THIS scares me more than anything... "create a 'gated community' where users would give up their anonymity and certain freedoms in return for safety" Oh yeah right....leave "safety" in charge of some government idiots, or the UN...no thanks!
How about Internet with no spam, no intrusive advertisement crap and adhering to standards? I'll take care of my system's security myself then. I'd sign up in a heartbeat.
The implementation is left as an exercise for the reader.
From your link:
"It is the only penguin to live on the equator and can survive due to the cool temperatures resulting from the Humboldt Current and cool waters from great depths brought up by the Cromwell Current."
I don't think that Humboldt Current brings cold water to Cuba.
You had enough money to buy an OS but none left over for RAM?
My home home computer is 4 years old and can do all I need (office, web/mail server, games, media, java/C development,...). However getting more RAM means either higher price because it has only DDR2 slots or upgrading motherboard - and while upgrading motherboard I'll have to upgrade CPU and graphics card. Suddenly it is not that cheap to throw more RAM on the problem.
How is a normal person going to download Firefox without IE?
How do they get Acrobat Reader? With my last computer, in additon to Acrobat Reader, I also got CD burning software and a trial version of antivirus - on a CD.
Who or what is the German Bundeswehr and why should I care?
Because everyone knows what is US navy or USAF... You should care because US has just managed to pull whole world into financial crisis, so we would appreciate if you look a bit further then inside of your borders.
Has it occurred to you that when Microsoft bundles those applications they get sued to pieces and end up paying billions in fines to the European antitrust extortionists
Do you think they will get fined if they provided both: stripped and full-featured version? EU seems to be satisfied with existence of Windows N version. Then we could take a Microsoft OS that comes with web server, mail server, SQL server, office suite, development tools, etc - and compare that to a regular Linux distro.
UAC can be shut off completely from the control panel, or selectively disabled [msdn.com].
The linked blog shows how to fine-tune UAC. However none of the options seems to apply to problem described in last paragraph of my other rant (copying to Program files from network).
Then there is the one beautiful feature that makes it work: Search.
Search is for users that don't remember where they've put things. For users that know it (or knew in previous Windows version) it is an obstacle - see my other rant.
Without DRM support, you can't play any DRM encoded files. With DRM, if you so choose, you can play any and all DRM encoded files, in addition to any and all non-DRM encoded files.
(to hell with mod points...) Imagine you have an OS that prevents you running virus infected files. You are arguing that a positive feature is the ability to turn the antivirus protection off. You are saying: it is better because in addition to possibility of running secure system it adds possibility to run infected system.
How does "you can play any and all DRM encoded files" work for you when the DRM may not give you permission to play the file under some circumstances (the network connection is down, the contend provider went belly up, the DRM protection is buggy,... )?
6. The unspoken argument. Who do I sue when the applications wrecks my business?
Response: To be honest if your business is wrecked by software then you are probably incompetent. Yah there is always a risk. That's what insurance is for.
I work for a software company that develops specialized CAD/CAM software. If our development tools break, that is a unpleasant thing but can be recovered by some overtime work. If e-mails/IM/VOIP, issue tracking or version management goes down, we can continue for a few days. But let's take our customers - if order processing goes down that is a REAL problem, if the the DB with data accumulated over years goes down, that can cost really big money, if the CAD system where the data is created breaks, that can be lived with for a few hours. If the software that drives the material processing machines (think plotters, cutters, drills,...) which work 24/7 - that... can be a disaster. These kind of businesses can be wrecked by software quite easily.
Now that can happen regardless of open/closed source. But when you say insurance - how do you think the insurance company will asses the risks and calculate the fee?
Um. You mean... they performed a test where they brought a real terrorist intending to blow up a plane in front of the detector? Hell, now I have to RTFA I guess;-(
Who amongst non-geeks really cares what the desktop looks like?
For sure I care what the window manager allows me to do in KDE as opposed to Windows. Things like "sloppy focus", raising windows on focus, copy&paste by selecting and clicking middle mouse button, multiple desktops, resizing window only vertically or only horizontally... On Linux this is not strictly part of OS (as in "the kernel"). Some of that can be considered part of OS as in "kernel + basic software". On Windows the distinction is not so clear and those features would be much closer to "being part of OS" - and yes, they do matter. May be not for secretary but for power users - certainly.
Another thing - copying from network to \program files is a no-no as long as UAC is enabled. I'm a developer so I want to copy my own executables on test system.
Purely for my own curiosity: can't you run them off the fileserver?
Possibly yes. Brief test shows that the system pops up a dialog warning about running untrusted/unsigned application from network. But that can be probably turned off somewhere, I think...
It is not the build that is doing the copying. The build ends up with.exe and a bunch.dlls on my development machine. Now I have to get one or more of them them to tester's machine. So she can see if my fix works (this is a quick test, the full test with deploying using installer will be done later when scheduled). With UAC I have to copy them to some other directory and then I can locally copy them to Program files\MyApp. Surely, the virus writers will never figure that one out.
