I'm fairly sure there's a clause within the HHGTTG that states that if the actual historical context is ever discovered, its instantly destroyed and remade in an even more bizzare comentary about modern political life.
Some have argued this has already happend.
Umm...well I cant say much for the tagging (nor do I really understand the point) but couldn't you just...print the photo's off at say, Walgreens, and mail them to friends and loved ones?
Even my senile techno-illiterate grandmother still knows how to pick up a photograph printed at walgreens, even if she doesn't actually reconize anyone in it. I mean, they're baby pictures, everyone would want their own copy.
If not, chances are they're not looking at the photo's on facebook anyway.
Because of these absurd, stupid laws, its illegal to sing "Happy Birthday" at a resturant where the employees join in. Music made by John Lennon is still under copywright. The lifting of a CD from a store and 'stealing' the MP3's off a website carry with them punishments that range from "Slap on the wrist" to "Indentured Servitude" for effectivly the same offence. Because of the money they're making, or already made, they're buying laws and turning people into criminals for doing what comes naturally, like having a friend listen to something you like. They're trying to destroy things that make it easy and affordable to engage in my own culture. I consider these laws immoral, and as a result, I dont respect them.
Much like if it was against the law to give coins to the starving homelss beggers, or to provide photo ID every time I want to cross the street, or whatever absurd concepts you can come up with, i'd do the same. I pay for music, I subscribe to Pandora, and I own an iTunes account with plenty of purchased music. I also pirate things, music I cant seem to find to purchase for a price that isn't absurdly overvalued because its no longer activly printed on physical media or offered as a download somewhere I can be sure I can get another copy of at some point in the future. I dont justify it, because I dont respect the law as its written, as do most people who act like I do. I agree that people who produce music should be paid for it, the disagreement seems to be in how much they should be paid.
People will follow the path of least resistance, and right now that tends to be pirating music they cannot easily find. Some people will always do it, some will never do it. Most, do it as a show of force of will against something they dont understand. Much like I dont buy seasons of TV shows for a few hundred dollars that have been out of production for 30 years, I dont spend money on music that can be had easily via other means, legit or not. I dont need justification, and I dont need you to agree with me. Through such action does change happen, be it for the better or worse.
I like to believe it will lead to positive change, given enough time.
I see this complaint a lot, both here and other places, about 'hypocricy' of the users of a site.
I always wonder what is moving through that brain of yours. Yes, some users would jump at the chance to bash the RIAA in your example above, while other users would jump to the defense of TheOatmeal in this example.
That's not hypocricy, thats two different sets of users voicing opinions on an open forum. Because of the type of people a site like this brings in, you'll have a lot of people who hate the RIAA. And you'll have a lot of people who support someone like TheOatmeal in this situation. It doesn't mean its the same people however.
Its all togeather possible you have two subcultures that dont cross often, though im sure they exist. Hypocricy is owned on a personal level, you cant blame the entire site for it unless you're a fool.
Thats all I wanted to say, back to tilting at windmills as you please.
I find this idea rather interesting, but I worry what might happen to someone who was placed in this pool by mistake?
I can imagine that the aim-bot writers would find this rather interesting, you'd have a natural-selection pressure going on where the best and fastest aim-bots would survive. I have to wonder what might come of something like that.
Doesn't matter if they have nothing to do with one another.
People got burned once, they dont feel like getting burned again. Could be the best tasting soup on the face of the earth, but if the last time you came in and found a finger in it, you're not coming back.
This struck me as rather absurd as well. Why, excatly, can they double a fee because people might dance along to the music? I can understand they wanting to be reimbursed for the playing of it, but why on earth do they get to decide what you can do with music already paid for to play?
Be like charging you 3 dollars for a big scoop of Ice Cream, then carging to twice that because you wanted to eat it..
I dont think you're understanding whats happening here at all.
Google is not removing results from their search. A user comes along and searches for "Human Rights Abuses in Tibet" for example. If I run the search I get about 4.5 million hits (my lord, 4.5 million hits on that? Anyway...) because i'm in the US.
If I were in china, i'd get a 404 page not found error, or some other weird obsure error page.
