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Rubik's Cube World Championships

cadaeibfed writes "Coinciding with the 25th anniversary of the iconic puzzle's introduction to the world was the second Rubik's world championship, held in Orlando, FL this weekend. Competing under official World Cube Association rules, competitors from around the world vied for recognition in this nerd olympiad. Some new world records set include the 4x4 solve, solving using only feet, and blindfolded solving. The winner, Jean Pons of France, finished with an average solution time of 15.10 seconds on a standard 3x3 cube. Here are the full results."

202 comments

  1. Wow. by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 5, Insightful

    15 seconds is rather insane. Yes, I know there are tricks and that there is a technique that will produce a solution. But they require quite a number of steps, all of which take time. Not to mention the need to recognize, store and process the locations of 27 color/point pairs for the win. Just... wow.

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    1. Re:Wow. by slack0ne · · Score: 5, Funny

      I found it easier to peel the stickers off. It took me weeks to actually solve one back in the day...

    2. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I looked about resolution techniques a while ago. Besides the different algorithms, some of them even grease the cube so it turns faster!

    3. Re:Wow. by metricmusic · · Score: 5, Funny

      pfftt. I remove the cover and unscrew the thing. Haven't made it under 15 seconds yet putting it back together *looks at mess in the corner*

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    4. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      He's French; he probably solved the puzzle that fast because he still had to extinguish his car...

    5. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Absolutely. Back in the day my average cube time was about 60 seconds, with a personal best of about 40 seconds. I used the basic cube algorithms - nothing flash.

      I greased the innards of my main cube so it would turn faster.

      I went in a cube competition once. I lost quite badly because - although I was the fastest cuber in the competition, it was a promotion for some soft-drink company, and they were using cubes with their logo printed on each cubie. So the orientation of the centre cubie mattered. I had never solved a cube where I had to worry about rotating centre cubies, and so despite solving the thing first, I had to go back and try to rotate all the centres. In the end I either finished or gave up after about 3 minutes.

    6. Re:Wow. by fm2503 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Found some videos at http://www.solvethecube.co.uk/
      Follow the "videos" link at the top, towards the bottom
      of this page is a 13.86 second solve.

    7. Re:Wow. by ockegheim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Back in the day, when I memorised a particular method, it only fixed one or two of the cubes at once. Can these guys (and girls?) just look at the cube and work out what's necessary to solve it in one big conceptual tour de force? Or do they still have (albeit more sophisticated) intermediate steps?

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    8. Re:Wow. by Mugros · · Score: 1

      That is also what i did. I'll call it the "Kirk solution".
      And i think i have never solved the cube on my own. It was just too boring.

    9. Re:Wow. by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

      I found it quite boring as well.
      Anyway I gave up after completing five sides, couldn't be bothered to finish the damn thing.

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    10. Re:Wow. by Headcase88 · · Score: 1

      "Hack The Rubix!"

      ... and install Linux on it.

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    11. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know someone who can solve it faster. And he can do some nifty stuff with juggling at the same time. (Of course, not in 12 seconds, but bleh.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotaro_%22Macky%22_M akisumi

    12. Re:Wow. by Funakoshi · · Score: 4, Funny

      average solution time of 15.10 seconds on a standard 3x3 cube

      If I could move my hands that fast I'd never leave the house...

    13. Re:Wow. by courtarro · · Score: 1

      Yes, but can they do it blindfolded... dun dun dun!

    14. Re:Wow. by Alistar · · Score: 1

      If you completed 5 sides (5 sides all the same colour) wouldn't that by default mean that you got the 6th side as well.
      The only options are you were using some screwed up rubix cube with greater than 6 colours

      OR

      I failed to see the humour in your post.

    15. Re:Wow. by cbreaker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You didn't fail to see the humor if you had the mind to write option 2.

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    16. Re:Wow. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      What's really fun is taking someone's cube apart and putting it back in a situation that is unsolvable. Like just rotating one corner. Then, mix it back up again, so they don't see that's it's messed right away. If they don't catch on, they could be trying to solve it forever.

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    17. Re:Wow. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Basically they figure out the whole thing and do it all at once. You get to look at it for quite a long time before you actually start moving the pieces around. They only time you from when you actually start moving pieces. I think the competition would be much more of a real competition if they timed from when you first saw it. It mostly comes down to who can manipulate it the fastest, and not who can actually solve it the fastest.

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    18. Re:Wow. by BlogPope · · Score: 1
      pfftt. I remove the cover and unscrew the thing.

      Am I the only one to apply the brute force tactic? With enough force you can expand the gaps of most cubes to the point that a corner peice can be removed, from then on they dismantle easily.

      I did eventually get a guide and solve it with instructions.

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    19. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not saying that 15 secs isn't a fast time (it's 4 times faster than my average), but solving the cube doesn't take that long once you know how. It basically comes down to remembering the solution and memorising the moves. The most basic solution only requires, 4 maybe 5 sequences? Once you've done this, it's all a matter of dexterity and the freshness of your cube. Too fresh and they are a bit stiff so you can't turn the sides fast enough. Too old and the pieces tend to not align exactly right and often get caught on each other.

    20. Re:Wow. by voxlator · · Score: 1

      You get to look at it for quite a long time before you actually start moving the pieces around.

      From the official rules, you get 15 seconds to pre-inspect the scrammbled cube (for regular 3x3 cube, two handed solves). Now excactly 'quite a long time' really...

    21. Re:Wow. by Council · · Score: 1

      Everyone's dad has made the 'peel the stickers off and put them back' joke on seeing a Rubik's cube, usually more than once. Among other things, it's not usually possible. On most cubes, the stickers tear or come up in layers or lose their adhesion.

      If you want to get a cube in order, the sub-cubes actually pop out quite easily if you twist it right, and you can without difficulty fit it back together in the proper order.

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    22. Re:Wow. by cadaeibfed · · Score: 1

      Additionally, most competitors don't use the full 15 seconds. Most just figure out their first two or three moves and are ready to go. I judged at this competition, and rarely had someone use the full inspection time.

    23. Re:Wow. by zaffir · · Score: 1

      You could say it's both. There are a few steps, and by just looking at the cube you can see what needs to be done for the step you are on (and usually the step after it). Being able to see what needs to be done with those steps isn't too hard with practice, or at least isn't for me- and I'm far from a mathematical genius. The tough part is the finger dexterity to move the cube fast enough.

      Currently the fastest method I'm aware of is Jessica Fridrich's.

      The first few steps in any method get you to a point where you have 2/3rds of the cube "solved." I can usually see the pieces for each of these steps and do it fairly quickly. With Jessica's method the last 1/3rd of the cube can be solved by using 1 of 40 algorithms, followed by 1 of 13 algorithms. Once you've memorized these algorithms and the orientations in which they must be used, it becomes almost second nature to solve the last step.

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    24. Re:Wow. by Kent+Simon · · Score: 1

      not at all, that method is actually used when lubing your cube :). turn the top face 45 degrees and then turn the right face until the thing explodes.. when you actually look at the individual cubies it becomes apparent that it is specifically designed to be able to be broken apart without damaging the cube.

      Kent

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    25. Re:Wow. by renehollan · · Score: 1
      Best I ever consistently did was a 3x3x3 in 45 seconds, and that was about 20 years ago.

      15 second times boggle my mind -- I don't think I could even move the pieces that fast.

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    26. Re:Wow. by angle_slam · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes they can. Check out the third video on the video link from this page.

    27. Re:Wow. by Archades54 · · Score: 1

      i did it in 5 seconds by microwaving it. melted all the colours together evenly

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    28. Re:Wow. by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      One word: Spraypaint.

