Your whole post proves my point. You can't, without a lot of work, define music. Schenker did it with a system of analysis; anything his system couldn't deal with he didn't consider to be music. His analysis only works with german baroque, classical, and romantic music.
Samuel Johnson's definition doesn't work; what is pleasing to the ear is proven relative.
At one point someone offered me the definition of 'anything notated using a staff and notes'. This excludes all non-western music, a lot of jazz, and probably a lot of rock; it clearly doesn't work.
Just because you start within a system does not make your music random. I don't know how their algorithms worked but they certainly made aesthetic choices.
Every composer starts within some system, and these can of varying degrees of confinement. Most pop music uses the system of I, IV, and V chords and the form of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. Mozart used the system know as tonality to compose, and he used many classical forms. Schoenberg used the system of serialism, one that he invented. Serialism is of course a more restrictive system than tonality, but in both you make many many many choices.
These guys just invented their own system, and unless they write about their compositional process we can't know how restrictive their system is or what aesthetic choices they made.
It's certainly understandable to not like this music, however you must at least respect it. I'm guessing these guys worked a lot harder on this album than most pop stars work on their stuff. If you've been listening to classical and early romantic music or top 40 all your life this sounds really foreign; that can be disturbing, but don't dismiss them because you don't like it.
Just out of curiosity, what music do you like? Don't just say 'rock' or 'classical' (both oft-abused terms), be specific.
Right now that's the way it is in Microsoft, but they may be making a genuine effort.
If the default isn't to be run as admin, then most programs will be written to run with limited privileges. I'm not holding my breath, but it's possible for them to turn it around.
Regardless, I'll be sticking to my macs, just because I know they work correctly mow, not that they will in the future.
And "noobs" who do know just a little better will give themselves administrator accounts so that they can install software whenever they want without changing roles, completely mooting any "default user level access" security changes being made.
If the default is to be more secure, here the blame lies with the users. In Mac OS X and Linux you can run as root, but no one criticizes Apple or Torvalds for it. Be fair to Microsoft, and let this blame lie where it should, with users who refuse to type in their password once in a while when they want to install some software or modify their system.
I believe the parent to your post was also trying to be funny.
Perhaps neither of us have working humor detectors right now. I know mine's been on the fritz; it keeps telling me that I should be laughing at Jeff Foxworthy.
Miso is used to make sauces, not sandwiches. It's a salty ingredient made through fermentation. Get your asian foods straight before you keep making yourself look like an ass.
The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village"; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right...
And exactly what is wrong with this? If a bunch of young adults get together and fuck each other there's nothing wrong with that. No one's being forced to do anything; no one gets hurt. Athletes deserve privacy, too.
There's another place where young adults are packed in together, where a list of every person in available, where they give you free internet access. It's called college, and lots of sex happens there, too. The people who don't want to have sex, don't have sex. The people who do want to have sex generally do. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I agreed with almost everything on your list until this point. I almost think that the Olympics should be held nude again, then maybe NBC could make a profit. Oh wait, except the FCC says that's illegal.
Lag refers to network latency. Symptoms include everyone walking in straight lines, monsters not attacking you, and things like that.
Slowdown refers to the things you describe. This is when your computer just isn't beefy enough to render all those cute little triangles. Symptoms are a severe drop in framerate.
Please! Don't use incorrect terminology. It dilutes our language, and we all have to live with it.
It's not that they exist, it's that they are free for everyone to use. You don't need a developer license or anything crazy like that, you just download and tinker.
Apple still supports the hacker mentality.
That's why they give away their developer tools, that's why they make their frameworks available to everyone to use in their software, that's why they spend so much time documenting them.
Gregorian (not Gregorian at all, that's a myth started by Charlemagne) Chant was not popular in the 90's. It may have gained an increased following, but it was not popular. It wasn't even popular when it was written. It was just church music.
Edison deserves little of the credit he has today. Basically, he had a factory full of people to test for him so he could issue a lot of patents (sound familiar?).
"Invention is 10% inspiration, 90% perspiration." -Thomas Edison
"Perhaps if Edison thought a little smarter he wouldn't sweat so much." - Tesla (supposedly)
I think your problem is precisely that you actually thought Saddam Hussein had weapons. I know a lot of people, myself included, who, after hearing all of Bush's evidence, shouted BULLSHIT as loud as we could; our protests were mostly ignored. A big part of our skepticism was based not on the evidence itself, but Bush's character. Basically, we were cynical and you were not.
