Well, technically, no amount of agreement makes a difference either.
In my experience, once they've been made too look the fool by your being proven right once or twice, they'll be more receptive to listening to your expert advice.
Find a market, advertise on mass media or in media that your customers read and then sell to them. Don't bother everyone else with your crap.
Unless you're already loaded, it's a bit late for that. Large multi-natitionals with existing business relationships already own all the mass media, so if you want to push a small local business, direct marketing is the only way you're going to get anywhere, especially if you don't have a business that relies on a storefront.
And it may suprise you, but there are actually many, many people who would rather have a person talk to them about their product than be exposed to more brainwashing... that's why telemarketing is so successful.
You know why telemarketers have a bad name? Because most of them aren't very good at it. A telemarketers job isn't to sell people, it's to find people who will buy. If you're not a person who will buy, they should be off the phone in the time it takes to find that out, which should be under 20 seconds most of the time.
Oh, and if you think of telemarketing as a hassle, then you're NOT their customer, and it'll take a long time before any loss that comes from pissing you off comes home.
When having more than your fair share is imposing real poverty upon other people, that's causing harm.
One little example:
Rich scumbags at Nike designing shoes intended to wear out quickly by intentionally understitching essential seams, colluding with rich mass media owners to brainwash everyone into thinking they NEED these shoes to be cool (respected) while exploiting children to make the shoes, wasting massive material resources replacing shoes that didn't need to have worn out, so they can continue to have way more than their share of the wealth.
Don't see any harm there? This the kind of freedom you want?
Capitalism/communism are economic systems. Dictatorships are political systems. You can have capitalist dictatorships, and you can have communist democracy.
Capitalists always defend their system of preference by associating it with freedom of opportunity, but it only works that way when you get started. Once the system is mature, the rich pretty much keep everyone else under control.
If you really wanted a free society, you'd want a democratic political system combined with a communistic economic system. You'd need a society that didn't glorify greed and materialism. If everyone recognised that having a comfortable level of prosperity was all they needed, and motivated people with respect and reputation rather than money, things would be fine.
Capitalism will NEVER lead to the end of poverty, hunger and scarcity. Why? Because those are the tools capitalists use to keep power, and they would lose their power if they were gone.
The fact that there are worse countries does not make your country better... there are much better countries than the Imperial American States.
You must have your head in the fucking clouds or something... Americas economy is in the toilet in large part because investors have woken up to the fact that fraud is RAMPANT in American companies and are pulling their money out.
That, and the fact that your country engages in criminal aggressive war. You should have stuck with the pervert... at least he wasn't a blood-thirsty fucking retard.
It should be obvious to anyone with even the slightest bit of intelligence that the population DO NOT feel that copyright is a moral or ethical law. If they did, they would not all be ignoring copyright law, now would they?
Theft is easy. It is extremely easy to take stuff from your fellow man. Yet few people do it. Why? Because they think it is wrong.
Copyright infringement is easy. The majority of people do it. Not just the youth, or the poor, or any particular group... everybody.
People talk about it in a fashion that they would never talk about shoplifting or taking tools from their neighbours garage. Why?
Because none of the people they are speaking about it to think badly of them for doing it. Because they don't think copyright laws should be on the books, they have no desire to have their taxes spent on enforcing them, and they finally have the means to make their will known in a fashion that business and government cannot ignore.
You may think I am wrong, or full of shit, or talking out of my ass. But the proof is clear: Everyone is doing it, and there is no desperation driving them to do it, therefore they do not believe in the law.
I'll agree that Microsoft are bad and all, but lets not lump them in the makers of LOTR... JRR, the father of modern fantasy, before he died, clearly expressed his wish that his books never be sold out and adapted to film. If you really must see em, for fucks sake pirate them... don't give his traitorous bitch of a daughter your cash.
"Unix won the server market because it was powerful, not because it was easy to use. Microsoft won the desktop market because it was easy to use, not because it was powerful. We're now at a convergence where we need tools that are powerful and easy to use," he said.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they both win in their markets because they were there? Unix achieved market penetration because it was given away free by AT&T, and DOS achieved market penetration because IBM gave it market penetration.
Not that I wouldn't like all my development tools to be powerful and easy to use, but neither of the aforementioned operating systems got there because they posessed these qualities. And nothing has really changed; if linux had cost just $5 a few years ago, I don't think we'd be talking about it today...
1) Insert ClusterKnoppix into every computer in the office 2) Connect laptop to office network 3) Rip rental DVD 4) Begin distributed divx compression 5) Smoke a cigarette 6) Burn DivX CD 7) Go home
We should definately sue the P2P companies for new hard drives. Then we can sue the HD companies for getting us into trouble with RIAA. Then lets sue RIAA for something... hrmm... not sure what yet, but we'll think of something...
