Pretty much what you have to do is claim that the reporter didn't print the truth, and that there was malicious intent.
I don't believe deciet is a prerequisite for libel.
So if you take his argument that Markoff was out to get him, and that what he wrote were lies, then you are well on your way to a libel suit.
I am sure that his lawyers have weighed all the pros and cons, the law, the burden of proof, the existance of proof, and the winnability of a jury trial with his reputation.
I personally think the libel law should be changed or amended to require malicious intent OR damage from any untruth or incomplete telling of the truth. There is no reason that reporters or editors can't report facts as completely as are available, without biasing the piece of work with lies, unchecked facts, and editorializing.
We have a freedom of the press. I wish more people respected it, and used it for what it was meant to be used for (instead of using it to sell ad space), and less people flaunted it as a shield for their greed and avarice.
I can't imagine why else you'd have cared. Apple would have stiffled it, like Palm has. They wouldn't have stolen much from it, and wouldn't have developed it, probably.
Can anyone briefly tell me what is great about BeOS?
I so want to like this OS, but when I installed it, it didn't strike me as more usable, faster, or anything.
A brief list of what its users really like about it as opposed to the billions of desktops (Windows, all the linux ones, OSX) might be beneficial to more than just me. I guess what I am asking is, where should I be looking for the greatness, or even novelty.
This is good example of what people call "common wisdom". Hard to argue with because everyone that has an opinion generally holds this to be true.
If you only live for yourself, and only make decisions on how those decisions will affect you, then you are an arrogant, selfish prick.
On the flip side, if you only make decisions based on how it will affect others around you, with no care for your own happiness, then you are a depressed, unhappy sot.
Off the cuff, flippant advice is just that. There is rarely a decision that only takes your personal view into account that ends up being a good one.
If there was a race, then Windows won.
Why is it all about winning and losing.
It is about choice.
Freedom to choose, or doesn't anyone get it.
It isn't a troll, it is a wakeup call. How can you call coming in a distant, questionable second, winning. The XP desktop is really sweet, if you like that sort of thing, and is more widely used. What race was won? The race for second?
Discuss. I challenge a flippant post, and I get modded as a troll.
It is about choice. It has always been about choice, and will always be about choice.
KDE hasn't won anything. That is like the little kid that takes of running. He gets to the end of the block and starts shouting "I WON, I WON" and no one else knew he was racing them.
I use linux, bsd, gnome, and kde. Depends on what I feel like. Choice.
If I wanted to follow suit with a winning technology that has the most support globally, I would stick with windows.
This post shows a complete lack of understanding of the problem, the internet, or IP.
Not to mention that his solution goes from solving a problem of 11 digit dialing by implimenting 12 digit dialing (and that is assuming IPv4). IPv6 will be even worse.
Now, combine his idea with IPv6 and some sort of AlphaNumeric dns type system, and then you have a headache, but somthing more along the lines of a working idea.
The fact that this got modded to a 4 shows that all the/. regulars are out of jobs deserve to be out of jobs for a reason, or haven't even got to high school yet.
You had, in your writings for linux.com, ventured out on a road of discovery to find the linux email client that best suited your needs. This was in pre-1.0 versions of Evolution.
I was wondering if you ever found one you liked, that scartched all your itches, or are you still looking?
The statute of limitations on civil suits isn't as black and white as the statute of limitations on criminal charges.
And if they are still trying to cover up who did what, a overly aggresive, and loophole savvy DA could try to go for conspiracy charges, since that crime is on going.
A/. Editor that doesn't toe the line regarding FSF and GNU being all powerful and all knowing, and the only orginization to even think about.
How could you slight them. The membership should be a forgone conclusion, you should be trying to pay twice the dues, and signing up your friends.
You should pass on the membership cards since they should be spending all that valuable time championing the GPL. We need the freedom to live under the rule of what RMS thinks is reasonable. Since he is the only reasonable person, it is pure unadulterated freedom to live like he wants me too.