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    29. Re:Wow. by Forum+Joe · · Score: 1

      If I could move my hands that fast I'd never leave the house...

      Cause and effect!
      I think their hands are that fast BECAUSE they never leave the house!

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  2. Re:What's that for a standard ? by Jesrad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Surely you mean 5x5 squares ? 'Cause I only know of 3x3x3 or 4x4x4 Rubik cubes :P

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  3. Re:What's that for a standard ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most cubes have three sides, e.g. 3x3x3. This 5x5 cube of yours sounds interesting.

  4. Re:What's that for a standard ? by metricmusic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The traditional Rubik's cube has three dice-shaped blocks on each side and was first licensed and sold in Japan in 1980.

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  5. Cube Theory = Group Theory by ankarbass · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While just solving the cube quickly may be interesting. I think it's far more interesting that the cube movements can be thought of elements of a subgroup of a very large permutation group, S48 to be precise. If you have some math background and like abstract things you might want to take a look at Adventures in Group Theory : Rubik's Cube, Merlin's Machine, and Other Mathematical Toys which, despite the title is a fairly serious little math book.

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    1. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      Damn.
      SO3 groups for quantum mechanics were nasty enough, i dont really want to touch a S48, even if its disguised as a toy :D

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    2. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by siwelwerd · · Score: 1

      Seems that the group would be

    3. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by siwelwerd · · Score: 1

      Damn formatting.  I meant to say the group has the presentation <x,y,z | x^4=1,y^4=1,z^4=1>

    4. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by Botia · · Score: 1

      I kind of wonder about the statistics given for the cube (43,252,003,274,489,856,000 possibilities) in the article. By my calculates there should be less than 2,730,555,762,278,400 possibilities. This is taking the pieces and accounting for positioning and rotation. In the article they probably included imposibilities such as having a corner piece with all three sides being the same color.

    5. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by DustMagnet · · Score: 1

      kind of wonder about the statistics given for the cube (43,252,003,274,489,856,000 possibilities) in the article. By my calculates there should be less than 2,730,555,762,278,400 possibilities.

      I did a quick computation and got the same number as the article. 8 corner pieces in any location is 8!, but since you can't swap two corners, but only rotate three (or swap two pairs), it's 8!/2. 12 side pieces in any location in 12!. 12 side pieces in any orientation is 2^12, but since you can't flip one side without flipping another, it's 2^11. 8 corner peices in any orientation is 3^8, but since you can't rotate one corner without rotating another, the last corner is know and so it is 3^7.

      8!/2*12!*2^11*3^7 = 43252003274489856000

      Maybe I made the same mistake as the article, but it's not the mistake you talk about. BTW, best cube time 1 min 26 secs.

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    6. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by marhar · · Score: 1
      While just solving the cube quickly may be interesting. I think it's far more interesting that the cube movements...


      Yeah, that's what all the slow cubers say...
    7. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by Botia · · Score: 1

      LOL, I must not be in it today. I only accounted for 8 side pieces. Thanks for the math DustMagnet.

    8. Re:Cube Theory = Group Theory by ankarbass · · Score: 1

      Well, you do deserve a couple of funny mods, if I had one I'd give it to ya. Well, I suppose not since I already posted.

      Never the less. I was really just being polite. I don't think solving the cube quickly is interesting at all. I only think the cube is interesting in any sense because it lends insight into group theory. Developing theorems and proving them takes work and has depth. Twiddling the puzzle quickly is a bit like masturbation, it has its own reward but there's nothing particularly special about each event and it doesn't take much of a skill set to achive the desired result.

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  6. Friend of mine can do this by raoul666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Young guy, mid teens. I first saw him do it at a poker tournament I was running. We were using the cube as the dealer button, so whenever it go to him, he'd start working on it. By the time the next hand had started, even if we hadn't even seen the flop, it'd be solved and back on the table. He was probably doing it in 35-45 seconds, but still, it was amazing to watch.

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    1. Re:Friend of mine can do this by gkhan1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's really not that hard to solve a cube in around a minute. You can learn the basic, layer by layer method in about a day, and after a few more, you've got it down to under two minutes. Then you just keep doing it to get it too about a minute, and all your friends will be amazed!! (it's seriously fun to do it on a subway, everybody looks in amazement :D) Too get a time consistantly under a minute, you probably need to learn more advanced methods, like for instance the petrus system or the friedrich system. Variations on the latter is what all the pros use, but it is murder to learn, you have to memorize around 100 algorithms!!! Myself, I've gotten down to about 30 secs using the standard, layer-by-layer and some of friedrich's algorithms. It really is alot of fun.

    2. Re:Friend of mine can do this by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      The fact that there are multiple different "systems" to solve it just scares me. For me, the only "system" that consistantly works is to peel the stickers off and put them back on. But even then I occasionally can't solve it.

    3. Re:Friend of mine can do this by rnelsonee · · Score: 1

      I have a problem that I'd like to see solved - the standard Rubik's cube you get at a toy store is pretty cheap - the stickers come off too easily. I started solving the cube a few months back, and I'm still nowhere near good yet, but my stickers have fallen off already. Do you get your cubes from a certain place, or do you just spend the $5 every few months?

    4. Re:Friend of mine can do this by Plaid+Phantom · · Score: 1

      You can actually buy sticker sets for Rubik's Cubes. There's also painted cubes and the like if you try google.

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  7. Re:What's that for a standard ? by porksoda · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I didn't even know there were different sizes. :-)

    some people take things TO THE EXTREME!!!@11!1eleven

  8. Second prize by jurt1235 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The second prize is an all day massage to get the RSI down a bit.

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  9. Amateurs. by Quaoar · · Score: 1, Funny

    None of them are up to the challenge of the 1x1 cube!

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    1. Re:Amateurs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or The Peoples Cube:

      http://www.thepeoplescube.com/

    2. Re:Amateurs. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      As usual, the product doesn't deliver what the advertisement tells: "Guaranteed equality of results!"

      If you look closer, you'll see that there are images on the cube sides, which don't share the square's symmetry. Now if you turn the sides, those images will turn around as well, therefore different solutions may cause different positions of those images relative to each other (for example, one person may get the images on opposite sides to be turned in the same direction, while others may have an 90 degree angle between them).

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    3. Re:Amateurs. by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

      None of them are up to the challenge of the 1x1 cube!

      Actually, they opted not to print the rather lengthy list of results, because it was a 6.4 billion way tie at 0.0 seconds.

    4. Re:Amateurs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe good one, It is all practice for the allmighty TIMECUBE, though, DUMBASS !

    5. Re:Amateurs. by stanmann · · Score: 1

      DIE!!!

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    6. Re:Amateurs. by Dragoonmac · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ. Derek Smart clocked in at 15.4 seconds.

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  10. Oh well by The+Madd+Rapper · · Score: 1

    I'm disappointed that my favorite solver, Shotari Makisumi, only placed third. Them's the breaks. I've seen him solve, and as is true for anyone in his league, it's incredible.

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    1. Re:Oh well by cadaeibfed · · Score: 1

      Though he didn't break Pons's record, as I'd hoped he would, Macky did post the best time at the competition, a very nice 12.14 seconds. It seemed like he was having an off day, getting two penalties in the semi-final. Even with that he finished first in the semis.

    2. Re:Oh well by tattoi.nobori · · Score: 4, Funny
      Sweet Saint Shiznikov...

      You have a favourite solver? The sheer, unadulterated nerdiness of that brings a tear to my eye... God bless us, everyone.

  11. Save this one for your next party by gringer · · Score: 2, Funny

    For those folks who are interested in dressing up all nerdy, you could try making your own functional Rubik's Cube Costume. It appears to only have one axis of rotation, but I'm sure someone could work a way to get the other axis rotation working as well.