Whats happening is someone between me and Google is intercepting the search query, deciding on some filter if what im searching for is appropriate based on some unknown list of "not to be known" subjects, and if my searches dont pass the test I dont get the results back. Peoplere were complaining to Google because it seemed like it was Google's fault.
So Google is now going to turn around and say "Hey, you, user. Yeah you! Just wanna let you know, searching for that has resulted in people not getting results."
So, yeah, way to jump on the "OMG GOOGLE IS EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL AND IM SMART FOR POINTING IT OUT HAHAHAHAHAHA" bandwagon. Your bias is showing.
I'd kindly request people not confuse the Talaban with any religion trying to issue a message of Peace.
They're much like the Catholic preists who molested children and then got wisked away by higher ups trying to cover their own butts. They abuse the message for their own gain not in the name of the god they claim to follow, but for their own self-worth and warped ideals. The Koran, much like the Bible, are full of really good messages. They're also full of a lot of garbage.
If the guy is a crook, book him for being a crook!
I'm not a fan of the guy, but im also no fan of the idiots who protest funerals either. Doesn't mean anyone has the right to go and shoot the bunch of idiots, or steal their cars. The heck is wrong with you?
We're supposed to have higher standards here, we're supposed to do things in a fair and even handed way, to the best of our ability. This isn't. Just because the guy's got a record does not give the people who did this a free pass to ignore everything the country is supposed to stand for. Everyone here who's rooting for the goverment is a stupid idiot, idiot.
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No not really. We'll still need insurance for accidental damage and theft, as others have pointed out.
Now, if I made my living delivering pizzas for a living, i'd be a little more concerned. Imagine if you will, ordering a pizza from a local joint, and sending your car to pick it up. Cook walks out to the parked car in the spot designated for auto-deliverly pickup, waves the recipt over the optical scanner, some compartment/door opens on the car, puts in the pizza and walks off while the car drives it home.
Such things would show up in the more expensive cars at first of course, but I could see entire industries developing around this. Heck, we dont buy groceries online because the hard part is getting them home in the first place. This sorta takes care of that problem. Wouldn't even need to be your car, you could build an entire company around a driverless food delivery service for a major city. Want McDonalds? Sure! The Nickle Company? No problem! Who needs to deliver, when the car does it for you?
I dont see anything that claims thats not possible, so I dont quite get where you get this from. It would be a strange place indeed, a planet warmed by tidal friction from within would have a very different biology of life. I'd imagine most life would be deep underwater near rifts in the oceans floor, there'd be no point in forming near the surface, depending on what caused the tidal forces.
Would make for an interesting long-term strategy for an advanced race to survive past the life of stars, if you can heat from within via tidal forces around say, a super massive black hole. Just dont be the jerk to mess that one up.
"Sir! We forgot to exchange values between Metric and Imperial, the entire planet is about to get sucked into a black hole!"
"Well...alteast we dont need to worry about budget cuts next year."
All it really proves is that humans cannot comprehend distance as vast as this.
My understanding, and im sure its flawed, is that something like a Photon doesn't experience time. To it, it pops into and out of existance, one end at the surface of a star in a galaxy cluster 12.7 billion light years away, the other end at the Subaru telescope in this case. Just as suddenly as this happends, its gone again.
This is because its traveling at the speed of light. Time and space are linked. Beyond this my understanding breaks down, but I suspect it has something to do with moving through space at that speed, and our misunderstanding of what time really is. We experience time where there is a 'universal' time in our refrence, because really anything we need to reference is already here, moving with us at the same speed around the sun. There is no 12.7 billion years ago to this galaxy, per our reference, because nothing that is happening 'now' as you and I understand it can possibly affect us here, without violating the speed of light. We're not looking at a galaxy we're literally looking back in time at a galaxy. If this galaxy exploded ripping a hole in the fabric of space-time and ended the entire universe right now, we'd not be aware of it for another 12.7 billion years. Per our reference, nothing has happened, or will happen, for that span of time. So in effect, for us, what we're seeing is what IS happening.
Now please correct my misunderstanding, those of you lurking out there who do know better, because i'd love to understand all this!