The way you talk about slapping a widget onto software and selling it back... There is NO reason for anyone to buy software if the alterations from the free version are so meaningless and trivial.
BSD licensed programs aren't likely to be used commercially in this fashion. But they are likely to be used as freely available components that push up the baseline of what is available for a startup with nothing.
An example might be a simple embeddable database. If there is one out there under the BSD license, EVERYONE can reuse it in new commercial applications which go far, far beyond the database itself. Not selling a slightly faster database, but selling something completely unrelated, that happens to require a database.
If the aforementioned government-funded database were GPLed, and the only choices were commercial or GPL, you need to license one, and each time you hit a component you need to license, you get closer to "Not Commercially Viable Idea, Go Work For Rich Monopolist Instead"
Making BSD stuff therefore kills monopolies in a fashion that GPL stuff can't. Sure, maybe Microsoft uses aforementioned BSD database stuff to make SQL Server 2005 better and faster for cheaper, but that's not the point. The point is that a million Joe Developers doesn't need to have tons of money to give to Microsoft or Oracle in order to develop their new business ideas now. GPL code has its place, but will never be able to change the world in THIS way.
I don't know if this actually works, I just thought it was funny...
Personally, I think multiple computers, a multi-monitor workstation, remote-x and/or terminal software is the best way to have linux and windows on the same desktop.
On a related note, how come there are no Linux emulators for Windows? Is it because Windows has better alternatives to any Linux program, or is there some sort of GPL patent issue?
You can run linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux.
And from what I understand, you can do this in windows too.
All your servers are belong to us. We write the code, we control all the doors, we hold all the keys. You will take what we decide to give you, and you will bloody well like it.
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Well, technically, no amount of agreement makes a difference either.
In my experience, once they've been made too look the fool by your being proven right once or twice, they'll be more receptive to listening to your expert advice.
1) Sales/marketing talk to some clients, convince them we can give them what they want
2) Developer talks to clients, determines what they need
3) Developer talks to Sales/marketing, tells them what the client needs
4) Sales/marketing talks to clients, sells them on what they need
5) Developer builds what client needs
6) Everybody Profits!
If you are caught in the parent posts situation, insert:
3.5) Developers firmly tell sales/marketing no and why not, cc owner
Find a market, advertise on mass media or in media that your customers read and then sell to them. Don't bother everyone else with your crap.
Unless you're already loaded, it's a bit late for that. Large multi-natitionals with existing business relationships already own all the mass media, so if you want to push a small local business, direct marketing is the only way you're going to get anywhere, especially if you don't have a business that relies on a storefront.
And it may suprise you, but there are actually many, many people who would rather have a person talk to them about their product than be exposed to more brainwashing... that's why telemarketing is so successful.
You know why telemarketers have a bad name? Because most of them aren't very good at it. A telemarketers job isn't to sell people, it's to find people who will buy. If you're not a person who will buy, they should be off the phone in the time it takes to find that out, which should be under 20 seconds most of the time.
Oh, and if you think of telemarketing as a hassle, then you're NOT their customer, and it'll take a long time before any loss that comes from pissing you off comes home.
When having more than your fair share is imposing real poverty upon other people, that's causing harm.
One little example:
Rich scumbags at Nike designing shoes intended to wear out quickly by intentionally understitching essential seams, colluding with rich mass media owners to brainwash everyone into thinking they NEED these shoes to be cool (respected) while exploiting children to make the shoes, wasting massive material resources replacing shoes that didn't need to have worn out, so they can continue to have way more than their share of the wealth.
Don't see any harm there? This the kind of freedom you want?
You really don't seem to have a clue.
Capitalism/communism are economic systems. Dictatorships are political systems. You can have capitalist dictatorships, and you can have communist democracy.
Capitalists always defend their system of preference by associating it with freedom of opportunity, but it only works that way when you get started. Once the system is mature, the rich pretty much keep everyone else under control.
If you really wanted a free society, you'd want a democratic political system combined with a communistic economic system. You'd need a society that didn't glorify greed and materialism. If everyone recognised that having a comfortable level of prosperity was all they needed, and motivated people with respect and reputation rather than money, things would be fine.
Capitalism will NEVER lead to the end of poverty, hunger and scarcity. Why? Because those are the tools capitalists use to keep power, and they would lose their power if they were gone.
The fact that there are worse countries does not make your country better... there are much better countries than the Imperial American States.
You must have your head in the fucking clouds or something... Americas economy is in the toilet in large part because investors have woken up to the fact that fraud is RAMPANT in American companies and are pulling their money out.
That, and the fact that your country engages in criminal aggressive war. You should have stuck with the pervert... at least he wasn't a blood-thirsty fucking retard.
Patent it!!!