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    1. Re:Save this one for your next party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No mention of nerds dressing-up is complete without a reference to the Tron guy.

    2. Re:Save this one for your next party by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      Tron guy is off topic, AC.. This would be an excellent time however to mention the Astor Place Cube Prank. A little background: In the middle of Astor Place (the no mans land between west 8th and st. mark's place in new york city) is an island of sidewalk with a humungous black cube that stands (stood) on one of its corners. You could even push it and get it to spin (with a few participants, that thing is big). It was a pretty well known landmark. It is reportedly being "fixed and renovated right now" and will be back, something to do with the luxury condo's they built on the site of a former parking lot there.

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  12. Here's something on the origins of the thing, and by putko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa040497 .htm

    The history of it is interesting. It seems multiple folks developed similar items around the same time.

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  13. So 1980 by trollable · · Score: 1

    I remember the craze. I got one cube, my brother too, my friends too, almost every pupil had one. I never could do more than two lines but some could in 1'30. There was different types, the official and some imitations of quite bad quality. There was also similar games (cylinders, ...). Fun to see the competition continues.

    1. Re:So 1980 by CortoMaltese · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I remember the craze. I got one cube, my brother too, my friends too, almost every pupil had one. I never could do more than two lines but some could in 1'30.

      My observation was that most people eventually learned how to solve it - one way or the other. In general, the boys usually used a screwdriver, while the girls just moved the stickers.

      In fact, I came across a dusted 20-year-old cube this summer, and finally learned to solve it the right way for the first time. It was actually quite satisfying not having to use a screwdriver. Just twisting the cube is faster, too.

    2. Re:So 1980 by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1, Funny
      > ...boys usually used a screwdriver, while the girls just moved the stickers...

      What a profound observation about the nature of the universe.

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    3. Re:So 1980 by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, you also had a group of pet rocks you called your friends.

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    4. Re:So 1980 by trollable · · Score: 1

      Nope. Nothing like that. BTW, I was 10-y-o.

    5. Re:So 1980 by trollable · · Score: 1

      In general, the boys usually used a screwdriver, while the girls just moved the stickers.

      I did use the screwdriver
      with the result the cube was not solveable anymore. ;)

    6. Re:So 1980 by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1
      My observation was that most people eventually learned how to solve it - one way or the other. In general, the boys usually used a screwdriver, while the girls just moved the stickers.

      I have one where the colors are printed on it. Nothing for girls, I guess.
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  14. Pfff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have just completed this cube all by myself and deem me Champion Of The Rubic Universe. Took me 7 years to do it, plus two thumb replacements, but I did it.

    My newest project is this cube, I project 10 years for this.

  15. how... by drewxhawaii · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...exactly, does one solve a rubiks cube while blindfolded?

    braille, perchance?

    enlighten me

    1. Re:how... by kylemonger · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are given the scrambled cube to study for a time and then are blindfolded. You have to perform all the moves to solve the cube while blindfolded.

    2. Re:how... by Walkiry · · Score: 1

      You look at it before for X seconds to try and memorize the position of everything, then blindfold and go!

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    3. Re:how... by Peregr1n · · Score: 1

      Blindfolded solving involves studying the cube first, memorising the layout, then being blindfolded and solving the cube. Must require a damn good memory as long as a fair whack of logic!

    4. Re:how... by iLogiK · · Score: 1

      my guess is that at first you look at the cube and memorise it. then you put the blindfold on and start solving it. so you have to keep track of all the colors in your head

    5. Re:how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Synaesthesia!

      hmm, feels like orange...

    6. Re:how... by kasparov · · Score: 1
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  16. Re:What's that for a standard ? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

    The corner cubies are at right angles to the other three dimensions.

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  17. Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Geeky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. Take cube apart.

    2. Put back together in random order so it can't be solved.

    3. Give to cube geek.

    4. Watch them sweat as their moves don't work.

    5. .. er, profit?

    Of course, these serious cubers would probably take one look at the cube and immediately tell you it had been tampered with.

    Sad news. I'm old enough to remember these when they first came out. I feel very, very old. Anyone remember Rubik's snake?

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    1. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Jon+Peterson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The snake was more fun the the cubes. And then they came out with all these silly things in different polygons, cylinders, spheres. It got old pretty fast.

      Pocketeers were a much better toy craze :-)

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    2. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by gkhan1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Even non-serious solvers who just solve using the simple method (which ANY serious slashdotter could easily learn in an hour or two) would recognize it as unsolvable after only a couple of moves.

    3. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, It's really hard to screw up a cube by just randomly putting it back together. If an even number of inside pieces and corner pieces get flipped then its completely solvable.

    4. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Butterspoon · · Score: 1

      Fun fact: probability of being able to solve a cube scrambled by disassembly/reassembly: 1/12.

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    5. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      If you put it together in random order, you'll still have a chance of 1/6 to get a solvable cube. A better way is to just take the normal (solvable) cube, take one piece (edge or corner) out, and put it back turned around. This will give you a guaranteed unsolvable cube.

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    6. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by nyphot · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you simply put together the cube randomly (without peeling off stickers) then actually most moves of most "cube geeks" will work. In the end you'll get to a state where the entire cube is solved except for one or two pieces which have the wrong parity.

      Of course because it's parity based, if you make several random switches, it's decently likely that you'll put the cube back into a solvable position.

      If you do take the stickers off, then most "cube geeks" can probably tell you that straightaway because that makes the cube make no sense at all.

    7. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Oops, self correction: The chance is actually 1/12 (as stated correctly by Butterspoon). I forgot the corner exchange.

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    8. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Antifuse · · Score: 1

      I had a friend with the snake. It was pretty neat. I had the "Missing Link" and a "Square One" which basically just got to a point that it could never be solved. I never found a good algorithm for solving the Square One.

    9. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      The snake is fun - I still have my original, and also about a dozen very recent knockoffs that I picked up while at a dollar store.

      My favorite was the pyramid. I got to where I could solve that one in about 15-20 seconds. Not nearly as tricky as the cube to do, but it was good for winning beers back in college :)

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    10. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by wizrd_nml · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      serious slashdotter

      What was that???

    11. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Pixie_From_Hell · · Score: 1
      Even non-serious solvers who just solve using the simple method (which ANY serious slashdotter could easily learn in an hour or two) would recognize it as unsolvable after only a couple of moves.
      Don't be silly. As people will have pointed out, the difference between a solvable and and unsolvable cube is a corner twist, an edge flip, a corner swap, or an edge swap. A typical solution will do one of these last; the solution I use twists the corners last. So if you give me an unsolvable cube, I'll be able to tell, but possibly only when it is almost solved. (Mind you, this would be after 45 seconds or so, which is pretty pathetic compared to 15.10 seconds....)

      Put another way, there are 8! 12! 3^8 2^12 / (2*3*2) = 43252003274489856000 or about 4.3E19. [This is: 8! ways to position the corners, 3^8 ways to twist them; 12! ways to position the edges, 2^12 ways to flip them; well, we've overcounted by a factor of 2*3*2 because of the impossible positions described above.] Are you telling me that we can pick these 4.3E19 out of the 5.2E20 possible ways to assemble the cube after only a couple of moves?

    12. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No? Check out these links.

      (Just recently posted these on my blog)

    13. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by gkhan1 · · Score: 1

      I can't speak for everyone ofcourse, but me, I can usually tell after solving just about one layer (and I use the simplest method, but with some tweaks), which usually takes less than 15-20 seconds. You start to recognize the patterns pretty soon, and when you're twisting a faulty cube, you get the idea pretty soon that something is wrong. It isn't all that hard.