Now, there's nothing wrong with not being cynical. You're supposed to be able to trust the president, and you were lied to.
We can't change the past, but we can affect the future. George W. Bush has severely abused his power as president. Write to your senators and congressmen; call for impeachment hearings. At the very least the investigation will get to the bottom of this pile of shit we have for an administration.
This is where we have to start looking at actual costs of production. If you own the VHS tape, you've already paid the actors/writers/directors/original special effect people/etc, but for the higher quality maybe you should still pay the crew that cleans up the original release for the new one.
It comes down to: how much did it cost to make the re-release? (I'll assume that if you could have bought it on DVD in the first place you would have, and the studios can safely assume that, too). It gets tricky when you have things like LotR. They released the regular DVD with a few extras. Then they released the extended edition with tons of extras (platinum series?). Then they released the whole trilogy in one monumental 12-DVD box set. This was an obvious attempt to get the gullible to buy each movie three times. What do you do here?
A powerbook G4 1.5Ghz is more than adequate for software development. Just because there's something better out there doesn't make your machine any less worthwhile. I have a 5 year old G4 tower running at 533mhz (x2) and I think it's just great. It plays WoW (graphics turned way down), it runs XCode, and I still have room to pop in more RAM if I want it. Yes, I'll probably upgrade at some point in 2006, but mostly for the sake of a few games I like to play.
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Your whole post proves my point. You can't, without a lot of work, define music. Schenker did it with a system of analysis; anything his system couldn't deal with he didn't consider to be music. His analysis only works with german baroque, classical, and romantic music.
Samuel Johnson's definition doesn't work; what is pleasing to the ear is proven relative.
At one point someone offered me the definition of 'anything notated using a staff and notes'. This excludes all non-western music, a lot of jazz, and probably a lot of rock; it clearly doesn't work.
Just because you start within a system does not make your music random. I don't know how their algorithms worked but they certainly made aesthetic choices.
Every composer starts within some system, and these can of varying degrees of confinement. Most pop music uses the system of I, IV, and V chords and the form of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. Mozart used the system know as tonality to compose, and he used many classical forms. Schoenberg used the system of serialism, one that he invented. Serialism is of course a more restrictive system than tonality, but in both you make many many many choices.
These guys just invented their own system, and unless they write about their compositional process we can't know how restrictive their system is or what aesthetic choices they made.
It's certainly understandable to not like this music, however you must at least respect it. I'm guessing these guys worked a lot harder on this album than most pop stars work on their stuff. If you've been listening to classical and early romantic music or top 40 all your life this sounds really foreign; that can be disturbing, but don't dismiss them because you don't like it.
Just out of curiosity, what music do you like? Don't just say 'rock' or 'classical' (both oft-abused terms), be specific.
Can you offer a coherent definition (that means not just a list of examples) of music that excludes this?
I think the only person who successfully defined music to only include what he liked was Heinrich Schenker.
It's too bad their webserver never made it into the third dimension.
Anyone have any more?
Right now that's the way it is in Microsoft, but they may be making a genuine effort.
If the default isn't to be run as admin, then most programs will be written to run with limited privileges. I'm not holding my breath, but it's possible for them to turn it around.
Regardless, I'll be sticking to my macs, just because I know they work correctly mow, not that they will in the future.
And "noobs" who do know just a little better will give themselves administrator accounts so that they can install software whenever they want without changing roles, completely mooting any "default user level access" security changes being made.
If the default is to be more secure, here the blame lies with the users. In Mac OS X and Linux you can run as root, but no one criticizes Apple or Torvalds for it. Be fair to Microsoft, and let this blame lie where it should, with users who refuse to type in their password once in a while when they want to install some software or modify their system.
Nice...
That's all I have to say.
Miso sandwich implies that the sandwich uses miso as the primary ingredient. No sane person would do that.
Also, please see my reply to one of your sibling posts (that would make it the cousin of this, if you like forum genealogy).
I believe the GP was being funny.
I believe the parent to your post was also trying to be funny.
Perhaps neither of us have working humor detectors right now. I know mine's been on the fritz; it keeps telling me that I should be laughing at Jeff Foxworthy.
