridiculing yourself even more.
what were you saying next ?
oh yeah, "the hosts can be setup network wide". the starting point of the discussion that you fail (again) to address was that our sysadmin won't do that. period. so we are left with our nice browsers and the easy, simple, efficient, automatic way to block ads is to use ABP, because it's impossible for us to modify hosts without either admin privileges or sysadmin authorization.
as for your crap about whitelist, it cannot be done in practice because I (and many other not brain-limited like you) use many tabs at once and I won't go through the bothering and unpractical process of switching on and off hosts based on which tab I am when ABP does all of it automatically. (add to it that you need admin privilege to do the on/off of hosts every time and it becomes terrifying how insecure your solution can be)
my, my, my, you're so off-the-mark that it ain't believable anymore. you must be either the worst pathological idiot ever or a bot.
See subject: YOU FAIL, & this link (shows you fail on whitelists too) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... where even on mozillaforums it proves my subject-line.
Makes you stupid that, easily: Using your OWN b.s. against you was TOO easy!
You're also stupid using more moving parts complexity & room for breakdown (lol, adblock's a part that don't even WORK RIGHT anymore since adblock sold out to advertisers) & are inefficient as hell, doing less on their end (when hosts do far more from a faster more efficient level of operations in kernelmode as a native part you already have).
APK
P.S.=> Face facts: You can call me names ALL YOU LIKE, but it's you with "egg on your face", on every stupid "so-called 'point'" of yours I utterly trashed, easily... & thus? Well, lol - you just KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it, now don't you?? Ah, of course you do:
THIS?This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, vs. "ne'er-do-well" limited in skill trolls such as yourself - thanks for making ME look GOOD, & yourself by way of comparison? LOL, well - "not so good" (stupid)... apk
"Warning: You need administrator privileges to install Adblock plus" http://forums.mozillazine.org/...
See subject-line: YOU FAIL, stupid... & that, IS that.
APK
P.S.=> Your sysadmins a dumb fuck then if he can't write a batch or script to migrate hosts across a LAN/WAN to network endpoints like desktops then... Hey: YOU'RE BOTH WEAK & STUPID!
He's just like you then since adblock's crippled by default & sold out to advertisers to NOT DO ITS JOB fully, and adblock can't touch hosts for both efficiency &/or abilities http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you can NEVER, *ever*, get the best of those points proving them wrong or have your weak results not shown that? Score = APK/Hosts 15++, & ACTroll/AlmostALLAdsBlocked = 0 (fact) ... apk
I'll decide what gets downloaded onto it. I really wish these commercial sites would just stop cluttering the internet. They just make it harder to find the good stuff.
I think I'll kick in a few more bucks to AdBlock, today. I'm happy to donate to people like that, (although I wish Wikipedia would've given me a cookie when I donated, but ok, maybe they did, and I deleted it).
-- sudon't
Air-ride Equipped
There can't be a person watching this who doesn't feel a little sympathy for you. Seek the professional help you so clearly need, for your own sake.
here is what that user says the next day:
Hello to you all
Strange enough; this morning when I started up os x and later SeaMonkey AdBlock Plus did load itself at start up without me doing anything.
So I am back on track. This thing happen to me before in XP. It must be something that I don't quite understand???
option 1: he was a victim of the classical black magic spell that disappears when rebooting *OR* option 2: he made a wrong turn and you can't read.
seriously, a 6-post forum thread from 2008 where there is not problem to begin with (a problem fixed by a reboot is usually a wrong manipulation by the user) and where a user acknowledges he doesn't understand is the best you got to pretend ABP needs admin privileges (come on, everyone knows that it's not true, you cannot even pretend that ABP asked for admin privilege when you installed it, can you ?) ? seriously ? you're hilarious ...
on the other hand, hosts *always* require admin privileges to be modified, even using "run as admin" on a shortcut needs to be allowed the first time and the application run *as admin* every. single. time. there is no way out of that, it's that way *by design*.
as for your lunatic rants:
Your sysadmins a dumb fuck then if he can't write a batch or script to migrate hosts across a LAN/WAN to network endpoints
learn English stupid: he can write it, but he *refused* as in : he doesn't want to do it because it's an idiotic solution. simple English enough for you dear troll ?