      A couple of moves might be an understatement, that's true, what I really mean is a few algorithms :P Potato, Potahtoe :P

    14. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by sootman · · Score: 1

      Snakes ruled. How else would I have learned what a rhombicuboctahedron was? Which led me to other shapes, including the granddaddy of them all: the rhombitruncatedicosododecahedron.. (Warning: audio.)

      Pyramynx was also fun and much easier to solve. I could never wrap my head around the cube.

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    15. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Pixie_From_Hell · · Score: 1
      If it's a flipped edge piece, then I can usually tell pretty quickly, too. Twisted (or even swapped) corners will take me a while to notice, as I worry about them last. Swapped edges are somewhere in the middle.

      I was really taking issue with the after only a couple moves statement. For me, the top corners get ignored until I'm basically done, and I wouldn't call it only a couple moves. It doesn't take too long, but the original post made it seem like it was obvious. Sure, it becomes obvious, sometimes sooner than later, but it isn't immediate.

      I guess we're just quibbling over what a couple moves means, which is pretty stupid and pointless. Forget I mentioned it. :) (And it's potato, dammit! :)

    16. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ. I actually tried this prank back in the 80s during the initial cube fad, and invariably anyone who had memorized any of the cookbook solutions would notice something wrong after just a couple of twists.

      I found this to be disappointing as I was expecting to supply at least ten or fifteen minutes of frustration with my cube...

    17. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Talinom · · Score: 1

      Oh God I feel old. My best time was five seconds while walking out of gym class in junior high when it was new. Suprisingly I never got beat up.

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    18. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by 2short · · Score: 1

      I'll notice a corners problem pretty much immediately, but an edge flip will take me to about half way thtough, but that's because I use a "corners first" algorithm. I learned that algorithm form a friend who was in the first speed solving competitions back in the 80s. I've seen someone try to trick her with a cube reasembled to be impossible. They held out the cube saying "Hey can you solve this for me?", without even taking it from them, she said "No"

    19. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by DustMagnet · · Score: 1

      Put back together in random order so it can't be solved. Watch them sweat as their moves don't work.

      Sweat? I always laughed. You wouldn't believe how many screwed up cubes people gave me. I'd say, "You swapped some stickers didn't you?" and they'd always lie. Sometimes more than once. Then I showed them how the cube is made out of solid peices with once peice having the same color on two sides and they'd admit they swapped stickers because they just wanted to finish one side. Messed peices was rarer, since most fools didn't know how to take one apart. It usually was the result of someone dropping the cube. Still, to anyone who knows how to solve a cube, it's entirely clear when it's been messed with. We're not robot following a recipe.

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    20. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'll notice a corners problem pretty much immediately, but an edge flip will take me to about half way thtough, but that's because I use a "corners first" algorithm. I learned that algorithm form a friend who was in the first speed solving competitions back in the 80s. I've seen someone try to trick her with a cube reasembled to be impossible. They held out the cube saying "Hey can you solve this for me?", without even taking it from them, she said "No""

      Now that's a keeper!

    21. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by corblix · · Score: 1
      Anyone remember Rubik's snake?

      "Remember"?? I played around with one yesterday. They're great.

    22. Re:Fun with Rubik's Cube geeks... by leshert · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, I used to be the local cube geek (although with times around the 1:30 mark I'd be toast nowadays). One day I was at my cousin's house, and she gave me her cube to solve. I got about three moves into it when I realized something was very, very wrong.

      Turns out her parents had bought her a cheap knockoff cube, and the colors were all off--blue opposite red, etc. It took me a good five minutes to solve the damned thing.

  18. the timing system... by ragahast · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...is pretty awesome. They have each of the competitors solve their cubes, then follow the same steps to mix it up. Then each of the competitors places their cube on a central pad and their hands on two pads to either side. Each person has a their own digital timer, which will be activated when they lift their hands from the pads. A ref blows a whistle, the competitors lift their cubes and solve and then stop their timers by dropping the solved cube on the central pad. The best time I've seen is 12.3 seconds. Frickin' ridiculous. (I was working during the Caltech winter 2005 competition)

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  19. Re:What's that for a standard ? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    Well, the most common cubes seem to be 1x1x1, but they are not usually associated with the name "Rubik".

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  20. slowpokes by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    According to this, a french guy handily beat that record... coming in at 11.75 seconds

  21. Talk about nerd porn by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Check it out. It's pretty unsettling watching someone solve the cube that fast.

  22. Videos by vagabond_gr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Take a loot at the videos on the following page. 3x3x3 in 20.55, still amazing!

  23. Cube can be solved in 29 moves or less by richieb · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The cube can be solved in 29 or less moves. Here is a reference.

    I originally worked out the solution to the cube when the Scientific American article by Douglas Hosfstader appeared. I never got my speed much below one minute. I did manage to win a T-Shirt at a Cube contest though - a contents with several hundreds of participants...

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  24. True Story by krygny · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was fortunate to be one of the first people in the world to play with a Rubik's Cube. In the late '70s, I worked with a woman who's husband worked for the Ideal Toy Co. in Jamaica, NY (that's Queens). She brought a secret prototype into work and all the engineers and technicians couldn't stop fighting over this thing; trying both to solve it and to figure out the mechanism. It was supposed to be hush-hush and she could have gotten her husband in trouble, but when she realized how obsessed we all were with it, she was afraid it would disappear.

    It was only a few months later that they hit the market and I couldn't wait to get my hands on one. I eventually got to the point of being able to solve it consistently within a half hour or less. Then I lost interest in the challenge.

    I also remember a Scientific American cover story (c. 1980), where I finally learned about the mechanism, disassembly and reassembly. Of course, they also discussed algorithms, but I wasn't interested in that. I never use cheats. Takes most of the fun out.

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    1. Re:True Story by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cheats? Solving via algorithms isnt cheating, its using your brain.
      Solving WITHOUT algorithms (even unconscious) is just the 100k monkeys approach...

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    2. Re:True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My computer science textbook is called "Algorithms, the art of cheating". Takes most of the fun out of programming.

    3. Re:True Story by Council · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Solving WITHOUT algorithms (even unconscious) is just the 100k monkeys approach...

      Last time I checked, which was a couple years ago, I could solve any rubik's cube in roughly 1:30 or less.

      That said, one thing I've never really understood was people who say "oh, yeah, took me weeks and I only ever solved it once or twice."

      Trial-and-error, with a very few exceptions for very clever people, just doesn't seem realistic. When you get it to the point where you have nearly every piece done, there are generally long and extremely complicated sequences to move the last few pieces without disturbing anything. I understand a lot of people are smarter than me, but I could never get anywhere NEAR getting the final sections without looking at sets of instructions. It seems likely to me that a handful of people studied it very hard and worked out various move sequences, and those got passed around in instruction guides and booklets and were eventually built on by enthusiasts, leading to the guides that I learned.

      But: I'm a reasonably smart guy with an eye for puzzles (who has been messing with Rubik's cubes for years), and I just can't imagine toying with the cube for a couple days -- having been told nothing about it -- and stumbling upon a whole set of final sequences to get the last few parts of the cube done.

      So, question to Slashdot: Has anyone here, who considers themselves a fairly normal albeit intelligent person, solved the cube by just messing around with it for a while, having been told nothing about it? It seems like a semi-guided trial-and-error approach is like finding a needle in a haystack*, **. Every time someone says "oh yeah, I solved it a few times back when, but it took me days" I just can't quite believe it. But maybe I'm wrong.

      * Or, for the modern day, breaking an SHA-1 hash in only 2^40 operations.

