What needs to happen to avoid the problem here is have many more paths for the data to flow, which requires better hardware and further decentralization
Agreed. I subscribed to Rhapsody last month. I consider $10/month a very reasonable rate for a service that gives me access to a large database of music
1-time purchase of 802.11(B, G, or E) AP: $100 1-time purchase of Wireless NIC: $60 200 Wireless P2P AP's in my community: FREE -- total $160 / lifetime.
Businesses aren't prioritizing thier IT budgets anymore. So the only way IT people can keep thier jobs nowadays is by jumping on the "terrorist" paranoia bandwagon.
It's called employment through FUD. Isn't it amazing how quickly we've degenerated into this? Do you security bigots remember the kinds of projects you were working on 3 years ago? Does it make you cry when you think about it?
The community makes Open apps to serve the community
Yes, that's exactly right. Programmers making apps to serve programmers. And excluding the useability needs of the other 99.99% of the planet.
Contrary to what you've said, linux is for the user
In principle, but not in practice. Linux is for the intellectual, and most programmers are intellect nazis who all believe that if the user's IQ is less than 120, fuck em.
I've left non-linux, non-geek users to sit at my icewm setup, and gone for about 20 minutes. I come back, they are playing music, surfing the web, and doing what they have to do. A smart person can handle a different set-up
Uh huh, and are you gonna go to all your friends houses and install Linux for them? Download drivers? manually compile them? How about recompile thier kernel for them at each update? You're gonna be a busy guy milling all around town, because none of your friends are gonna have a clue how to do these things.
In 100 years i'll look back and laugh, and say, you know, 100 years ago we were worrying about the MS/linux debate, and linux was growing like a monster. I'll be using something entirely new and snazzy - hopefully open source still...and loving it.
Hate to break it to you guy, but in 100 years you'll probably be dead.
Once again, you propeller heads get all excited about the 1% market share that Linux has clenched. All the while insisting that the "user" is the victim of some marketing scam.
Linux is a textbook example of bad useability. Keep condescending the user, and Linux will never...ever...catch up with Mircoseft.
When are you people going to get it? You represent about 0.001% of the human population, you're highly educated and get your jollys hacking C code, the other 99.99% of the world doesn't even know what you're talking about. Microsoft knows this, AOL knows this...and this is exactly why they get away with murder. They put useability first.
You people really need to get over your me-centric view of computing. What's the future of Linux if 50 years from now only 1% of the human population knows how to use it? That's right, the other 99% are using Windows. Same shit, different century.
A rootless peer to peer setup involves enormous networking overhead (over 1/2 the packets) that you wouldn't have with the standard download systems
The only thing that makes computers interesting is Moore's Law. If it wasn't for that, most of us wouldn't even be using these things...there'd just be a cloistered few of us at IBM or the DoD babysitting a main-frame.
What were your parents doing in the 60s and 70s? Smoking bud, drinking beer, going to football games...instead you're on Slashdot right now. And Moore's Law is the only reason.
If one thing is certain, the networks are going to get faster, the harddrives are going to hold more, memory will get cheaper and faster, etc. etc. etc. So you can harp all you want about performance problems in the present, but unless it's going to effect us 5 years from now, it's a moot argument.
Now if you want to argue that we should break all of our computers because it's giving you a 'moral' dilemma, then that's a different issue entirely.
Here's a good test I've developed to tell if a company is legit. Does it bundle spyware with the software? If yes, its most likely not legit and will be sued out of existance sometime soon
Yes, I purported to exercise a similar test on your testicles. But the test samples were too small to find anything conclusive.
And civilizations have been coming and going for at least 30,000 years. That's a lot of time in which things can happen...lots of metals rust. Well, not in this case.
Has anyone heard the story of the group of geology students who found a geode with a sparkplug-like object inside of it? True story, I believe they found it in the arizona desert. Those things take a long time to form. Maybe some visitors dropped a bubbelgum wrapper while on tour.
One thing that's saved me a lot of headaches is having 2 boxes. Most people like windoze games anyway, so it works out nice to share your dsl/cable connection between a Linux variant and a MS gaming box.
It's pretty invaluable to have a backup system so you can goto google and find out why something crashed in Linux, or vice-a-versa.
Most broadband modems have routers installed nowadays, then just buy a cheap hub from Linksys to share the connection(or buy a Linksys router). Also it's very handy to buy one of those computer I/O switch thingies...it allows you to use one keyboard to control both computers(while sharing the monitor)...all I do it ctl-alt-shift 1, or 2 to switch back and forth between computers.