Since you don't really know who might be sending you mail from that area, you may as well just have an opt in list.
Then you can have all the people you want to send you mail, mail you to be put on your opt in list.
He did address it, if you'd care to read. He just didn't itemize the arguments, since they don't need to be. The arguments and justifications for are simple, and are addressed in batch right after the list you mentioned.
No, you don't have to accept mail from me, but when you ignore my entire network, you don't know who else you are ignoring. And, if you just subscribe to a list, you have no idea who you are blackholing, or why. And since you are posting on slashdot, I know you don't have the free time to acutally investigate these lists.
If you take a $10 bill that a cashier has mistaken for a smaller bill, and you realize it, then you have stolen.
Technically, you have stolen money if you find it lieing on the street, and claim it as yours, even though you know it not to be. You are required to report it, and wait a certain amount of time for it to be claimed by its rightful owner before claiming possesion.
Stealing Cable is also stealing.
Taking something that doesn't EXPLICITLY belong to you, whether it be physical goods or some other sort of proerty... say intellectual property.
Copyright Violation is a specific form of stealing.
I was being snide toward all the stupid music pirates that believe since the music still exists that it isn't stealing.
Copyright violations isn't stealing like Manslaughter isn't murder. It is a specific form of the crime, not a different crime, but all the pirates think that if they somehow call it something else it isn't as bad.
This is a duplicate reply to the one directly above it.
Granted, it probably wasn't there when you strarted typing, but even if you hadn't read the replies, you should have expected at least 4 out of the to 5 to be replies pointing out a duplicate post, so there is no excuse.
I was responding to the poster, not the original article. The post I was responding to already made the assumption that they were trying to influence others.
The fact that this isn't the case doesn't nullify my point. In fact, the fact that it isn't the case is irrelevant to the ensuing discussion.
If they can not live in a manner totally consistent with their beliefs, then how can they even ask me to?
If you have a belief that you want someone to follow, then you can't waiver in how you follow your own belief. That is the basic definition of hypocrite.
Being inconsistent because it is too difficult to be consistant isn't an excuse. If you are trying to figure out a way to solve the problem that the logging solves, without logging (that area) then you aren't being inconsistent, and using your energy wisely.
If you are merely pointing out problems, and criticising me, then you are wasting your energy, and not affecting any good. If you are doing this, and contributing more to the ultimate problem, then you are a hypocrite.
Complaining of a problem IS NOT working on a solution. If these people have a VIABLE solution to solve the problem that the logging solves, then that would be productive.
I say, let the corporate sponsors own all the half-assed, under-researched, falsified, or otherwise suspect IP.
Let the scientists use this money to fund real reasearch in which they freely share ideas.
Everybody wins. The corporations have never cared if something really works, only if they can market it. They have their IP, and we have the real research.
Since Apple advertises their iMac as pretty much nothing more than an internet appliance that also interfaces with your camera, it is pretty obvious to me where the confusion (for arguments sake) comes in.
They are both telecommunications companies. One sells telecom services, one sells telecom devices.
Not as obvious as if it was, say, Cisco. Apple is still in the business of telecommunications.
Don't blame my application because you download the latest screen saver that is infected.
Insecure software doesn't even start to facilitate the spread of viruses, historically or today. And questionable functionality, where the insecurity was planned, facilitates the spread of most worms or internet viruses. Stupid users running infected code is where the problem lies, the OS did what it was supposed to.
Maybe the next thing you will suggest is stopping fire bugs by making non-flamable fuel.
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Pretty much what you have to do is claim that the reporter didn't print the truth, and that there was malicious intent.
I don't believe deciet is a prerequisite for libel.
So if you take his argument that Markoff was out to get him, and that what he wrote were lies, then you are well on your way to a libel suit.
I am sure that his lawyers have weighed all the pros and cons, the law, the burden of proof, the existance of proof, and the winnability of a jury trial with his reputation.