      ** Tangent: I've heard it said that looking for porn on the internet is like looking for hay in a haystack.

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    4. Re:True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same boat as you. I can do it in 1-2 minutes every time. I get people all the time who tell me "Oh yeah, I used to have one of those. It took me months to get it once." I usually find that those people have never even realized that there's a difference between the red side done correctly and the red side done so that all the red pieces are in the wrong place. I generally assume that those people are lying.

    5. Re:True Story by 2short · · Score: 2, Informative

      "one thing I've never really understood was people who say 'oh, yeah, took me weeks and I only ever solved it once or twice.'"

      They are lying. They never spent a fantastic amount of time doing the cube, but it was a big deal back when, and everyone had one and probably many of their friends could solve it (having read the solution in a book). The idea of having solved it "once" seems plausible, not terribly baostful, a perfectly innocent little white lie. But serious cubers know it's BS. Claiming to have solved it on your own even once is actually a stupendous boast; discovering the solution on your own is fantastically difficult, and the probability is near zero of doing so without the cube having been a major part of your life.
          Again, they're not being particularly malicious, their memories of the cube may even be so vauge that they just assume they must have solved it "once". But they didn't solve it all on their own, or they'd know claiming to have solved it "once" was a ridiculous claim.
          For the record, I spent many months developing my algorithm until I could reliably produce a cube that had a 25% chance of being solved, vs having 2 or 4 edge peices flipped. After several more monts of frustration, I let somone show me that final move. Now I can do the cube in a little under 2 minutes.
          "semi-guided trial-and-error " won't get you there. The position I could reliably get too was very "close" to solved, but still requires discovering the specific 20 twist series that will get you from there to solved, via positions that seem much less close.

    6. Re:True Story by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 2, Informative
      I solved it in a few days --four , I think--.

      It happened after I first watched the movie Pi one night. I was walking around wondering how much brain-time I've wasted, what I could do if I tried, etc. I saw that someone in the apartment complex had a cube. I asked nicely and borrowed it.

      First, I did an algorithm for one layer, that was done and written out before I slept that night. The next couple of days I fiddled around with it constantly (carried it around everywhere) and came up with various notations, trying to get a grip on the large space.

      Then upon advice from a friend to simplify the search down and not branch so much, I narrowed my focus on a 7 turn sequence that I came to call "the basic". Using repetitions of the basic intermixed with other simple to remember alterations, I was able to whittle the space of arrangements down bit by bit until my algorithm could walk me from random to solved.

      Over the next months, I learned when reverse and mirror-image versions of my canned-moves would be faster than the canned-moves themselves, cutting my time down to a reliable minute and a half.

      Only after teaching some friends my method did one of them later look up a more elegant set of canned-moves and teach those back to me. That elegant solution is the one that I use now (unless I'm feeling nostalgic). But those notes and explorations in notation I made those first few days were about half the fun of the whole thing. Which I why I have taken up and solved numerous other permutation puzzles using the same approach.

      That is my story. I solved the Rubik's Cube in a few days by developing my own algorithm. I'm not ashamed of that humble boast; I earned it. Apply yourself, and you can too.

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    7. Re:True Story by Stephen+Chadfield · · Score: 1

      I worked it out for myself without seeing any written solutions. I didn't have a vocabulary to express what I did but I could consistantly repeat it and solve in about than four minutes.

      I am actually quite interested in getting hold of another one and seeing if I can remember what I did and solve it again. A part of me is worried that my brain is now too old and burnt-out to do it...

  25. age by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't mind knowing the ages of all these people. Rubiks are old (to me) so are these fresh blood? Are they still popular? As far as I'm concerned they'd have to be middle aged in order to be that good.

    1. Re:age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen one of the semifinalists in action, he is about 25 i think.

    2. Re:age by DavidB · · Score: 1

      This is from one of the organizers:

      1) average age of competitors: 23 years 10 months
      2) average age of 3x3 finalists: 18 years 9 months (Jon Morris being 30!)

      Jean Pons, the winner, was 20. Shotaro Makisumi, who came in 3rd place is 15. At 35, I'm one of the people who brought the average up, but I didn't make it to the finals.

    3. Re:age by cadaeibfed · · Score: 1

      What I found interesting was the demographic shift moving from the 3x3 to the 4x4 and 5x5. Going to the larger cubes the competition got older and more European.

  26. How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by Maddog+Batty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want something hard then try a 20x20x20 cube
    http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/20cube.html

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    1. Re:How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I've tried a 4x4x4 cube after I got bored with the 3x3x3. Once you figure out the patterns (or look them up online) it gets really easy, and you can do it in about 5 minutes, without even trying to go fast. The 4x4x4 is much harder, and doesn't really work the same way as a 3x3x3. I've decided that i'm not going to look up the answers with the 4x4x4, so it's taken me a long time, and I still haven't figured it out actually, and it has been a few months.

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    2. Re:How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by Prophet+of+Nixon · · Score: 1

      You know, I never realized there was a 3x3x3 (block) cube... I'd been reading up to this point assuming that '3x3x3' meant 3x3x3 (inches), and wondering why the dimensions mattered (hand size?). I've only ever played with a 4x4x4 (block) and this wierd pyramid shaped one. The 4x4x4 isn't that tough, but the pyramid is awesome.

      I couldn't ever speed-solve either, but I knew a guy in college who could do a 4x4x4 anyway you messed it up in about 30 seconds.

    3. Re:How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't ever speed-solve either, but I knew a guy in college who could do a 4x4x4 anyway you messed it up in about 30 seconds.

      As you can see from the link, the World record for the 4x4x4 is about a minute. So forgive me if I call BULLSHIT.

    4. Re:How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by Prophet+of+Nixon · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the article, though I might since I never knew that anyone took those cubes seriously enough to have a competition, and I find the whole idea vaguely amusing. Regardless, why would I lie about something that someone else did, while in some anonymity myself, and to total strangers on the internet? What is my motive, and what do I gain? I've never seen a 3x3x3 cube; I'd never even heard of one until today. That doesn't mean I go about 'calling bullshit' on 3x3x3 cubes. I don't even need to read an article about one to accept their existence. I suspect that you've never seen anyone solve a 4x4x4 cube in around a minute, but since you read it in an article it is your truth. Why can't you accept that someone could solve a 4x4x4 cube in around 30 seconds? Because it is not in an article? And your faith in that, that it must be a lie for exceeding the claims of the article, is so strong that you call me a liar for mentioning what I have seen? Try to fathom that there exist things that aren't documented in articles. Things that you haven't seen. Things that you can't do. Some have seen them. Some can do them. Take your bullshit and cram it back into your mouth from which it surely came. And the next time you find yourself on guard and alone, surrounded by liars and foes, consider that perhaps some of them speak the truth, and that you must change yourself to escape.

    5. Re:How about a 20x20x20 cube...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Relax, breathe, and consider the possibility that that "4x4x4 cube back in college" really was a 3x3x3 cube. 3x3x3 is the standard size, and is 10 times more common that the other sizes.

  27. 5x5 by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

    If you don't want to read RTFA then here's something interesting I noticed. One of the competitions is for a 5x5 cube, or a Professors cube. I know it would personallt ake me about 5 years to do this.

    1. Re:5x5 by The+New+Andy · · Score: 1

      I have worked out the 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5 on my own without getting any help, and in my experience, getting the 3x3 was the hardest. Once I had that algorithm sorted out, it made doing the bigger ones easy, and I believe that if you can solve all the way up to 7x7, then you can solve any size as long as you can remember some parity stuff. I have no idea what this parity stuff is, which is why my algorithm for the 4x4 and the 5x5 have the last step being: "If two things are out of place, then scramble it all and try again"... it is still good enough though, I can get 2 min for 3x3 and 30 min for the 4x4 and 5x5.

