Based on the Roman description of them, obviously NOT! But it certainly makes it easier to persecute someone who you label heretic, than someone who simply declines to participate in your form of worship. And with the known history of the inquisition and other persecutions from the Roman church, with documentation from surviviors both Reformers and late anabaptists(mennonites) we can document the falsehoods told by ROME about these groups.
Based on the small amount of extant artifacts, not so obvious either way.
Yes, there is a difference between worship and veneration, just like there is a difference between being decapitated by an axe vs a Guillotine. I believe it has to do with the shape of the basket used to catch the head.
While I agree that the Trail of blood is as much a work of fiction as it is history, The writings of the mennonites and others from the 1500s and earlier, tracing their histories back to the 700s and beyond are a much better read. Further, it is very difficult to track the history of a disorganized(compared to ROME) scattering of individuals(and small churches) who were butchered, maligned, tortured and lied about by ROME.
It is truly amazing that so many people don't know anything about the Coptic(north african) and Anabaptist(pre-400 AD protestants) branches of the church.
Young earth creationists accept an age of the earth between 7 and 15K years. There is a very small subgroup that holds to a 4004BC creation due to some poor math and reading ability.
The church was one, Pre ROME. I don't argue that. The point is that there wasn't some secret/public meeting where there was a vote to vote parts of the bible in or out.
Because in 99.99..% of cases you can test drive a Car and be reasonably certain it will meet your specifications. in those cases you can't, you can usually find a review or rental to work out the fine details.
The FX-5200( which I also use in my primary machine) does an admirable job on almost everything. Including Doom 3 at a reasonable resolution and framerate. I haven't had a chance to try it against HL2 or Q4, so I can't comment there
Most people who subscribe to the 4th century council theory overlook the Coptic branch of the Chuch which while orthodox has never been associated with the "Orthodox" branches of the church, and shares the same set of Scriptures as the rest of "Christendom".
Payment before service is NOT the same as payment before ORDERING. I walk into McRonalds, order a big mac, and pay. Thats not the same as walking in, paying $10 and deciding I don't want anything on the menu and walking out again.
Asking for my payment information in order to get a free trial makes it non-free. and that is the point. Persisting my payment information when I'm not a customer is despicable and I choose not to put up with it.
We aren't talking about the free 30 days that you get with the retail box, we're talking about the "free" keys that came bundled with all 4 of the big PC game(cd included) magazines in july/august.
Yes, paying with a credit card is EASIER. WHEN I'M READY TO PAY. I'm not going to hand my credit card to a cashier when I walk into Walmart. Or to the hormel lady handing out the free weenies. I'll do it when I get ready to leave, with the can of weenies. When I walk through the food court at the mall and am accosted by the Cookie lady with the samples, and the chinese restaurant guy with the terriaki beef samples, They don't ask for my credit card until AFTER I order a meal.
There are hundreds or thousands of CS/Quake/UT2k servers MANY of them don't require punkbuster, many do. I don't play any of those games online. and I don't feel any need to cheat either.
Yeah, having the OPTION to not have punkbuster run is the difference. And for many of us, it is a big deal. I do have something to hide.
It's called the 4th ammendment. And I know that that only works against the government, but its still an integral principle of our society. I don't have to be doing something illegal, immoral or fattening to want to NOT have my computer, car or home searched.
The police have the right to search my home with a properly obtained warrant, But when they exercise that right they have to let me know, even if its a note on my door when they leave.
Well, Since all of this is speculation anyway since blizzard HASN'T said why they want my credit card information, except for a one liner about making billing "easier" if I continue after the "free" trial. Then I call BULL on the bandwidth and age check claims.
With a major change to the license agreement like this, There should be more warning than usual. Sony at least got that part right, and had a special patch warning.
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I own used copies of halflife and starcraft and have had no problems with either. What sort of problem should I expect to run into?
Based on the Roman description of them, obviously NOT! But it certainly makes it easier to persecute someone who you label heretic, than someone who simply declines to participate in your form of worship. And with the known history of the inquisition and other persecutions from the Roman church, with documentation from surviviors both Reformers and late anabaptists(mennonites) we can document the falsehoods told by ROME about these groups.