The problem with your point of view, and its sorta hard to be wrong on something like that given its basically an opinion, is that if you're right, no big deal. Nothing changes, and we continue on.
But if you're wrong, you destroy the ability for humans to continue to exist on this planet, at best you kill millions of people once the change takes strong hold and starts raising oceans and creating sand dunes out of large swatches of farm land.
In one way its not a big deal, in the other its a dramatic important choice. A choice most people are not capable of making on market pressure moment to moment before its way too late.
Much of what allowed a crazy group like this to take power in germany was, in large part, how germany was treated after WWI. They lost the war. They pay the price. They suffer for what they did.
I'm not saying we should act like what happened was a good thing, or reasonable, or rational. It wasn't, it cant be. What im saying is, open discussion is nessisary. The only reason inteleligent design in schools causes issues is because it keeps the actual facts from being known. Likewise, supressing stuff like this book, or discussion on why the Nazi's did what they did, or why they felt it was justified, keeps discussion from explaining WHY what they did was NOT justified.
If you dont learn from the past, you're doomed to repeate the past. Thats wisdom almost beyond words.
I still dont see why this is a problem. If there was some kind of evidence that this would stop further murders because of some weird hostage-emergency measure, there's already laws covering that kind of thing.
Under any other situation, a warrent should be required. Warrents are not meant to be an annoyance that can be brushed aside, they're meant to protect people by making the act of obtaining the information clear with respect to the intent of the police. They cant just listen in on all phone calls and wait for someone to offer someone else drugs for money. There's very very good reasons for this, all of them pretty clearly outlined in that document they put up in Washington that everyone keeps talking about.
The only reason they disclosed that data 8 million times is because they're doing it way too much. The police have learned the easiest way and are following it. You cant just declare "No fair! Now i'll have to follow the law!" as a defense for something like that.
Agree to this liscence agreement they want, and request the copywrited material so that they can review videos.
Then pay these people for every view for every video that matches the audio 100%. If its even 0.001% off, dont count the hit. Alternatly let the GEMA try to figure out what videos infringe and get clearance with Google to agree before paying up.
In other words make it a huge pain in the neck for GEMA. Make it cost more for them to figure out what videos are actually infringing than any value they may actually get out of them. See who runs out of money first, GEMA or Google.
Please stop breaking the handles on my bags and it wont be a problem.
Every bag i've ever sent through the airports has come back beatup, broken, and usually a few items snapped off it or taken out of it. I dont even overfill the bag, im pretty careful about that because frankly I dont want to lug the thing around the airport to find a cab.
5 bags, 5 trips, 3 years, every last one of them have broken handles, broken wheels, busted zipers, cracked cases, etc. None of them started out that way, and none of them were returned to me in the same condition I gave them to the airline. There's a reason I dont fly anymore, even if its more expensive to take a train.
Of course it will never be 100%. NOTHING is ever 100%, medically or otherwise, short of math (and even then..)
By your argument, nobody should wear seatbelts and helmets because they dont stop all deaths and injuries. Thats absurd and misleading.
If these idiots had gotten their children vaccinated when eligable, the people who dont have a choice on not getting vaccinated have a GREATLY INCREAED CHANCE OF NOT GETTING SICK if everyone else does what they're supposed to. Sorry, this isn't Disneyland, people get sick sometimes no matter what you do. Doesn't mean we should all roll around in the mud and jab one another with dirty needles either.
Maybe you have bad karma because you're clearly a tool.
Well they may have some right to complain if they're terribly close, but how much noise are we really talking about here?
If these were built literally in your back yard, that might be a problem. I always felt building these things in the middle of large Highway intersections would make the most sense. They're way better looking then the highways themselves, and the sound doesn't matter much if you already have engine breaking semi-trailers and idiots beeping at one another.
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I'm fairly sure there's a clause within the HHGTTG that states that if the actual historical context is ever discovered, its instantly destroyed and remade in an even more bizzare comentary about modern political life. Some have argued this has already happend.
Umm...well I cant say much for the tagging (nor do I really understand the point) but couldn't you just...print the photo's off at say, Walgreens, and mail them to friends and loved ones?