You can call me names ALL YOU LIKE
don't reverse role here dude, *you* started the name-calling because *you* were left with zero valid arguments after this post crippled all your dumb points (plus the whitelist/admin problem with hosts). then you started whining about power bill, talking third person and calling everyone stupid-dumbass-troll-whatever exactly *because* you had nothing left.
"Warning: You need administrator privileges to install Adblock plus" FROM http://forums.mozillazine.org/... so what's that YOU said about admin priveleges & hosts?
By the way: Hosts are PROTECTED by those priveleges + ACL & WFP against exploitation: Thus, It's a GOOD THING (so they aren't easily "bushwhacked").
Your sysadmin's a fool *IF* he thinks adblock are even a FRACTION as powerful or useful as hosts (which you PROVE by being unable to prove my points wrong here in favor of hosts giving users more speed, security, & reliability over "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
You also failed on hosts being able to whitelist sites (by not entering a blocking entry for them in hosts, you have whitelisted them - period).
YOU FAIL & YOU KNOW IT.
APK
P.S.=> Get back to us when you can show us adblock does more than hosts -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which will be on the "12th of never", lmao ("that ain't happenin'", ever)... apk
You can't prove adblock does more than hosts for added speed, security, & reliability http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - thank you (for being so stupid, making my case for me)!
APK
P.S.=> You fail, badly, lol... apk
Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:
1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
9.) Keep you off dns request logs
10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
13.) Block out trackers
14.) Block spam mails sources
15.) Block phishing mails sources
"?"
* Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.
APK
P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?
That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!
... apk
FAIL #1 for you: Reply from Wladimir Palant: "Adblock Plus installation requires administrative privileges doesnâ(TM)t help either." FROM https://adblockplus.org/develo...
LMAO!
By way of comparison? Hosts use admin privelege + ACL & WFP to PROTECT HOSTS from exploit, stupid... it's a GOOD thing (my program furthers that by applying read-only attributes to the file also & when resident, nigh constantly, thus NOTHING is going to corrupt hosts between those things...).
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FAIL #2 on your part: Hosts can whitelist entries for sites by simply NOT ENTERING A BLOCKING ENTRY FOR SAID SITE, stupid! You can also EASILY DISABLE HOSTS via my program (1 click easy)... it's another way to achieve access to sites that are blocked (why on earth you'd do that, or takes ads, boggles the mind - they infect you &/or steal your money by stealing your bandwidth you pay monthly to be online with).
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BIGGEST FAIL OF ALL: You *STILL* can't touch the fact that hosts do FAR MORE, with far less resources consumed by far vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (sold out & crippled by default no less NOT DOING ITS JOB fully)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
(LMAO - The "best" you can manage is to avoid that like mad, & to downmod it... weak, lame, & YOU FAIL (badly)).
APK
P.S.=> I called you stupid, since you are, clearly! You merit it based on ALL of the above - and you know it (prove otherwise: You can't)... apk
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I didn't read the post, I never do when I can see in a fraction of a second that it is in your CHARACTERISTICALLY disturbed "style".
And really, this isn't about the failings and weaknesses of your application - those have been well documented many times in various places - but about your self-destructive behavior. See, I only need to keep a single book mark, and return to it every few days. You on the other hand are clearly tracking dozens and dozens of these threads, to the point where I wonder how the rest of your life can even be functional. I can only assume that you are in fact not functional in the way most normal adults are. You owe it to yourself, and those around you, to seek the professional help you clearly desperately need. Do it, do it today. Do it for yourself, do it for your mom, whatever motivation you need, just do it. Seriously.
Its kind of odd that you persist in using "troll" as a pejorative, when I already explained that I actually am a troll, in the original sense. You dont' just feed the troll, you present a sumptious banquet, a smorgasboard of disturbed behavior. Have you considered consulting a mental health professional?