    2. Re:5x5 by Lars83 · · Score: 1

      I can do the 5x5x5 in about 45 minutes, pretty consistently. I actually find the 4x4x4 to be a bit tougher, because there is no "middle" row, meaning it's tougher to keep track of which side is going to be which color. It can only be solved with one orientation, but you have to plan it out much more thoughtfully. With the odd cubes (3x3x3 and 5x5x5), there are three axes that pass through each other, making a 3D cross. The center square on each face is mounted to that axis, so the colors that need to be opposite each other remain opposite each other. This is not true for the 4x4x4, or even the 2x2x2.

  28. actually by AntiNeutrino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    don't you mean ... a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube?

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    1. Re:actually by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      If it's a cube, you only have to specify one dimension. But it sounds silly & confusing to say a "3 cube," so people say "3 by 3 cube," and notate as 3x3 cube.

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  29. haha by Danzigism · · Score: 0

    thats cool as shit.. i'm going to try to get a friend sign up for that contest.. i thought that program slashdot mentioned a year or so ago that regarded cracking the rubiks code.. gave you instructions to solving your puzzle based on what colors were currently showing.. what the hell was that program?

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  30. Re:What's that for a standard ? by Jawju · · Score: 1

    5x5x5 cubes exist, I even owned one once (before it broke). Took me about 20-30 minutes to solve it - not very quick, but I was still happy to have memorised all the little formulas :-)

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 83HIHM/002-1699118-6329633?v=glance

  31. got me beat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Two decades after getting my first cube and I still haven't solved the damn thing. :(

    Solved the Clock, Magics, and can make just about anything with the Snake, but not the cube in any of its sizes.

  32. Nope... by Butterspoon · · Score: 1

    It's 1/12. Half of the possible edge positions are unreachable from a solved cube, and 1/6 of the corner cubie configurations can't be reached.

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    1. Re:Nope... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Well, I self-corrected just 5 minutes before you posted this, even referring to your earlier correct number. Seems I'm not the only one who doesn't read all other answers before replying :-)

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  33. Yes, but can they beat by Stonent1 · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Yes, but can they beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re-educate yourself comrade!
      No More Competition! Garanteed equality of results!

      From the manual: "Hold in hands. Rotate. Did the squares stay red on all sides? Then you've equalled the best records of the world's greatest players!"

      Remember, Wining is losing and losing is wining comrade. No one is equal until no one wins.

    2. Re:Yes, but can they beat by PatrickThomson · · Score: 1

      The real question is, can they beat NATURE'S HARMONIC SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE?

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  34. Speed cubing pioneer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jessica Fridrich has kindly published her notes on the process of speed cubing: http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/cube.html

    Watch her solve cubes!
    http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/video.html#l ast

  35. 15 seconds by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    If you're one of the guys solving it in 15 seconds (unblindfolded) I'd assume you've effectively memorized and mapped out all the necessary moves before they put the cube in your hand.

    But I think you impress more chicks by saying you can do it blindfolded

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    1. Re:15 seconds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you are propably nerd of such caliber that chicks need blindfolders to do it with you.

    2. Re:15 seconds by dim5 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Actually, the Fridrich method (which is what most people with times under 30 seconds use), requires 4 looks, and only the first step requires on-the-spot thinking to plan out:
      1. Get the edge pieces of the top layer in place (7-10 moves, different every time)
      2. Put the corner pieces of the top layer and edge pieces of the middle layer in place (1 of 22 algorithms, all memorized)
      3. Get all of the bottom layer to be one color (1 of 41 memorized algorithms)
      4. Get all of the pieces of the bottom layer into the right position (1 of 13 memorized algorithms)

      The real speed is in planning out the 7-10 moves for the first step in your head before starting (you get 15 seconds to do this), and starting the next step's algorithm as soon as possible once you finish each step. You don't have to plan out the whole solve from the start.

      I created an additional step to get the edge pieces showing a cross on the bottom layer before getting the colors on the corners oriented, reducing the number of algorithms to memorize for step 3 from 41 to 6, but it hurts my time (my current best is 54 seconds).

      Now, to solve blindfolded, on the other hand, you do need to memorize the cube first. But this could take 90 minutes to commit to memory and plan out, vs. the 15 seconds to only plan the first move. It's really an entirely different approach. I've heard that it's easier to memorize faces as numbers (1-6) instead of colors, but either way I find the whole thing baffling.

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  36. Rubik cube solver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all those who don't want to spend too much time on them ...

  37. Been There, Done That by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember the Rubik's Cube from first time around. I knew a few different "complete solutions" -- depending on the initial state, one might be significantly faster than the others. I rarely needed longer than a minute. My friend and I built a fake "cube solving machine" from an old washing machine box, with a hatch tor loading the "scrambled" cube, a drawer for removing the "solved" cube -- and me inside with a bicycle lamp, and a cassette recorder for sound effects!

    Obviously you cannot have just five faces "solved", but it is also not possible to have just four faces "solved". You can render a cube insoluble by reversing one of the two-sided pieces, or rotating one of the three-sided pieces. The easiest way to split a cube apart is to rotate one side by 45 degrees, and push the protruding corner piece until its latch pops out. Reassembly is done by inserting one of the two-sided pieces last. I have also seen evidence of very bad sticker-peeling, where one of the two-sided pieces carried the colours of opposite centres and one of the three-sided pieces carried the same colour on each face!

    Rubik's Snake was boring: all you could really make with it was a dog and a football.

    Rubik's Magic was a little better, because there were two different puzzles on the go: arranging the eight hinged squares to create a shape {4 x 2 rectangle, 3 x 3 square with corner missing, or various solids} and orientating the components of the shape to produce a picture {three separated rings on the rectangle, or three linked rings on the 3-3-2}.

    I remember Rubik's Clock best of all. I was given one of the first ones in the country, which my parents got from a toy shop in Yorkshire. It took me nearly two days to crack it -- and then I could not believe just how daft I had been in not spotting it sooner. The secret is to ghea gur pbeare onpxjneqf, ratntr vgf ohggba naq ghea rirelguvat sbejneqf gbtrgure.

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    1. Re:Been There, Done That by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

      cant belive i didnt think of that, still havent solved it, got it about 20 years ago too. time for a trip to the attic...

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    2. Re:Been There, Done That by kaszeta · · Score: 1
      I remember the Rubik's Cube from first time around. I knew a few different "complete solutions" -- depending on the initial state, one might be significantly faster than the others. I rarely needed longer than a minute.

      I never managed to get much faster than two minutes, since I could only easily think a few moves ahead; most of the people I know that are much faster than me pretty much have the whole series of moves figured out in their head right away.

      Still, I had to prove to my coworkers a few weeks ago that I could solve the Cube. 3 minutes, so I'm not that rusty.

      Then again, in college my roommate and I had an entire shelf of weird puzzles and brain teasers, and we'd practice for speed, so I got pretty good at this sort of thing. My favorite was the Square-1, which looks a lot more intimdating than the Rubik's cube, but is actually a lot simpler, especially if you are good at getting the thing back into it's cube shape

    3. Re:Been There, Done That by DavidB · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Obviously you cannot have just five faces "solved", but it is also not possible to have just four faces "solved".

      Not true. There are many examples, but here are a couple examples sequences that leave only two faces scrambled:

      1) F2 R2 F2 R2 F2 R2
      2) R2 U' F2 R2 F2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U' R2

      > The easiest way to split a cube apart is to rotate one side by 45 degrees, and push the protruding corner piece until its latch pops out.