Look. The system should protect from stupid mistakes, I agree. But UAC implementation does not allow me (the administrator of the machine!) to define that I can do this particular "dangerous" thing. Either I copy in 2 steps, or I have to drop UAC completely. I could say something about "throwing out baby with the water", but I'm not sure if there is any baby in this case.
Strange, because it uses both the "user friendly" name and the actual file name for me there. I.e. if I type "command", it finds Command Prompt. If I type "cmd", it also finds it.
As I said it can be due to the localized version. Typing "comman" still does not offer "cmd" and typing "command" offers 16-bit command.com - not cmd. In another reply I explained: typing "c" would be enough if it was normal combo that remembers last N entries and filters entry starting with that prefix - as it is done in XP.
Maybe because it is? When you can have several users on the system, each with his own locale, I don't see any way to present them with localized UI for their folders short of such directory mapping.
I don't have the file anymore, but I don't think that it offers to have multiple entries and decide based on current locale. That means that if it was German Vista even user with English locale would see "Benutzer". Also "Program files" can be localized this way. That means that if you talk someone over the phone, even if you know what localization of Vista they have, you still can't be sure what they actually see on the screen.
May be I'm weird. But a file manager is a basic tool. And a very basic variant of very basic tool that comes with OS is not telling you truth. Unacceptable. I even had a situation where I had a directory with ~10 files and the explorer's search did not return the file based on filename search - because it by default does not return files that were not indexed. I was like an idiot checking security settings, file attributes,... only to find out that I have to turn off search indexed only files. Again a very basic variant of very basic functionality tells you something that is not true. Unacceptable.
The point is that I have to type the whole name. On XP the Run combobox simply remembers last N commands I've started and only one of them starts with "c" - so with "c" I get cmd, only one starts with "r" and it is regedit, only one starts with "n" and it is notepad, etc. etc. The end result is that on Vista I have to type more than I have to type on XP.
Funny it never worked for me. Probably because I have non-english Vista. It seems to me that Vista expects me to type the "friendly name" of the app. So typing "c" or "cm" does not offer "cmd". I always have to type in all of "eventvwr", "regedit", "notepad", "write", "explorer" - the programs I use most. Finding the program by typing the executable name never works. Annoying as hell.
Another pet peeve is that explorer is lying about file and directory names. Some clever brain in MS thinks that showing "user friendly" localized name of c:\users is a good idea. Removing hidden Desktop.ini helps. Try finding that in Help.
Another thing - copying from network to \program files is a no-no as long as UAC is enabled. I'm a developer so I want to copy my own executables on test system. Doesn't matter what are the permissions, whether I'm Administrator or not, whether I copy from network to Vista or to Vista from network...
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It must be sooo nice in your world! ;-)
"According to expert estimations the amount of spam in the global Internet traffic is much more than a half. While optimists consider it to be around 60% pessimists insist it is not less than 80%."
"DDoS (i.e., brute-force flood-based attacks) have over the past 18 months consistently accounted for ~1-3% of all all inter-domain Internet traffic. ... We have seen peaks well above 5% of aggregate reported traffic, although not consistently."
How about Internet with no spam, no intrusive advertisement crap and adhering to standards? I'll take care of my system's security myself then. I'd sign up in a heartbeat.
The implementation is left as an exercise for the reader.
From your link:
"It is the only penguin to live on the equator and can survive due to the cool temperatures resulting from the Humboldt Current and cool waters from great depths brought up by the Cromwell Current."
I don't think that Humboldt Current brings cold water to Cuba.
My home home computer is 4 years old and can do all I need (office, web/mail server, games, media, java/C development, ...). However getting more RAM means either higher price because it has only DDR2 slots or upgrading motherboard - and while upgrading motherboard I'll have to upgrade CPU and graphics card. Suddenly it is not that cheap to throw more RAM on the problem.
I could tell you but then I would have to kill you.
How do they get Acrobat Reader? With my last computer, in additon to Acrobat Reader, I also got CD burning software and a trial version of antivirus - on a CD.
Because everyone knows what is US navy or USAF ... You should care because US has just managed to pull whole world into financial crisis, so we would appreciate if you look a bit further then inside of your borders.
Do you think they will get fined if they provided both: stripped and full-featured version? EU seems to be satisfied with existence of Windows N version. Then we could take a Microsoft OS that comes with web server, mail server, SQL server, office suite, development tools, etc - and compare that to a regular Linux distro.
Any of them can verify cryptographic signatures?
You don't ?! Your geek card, please!
Nope, he uses The Force, Luke.
The linked blog shows how to fine-tune UAC. However none of the options seems to apply to problem described in last paragraph of my other rant (copying to Program files from network).
Search is for users that don't remember where they've put things. For users that know it (or knew in previous Windows version) it is an obstacle - see my other rant.