Strange enough; this morning when I started up os x and later SeaMonkey AdBlock Plus did load itself at start up without me doing anything.
if only apk could do the same with his brain: go to sleep and wake up fully functional, as opposed to his current unable-to-read self.
as for your other points, you have been told a thousand times already that whitelisting means: I want the same ads enabled on my favorite website and disabled everywhere else automatically. you keep acting as if you were not explained that numerous time which shows bad faith (just like you ignoring the quote above does)
our sysadmin is fully competent and has a sysadmin job, contrary to your unemployed self (fired from your last job).
as for showing the other limitations of hosts: been done there and in many other places and you keep acting in bad faith again as if that never happened.
and we're still waiting for the benchmarks of your unfounded claims.
fail #1: so we now get a post about a release candidate that causes problem with seamonkey in 2009 ? well, at least we're getting closer to now (it's 2015 in a fortnight, remember ?)
fail #2: you've been explained thousands time what whitelisting means: the same ads enabled on favorite website and disabled everywhere else automatically. your bad faith has no limit
fail #3: you've been asked for benchmarks for years and couldn't show any ever, so your claims are moot and irrelevant. nevertheless these claims have been rebutted several times over the past 10 years or so and again there.
you therefore proved once again that you can only show bad faith and your stupidity is without limits.
see over there, besides adblock does: whitelisting, wildcards, no admin permission required, can be user-defined, and so on ... (all thing hosts cannot do)
You *still* can't prove my points wrong on hosts superiority to adblock http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
AND
I've shown that hosts are PROTECTED by ACL & more (a good thing vs. exploit)
AND
Yes - you *CAN* whitelist in hosts (by not adding blocking entries for any particular site etc.)
See subject-line above: You fail.
(BADLY)
APK
P.S.=> 15 to nothing in favor of hosts? No questions asked - YOU, fail (lol)... apk
LIE #1: Wladimir Palant says: "Adblock Plus installation requires administrative privilege" FROM https://adblockplus.org/develo...
LIE #2: Hosts can whitelist easily by NOT adding blocking entries for any particular site/server/host-domain-subdomain
AND
YOU *STILL* (lol) can't prove my points wrong in favor of hosts over adblock, so see subject-line above & this -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
You fail, badly: As badly as "AlmostALLAdsBlocked", selling out to NOT TO ITS JOB, CRIPPLED BY DEFAULT & being inefficient as hell!
APK
P.S.=> Get back to us when you can show us adblock does more than hosts (not 15++x less) & for less resources consumed in CPU (flooring it as adblock does) & RAM (4++gb @ a time, what a JOKE adblock is -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... )... apk
From hosts being superior to "AlmostALLAdsBlocked"-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... by far (hugely inefficient, redundant, inferior, & crippled by default, SOLD OUT to NOT DO ITS JOB, which is far less in abilities than hosts are, no less)..
APK
P.S.=> An inferior, redundant, & inefficient "so-called 'solution'" in "AlmostALLAdsBlocked", fails vs. hosts - badly
(AdBlock's crippled by default & SOLD OUT TO NOT DO ITS JOB right-> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
AND
AdBlock does FAR less than hosts (by far, 15++x less in fact) & yet also totally massively inefficiently in CPU use (chewing up 100% of it flooring it) & RAM use (4++gb? LMAO!)-> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
That's ALL not helping you @ ALL, lol... you lose/fail... apk
You have failed (hosts whitelist easily - don't add blocking entries) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & I work for myself & have been for years, doing well - my money works for ME, not the other way around, lol, like a STOOGE like you apparently (lol, it's "noble work" you're doing - making others rich & making yourself peanuts) & I have shown I can produce good wares - you can't & haven't too, "oddly" (not, you're a no skill troll in computing).
Hosts are, by far & away, the SUPERIOR SOLUTION for added speed, security, & reliability online (+ more) vs. adblock - as I don't see you proving my points wrong from that 1st link above, now do I? Nope... score 15 (hosts/myself), 0 (you the ac troll/adblock).
APK
P.S.=> You fail, badly (& you know it): AdBlock can't do a *FRACTION* of what hosts can for more speed, security, reliability, & more - AND - hosts are FAR MORE EFFICIENT -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... on RAM + CPU usage (yet hosts do FAR MORE too, lol), & hosts aren't "sold out" to advertisers to NOT do their job: AdBlock *IS* sold out thus, & crippled by default -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... - explain that? You can't, you FAIL, & THAT, is truly, that... apk
"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" from-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Get back to us when you can show us adblock (crippled by default and sold out to not do its job by default as well as massively inefficient in RAM and CPU use in comparison to hosts, as well as not doing a fraction of what hosts can for more speed, security, and reliability too) does more than hosts can, more efficiently.
* You'll never be able to do that or you would have by now.
APK
P.S.=> You can't and you have failed - keep "running" there, "forrest" (lmao)... apk
you need
Hosts files aren't granular, they work at the host level, by definition. I prefer a more sophisticated, granular method.