Even my senile techno-illiterate grandmother still knows how to pick up a photograph printed at walgreens, even if she doesn't actually reconize anyone in it. I mean, they're baby pictures, everyone would want their own copy.
If not, chances are they're not looking at the photo's on facebook anyway.
Speaking for myself of course, I dont.
Because of these absurd, stupid laws, its illegal to sing "Happy Birthday" at a resturant where the employees join in. Music made by John Lennon is still under copywright. The lifting of a CD from a store and 'stealing' the MP3's off a website carry with them punishments that range from "Slap on the wrist" to "Indentured Servitude" for effectivly the same offence. Because of the money they're making, or already made, they're buying laws and turning people into criminals for doing what comes naturally, like having a friend listen to something you like. They're trying to destroy things that make it easy and affordable to engage in my own culture. I consider these laws immoral, and as a result, I dont respect them.
Much like if it was against the law to give coins to the starving homelss beggers, or to provide photo ID every time I want to cross the street, or whatever absurd concepts you can come up with, i'd do the same. I pay for music, I subscribe to Pandora, and I own an iTunes account with plenty of purchased music. I also pirate things, music I cant seem to find to purchase for a price that isn't absurdly overvalued because its no longer activly printed on physical media or offered as a download somewhere I can be sure I can get another copy of at some point in the future. I dont justify it, because I dont respect the law as its written, as do most people who act like I do. I agree that people who produce music should be paid for it, the disagreement seems to be in how much they should be paid.
People will follow the path of least resistance, and right now that tends to be pirating music they cannot easily find. Some people will always do it, some will never do it. Most, do it as a show of force of will against something they dont understand. Much like I dont buy seasons of TV shows for a few hundred dollars that have been out of production for 30 years, I dont spend money on music that can be had easily via other means, legit or not. I dont need justification, and I dont need you to agree with me. Through such action does change happen, be it for the better or worse.
I like to believe it will lead to positive change, given enough time.
I see this complaint a lot, both here and other places, about 'hypocricy' of the users of a site.
I always wonder what is moving through that brain of yours. Yes, some users would jump at the chance to bash the RIAA in your example above, while other users would jump to the defense of TheOatmeal in this example.
That's not hypocricy, thats two different sets of users voicing opinions on an open forum. Because of the type of people a site like this brings in, you'll have a lot of people who hate the RIAA. And you'll have a lot of people who support someone like TheOatmeal in this situation. It doesn't mean its the same people however.
Its all togeather possible you have two subcultures that dont cross often, though im sure they exist. Hypocricy is owned on a personal level, you cant blame the entire site for it unless you're a fool.
Thats all I wanted to say, back to tilting at windmills as you please.
I find this idea rather interesting, but I worry what might happen to someone who was placed in this pool by mistake?
I can imagine that the aim-bot writers would find this rather interesting, you'd have a natural-selection pressure going on where the best and fastest aim-bots would survive. I have to wonder what might come of something like that.
Wouldn't make the actual game very fun though.
Doesn't matter if they have nothing to do with one another.
People got burned once, they dont feel like getting burned again. Could be the best tasting soup on the face of the earth, but if the last time you came in and found a finger in it, you're not coming back.
This struck me as rather absurd as well. Why, excatly, can they double a fee because people might dance along to the music? I can understand they wanting to be reimbursed for the playing of it, but why on earth do they get to decide what you can do with music already paid for to play?
Be like charging you 3 dollars for a big scoop of Ice Cream, then carging to twice that because you wanted to eat it..
I dont think you're understanding whats happening here at all.
Google is not removing results from their search. A user comes along and searches for "Human Rights Abuses in Tibet" for example. If I run the search I get about 4.5 million hits (my lord, 4.5 million hits on that? Anyway...) because i'm in the US.
If I were in china, i'd get a 404 page not found error, or some other weird obsure error page.
Whats happening is someone between me and Google is intercepting the search query, deciding on some filter if what im searching for is appropriate based on some unknown list of "not to be known" subjects, and if my searches dont pass the test I dont get the results back. Peoplere were complaining to Google because it seemed like it was Google's fault.