(to hell with mod points ...) Imagine you have an OS that prevents you running virus infected files. You are arguing that a positive feature is the ability to turn the antivirus protection off. You are saying: it is better because in addition to possibility of running secure system it adds possibility to run infected system.
How does "you can play any and all DRM encoded files" work for you when the DRM may not give you permission to play the file under some circumstances (the network connection is down, the contend provider went belly up, the DRM protection is buggy, ... )?
I work for a software company that develops specialized CAD/CAM software. If our development tools break, that is a unpleasant thing but can be recovered by some overtime work. If e-mails/IM/VOIP, issue tracking or version management goes down, we can continue for a few days. But let's take our customers - if order processing goes down that is a REAL problem, if the the DB with data accumulated over years goes down, that can cost really big money, if the CAD system where the data is created breaks, that can be lived with for a few hours. If the software that drives the material processing machines (think plotters, cutters, drills, ...) which work 24/7 - that ... can be a disaster. These kind of businesses can be wrecked by software quite easily.
Now that can happen regardless of open/closed source. But when you say insurance - how do you think the insurance company will asses the risks and calculate the fee?
Um. You mean ... they performed a test where they brought a real terrorist intending to blow up a plane in front of the detector? Hell, now I have to RTFA I guess ;-(
Oh, I wonder why nobody else thought of that simple idea!
For sure I care what the window manager allows me to do in KDE as opposed to Windows. Things like "sloppy focus", raising windows on focus, copy&paste by selecting and clicking middle mouse button, multiple desktops, resizing window only vertically or only horizontally ... On Linux this is not strictly part of OS (as in "the kernel"). Some of that can be considered part of OS as in "kernel + basic software". On Windows the distinction is not so clear and those features would be much closer to "being part of OS" - and yes, they do matter. May be not for secretary but for power users - certainly.
Possibly yes. Brief test shows that the system pops up a dialog warning about running untrusted/unsigned application from network. But that can be probably turned off somewhere, I think ...
The bytes on the disk. Isn't it obvious? I would not complain if CreateFile("C:\Benutzer\joe\file.txt",...) was able to open the file - but it isn't.
It is not the build that is doing the copying. The build ends up with .exe and a bunch .dlls on my development machine. Now I have to get one or more of them them to tester's machine. So she can see if my fix works (this is a quick test, the full test with deploying using installer will be done later when scheduled). With UAC I have to copy them to some other directory and then I can locally copy them to Program files\MyApp. Surely, the virus writers will never figure that one out.
Look. The system should protect from stupid mistakes, I agree. But UAC implementation does not allow me (the administrator of the machine!) to define that I can do this particular "dangerous" thing. Either I copy in 2 steps, or I have to drop UAC completely. I could say something about "throwing out baby with the water", but I'm not sure if there is any baby in this case.
As I said it can be due to the localized version. Typing "comman" still does not offer "cmd" and typing "command" offers 16-bit command.com - not cmd. In another reply I explained: typing "c" would be enough if it was normal combo that remembers last N entries and filters entry starting with that prefix - as it is done in XP.
I don't have the file anymore, but I don't think that it offers to have multiple entries and decide based on current locale. That means that if it was German Vista even user with English locale would see "Benutzer". Also "Program files" can be localized this way. That means that if you talk someone over the phone, even if you know what localization of Vista they have, you still can't be sure what they actually see on the screen.
May be I'm weird. But a file manager is a basic tool. And a very basic variant of very basic tool that comes with OS is not telling you truth. Unacceptable. I even had a situation where I had a directory with ~10 files and the explorer's search did not return the file based on filename search - because it by default does not return files that were not indexed. I was like an idiot checking security settings, file attributes, ... only to find out that I have to turn off search indexed only files. Again a very basic variant of very basic functionality tells you something that is not true. Unacceptable.
The point is that I have to type the whole name. On XP the Run combobox simply remembers last N commands I've started and only one of them starts with "c" - so with "c" I get cmd, only one starts with "r" and it is regedit, only one starts with "n" and it is notepad, etc. etc. The end result is that on Vista I have to type more than I have to type on XP.
Funny it never worked for me. Probably because I have non-english Vista. It seems to me that Vista expects me to type the "friendly name" of the app. So typing "c" or "cm" does not offer "cmd". I always have to type in all of "eventvwr", "regedit", "notepad", "write", "explorer" - the programs I use most. Finding the program by typing the executable name never works. Annoying as hell.
Another pet peeve is that explorer is lying about file and directory names. Some clever brain in MS thinks that showing "user friendly" localized name of c:\users is a good idea. Removing hidden Desktop.ini helps. Try finding that in Help.
Another thing - copying from network to \program files is a no-no as long as UAC is enabled. I'm a developer so I want to copy my own executables on test system. Doesn't matter what are the permissions, whether I'm Administrator or not, whether I copy from network to Vista or to Vista from network ...