See subject: AdBlock can't do a fraction of what hosts can http://slashdot.org/comments.p... for more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity online!
AdBlock also HORRIBLY INEFFICIENT too (doing less, lol, YET USING MORE, 4++GB of RAM more/100% CPU https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... )
Worse still, "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" DOESN'T EVEN DO ADBLOCKING RIGHT BY DEFAULT, since it's paid off by advertisers to be crippled http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...
* To each his own...
APK
P.S.=> The only "granular" thing I see here is the amount of ads that'll be slipping thru adblock's INTENTIONALLY CRIPPLED "defense" like sand thru a sieve (along with TONS of RAM & CPU too, lol, see links above) into your system, stealing your bandwidth + allowing you to be infected possibly by maliciously coded ads etc. - et al (sophisticatedly, lol)... apk
See subject: You *need* it vs.things hosts can do that adblock can't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & you've YET to prove it wrong in its points showing hosts add more speed, security, reliability & more!
* Especially vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & sold out to advertisers http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... AND inefficient as hell (4++gb RAM & 100% CPU consumed) https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... )
APK
P.S.=> When you ac trolls have to resort to your illogical & off topic bs as you've done? I've clearly won!
... apk
hey!! be nice with my baby Peter !!
I mean, it's not completely his fault, his mom (my sis') smoked a lot while preg and I was a bit - mmmmh, what did the judge call it again, oh yeah right - "abusive".
Love Peter,
Dad.
Even on some sites only I just make hosts inactive via rightclick menus in my program for any site I wanted ads active on, & then activate hosts again for other sites (easily).
Not entering things to block in hosts also functions as a whitelist (by not blocking said item @ all whatsoever).
* BEST PART OF ALL IS THIS: You *still* can't show adblock does MORE than hosts for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity AND it has no effect on DNS issues when hosts do correcting them also -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
WRONG: You DO need admin permissions to even INSTALL AdBlock (its creator W. Palant was even quoted on that by myself) - so you FAIL, yet again (lol).
Lastly: Hosts are PROTECTED by ACL, WFP, & when you run my program, read-only attributes applied - it's a GREAT thing so that hosts are protected vs. exploit (far better than "almost ALL Ads Blocked" crippled by default like it is, not doing its job!).
APK
P.S.=> You're stupid for accepting ads @ all since ads steal your bandwidth & infect you (like mad). Evidences to the latter are here http://developers.slashdot.org... , here http://developers.slashdot.org... , & lastly here http://developers.slashdot.org... (BY THE TRUCKLOAD)... apk
See subject-line: You still can't prove adblock does more than hosts for more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity + hosts fix DNS security issues & other shortcomings, complimenting it -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
(Especially since the "best you've got" is effetely & vainly downmodding that post, yet *NEVER* proving its points wrong either, & now doing your offtopic illogical b.s. - lol!).
* YOU FAIL!
APK
P.S.=> You fail, badly... apk
See my subject-line above, & this (YOU FAIL) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> Get back to us when you can show us "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" does MORE, & more efficiently, than hosts files do (never gonna happen) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (especially since you can't manage to show adblock does more & more efficiently than hosts do for added speed, security, reliability & even anonymity - instead, you DOWNMOD that post to *try* to vainly & effetely "hide it", & you're only exposing your UTTER FAIL in doing so, lol!)... apk
See subject above, & "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... on adblock needing admin permissions to even INSTALL, lol
&
Enabling/disabling ads (stupid as enabling them is considering ads infect us nigh constantly & steal our bandwidth we pay out for CONSTANTLY) is easy using my program: Rightclick its popup menus or trayicon menus to do so, easily... you fail again.
FUNNIEST PART OF ALL IS THIS:
YOU STILL CAN'T SHOW US THAT ADBLOCK (crippled by default & sold out to advertisers no less to NOT DO ITS JOB) does more for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity than hosts do -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - no, instead, ALL YOU CAN MANAGE is to *try* to VAINLY & EFFETELY "hide it" with downmods instead, since you KNOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE ME WRONG THERE.. lol!