It should be obvious to anyone with even the slightest bit of intelligence that the population DO NOT feel that copyright is a moral or ethical law. If they did, they would not all be ignoring copyright law, now would they?
Theft is easy. It is extremely easy to take stuff from your fellow man. Yet few people do it. Why? Because they think it is wrong.
Copyright infringement is easy. The majority of people do it. Not just the youth, or the poor, or any particular group... everybody.
People talk about it in a fashion that they would never talk about shoplifting or taking tools from their neighbours garage. Why?
Because none of the people they are speaking about it to think badly of them for doing it. Because they don't think copyright laws should be on the books, they have no desire to have their taxes spent on enforcing them, and they finally have the means to make their will known in a fashion that business and government cannot ignore.
You may think I am wrong, or full of shit, or talking out of my ass. But the proof is clear: Everyone is doing it, and there is no desperation driving them to do it, therefore they do not believe in the law.
Here now...
I'll agree that Microsoft are bad and all, but lets not lump them in the makers of LOTR... JRR, the father of modern fantasy, before he died, clearly expressed his wish that his books never be sold out and adapted to film. If you really must see em, for fucks sake pirate them... don't give his traitorous bitch of a daughter your cash.
It's going to cost a lot more $$$ to get a cluster of Apples going vs. a cluster of Intel/AMDs
Might not be the case if you're a school...
"Unix won the server market because it was powerful, not because it was easy to use. Microsoft won the desktop market because it was easy to use, not because it was powerful. We're now at a convergence where we need tools that are powerful and easy to use," he said.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they both win in their markets because they were there? Unix achieved market penetration because it was given away free by AT&T, and DOS achieved market penetration because IBM gave it market penetration.
Not that I wouldn't like all my development tools to be powerful and easy to use, but neither of the aforementioned operating systems got there because they posessed these qualities. And nothing has really changed; if linux had cost just $5 a few years ago, I don't think we'd be talking about it today...
Isn't it more a case of the world creating superior goods for the good of the community, and scummy american companies trying to exploit and destroy?
Has existed in Canada for a long time at the Superstore. You pay $15/20/25 a month and are allowed 1/2/3 out at any one time.
Oh, and how about the library?
Lets open a library, but make people pay by the month. Great idea... get a patent.
Fucking idiots.
1) Insert ClusterKnoppix into every computer in the office
2) Connect laptop to office network
3) Rip rental DVD
4) Begin distributed divx compression
5) Smoke a cigarette
6) Burn DivX CD
7) Go home
Shit. They would have had me at Celine Dion...
I mean, should we switch?
How much suffering would you have to endure before you'd use Caldera on all your servers to make it stop?
We should definately sue the P2P companies for new hard drives. Then we can sue the HD companies for getting us into trouble with RIAA. Then lets sue RIAA for something... hrmm... not sure what yet, but we'll think of something...
The way you talk about slapping a widget onto software and selling it back... There is NO reason for anyone to buy software if the alterations from the free version are so meaningless and trivial.
BSD licensed programs aren't likely to be used commercially in this fashion. But they are likely to be used as freely available components that push up the baseline of what is available for a startup with nothing.
An example might be a simple embeddable database. If there is one out there under the BSD license, EVERYONE can reuse it in new commercial applications which go far, far beyond the database itself. Not selling a slightly faster database, but selling something completely unrelated, that happens to require a database.
If the aforementioned government-funded database were GPLed, and the only choices were commercial or GPL, you need to license one, and each time you hit a component you need to license, you get closer to "Not Commercially Viable Idea, Go Work For Rich Monopolist Instead"
Making BSD stuff therefore kills monopolies in a fashion that GPL stuff can't. Sure, maybe Microsoft uses aforementioned BSD database stuff to make SQL Server 2005 better and faster for cheaper, but that's not the point. The point is that a million Joe Developers doesn't need to have tons of money to give to Microsoft or Oracle in order to develop their new business ideas now. GPL code has its place, but will never be able to change the world in THIS way.
I don't know if this actually works, I just thought it was funny...
Personally, I think multiple computers, a multi-monitor workstation, remote-x and/or terminal software is the best way to have linux and windows on the same desktop.
On a related note, how come there are no Linux emulators for Windows? Is it because Windows has better alternatives to any Linux program, or is there some sort of GPL patent issue?
You can run linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux in vmware in windows in vmware in linux.
And from what I understand, you can do this in windows too.
I'll try and get it right in the future.
No, you listen up.
All your servers are belong to us. We write the code, we control all the doors, we hold all the keys. You will take what we decide to give you, and you will bloody well like it.
The voice of reason
Damn could you give someone a shock if you were to hack their car.
*POKE*
Ahem.
DUDE DON'T CALL ME DUDE!