Please don't paint all of Canada based on what happens in Quebec. It pains me to say it, but they are bass-ackards here. French language laws, bonuses for having children, etc.
As a non-american, I must question why you would need this? Don't you already have an entire system setup to limit who can legally work? I seem to recall that there were SSNs in the american world. If an employee does not have a social security number, are they entitled to work? How does creating a second database of people -- those who most likely do not have an SSN -- fix the issue of employers employing those who are not supposed to be employed? Is this a late April Fools Joke?
But the entire supposition that we would voluntarily scorch the sky is absurd. The earth would get very cold, most of the people would freeze to death. All agriculture would end, most of the remaining people in the world would starve.
Machines should not have the same reaction to nuclear power that many humans do -- they should trust the machines and controls especially with machine reaction times. Perhaps portable machines were using solar power but a solar cell of a small size does not provide much power, it is easily replacable by batteries.
My theory is that the matrix is a life support system for the humans. The war between the machines and the humans ended long ago and the earth was scorched. It was realized that without the sun, humans would have source of food, the world would become cold so the matrix was designed to keep humans alive until the world was habitable.
A system as complex as the Matrix would require maintenance and programmers so a system is set up to select new leaders and programmers. Did anyone else find it odd that the only people who leave the matrix are computer geeks? Are they so special?
I think the reason that Neo had to choose between the human race and Trinity is to show his dedication to the human race. If he could not put aside his feelings for Trinity, how could he be trusted to run the Matrix for the good of humanity.
I also think that some of the real programmers/maintainers have been seen in the matrix (the Architect, the Oracle, the councillor who took Neo to the basement).
My last guess is that the real world is already habitable. If this is the 6th matrix then probably 600 years have gone by...
You may be correct in the marketing world, since this is definitely marketing speak.
In the real world, to have an ActiveX control that was hosted by IE, you would have to implement the 16 or so interfaces. With only IUnknown and DllRegisterServer and DllUnregisterServer, you can't even create the object externally since you need DllGetClassObject to get the class factory.
You're rant is a load of crap. I wrote VBX, OCX, OLE Controls, and ActiveX controls. With the exception of VBX, all of the other 3 are the same. OLE Controls and ActiveX controls are the same.
THE WORLD DOES NOT UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS. MOST PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE MAGIC. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT SET THE LAWS AND GET TO SIT AS JURIES.
I would agree that sending valid SMTP traffic should not get you in trouble. Unfortunately this is not the case here. ORBZ was deliberately sending SMTP traffic that was not kosher to see what would happen. A person in the real world may call this 'hacking'. The fact that you and I would call it testing for vulnerabilities means nothing. Thats just our perspective.
From a systems admin perspective I may agree with you. If you take the perspective of the masses, he was being a good samaritan who was also a pain in the ass and caused damages for a group of people.
I realize that at times its hard to remember how the rest of the world views computers and networks but sometimes it is necessary (especially since they would be the jury of peers in any trial).
Wow, have you ever considered a career in trolling?
Here is my reasoning: What ORBZ is doing is equivalent to walking around a parking lot at a shopping mail and checking if people remembered to lock their cars, and then posting friendly reminders if they did not. If you were observed by the police person doing this, I would think that there would be a high probability of you having an interview with them in the back of their squad car. If someone noticed you doing this to their car and reported you to the police (along with the license plate of your car/or enough info to find your house) do you think that they may come calling?
Now pull your head out of your 'network administrators' world and try to view this as what it was -- a well intention stranger causing damage to a system that he really had no rights to touch.
Common sense is a lot less common than you think it is.
>> Had the detective taken the time to read the website, the situation would have been quite clear to him.
Do you really believe that a detective would understand what open relay detection was? Perhaps I have a low estimation of the technical competence of the police.
Personally I have no problems with the manner the authorities or the city used to handle the case. You did cause a denial of service to the city (in the strictest sense of the definition). You did do it purposely. It probably is a good idea that you shut down, cause if I were on the jury, I would probably convict you.
I have seen things run in excel that are obviously applications in their own right.
I guess the question is more of how much functionality you are adding. I think most of us would agree that most web pages are not applications, but some are. The fact is that a web browser can host an application; so can excel.
Are plug-ins, applets, activex controls software? I think so. Are the formulas used in excel software? No, I would call them the reason for being for a spreadsheet. Once you add VBA/macro languages we are moving into software. Since you've given no indication of what your spreadsheets do, I can make no judgements in your specific case.
I personally use citizens bank of canada and ING Direct . Citizens are a virtual bank that is part of the VanCity bank. ING Direct is also a virtual bank that specializes in savings (5% on their savings account).
It took a while to get used to not having a branch at all (since citizens is completely virtual) but for US$ you can use the ING bank machines (at Canadian Tire stores in GTA anyway). Other than the need for US$ occasionally I have no real need for the branch.
And to the point of the question, I have used both of their internet services from each of Linux (Netscape) and Windows (IE of course in each of 95,98,NT & 2K) as well as once in the aol custom browser and all worked correctly.
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Please don't paint all of Canada based on what happens in Quebec. It pains me to say it, but they are bass-ackards here. French language laws, bonuses for having children, etc.
Your government does not have a list of all of the SSNs given out over the years? No wonder it can't figure out who should be allowed to work.
As a non-american, I must question why you would need this? Don't you already have an entire system setup to limit who can legally work? I seem to recall that there were SSNs in the american world. If an employee does not have a social security number, are they entitled to work? How does creating a second database of people -- those who most likely do not have an SSN -- fix the issue of employers employing those who are not supposed to be employed? Is this a late April Fools Joke?