Anyway Wil's article mentioned the danger inherant in crashing your only connection to the web while experimenting(where to go for help when you can't surf?)...and he also mentioned the drawback of not being able to play windows games in Linux...if you can afford a second box, this solves both problems very nicely.
This is the first step in a very deliberate process. Like playing Quake 3, or Counter-Strike? Better enjoy them while you can...soon you won't be able to play them without palladium enabled.
L33T speak has always been the province of "wanna-bes" trying to look cool. Nobody who wants to be understood will use it
Did you see it? You just contradicted your claim.
1337 speak was originally used as a kind of "poor man's" cryptography. Those who ran warez rings, pr0n etc. developed this kind of coded language so the feds couldn't find them.
When the feds search for "wrongdoers"(using predator or whatever godawful hell-on-earth software they have now), they cross-reference thier findings with a long list of "key terms" they're looking for. Once the feds learn about a particular term, like porn...then the rings invent a new word like pron, next it's pr0n, or p40n, etc. etc. All of this was traditionally used to stay one step ahead of the bad guys(feds in this case).
were you entirely asleep during the dot-com boom and meltdown? how does this crapola get on slashdot?
Or, 200 people in a city buy wireless AP's for a few hundred dollars and form thier own micro-internet. Then one or two of the 200 actually has a connection to the internet(DSL or cable) and downloads the stuff the other 198 want to see.
Still think it's communist crap? What happens when 5 years from now a Linksys AP costs 20 bucks?
Let's see...I can buy a crappy CD or a wireless AP...hmm.
Somewhere along the line the economics of your dot-com bashing breaks down, and it will just be so cheap/easy to built a wireless network that people won't think twice about spending the money. Banner ads? Ancient history.
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What needs to happen to avoid the problem here is have many more paths for the data to flow, which requires better hardware and further decentralization
Problem solved
The parent is modded funny, but it's not funny, it's cold truth.
Yep. More truth than poetry that's for sure.
Agreed. I subscribed to Rhapsody last month. I consider $10/month a very reasonable rate for a service that gives me access to a large database of music
Nice, here's your future monthly bill:
DSL: $50/month
CableTV: $60/month
Phone: $25/month
Cellular: $30/month
Tivo: $12/month
Online Music: $10/month
Online Movies: $20/month
Online Games: $15/month
Online Books: $8/month
Online Magazines/Journals: $5/month
---
total $235/month
$235*12 = $2,820 a year.
Here's mine:
1-time purchase of 802.11(B, G, or E) AP: $100
1-time purchase of Wireless NIC: $60
200 Wireless P2P AP's in my community: FREE
--
total $160 / lifetime.
Guess I know what I want for Christmas.
Why is there so much ignorance about security?
Who put all that confusion in there?
Businesses aren't prioritizing thier IT budgets anymore. So the only way IT people can keep thier jobs nowadays is by jumping on the "terrorist" paranoia bandwagon.
It's called employment through FUD. Isn't it amazing how quickly we've degenerated into this? Do you security bigots remember the kinds of projects you were working on 3 years ago? Does it make you cry when you think about it?
The community makes Open apps to serve the community
Yes, that's exactly right. Programmers making apps to serve programmers. And excluding the useability needs of the other 99.99% of the planet.
Contrary to what you've said, linux is for the user
In principle, but not in practice. Linux is for the intellectual, and most programmers are intellect nazis who all believe that if the user's IQ is less than 120, fuck em.
I've left non-linux, non-geek users to sit at my icewm setup, and gone for about 20 minutes. I come back, they are playing music, surfing the web, and doing what they have to do. A smart person can handle a different set-up
Uh huh, and are you gonna go to all your friends houses and install Linux for them? Download drivers? manually compile them? How about recompile thier kernel for them at each update? You're gonna be a busy guy milling all around town, because none of your friends are gonna have a clue how to do these things.
In 100 years i'll look back and laugh, and say, you know, 100 years ago we were worrying about the MS/linux debate, and linux was growing like a monster. I'll be using something entirely new and snazzy - hopefully open source still...and loving it.
Hate to break it to you guy, but in 100 years you'll probably be dead.
Once again, you propeller heads get all excited about the 1% market share that Linux has clenched. All the while insisting that the "user" is the victim of some marketing scam.
Linux is a textbook example of bad useability. Keep condescending the user, and Linux will never...ever...catch up with Mircoseft.
When are you people going to get it? You represent about 0.001% of the human population, you're highly educated and get your jollys hacking C code, the other 99.99% of the world doesn't even know what you're talking about. Microsoft knows this, AOL knows this...and this is exactly why they get away with murder. They put useability first.