LMAO! You? Fail... badly, as always - Score = APK/Hosts 15, "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" 0 - as always!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly, some common-sense: Using MORE PROGRAMS isn't FREE moron - the fact you have to "layer on" MORE (dns/adblock etc.) over what already exists (where I don't using hosts + firewalls, things I already have in operation natively) MEANS YOU USE MORE POWER, rather stupidly considering hosts can do what DNS &/or AdBlock do, better & more efficiently with less moving parts & complexity for exploit or breakdown - anyone knows that - nothing "rides for free", stupid... apk
Adblock does less than hosts for speed, security, & reliability http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
FACT (prove otherwise - you can't, lol, & THUS YOU FAIL!)
Whitelisting in hosts (why you'd do that for ads boggles the mind - they steal bandwidth you paid for & INFECT US...) is easy: Don't enter things you don't want blocked OR just rightclick my program's trayicon OR rightclick popup menus to enable/disable hosts (simple) - you FAIL, again.
Admin permissions on AdBlock to even INSTALL it? Ok - time to let Wladimir Palant, "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" (crippled by default & sold out to advertisers to NOT DO ITS JOB RIGHT, lol, no less) speak on that account, again (since you can't read):
"Adblock Plus installation requires administrative privileges" - Wladimir Palant FROM -> https://adblockplus.org/develo...
APK
P.S.=> YOU FAIL, 3x in a row: "You're 'OUT'" - & you KNOW it... apk
so, you cannot read, you should just have said so:
the "own words" of Wladimir Palant taken out of context are about a problem with SeaMonkey and a Release Candidate of ABP in 2009 !!! you cannot be stupid enough to not understand that, can you ? you're shooting yourself in the foot dude. it's almost 2015, ABP doesn't need admin privileges and hosts still do (and always will by design)
as for whitelisting: you cannot have the same ads enabled on your favorite website and disabled everywhere else automatically, so no, hosts don't whitelist. it's very simple basic English. dealt with it. and your crappy application requires admin privileges and multiple clicks where ABP does all of it automatically with only user permissions.
finally, you're claims are not facts. you really need to work your English up. I understand now you're not a native, but still so much lack of comprehension is appalling ...
Indeed, rinse & repeat ...
See subject & what Adblock does (hosts do better) it can't do as efficiently as hosts -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - pity that AdBlock's been PAID OFF by advertisers to NOT DO ITS JOB BY DEFAULT too, eh? LOL!
* Go on now - PROVE "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" does more & more efficiently than hosts (AdBlock's crippled by default & PAID to NOT DO ITS JOB by advertisers -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
LMAO - the *SINGLE THING* AdBlock CAN do that hosts do better (since adblock doesn't do fully, paid off not to) in blocking ads, AdBlock BLOWS 4++gb of RAM & floors CPU @ 100% to *try* to equal hosts in... lol!
(Too bad Adblock's OWN CREATOR even tells you that your SINGLE "so-called 'point'" is bullshit - you NEED admin rights to install adblock!)
AdBlock can't DO as much as hosts for added speed (adblocking FULLY in hosts, partially ONLY by adblock + hardcoding local ram cached resolves 1st too), security (blocking ads AND known bad sites - adblock can't DO the latter OR on phish/spam either - hosts do), reliability (hardcoding circumvents DNS security redirect issues AND downed DNS - adblock can't TOUCH this either), & even anonymity (blowing by DNS request logs OR dns altogether)... period/fact.
APK
P.S.=> Too bad "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" can't do a FRACTION of what hosts can, eh? AdBlock's BLATANTLY inferior + MASSIVELY INEFFICIENT too, whereas hosts by way of comparison DO MORE, & WITH LESS too (beat that with a stick)... apk
Not that it makes any difference.
Seek professional help
Hosts do more for more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity + hosts do it using less resources consumed OR added moving parts & complexity by far http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and it's hilarious watching you naysayers run from proving that wrong (impossible to do, it's fact and truth). You suggest getting professional help? Funny how you're the one that requires it: APK doesn't. He just puts that link up and watches you trolls vainly rail off topic against it, yet never ever proving apk wrong.
Show AdBlock (crippled, inefficient & sold out) does more than hosts http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Ok?
Funny you never seem to pull that one off, eh? All you do, is "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" evading that challenge... "gosh, I wonder why?" (not, lol).
APK
P.S.=> We'll be waiting until "the 12th of NEVER" for you to manage THAT little "miracle" (which is never going to happen, lol)... apk