So Google is now going to turn around and say "Hey, you, user. Yeah you! Just wanna let you know, searching for that has resulted in people not getting results."
So, yeah, way to jump on the "OMG GOOGLE IS EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL AND IM SMART FOR POINTING IT OUT HAHAHAHAHAHA" bandwagon. Your bias is showing.
Hate to reply to myself, but clearly I meant Taliban, not Talaban.
I'm sure the grammar Natzi's will follow shortly with other issues in my post I'm not seeing offhand, this post included.
I'd kindly request people not confuse the Talaban with any religion trying to issue a message of Peace.
They're much like the Catholic preists who molested children and then got wisked away by higher ups trying to cover their own butts. They abuse the message for their own gain not in the name of the god they claim to follow, but for their own self-worth and warped ideals. The Koran, much like the Bible, are full of really good messages. They're also full of a lot of garbage.
A distinctly human trait.
If the guy is a crook, book him for being a crook!
I'm not a fan of the guy, but im also no fan of the idiots who protest funerals either. Doesn't mean anyone has the right to go and shoot the bunch of idiots, or steal their cars. The heck is wrong with you?
We're supposed to have higher standards here, we're supposed to do things in a fair and even handed way, to the best of our ability. This isn't. Just because the guy's got a record does not give the people who did this a free pass to ignore everything the country is supposed to stand for. Everyone here who's rooting for the goverment is a stupid idiot, idiot.
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No not really. We'll still need insurance for accidental damage and theft, as others have pointed out.
Now, if I made my living delivering pizzas for a living, i'd be a little more concerned. Imagine if you will, ordering a pizza from a local joint, and sending your car to pick it up. Cook walks out to the parked car in the spot designated for auto-deliverly pickup, waves the recipt over the optical scanner, some compartment/door opens on the car, puts in the pizza and walks off while the car drives it home.
Such things would show up in the more expensive cars at first of course, but I could see entire industries developing around this. Heck, we dont buy groceries online because the hard part is getting them home in the first place. This sorta takes care of that problem. Wouldn't even need to be your car, you could build an entire company around a driverless food delivery service for a major city. Want McDonalds? Sure! The Nickle Company? No problem! Who needs to deliver, when the car does it for you?
I dont see anything that claims thats not possible, so I dont quite get where you get this from. It would be a strange place indeed, a planet warmed by tidal friction from within would have a very different biology of life. I'd imagine most life would be deep underwater near rifts in the oceans floor, there'd be no point in forming near the surface, depending on what caused the tidal forces.
Would make for an interesting long-term strategy for an advanced race to survive past the life of stars, if you can heat from within via tidal forces around say, a super massive black hole. Just dont be the jerk to mess that one up.
"Sir! We forgot to exchange values between Metric and Imperial, the entire planet is about to get sucked into a black hole!"
"Well...alteast we dont need to worry about budget cuts next year."
All it really proves is that humans cannot comprehend distance as vast as this.
My understanding, and im sure its flawed, is that something like a Photon doesn't experience time. To it, it pops into and out of existance, one end at the surface of a star in a galaxy cluster 12.7 billion light years away, the other end at the Subaru telescope in this case. Just as suddenly as this happends, its gone again.
This is because its traveling at the speed of light. Time and space are linked. Beyond this my understanding breaks down, but I suspect it has something to do with moving through space at that speed, and our misunderstanding of what time really is. We experience time where there is a 'universal' time in our refrence, because really anything we need to reference is already here, moving with us at the same speed around the sun. There is no 12.7 billion years ago to this galaxy, per our reference, because nothing that is happening 'now' as you and I understand it can possibly affect us here, without violating the speed of light. We're not looking at a galaxy we're literally looking back in time at a galaxy. If this galaxy exploded ripping a hole in the fabric of space-time and ended the entire universe right now, we'd not be aware of it for another 12.7 billion years. Per our reference, nothing has happened, or will happen, for that span of time. So in effect, for us, what we're seeing is what IS happening.
Now please correct my misunderstanding, those of you lurking out there who do know better, because i'd love to understand all this!
If I ever get that Time Machine i've been working on to work properly, I know what era im not bothering to visit now.