You people really need to get over your me-centric view of computing. What's the future of Linux if 50 years from now only 1% of the human population knows how to use it? That's right, the other 99% are using Windows. Same shit, different century.
For anyone who still thinks copyright has a place in music today, please take a moment to read this.
Thankyou sir. You said it very very well.
Won't they be dissapointed.
A rootless peer to peer setup involves enormous networking overhead (over 1/2 the packets) that you wouldn't have with the standard download systems
The only thing that makes computers interesting is Moore's Law. If it wasn't for that, most of us wouldn't even be using these things...there'd just be a cloistered few of us at IBM or the DoD babysitting a main-frame.
What were your parents doing in the 60s and 70s? Smoking bud, drinking beer, going to football games...instead you're on Slashdot right now. And Moore's Law is the only reason.
If one thing is certain, the networks are going to get faster, the harddrives are going to hold more, memory will get cheaper and faster, etc. etc. etc. So you can harp all you want about performance problems in the present, but unless it's going to effect us 5 years from now, it's a moot argument.
Now if you want to argue that we should break all of our computers because it's giving you a 'moral' dilemma, then that's a different issue entirely.
Here's a good test I've developed to tell if a company is legit. Does it bundle spyware with the software? If yes, its most likely not legit and will be sued out of existance sometime soon
Yes, I purported to exercise a similar test on your testicles. But the test samples were too small to find anything conclusive.
Cool, thanks for the link.
Yep, that's the one.
Nah, I like small nipples.
And civilizations have been coming and going for at least 30,000 years. That's a lot of time in which things can happen...lots of metals rust. Well, not in this case.
Has anyone heard the story of the group of geology students who found a geode with a sparkplug-like object inside of it? True story, I believe they found it in the arizona desert. Those things take a long time to form. Maybe some visitors dropped a bubbelgum wrapper while on tour.
One thing that's saved me a lot of headaches is having 2 boxes. Most people like windoze games anyway, so it works out nice to share your dsl/cable connection between a Linux variant and a MS gaming box.
It's pretty invaluable to have a backup system so you can goto google and find out why something crashed in Linux, or vice-a-versa.
Most broadband modems have routers installed nowadays, then just buy a cheap hub from Linksys to share the connection(or buy a Linksys router). Also it's very handy to buy one of those computer I/O switch thingies...it allows you to use one keyboard to control both computers(while sharing the monitor)...all I do it ctl-alt-shift 1, or 2 to switch back and forth between computers.
Anyway Wil's article mentioned the danger inherant in crashing your only connection to the web while experimenting(where to go for help when you can't surf?)...and he also mentioned the drawback of not being able to play windows games in Linux...if you can afford a second box, this solves both problems very nicely.
That's complete nonsense.
This is the first step in a very deliberate process. Like playing Quake 3, or Counter-Strike? Better enjoy them while you can...soon you won't be able to play them without palladium enabled.
L33T speak has always been the province of "wanna-bes" trying to look cool. Nobody who wants to be understood will use it
Did you see it? You just contradicted your claim.
1337 speak was originally used as a kind of "poor man's" cryptography. Those who ran warez rings, pr0n etc. developed this kind of coded language so the feds couldn't find them.
When the feds search for "wrongdoers"(using predator or whatever godawful hell-on-earth software they have now), they cross-reference thier findings with a long list of "key terms" they're looking for. Once the feds learn about a particular term, like porn...then the rings invent a new word like pron, next it's pr0n, or p40n, etc. etc. All of this was traditionally used to stay one step ahead of the bad guys(feds in this case).
Could someone post the following please:
1) Street Address
2) Phone Number
3) Names of directors and affiliates.
lol
Don't worry, it might as well be for martians cause the site is slashdotted to hell.
Might isn't right.
Signed, An American in Atlanta GA, USA
That's really cute.
What a great idea.
were you entirely asleep during the dot-com boom and meltdown? how does this crapola get on slashdot?
Or, 200 people in a city buy wireless AP's for a few hundred dollars and form thier own micro-internet. Then one or two of the 200 actually has a connection to the internet(DSL or cable) and downloads the stuff the other 198 want to see.
Still think it's communist crap? What happens when 5 years from now a Linksys AP costs 20 bucks?
Let's see...I can buy a crappy CD or a wireless AP...hmm.
Somewhere along the line the economics of your dot-com bashing breaks down, and it will just be so cheap/easy to built a wireless network that people won't think twice about spending the money. Banner ads? Ancient history.
I don't get it...those are some great ideas!