I personally think the libel law should be changed or amended to require malicious intent OR damage from any untruth or incomplete telling of the truth. There is no reason that reporters or editors can't report facts as completely as are available, without biasing the piece of work with lies, unchecked facts, and editorializing.
We have a freedom of the press. I wish more people respected it, and used it for what it was meant to be used for (instead of using it to sell ad space), and less people flaunted it as a shield for their greed and avarice.
You must have been a stock holder.
I can't imagine why else you'd have cared. Apple would have stiffled it, like Palm has. They wouldn't have stolen much from it, and wouldn't have developed it, probably.
Can anyone briefly tell me what is great about BeOS?
I so want to like this OS, but when I installed it, it didn't strike me as more usable, faster, or anything.
A brief list of what its users really like about it as opposed to the billions of desktops (Windows, all the linux ones, OSX) might be beneficial to more than just me. I guess what I am asking is, where should I be looking for the greatness, or even novelty.
This is good example of what people call "common wisdom". Hard to argue with because everyone that has an opinion generally holds this to be true.
If you only live for yourself, and only make decisions on how those decisions will affect you, then you are an arrogant, selfish prick.
On the flip side, if you only make decisions based on how it will affect others around you, with no care for your own happiness, then you are a depressed, unhappy sot.
Off the cuff, flippant advice is just that. There is rarely a decision that only takes your personal view into account that ends up being a good one.
I thought it had to do with the bad code he was submitting while high on mushrooms.
Just wild speculation.
If there was a race, then Windows won. Why is it all about winning and losing. It is about choice. Freedom to choose, or doesn't anyone get it. It isn't a troll, it is a wakeup call. How can you call coming in a distant, questionable second, winning. The XP desktop is really sweet, if you like that sort of thing, and is more widely used. What race was won? The race for second? Discuss. I challenge a flippant post, and I get modded as a troll.
And Windows won. Get over it.
It is about choice. It has always been about choice, and will always be about choice.
KDE hasn't won anything. That is like the little kid that takes of running. He gets to the end of the block and starts shouting "I WON, I WON" and no one else knew he was racing them.
I use linux, bsd, gnome, and kde. Depends on what I feel like. Choice.
If I wanted to follow suit with a winning technology that has the most support globally, I would stick with windows.
"Oh, if only to touch the hot dog that touched the lips of a girl... a real live girl... mmmmm"
This post shows a complete lack of understanding of the problem, the internet, or IP.
/. regulars are out of jobs deserve to be out of jobs for a reason, or haven't even got to high school yet.
Not to mention that his solution goes from solving a problem of 11 digit dialing by implimenting 12 digit dialing (and that is assuming IPv4). IPv6 will be even worse.
Now, combine his idea with IPv6 and some sort of AlphaNumeric dns type system, and then you have a headache, but somthing more along the lines of a working idea.
The fact that this got modded to a 4 shows that all the
You had, in your writings for linux.com, ventured out on a road of discovery to find the linux email client that best suited your needs. This was in pre-1.0 versions of Evolution.
I was wondering if you ever found one you liked, that scartched all your itches, or are you still looking?
but its pedantic...
Hope they didn't cause any money damages.
The statute of limitations on civil suits isn't as black and white as the statute of limitations on criminal charges.
And if they are still trying to cover up who did what, a overly aggresive, and loophole savvy DA could try to go for conspiracy charges, since that crime is on going.
Smile for the camera boys.
A /. Editor that doesn't toe the line regarding FSF and GNU being all powerful and all knowing, and the only orginization to even think about.
How could you slight them. The membership should be a forgone conclusion, you should be trying to pay twice the dues, and signing up your friends.
You should pass on the membership cards since they should be spending all that valuable time championing the GPL. We need the freedom to live under the rule of what RMS thinks is reasonable. Since he is the only reasonable person, it is pure unadulterated freedom to live like he wants me too.