The problem with your point of view, and its sorta hard to be wrong on something like that given its basically an opinion, is that if you're right, no big deal. Nothing changes, and we continue on.
But if you're wrong, you destroy the ability for humans to continue to exist on this planet, at best you kill millions of people once the change takes strong hold and starts raising oceans and creating sand dunes out of large swatches of farm land.
In one way its not a big deal, in the other its a dramatic important choice. A choice most people are not capable of making on market pressure moment to moment before its way too late.
Its thought processes like this that lead to Word War 2 to begin with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_of_world_war_ii
Much of what allowed a crazy group like this to take power in germany was, in large part, how germany was treated after WWI. They lost the war. They pay the price. They suffer for what they did.
I'm not saying we should act like what happened was a good thing, or reasonable, or rational. It wasn't, it cant be. What im saying is, open discussion is nessisary. The only reason inteleligent design in schools causes issues is because it keeps the actual facts from being known. Likewise, supressing stuff like this book, or discussion on why the Nazi's did what they did, or why they felt it was justified, keeps discussion from explaining WHY what they did was NOT justified.
If you dont learn from the past, you're doomed to repeate the past. Thats wisdom almost beyond words.
Unless you're a very old billionare, or atleast getting old, and want to be sure you're forever remembered by the human race.
How much do you suppose that is worth to some people?
I still dont see why this is a problem. If there was some kind of evidence that this would stop further murders because of some weird hostage-emergency measure, there's already laws covering that kind of thing.
Under any other situation, a warrent should be required. Warrents are not meant to be an annoyance that can be brushed aside, they're meant to protect people by making the act of obtaining the information clear with respect to the intent of the police. They cant just listen in on all phone calls and wait for someone to offer someone else drugs for money. There's very very good reasons for this, all of them pretty clearly outlined in that document they put up in Washington that everyone keeps talking about.
The only reason they disclosed that data 8 million times is because they're doing it way too much. The police have learned the easiest way and are following it. You cant just declare "No fair! Now i'll have to follow the law!" as a defense for something like that.
Agree to this liscence agreement they want, and request the copywrited material so that they can review videos.
Then pay these people for every view for every video that matches the audio 100%. If its even 0.001% off, dont count the hit. Alternatly let the GEMA try to figure out what videos infringe and get clearance with Google to agree before paying up.
In other words make it a huge pain in the neck for GEMA. Make it cost more for them to figure out what videos are actually infringing than any value they may actually get out of them. See who runs out of money first, GEMA or Google.
Please stop breaking the handles on my bags and it wont be a problem.
Every bag i've ever sent through the airports has come back beatup, broken, and usually a few items snapped off it or taken out of it. I dont even overfill the bag, im pretty careful about that because frankly I dont want to lug the thing around the airport to find a cab.
5 bags, 5 trips, 3 years, every last one of them have broken handles, broken wheels, busted zipers, cracked cases, etc. None of them started out that way, and none of them were returned to me in the same condition I gave them to the airline. There's a reason I dont fly anymore, even if its more expensive to take a train.
I say we pool money togeather for Slashdot to buy its own vanity TLD.
www.slashdot.dotslashdotwwwslashslashdotdotcom should do nicely.
Of course it will never be 100%. NOTHING is ever 100%, medically or otherwise, short of math (and even then..)
By your argument, nobody should wear seatbelts and helmets because they dont stop all deaths and injuries. Thats absurd and misleading.
If these idiots had gotten their children vaccinated when eligable, the people who dont have a choice on not getting vaccinated have a GREATLY INCREAED CHANCE OF NOT GETTING SICK if everyone else does what they're supposed to. Sorry, this isn't Disneyland, people get sick sometimes no matter what you do. Doesn't mean we should all roll around in the mud and jab one another with dirty needles either.
Maybe you have bad karma because you're clearly a tool.
Well they may have some right to complain if they're terribly close, but how much noise are we really talking about here?
If these were built literally in your back yard, that might be a problem. I always felt building these things in the middle of large Highway intersections would make the most sense. They're way better looking then the highways themselves, and the sound doesn't matter much if you already have engine breaking semi-trailers and idiots beeping at one another.