Yeah, I have to get around to seeing the Animatrix soon. It just seemed to be a 'money grabber' instead of a 'value add'.
Hmm, I have yet to see the Animatrix...
But the entire supposition that we would voluntarily scorch the sky is absurd. The earth would get very cold, most of the people would freeze to death. All agriculture would end, most of the remaining people in the world would starve.
Machines should not have the same reaction to nuclear power that many humans do -- they should trust the machines and controls especially with machine reaction times. Perhaps portable machines were using solar power but a solar cell of a small size does not provide much power, it is easily replacable by batteries.
My theory is that the matrix is a life support system for the humans. The war between the machines and the humans ended long ago and the earth was scorched. It was realized that without the sun, humans would have source of food, the world would become cold so the matrix was designed to keep humans alive until the world was habitable.
A system as complex as the Matrix would require maintenance and programmers so a system is set up to select new leaders and programmers. Did anyone else find it odd that the only people who leave the matrix are computer geeks? Are they so special?
I think the reason that Neo had to choose between the human race and Trinity is to show his dedication to the human race. If he could not put aside his feelings for Trinity, how could he be trusted to run the Matrix for the good of humanity.
I also think that some of the real programmers/maintainers have been seen in the matrix (the Architect, the Oracle, the councillor who took Neo to the basement).
My last guess is that the real world is already habitable. If this is the 6th matrix then probably 600 years have gone by...
You may be correct in the marketing world, since this is definitely marketing speak.
In the real world, to have an ActiveX control that was hosted by IE, you would have to implement the 16 or so interfaces. With only IUnknown and DllRegisterServer and DllUnregisterServer, you can't even create the object externally since you need DllGetClassObject to get the class factory.
What?
You're rant is a load of crap. I wrote VBX, OCX, OLE Controls, and ActiveX controls. With the exception of VBX, all of the other 3 are the same. OLE Controls and ActiveX controls are the same.
Perhaps you need the clue stick. Here it is:
THE WORLD DOES NOT UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS. MOST PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE MAGIC. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT SET THE LAWS AND GET TO SIT AS JURIES.
I would agree that sending valid SMTP traffic should not get you in trouble. Unfortunately this is not the case here. ORBZ was deliberately sending SMTP traffic that was not kosher to see what would happen. A person in the real world may call this 'hacking'. The fact that you and I would call it testing for vulnerabilities means nothing. Thats just our perspective.
From a systems admin perspective I may agree with you. If you take the perspective of the masses, he was being a good samaritan who was also a pain in the ass and caused damages for a group of people.
I realize that at times its hard to remember how the rest of the world views computers and networks but sometimes it is necessary (especially since they would be the jury of peers in any trial).
Wow, have you ever considered a career in trolling?
Here is my reasoning: What ORBZ is doing is equivalent to walking around a parking lot at a shopping mail and checking if people remembered to lock their cars, and then posting friendly reminders if they did not. If you were observed by the police person doing this, I would think that there would be a high probability of you having an interview with them in the back of their squad car. If someone noticed you doing this to their car and reported you to the police (along with the license plate of your car/or enough info to find your house) do you think that they may come calling?
Now pull your head out of your 'network administrators' world and try to view this as what it was -- a well intention stranger causing damage to a system that he really had no rights to touch.
Common sense is a lot less common than you think it is.
Happy, happy, joy, joy...
>> Had the detective taken the time to read the website, the situation would have been quite clear to him.
Do you really believe that a detective would understand what open relay detection was? Perhaps I have a low estimation of the technical competence of the police.
Personally I have no problems with the manner the authorities or the city used to handle the case. You did cause a denial of service to the city (in the strictest sense of the definition). You did do it purposely. It probably is a good idea that you shut down, cause if I were on the jury, I would probably convict you.
I have seen things run in excel that are obviously applications in their own right.
I guess the question is more of how much functionality you are adding. I think most of us would agree that most web pages are not applications, but some are. The fact is that a web browser can host an application; so can excel.
Are plug-ins, applets, activex controls software? I think so. Are the formulas used in excel software? No, I would call them the reason for being for a spreadsheet. Once you add VBA/macro languages we are moving into software. Since you've given no indication of what your spreadsheets do, I can make no judgements in your specific case.
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My point was that if I could choose the format of the pages, an algorithm for looking up the names would be very simple.
Of course optimizing for inserts, updates and deletes complicates things. (Doesn't everything?)
OK, give me a phone book of Toronto (or New York), and Mr Smith's full name, and street address.
I get the feeling I could find it in under a minute.
And I'm just a human.
$12,000 -- are you nuts? Comfortably?? Is your idea of comfort living in a basement apartment, walking everywhere and eating cat food.
A much more realistic number would be $35,000 -- assuming a modest appartment, using the transit system and not too indulgent tastes.
To own a house in Toronto, you will need to assume around a $200,000 mortgage.
I personally use citizens bank of canada and ING Direct . Citizens are a virtual bank that is part of the VanCity bank. ING Direct is also a virtual bank that specializes in savings (5% on their savings account).
It took a while to get used to not having a branch at all (since citizens is completely virtual) but for US$ you can use the ING bank machines (at Canadian Tire stores in GTA anyway). Other than the need for US$ occasionally I have no real need for the branch.
And to the point of the question, I have used both of their internet services from each of Linux (Netscape) and Windows (IE of course in each of 95,98,NT & 2K) as well as once in the aol custom browser and all worked correctly.