      That's a pretty rough way to do it. You're better off turning the top face by 45 degrees and using a scredriver (or your finger) to pry one of the edge pieces upward until it pops out. The rest of the pieces will come out pretty easily after that.

    4. Re:Been There, Done That by praxim · · Score: 1
      The secret is to ghea gur pbeare onpxjneqf, ratntr vgf ohggba naq ghea rirelguvat sbejneqf gbtrgure.

      Crap, does anyone know Welsh?

    5. Re:Been There, Done That by Mantle · · Score: 1

      I don't know if that was a joke or not, but the code is ROT-13 and can be decoded here: http://decode.org/

  38. Not as tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can learn to solve the 3X3 in less then a minute in about a month of practicing. 15 second solves are mostly luck of pieces sorting in a way were you can skip a step.

    1. Re:Not as tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The format was: 5 attempts, average of all but fastest and slowest attempt.

      So you say that he got lucky for 4 cubes out of 5? And what about 10 people with averages of 17.42 or less, all lucky?

  39. I could do it behind my back by jocknerd · · Score: 1

    Its all about memorizing a routine. I bought a book and learned what to do. You set one corner up correctly and then every move after that is performed in sequence until it is solved. Don't remember how long it took to solve it but I would say maybe about a minute. Once you solve it though, it got boring. I've still got the cube, but I don't have the book anymore. So without the book, its taking me 20+ years and I still haven't solved it.

  40. Erno Rubik by onetruedabe · · Score: 1

    More fun was taking a two-pack -- with a full-size cube and a keychain mini-cube -- giving the mini-cube to a friend to mix up, then arranging the full-sized cube to match the scrambled one.

    It was harder because you couldn't tell what needed to be done at a glance (Normally, if a side was all blue except for two, you knew what you needed to do. This way you actually had to keep comparing over and over, and thinking about "Okay... This corner has to be blue, yellow, and red. Now where *IS* the blue, yellow, and red corner?")

    I used to carry around a Rubik's Cube in the car.

    When I got to one red light, I'd mix it up. Then when I got to the next red light, I'd solve it. It usually took two red lights for me to finish, though -- probably about a minute total.

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    1. Re:Erno Rubik by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      It usually took two red lights for me to finish, though -- probably about a minute total.

      Your red lights only last 30 seconds? Wow... Where do you live?

  41. Re:What's that for a standard ? by Nuskrad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it was first sold in Hungary in 1977. Similar devices were also seperatly invented by Japanese and American manufacturers, but the toy popularised worldwide is the original hungarian invention, named after it's creator Enro Rubik

  42. Pubic Rubik Cubic by ElephanTS · · Score: 1

    I used to be able to solve the cube when I was at school. My fastest time was 33 seconds although that was a freak - normally it would be 60-90 seconds. Half the people in my class could solve it and we all used fixed moves (transforms I spose a mathematician would call them) to get there. The only thing that was hard was to complete the top face (with all the upper sides correct) - from there the transforms could be applied from memory. The moves were shown to us by other people and were closely guarded secrets like joing the magic circle or something. The fastest times came from the authentic "rubik's' cube (the knock-offs were mechanically slower by miles) and extra lubrication using graphite or bike oil. I was 13 years old probably the perfect age to be doing it. My family still talk about this ability of mine at Xmas and stuff although I had completely forgotten the moves by my twenties. I read the book that was published and it contained extra steps and longer transforms than the methods we had learnt, so you could never beat our fastest times with 'shop bought knowledge'. Oh happy days!!!!

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  43. THIRD (3rd) WC by nathanchristie · · Score: 1

    This was the third world championship in history. I participated and finished a measly 90th with a best time of 30 seconds. That's horrible considering my average is between 24-27. It was nerve-racking being on stage and all those cameras though :) SO MUCH FUN though!

  44. 14 seconds pfft? by AviLazar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've been working on it for 15 years! Now that's amazing.

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  45. Re:Here's something on the origins of the thing, a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's the gratuitous wikipedia link, you know - without all the adverts, popups, and what not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubix_Cube

  46. Re:What's that for a standard ? by DavidB · · Score: 1

    I've also heard that they are starting production of 6x6x6 cubes:

    http://www.olympicube.com/

  47. WRONG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You mean WD-40 NOT DW 40 and as far as Rubik's cube lubricants go, WD-40 is at the bottom of the food chain and is a sure sign of a ROOKIE cuber. Using WD-40 is a sure way to become the laughing stock of your local speedcubing guild. You're the kind of person who probably thinks the Petrus method is the fastest, or, God forbid, you think the Friedrich method is superior! I would challenge you to a cube-off, but I would crush your perception of your cubing abilities so badly that you would surely never recover. I'm all about fostering the cubing community, so I won't do that. Years from now, you'll thank me for this tough love. Just remember, don't hate the player, hate the game.

    Peace out.
    --The Cube Mastah (TCM)

    1. Re:WRONG! by Tashmire · · Score: 1, Funny

      Lets do it, cube off. I'll bring my WD-40, but if you go as far as lubing yours up with KY Jelly, i'm out. We're having a cubing competition, not rubing one out.

    2. Re:WRONG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahem.

      ...

      NEEEEERRRDDD!

    3. Re:WRONG! by stanmann · · Score: 1

      Nah, Astroglide or Graphite.

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    4. Re:WRONG! by Lars83 · · Score: 1

      DO NOT lube your cube with WD-40! It will eat the insides of the cube after you play with it long enough. The best lube is by far silicone spray. Pick a can up at the hardware store. It's amazing how long it will keep it moving freely.

  48. Macky? by Psionicist · · Score: 1

    Wonder what happened to that Japanese kid who solved it in 12 seconds in 2003 (2004?) There's a really cool video of it here somewhere. http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

    1. Re:Macky? by Gorimek · · Score: 1

      He's ended up third in the big competition, and placed high in several of the others. Search for Shotaro on the result page.I doubt it helped to have one (or more) film teams following your every action and word during the entire weekend...

  49. Anecdote: My Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In fourth grade (1982) I signed up in my school's talent show to solve a Rubik's Cube while being timed. Even though I had learned (from a book) how to solve the cube from a generic random state, I had "pre-scrambled" the cube in a state that looked random but I knew how to solve from there in very few turns. While I was waiting in line for my turn to go on, the person behind me in line asked to see the cube. I handed it to him, and while I turned back to watch the show, he started turning the faces on the cube. When I saw him doing that, I thought I was hosed, since I would have to solve it "honestly."

    Anyway, I did solve it on stage, in 1 minute 28 seconds, my best time ever.

  50. The Thong Song by charlesbakerharris · · Score: 1
    I would personally like to thank Jason Thong for competing.

    Thong.

  51. Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can probably do it in about 3 seconds. The trick: cut open a not yet-scrambled cube from pack, then place on table

  52. What about Rubiks Revenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the 4 x 4 cube. I couldn't even solve one side. I never heard about anyone solving it. Are there competitions for that? Can it be solved by anyone?

    1. Re:What about Rubiks Revenge by Thrymm · · Score: 1

      On the link in the article there's a list of results for 4x4 and even 5x5!

    2. Re:What about Rubiks Revenge by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      My method for solving the 4X4 was to get the inner square to be one color and the edge colors to be paired, and then solve as a 3X3.

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  53. but youre no friend of /.; bad links by cintyram · · Score: 1

    stupid registry ads show up if you follow the links in the parent post

  54. I read a cheat book... by DaveM753 · · Score: 1

    Back in the early 80s, I used to be able to solve the puzzle, on average, in 2.5 to 3 minutes. My fastest was 1:46, but that was a fluke -- that was the only time I broke 2 minutes.