Miso is used to make sauces, not sandwiches. It's a salty ingredient made through fermentation. Get your asian foods straight before you keep making yourself look like an ass.
Are you going for First Surrealist Post?
The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village"; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right...
And exactly what is wrong with this? If a bunch of young adults get together and fuck each other there's nothing wrong with that. No one's being forced to do anything; no one gets hurt. Athletes deserve privacy, too.
There's another place where young adults are packed in together, where a list of every person in available, where they give you free internet access. It's called college, and lots of sex happens there, too. The people who don't want to have sex, don't have sex. The people who do want to have sex generally do. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I agreed with almost everything on your list until this point. I almost think that the Olympics should be held nude again, then maybe NBC could make a profit. Oh wait, except the FCC says that's illegal.
A Brief Note:
Lag refers to network latency. Symptoms include everyone walking in straight lines, monsters not attacking you, and things like that.
Slowdown refers to the things you describe. This is when your computer just isn't beefy enough to render all those cute little triangles. Symptoms are a severe drop in framerate.
Please! Don't use incorrect terminology. It dilutes our language, and we all have to live with it.
It's not that they exist, it's that they are free for everyone to use. You don't need a developer license or anything crazy like that, you just download and tinker.
Apple still supports the hacker mentality. That's why they give away their developer tools, that's why they make their frameworks available to everyone to use in their software, that's why they spend so much time documenting them.
Gregorian (not Gregorian at all, that's a myth started by Charlemagne) Chant was not popular in the 90's. It may have gained an increased following, but it was not popular. It wasn't even popular when it was written. It was just church music.
If you like pop (in a broad sense) music, don't take music theory. You'll realize how shitty most of it is and then you'll feel empty.
Cars aren't free. Web browsers are.
If you were buying a new car, I would encourage you to try new models, not just get the latest in life of the model you already have.
Next time try an apt analogy.
Your argument of pragmatism is exactly what keeps millions and millions using Internet Exploder.
Edison deserves little of the credit he has today. Basically, he had a factory full of people to test for him so he could issue a lot of patents (sound familiar?).
"Invention is 10% inspiration, 90% perspiration." -Thomas Edison
"Perhaps if Edison thought a little smarter he wouldn't sweat so much." - Tesla (supposedly)
Those 15min recharge batteries only run at 1.2V. That's why they don't work in some devices.
I think your problem is precisely that you actually thought Saddam Hussein had weapons. I know a lot of people, myself included, who, after hearing all of Bush's evidence, shouted BULLSHIT as loud as we could; our protests were mostly ignored. A big part of our skepticism was based not on the evidence itself, but Bush's character. Basically, we were cynical and you were not.
Now, there's nothing wrong with not being cynical. You're supposed to be able to trust the president, and you were lied to.
We can't change the past, but we can affect the future. George W. Bush has severely abused his power as president. Write to your senators and congressmen; call for impeachment hearings. At the very least the investigation will get to the bottom of this pile of shit we have for an administration.
Ahhh, sorry.
The parent was (and still is) below my threshold.
[condescending]In the future, please quote statements like that from people who have no hope of getting modded up.[/condescending]
This is where we have to start looking at actual costs of production. If you own the VHS tape, you've already paid the actors/writers/directors/original special effect people/etc, but for the higher quality maybe you should still pay the crew that cleans up the original release for the new one.
It comes down to: how much did it cost to make the re-release? (I'll assume that if you could have bought it on DVD in the first place you would have, and the studios can safely assume that, too). It gets tricky when you have things like LotR. They released the regular DVD with a few extras. Then they released the extended edition with tons of extras (platinum series?). Then they released the whole trilogy in one monumental 12-DVD box set. This was an obvious attempt to get the gullible to buy each movie three times. What do you do here?
Can your computer do what you want it to?
If so, it's not obsolete.
A powerbook G4 1.5Ghz is more than adequate for software development. Just because there's something better out there doesn't make your machine any less worthwhile. I have a 5 year old G4 tower running at 533mhz (x2) and I think it's just great. It plays WoW (graphics turned way down), it runs XCode, and I still have room to pop in more RAM if I want it. Yes, I'll probably upgrade at some point in 2006, but mostly for the sake of a few games I like to play.