Based on the small amount of extant artifacts, not so obvious either way.
Yes, there is a difference between worship and veneration, just like there is a difference between being decapitated by an axe vs a Guillotine. I believe it has to do with the shape of the basket used to catch the head.
While I agree that the Trail of blood is as much a work of fiction as it is history, The writings of the mennonites and others from the 1500s and earlier, tracing their histories back to the 700s and beyond are a much better read. Further, it is very difficult to track the history of a disorganized(compared to ROME) scattering of individuals(and small churches) who were butchered, maligned, tortured and lied about by ROME.
It is truly amazing that so many people don't know anything about the Coptic(north african) and Anabaptist(pre-400 AD protestants) branches of the church.
Young earth creationists accept an age of the earth between 7 and 15K years. There is a very small subgroup that holds to a 4004BC creation due to some poor math and reading ability.
The church was one, Pre ROME. I don't argue that. The point is that there wasn't some secret/public meeting where there was a vote to vote parts of the bible in or out.
The Coptics are not now, and have never been subject to either Constantinople, Byzantium or Rome.
Because in 99.99..% of cases you can test drive a Car and be reasonably certain it will meet your specifications. in those cases you can't, you can usually find a review or rental to work out the fine details.
The FX-5200( which I also use in my primary machine) does an admirable job on almost everything. Including Doom 3 at a reasonable resolution and framerate. I haven't had a chance to try it against HL2 or Q4, so I can't comment there
The anabaptists of the 500s and 600s would disagree with you.
Most people who subscribe to the 4th century council theory overlook the Coptic branch of the Chuch which while orthodox has never been associated with the "Orthodox" branches of the church, and shares the same set of Scriptures as the rest of "Christendom".
Yeah, the logs would end up taking nearly as much space as the Posts.
Payment before service is NOT the same as payment before ORDERING. I walk into McRonalds, order a big mac, and pay. Thats not the same as walking in, paying $10 and deciding I don't want anything on the menu and walking out again.
Asking for my payment information in order to get a free trial makes it non-free. and that is the point. Persisting my payment information when I'm not a customer is despicable and I choose not to put up with it.
We aren't talking about the free 30 days that you get with the retail box, we're talking about the "free" keys that came bundled with all 4 of the big PC game(cd included) magazines in july/august.
Yes, paying with a credit card is EASIER. WHEN I'M READY TO PAY. I'm not going to hand my credit card to a cashier when I walk into Walmart. Or to the hormel lady handing out the free weenies. I'll do it when I get ready to leave, with the can of weenies. When I walk through the food court at the mall and am accosted by the Cookie lady with the samples, and the chinese restaurant guy with the terriaki beef samples, They don't ask for my credit card until AFTER I order a meal.
There are hundreds or thousands of CS/Quake/UT2k servers MANY of them don't require punkbuster, many do. I don't play any of those games online. and I don't feel any need to cheat either.
Yeah, having the OPTION to not have punkbuster run is the difference. And for many of us, it is a big deal. I do have something to hide.
It's called the 4th ammendment. And I know that that only works against the government, but its still an integral principle of our society. I don't have to be doing something illegal, immoral or fattening to want to NOT have my computer, car or home searched.
The police have the right to search my home with a properly obtained warrant, But when they exercise that right they have to let me know, even if its a note on my door when they leave.
Well, Since all of this is speculation anyway since blizzard HASN'T said why they want my credit card information, except for a one liner about making billing "easier" if I continue after the "free" trial. Then I call BULL on the bandwidth and age check claims.
A "used" account key is "USED UP". end of story. If I can collect 100 free keys I should be able to "try" the game 100 times.
I'm not giving my credit card info if it is a free trial. Period
I'm not buying a game card either. The local gym doesn't collect my payment info until AFTER the free trial visit.
So I have to spend money to get something free... Woohoo you must work for one of those get free Ipod scam companies.
With a major change to the license agreement like this, There should be more warning than usual. Sony at least got that part right, and had a special patch warning.