Since you don't really know who might be sending you mail from that area, you may as well just have an opt in list.
Then you can have all the people you want to send you mail, mail you to be put on your opt in list.
He did address it, if you'd care to read. He just didn't itemize the arguments, since they don't need to be. The arguments and justifications for are simple, and are addressed in batch right after the list you mentioned.
No, you don't have to accept mail from me, but when you ignore my entire network, you don't know who else you are ignoring. And, if you just subscribe to a list, you have no idea who you are blackholing, or why. And since you are posting on slashdot, I know you don't have the free time to acutally investigate these lists.
If you take a $10 bill that a cashier has mistaken for a smaller bill, and you realize it, then you have stolen.
Technically, you have stolen money if you find it lieing on the street, and claim it as yours, even though you know it not to be. You are required to report it, and wait a certain amount of time for it to be claimed by its rightful owner before claiming possesion.
Stealing Cable is also stealing.
Taking something that doesn't EXPLICITLY belong to you, whether it be physical goods or some other sort of proerty... say intellectual property.
Copyright Violation is a specific form of stealing.
Note the yadda yadda yadda.
I was being snide toward all the stupid music pirates that believe since the music still exists that it isn't stealing.
Copyright violations isn't stealing like Manslaughter isn't murder. It is a specific form of the crime, not a different crime, but all the pirates think that if they somehow call it something else it isn't as bad.
They still have the IP, nobody took it from them, yadda yadda yadda.
This is a duplicate reply to the one directly above it.
Granted, it probably wasn't there when you strarted typing, but even if you hadn't read the replies, you should have expected at least 4 out of the to 5 to be replies pointing out a duplicate post, so there is no excuse.
I was responding to the poster, not the original article. The post I was responding to already made the assumption that they were trying to influence others.
The fact that this isn't the case doesn't nullify my point. In fact, the fact that it isn't the case is irrelevant to the ensuing discussion.
If they can not live in a manner totally consistent with their beliefs, then how can they even ask me to?
If you have a belief that you want someone to follow, then you can't waiver in how you follow your own belief. That is the basic definition of hypocrite.
Being inconsistent because it is too difficult to be consistant isn't an excuse. If you are trying to figure out a way to solve the problem that the logging solves, without logging (that area) then you aren't being inconsistent, and using your energy wisely.
If you are merely pointing out problems, and criticising me, then you are wasting your energy, and not affecting any good. If you are doing this, and contributing more to the ultimate problem, then you are a hypocrite.
Complaining of a problem IS NOT working on a solution. If these people have a VIABLE solution to solve the problem that the logging solves, then that would be productive.
I say, let the corporate sponsors own all the half-assed, under-researched, falsified, or otherwise suspect IP.
Let the scientists use this money to fund real reasearch in which they freely share ideas.
Everybody wins. The corporations have never cared if something really works, only if they can market it. They have their IP, and we have the real research.
Since Apple advertises their iMac as pretty much nothing more than an internet appliance that also interfaces with your camera, it is pretty obvious to me where the confusion (for arguments sake) comes in.
They are both telecommunications companies. One sells telecom services, one sells telecom devices.
Not as obvious as if it was, say, Cisco. Apple is still in the business of telecommunications.
Because I know what an elipse is for.
And I know that pen based computing has been around for a long long time.
Put the two together and you realize... The only thing interesting Microsoft has done is trademark the name.
Other people have been marketing tablet PC's before Microsoft. They just didn't think to trademark something so obvious.
Don't blame my application because you download the latest screen saver that is infected.
Insecure software doesn't even start to facilitate the spread of viruses, historically or today. And questionable functionality, where the insecurity was planned, facilitates the spread of most worms or internet viruses. Stupid users running infected code is where the problem lies, the OS did what it was supposed to.
Maybe the next thing you will suggest is stopping fire bugs by making non-flamable fuel.