    Every morning for a month, I'd get up and my Mom would have messed up my two Cubes. I'd sigh, sit down and solve them, and then head off to school.

    That cheat book cost me all of $5, but it sure made people think I was smart. Fools!

  55. It's a decent challenge. by Crispix · · Score: 2, Informative

    The 3x3 cube is a reasonable challenge, but anyone can learn to solve it without having to memorize any special "moves". I can solve it consistently in about 5-7 minutes just by working through it. (There are many, many methods.) It's one of those things that can look quite difficult at first, but when shown how to do it, you are quickly surprised at how easy it really is. I'd compare it to juggling 3 balls at once -- just about anyone can do it with a bit of practice.

    The guys that solve the cube in mere seconds or minutes have memorized moves and sequences to several cubes in place simultaneously, but it's really not necessary if you don't mind taking up a few more minutes to solve it.

  56. 3x3 in 10.95 sec by SpinyNorman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check this video out - solved in 10.95sec

    http://www.xpert.co.kr/1enjoy/2game/cube/pds/1095. wmv

    Some amusing well-deserved gleeful cackling at the end!

    Link posted in the "chatter" section of Macky's page:

    http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

  57. More videos (fastest 10.29 secs) by MrHen · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was a link to StrangePuzzle.com which has loads of videos.

    They have a search by time and puzzle. The fastest I found was 10.29s for 3x3x3. It looks as if it was timed a bit different though.

  58. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about.com IS a very annoying site

  59. Original by anonymo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not really: Japanese, French and American stated that they have the Cube, but only Rubik's was a working toy. E.g.: the Japanese had no documentation about how the invention came, the French had a drawing with stings attaches cubes and the American just did not work and never made into a working unit.
    So even if they were not cheating (that is mostly possible because the Magic Cube was produced before patenting and the American and the Japanese patents are newer the the Hungarian) they could not create a working unit and support it with a documented development process.

    Rubik's greatest invention on the Cube was that inside the Cube there's a sphere so the construction can turn around on the 3 axes easily.
    He had - and only Rubik had - documented, working predecessors like the rubber string solution that didn't last long.

    There were some fun incidents on the road, eg. when the Hungarian manufacturer could not produce enough units they bought a lot from Taiwan or Hong-Kong but they were bad quality even if there was a "Made in Hungary" on them :-)

    I remember very well because I could not manage to buy one but the radio, TV and newspapers were soon full of it :-) When I got one, people on the bus/metro asked me to borrow or buy for 10x the shop price when I was trying to solve it by myself :-)
    At work my boss stopped supervising us when I lent it to him :-)
    I still remember the ache in my arms and fingers...

    I know a Mathematician who got an early example and she was the very 1st person who looked at the cube on 3 sides, turned the cube to verify that she thought it's positions then hided the cube behind her back and could complete it without seenig it until finished. I was very impressed :)
    She showed me that solving the cube is not reversing it to the original positions, "only" making the squares on all sides of the same colour.
    You can verify it if you write a letter or number on every square of the same colour in the same position, scramble it and solve the puzzle. you will see that the numbers/letters are in wrong position.
    Btw. she wrote the 1st program in Fortran that solved the puzzle just a few months later.

    1. Re:Original by zod1025 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You can verify it if you write a letter or number on every square of the same colour in the same position, scramble it and solve the puzzle. you will see that the numbers/letters are in wrong position.

      This is not true. There is only one position for each block of the Cube. The center squares of each face do not move, only rotate. If you write a number on each square, then scramble and solve, you will end up with everything in the original positions (although the center square of each face will probably have rotated).

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    2. Re:Original by anonymo · · Score: 1

      Probably I was not clear: a better word instead of position is orientation.
      There are special puzzles out there with other than colours: using numbers, letter, photos. Those are harder to solve because you have to _orient_ (:position) the edge-squares to the central square in only one way.

      If you still doubt, I suggest grab a cube, mark all sides with letters or numbers and you will see.

  60. Actually, ... by krygny · · Score: 1

    ... I apparently had developed my own algorithm, sub-consciously. Maybe not very efficient, or perhaps PROficient, and I couldn't express it in a formula, but it was reproduceble. I just didn't want to learn somebody else's algorithm. That's what I meant by "cheat". No fun, or adventure, or mental exercise in it.

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  61. WTF? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

    How the hell do you solve blindfolded??? Braille?

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    1. Re:WTF? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      My guess. Counting

  62. Where to get new stickers by Gorimek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, the stickers wear out pretty fast, and you have to replace them if you do any semi serious cubing.

    I do mine myself, but if you're not DIY inclined and/or want professional quality stuff, you can order from Cubesmith.

  63. HOWTO spot a tampered cube / tamper with it by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Informative

    No need to know how to solve a cube or even try a single move before spotting a problem.

    The central squares on each face of the cube cannot be moved, only rotated. So, for example, if two of them are same color, the cube has been tampered with.

    Anyway the surest way is to look at those "opposing" colors. IIRC most cubes had the green face opposed to the blue one, white face to yellow, orange to dark red...
    anyway one can just look at the cube's central squares and see what the opposite colors should be if the cube were not tampered with.

    Spotting lateral or angular little cubes which have opposing colors on their faces means the cube has been tampered with. Easier to spot on angular little cubes.

    That's because most people think that the more they mess with the colors the more they will confuse you. Instead, switching only two couples of stickers will be enough and quite more difficult to spot.

    I had learned a simple way to solve the cube, with 3 main sequences, average time 3 and a half minutes without fretting too much.

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  64. That looks infinite to me by 2901 · · Score: 1

    Consider xyxyxyxyx....
    You must need some commutation relations

    1. Re:That looks infinite to me by siwelwerd · · Score: 1

      That's what I get for posting that early in the morning. Seems like it would be isomorphic to the direct product of 6 4-cycles, now that I think about it, since there are 6 faces you can rotate.

  65. New York City Rubik's Cube by Entropy248 · · Score: 1
    Obligitory disclaimer: I work for an extremely famous toy store mentioned in this post. I link there because I want to; they don't know about this post.

    The snake is really the most fun toy out of all the Rubik's toys. You can give that to a very small kid and it'll be fun for hours as they manipulate it in various ways. Once you're a bit older, you can start to work on the "puzzle shapes," like the eagle, the star, the pyramid, tetrahedron, or the famous terrier (dog). If you've never seen the snake, it's a series of alternating blue and white triangular solids. Where the triangles meet, there is a joint that allows full 360 rotation around the point of intersection.

    The largest official Rubik's cube is the 5 x 5. It's being re-released for Rubik's 25th Anniversary. I cannot help but wonder if they are re-releasing it because of a string of much tougher puzzles about to be released.

    If you're ever in NYC on a Saturday, stop by FAO Schwarz. There's a guy there (Hector) who can solve the cube in about a minute. He claims to be able to solve the 5x5 in about 28 minutes. They sell the snake too, and they're one of the only stores in the USA to carry it. www.fao.com Search for Rubik's (although the snake is only available in-store).

  66. Fun with other patterns by DrEasy · · Score: 1

    Once you've learned how to solve the cube (using some simple methods I can get it done in around 2 minutes, nothing impressive), the next fun thing to do is trying to obtain other geometric patterns starting from the solved one. For example, you can rotate the left side 90 degreees upwards and the right side 90 degrees downwards, then face the left side of the cube, apply the same transformation and so on... If I remember correctly, at some point you end up with "Z" shapes on the 4 lateral sides. And if you keep going, you get back to the solved cube!

    One I could never obtain that way was to end up with "+" shapes on all 6 sides. Of course I can just come up with it the way I would solve the regular cube, but even then the different pattern plays tricks on you and requires more concentration.

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